>be me >Slave.png>Pick cotton from 6am to 6pm>Do whatever I want outside of that>Massa buys my food, clothes, medicine, and gives me a place to live>Massa lets my woman work in the house so she don't have to work in the fieldsAnd slavery was bad why exactly?Compared to now the groids had it better back then ffs
It brought a bunch of niggers to the new continent.
>>537207457Kek only valid point
>>537206143>Massa broke me in last night
>>537207457Not only that but south cucks fought a war to keep letting bbcs fuck their wives and daughters. Its a good thing southern boys cant fight or there would be even more here today
>>537206143>>Do whatever I want outside of thatNow try to leave
>>537207837No retard in reality the north randomly made slavery illegal knowing it would cripple the south financially who were getting cushy with Europe. This is all the civil war was about. If they gave them a couple years to ween off it would have been fine but it was an abrupt declaration.>fuck you redneckNope I have been a dirty Yankee New Yorker all my life.
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>>537207837Yanks fought to free them and give them voting rights AND legalize interracial marriages yet you blame the South. Cope harder, the South would've at least sent them back to Africa once they were done with them
>>537208013>no you don’t understand we needed bbcs to fuck our wives and daughters!!1!cuck, lincoln was going to send them all back to africa but you cucks killed him
>>537206143>be me>wagie.png>Deal with consumers from 6am to 6pm>Do whatever I want outside of that>Massa pays me to buy my food, clothes, medicine, and gives me a place to live>Massa lets my woman work in the store so she don't have to work in the houseFixed it for you
>>537208403Lincoln was never going to do that and he was shot by a jew
>>537206143Slavery is considered bad because people of today believe it was a disgrace to own another human being like property and think it was a shame that their fairly civilized ancestors were ready to step over their moral principles in the name of greed. And claiming that they had it better in America in chains than in their own communities is either dishonest or just plain ignorant. Its a purely materialistic view that considers only material well-being, while completely disregarding people being uprooted from their culture, home, family and traditional way of life. Better living standards do not always make up for that, and its especially ironic hearing this from people that always complain about their own traditions and culture being forcefully abolished in the name of GDP growth. As always, people here fail how the very things they advocate for other are being done to them in real time.
>>537206143Come be my slave then boy, if you like it so much. Fetch the lard from the kitchen on your way to the bedroom.Seriously if you even countenance the idea that being a slave is an acceptable existence you are a worthless turbocuck who deserves to hang
>>537208620Correct, the best solution for everyone is that they be sent back to their homeland
>>537208620I bet if we brought it back and made it 100% voluntary millions would agree to be slaves. Is being a slave really worse than owning a 1BR apartment and you wage all day and sleep and are working just to maintain that?
>>537208478>he was shot by a jewYou mean one of the guys who's co-ethinics ran the slave trade and were responsible for there being a gorillion nigger here in the first place? Why would you defend the institution originally responsible for importing any statistically meaningful number of niggers to this country?
>>537206143>And slavery was bad why exactly?The bit that had to do with working. Much like Jews, they think working is genocide.
>>537208753Yes like I said jew. We tried sending them back with Liberia it didn't work out too well. In no world at that point would the US Government have put a gun to their heads and say get out we were already cucked back then and slaves did have rights and owned things
>>537208635Close, an acceptable existence for niggers who've been removed from their natural habitats. It's clear as day they can't participate in civilization on the level of whites or asians, at least back then they weren't forced to take part in systems they physically can't comprehend even today
>>537208730niggers need to get out
>>537206143We should bring slavery back but just for you OP, I would 100% vote for that
>>537208013Don’t forget, this was before income taxes, and the South funded almost 90% of the federal government through taxation of their exports. The civil war is another example of elitist faggots trying to squeeze more money out of their constituents, while paying nothing themselves.
>>537208635Still better than the best nigger deserves
>>537206143during that period, the black slaves were treated better than the indentured white servants/slaves, most of whom sold their service for passage or were rounded up by the English govt. due to being homeless or quite poor (an eyesore for the English aristocracy). The reasoning for this being that the white slaves were free.
>>537208732You are trying to argue that one shortcoming of society should be fixed by upgrading it to an even less fair type of hierarchy. Wouldn't it be better to address the problem instead of amplifying it to a maximum?
>>537209184No I am talking reality. Our governments will never address our issues so your entire outlook in life if you want to be honest and practical and you have no desire to risk your life to improve things is to choose lesser of two evils
I still haven't met anyone outside of a white history nerd that actually knows what picking cotton was.They had seeds to be separated before the cotton gin was invented.The effect of the cotton gin on picking cotton.That it was not back breaking labor but indoor long hour menial labor.Knowledge, facts, history, completely lost to time.
>>537209437oh and modern strains of seedless cotton which were created that made this all go awayyou will only see old wild cotton with seeds
>>537206143Slaves were not generally treated poorly. I mean they were dehumanized, they couldn't marry who they wanted, they couldn't move where they wanted. But it's also not correct to say they were totally abused. The books about slaves being whipped and raped were all Northern propaganda for the most part. They had less working hours generally than white laborers, they were provided for. Talented ones were often sent to the city to work skilled trades. Certainly their life was way better than if they remained in Africa. Later on the South started taking stronger measures against slaves meeting in large groups, or learning to read, because of the Haitian slave revolt which freaked them the fuck out. The north kept trying to create such a revolt in the south which they were terrified of. I forget the guy's name but there was an influential southern farmer guy who got into hot water when he said that during slavery you didn't have blacks standing around on porches with nothing to do, getting into trouble. They were given a direction in life, given a purpose. He was raked over the coals for those comments but he also wasn't completely wrong. Once slavery ended the black communities became very dysfunctional and turned to crime, and often became even poorer, more violent, and less hospitable than a slave community. I think America in general has a problem with these wealthy capitalists who rule the system getting addicted to cheap obedient labor. They will do anything for their cheap labor even enslave people.
>>537209437plenty of cotton fields around here. just for kicks, as a kid went out and picked some once. thorny little fuckers but having also done roofing work, the cotton picking is certainly preferable.
>>537209437Logically speaking even if slavery didn't end when it did capitalism would have eventually ended it
>>537209282Well, what is your solution to this? Volunteer into an even more radical submission to some individual who can do whatever with you? What are the perks of this system? Are we talking early Rome kind of slavery, later Rome or something entirely different? Because some of those imply the owner can do whatever they please with you and essentially owe you nothing.
>>537206143Bruh if you got caught checking your phone during that 12 hour shift you got the shit whipped out of you. Being a slave SUCKED DONKEY DICK!
>>537209591H1B is modern slavery with how these jeets are essentially slaves till they get the green card and like with slavery the future of our country is fucked even more with how many jeets we are taking in now that are here for good. When you crunch the numbers they really aren't saving much for doing this which is the insane part
>>537209670I don't have a solution. I am not deluded like you who thinks you are a internet freedom fighter who never leaves your soviet bloc apartment
>>537208620Nah it's just that America was founded to disestablish hierarchies. Like America famously has no titles of nobility. The idea of some people being higher rank than other people is intuitively unaccaptable to Americans. But the problem with that is, that hierarchies are natural. There is a natural order to the world, where people of greater competence assume greater responsibility and look after the other members of the tribe. If you don't have someone in that role, the community dissolves. America today is dysfunctional because after spending centuries disestablishing nobility roles, corporations slid into that position for themselves. So now we're ruled by money. The truth is, people are enslaved not by other humans, but by their own behavior. Someone who has not mastered themselves will always be a slave, and find themselves under the responsibility of someone greater.
>>537209602"cotton picking" was harvesting the cotton during harvest season, which lasted less than a month, and spending the rest of the year sitting indoors separating tiny black seeds from the cotton with your finger tipscotton used to be peppered with these tiny black seeds and they would use hundreds of slaves to sit all day and pluck them out like fleas from a monkeythen the cotton gin was invented and a single slave using the device could produce a much greater amount of cleaned cotton, this completely changed the slaving industry, cut down the labor needed into a fractionthe invention of the cotton ginthen seedless cotton was finally hybridized at some point and its what we use today
>>537209670Tf is he the president? It was a hypothetical presented as a joke
>>537206143>>Do whatever I want outside of thatThis is bullshit. Slaves did not get to do whatever they want.>confederate flagOf course you wouldn't know that.
>>537208403>lincoln was going to send them all back to africa Retarded cope, he had one meeting with a nigger who wanted that and never talked about it again.
>>537209631that's the thing, capitalism was ending itslavery was basically being phased out from the primary purpose it was installedinnovation and technology was driving labor and it has done, machinery replacing peopleagain the invention of the cotton gin, it was a huge thing and many remember learning about it in school since it was a turning pointthe cotton gin WAS capitalism
>>537206143>conveniently leaves out the buck breakingBehead all revisionists
>>537209990Of course an American flag would be incapable of understanding that "do whatever I want" as a slave has boundaries. It's hyperbole dumbass
Slaves had better working conditions and quality of life than factory workers in the north.
>>537210116I wonder if the north saw that and realized it was now or never to kill the south because when the south no longer relied on slaves they would have no way to destroy them
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>>537208013The South weren't getting Cushy with Europe. The North was. England had already outlawed slavery and owned India, the largest cotton producer in the world, why did they need the South? They didn't. They needed the South crushed politically because the south refused Federalization. England wanted reconciliation with the US and to re-acquire the US as part of the Empire. The best way to do that was to crush the south through a war.
>>537206143exactly, in america 'slavery' was just the name of a welfare program for congoids.
>>537210348The idea lives on. I don't see any wrong in acknowledging that America has strayed from what it was originally intended to be
>>537210129they're moralfagging reddit niggers
>>537209990Except a lot of the time they did.
>>537210378The south was very cushy with France to the point where they aided the South during the civil war
>>537209939I think you make a great point. I can only add that my main aim was arguing against the idea that taking slaves is always a good thing in case it uplifts the living standards of the slave, which is not the case.Other than that - I agree. A society cannot function under the guise that all people are equal, no matter the capabilities or contributions. Nobility is no panacea, but some sort of elite that would at least formally have a tie to the culture and traditions of the community is the best thing we have come up with as humankind. Allowing capital to rule people essentially means that all the lowbrow desires of people will be catered to in the name of increasing profit and thus the community will gradually devour itself as it dissolves into a sharper division of exploiters and exploited that no longer have any connection to each other. A hierarchy is thus unavoidable, but every facet of it should share an equal amount of responsibility for the task it performs and understand its specific role in it.
>>537210278Do you really think the war was about bleeding heart liberal bullshit?It was about money.You are right on the nose.Various corporations and groups were vying for power during a economic turbulent time when everything was changing and no one was sure who would come out on top.The wealth and power of the south scared the shit out of the north so they swooped in for the kill shot and it all went to hell when the south united and rose.
>>537210378France was heavily invested in Southern cotton for their textile industry and hoped the South would win so they could cut ties with the US
>>537207837They had a better kdr. What cost them was the logistics. Lincoln was a republican btw. U lost tranny.
>>537210688>Do you really think the war was about bleeding heart liberal bullshit?of course not. The north could have easily given the south time to ween off slaves. By demanding they stop using them immediately , they knew that would crush the economy. It makes no sense at all unless you are doing it for nefarious reasons
