it's official RUSSIA IS LOSING
They're definitely no winning anyway. The fuel crisis seems destined to only get worse, especially after the Moscow refinery got hit for the first time last night. They simply cannot stop it, so they have to end the war one way or another. But they don't have the means to do so by force and Putin is scared for his life, so the meatgrind will go on until there's some coup of massive implosion in Russia.
>>537212428Zelensky is the greatest leader on the planet.
they're literally throwing a bone at vatniks.
>>537212428Lol
>>537212714zigger, it's been over 4 years. 12, if you start counting from the beginning.
>>537212428>Zelenskike saysHow can hohols put up with that jewish midget usurper so long?
>>537213093*forgot picrel
>>537213093to be fair, that jester took down little putin's dreams of conquest.
>>537213093they’re spiritually russians. russians do it for like 30 years so ask them
>>537212428>it's official RUSSIA IS LOSINGits crazy how delusional jews are
>>537212428When will the russia stop losing?
Mr. Bone's wild ride doesn't stop.
>>537212428bold strategy, just declare that your opponent has lost and publish baseless bullshit as news that suggests a G7 leader meeting will occur determining the reparations your opponent owes you whilst tacitly jeering at them by further bullshitting that the Iran agreement will lower the oil prices meaning your opponent suffers. what a contemptable cunt, can't believe my country has to pay jewlensky £100bn a year until the war is over.
>>537212428Why would someone make a deal with the losing side and not demand surrender?
>>537213888nice triple, made me switch sides
>>537212428Russian shills mad, very mad
Russia could keep this up for 100 years if that's what it takes to achieve national security. I'm not so sure Europe will last even another 50 years with mass immigration.
>>537212714these ziggas been posting this exact image since the start of the fuckin war its all so tiresome
>>537212660Fuck your antisemitic zelensky faggotBibi fucking chad netanyahu is the greatest president of all time.
>>537212533>until there's some coup of massive implosion in Russia.Literally HOW do you expect that to happen? WHO is gonna coup him? WHAT sort of “massive implosion”?It’s fucking insane how many hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians died or got maimed fighting a lost war because cringe tards like this talk about “implosions” and “coups” and “economic meltdowns” and “collapse” without ever providing any form of explanation or mechanism as to how exactly is that supposed to happen. Even “experts” are doing this.
>>537212428those people went insane, they literally try to convince Russia that its loosing just repeating it many time and saying “its official”, or what?
>>537215190everyone telling them this for years, i don’t have pity at all for those retards
If they're losing why does Europe have to make a deal to end it
What’s also bizarre is the general shilling approach to this topic on 4chan: average /pol/ user is supposed to believe that people like Macron or Starmer or Merz or all the panoply of EU retards who are failing at everything they do and enjoy like 15% popular support and who keep pushing failing policies against majority of their population are somehow magically right about THIS topic in particular and you’re supposed to believe them.
Lmao Lukashenko apologized to Selenskiy today and also said Russia isnt winning.He is a survivor and a professional rat, he knows where the tide is turning and which ship is sinking kek.Russia lost and I dont get what the average Russian is even trying to gain from the war
A day will come when Ukrainians turn on reddit and discord nafo troons
>>537212428>all my allies say I'm winning!>ignore the entire mechanized brigade deserting...Pathetic display. I feel bad for Ukrainians, at least the ones who didn't vote for this.
>>537215438>grasping at strawsWhat Lukashenko actually said was that a battlefield victory was unlikely. Which is obvious. Wars of attrition between industrial powers end when one side can no longer supply the war machine, not with dramatic battles. See: your country, ww1
>>537215345I’m just amazed at cult-tier idiocy and persistence these retards demonstrate for years now. Since February 2022, we had like 50 cycles of Russia collapsing.>they are out fuel>they are out of ammo>they are out of truck tires (yes this was real) >they are out of men>they are out money>ruble is collapsing >they are out of ammo>they are out of tanks>ruble is collapsing >Crimea is cut off >ruble is collapsing >they are out of tanks>they are out of refineries >they are out of radars>they are out of missiles >70% of strategic bombers destroyed >they are out of money >ruble is collapsing If you consider 2014 as the start of this, we’re talking like 1000 cycles.I still remember some Pole here calling me a retard vatnik in 2014 because I didn’t think Russian economy will collapse in a year.What the fuck does that even mean? How does economy “collapse”? Are they even aware life goes on as normal there and they’re trading with the rest of the world?
>>537215778EU propaganda is North Korea tier at this point
>>537212428Why is it that those who are pushing for war never enter the battlefront? Why do people sign up for supporting corrupted "leaders" and corrupt politicians? It's actually mind-boggling to me how people can just throw their life away. Imagine getting sent to war because some greedy goblins tell you to. Fuck war and famine and all those who supports it. I believe most people just want to drink their coffee in peace and get along with our fellow human beings, but no, let's instead kill and torture each other and fuck each other in the ass. Absolutely disgusting beyond comprehension.
Two more weeks and Russia will fall
>>537215153>antisemitic zelenskyHow can he be an antisemite if he's a jew?
When will the pigkraine stop losing?
>>537215977No it’s not. NK propaganda maintains some level of internal coherence.
>>537215769WW1 was still decided on the battlefield you absolute retard. A battlefield victory includes one side giving up due to unsustainability. And there is no sign that Ukraine will have to stop despite your mantras>>537215778Its not a cult its just sensationalism which is a mental illness in itself. No cycles though, just a continuous downfall of Russia. All the stuff you write is hyperbolic of course but always based on a bit of truth and bit by bit Russia is going down
I propose a petition to relegate winning threads to China collapse tier
>>537212428>losing when will ukraine get any of its lost territory back? how many years till they even get close to crimea?
>>537215425how long till zelensky starts begging for more gibs? if they were winning zelensky should have wrapped up his world begging tour.
>>537216217>bit by bit Okay let’s ignore that for now, Ukraine lost almost 50% of their population during this war, they are fully funded and equipped from abroad, and their morale is so high that significant number of conscripts are abducted from the street.Now let’s even ignore that - Ukraine depends on the foreign support. Among others, German support.Is German economy growing?Is Germany politically stable? Like what the fuck are you talking about. Overblown Russian issues maybe have a kernel of truth, but compared to Ukraine and Western Europe Russian upward trajectory is exponential. It’s quite literally the most stable European country in political and societal sense. So what sort of collapse can we expect here, that won’t occur even faster on the opposing side? Did you miss recent race riots in UK? Did you miss all European politicians being retards?
>>537212428>RUSSIA IS LOSINGKEKAROOOOOOOOI'M HAVING ASSGASMS I LOVE THE UKRAINE
everyone posting here should kys immediately, since 2022 all of you said russia would take all of europe5 years and 200k+ death later, they are stuck in small villages of eastern ukraine, fucking kill yourself
3 days right lads?
>>537216453it looks like they just push in some weak places for the news before next Zelenskiy meeting using all the last weapons they are given, and always get by this move some important fortress surrounded in another place. Then they ran out of drones and calm down waiting for new supply, meanwhile Russia clears the cauldrons and goes on to the next. The problem is Ukrainian fate always depends on the next supply, and the next supply depends how europeans vote. In one day Ukraine can be just lost, if germans vote AfD. I would accumulate some drones if i was Zelenskiy, at least to be able to fight for a year or so after that, but he probably just plans to run away in this case.
And do you miss the fact that all Russian troops are volunteers?Like they go and sign contract with Russian Army and get deployed there.Now just use common fucking sense - which war effort will collapse sooner, one where people volunteer to fight or one where they literally have to beat up and kidnap people on the street? At this point it’s a 150 million nation against 20-23 million nation. How exactly do you see them winning this?
>>537212805Too bad, Putin says war will go on till at least 2030.2x2 more years kek
>>537216810>few retards have overblown the power of Russia so that means you must now suspend your sanity and claim Ukraine will win a war of attrition they’re fighting Great argument.
>>537216979That should worry you cause if he really said that that just means he’s perfectly fine with 4 more years of this and feels no need to lie to his population or fear some magical “collapse” of any sort. Which kinda invalidates the points retards make in this thread.
>>537216639You live with your head in /pol/ memes and not reality. You try so hard to seem reasonable but the things you say are all over the place. Yes Russia is losing, yes fighting a war while being sanctioned with no gains will lead to extreme economic hardships long term.
>>537217044>few retards
Interesting how they all decided russia has lost and needs to go negotiate right after russia puts out a new Starlink Jammer that ookranianns have no counter play against
>>537212428They said so for the last 20 years now, maybe talk less and do more?
>>537216979he said that he wants the regions annexed to be on par with the rest of puccia by 2030.this implies annexing the rest of Kherson and Zaporozhye plus Donețk. and then have them rebuilt by 2030.or it's a cruel joke and they're reduced to typical vatnik poverty levels.
>>537217160>will lead to extreme economic hardships long term.Why? They spend like 7% of their GDP on their military. That’s hardly some dangerous territory. And you think GERMANY where you live, a country relying on industrial exports, won’t suffer economic hardship due to being cut off from any cheap source of energy?
>>537217160LolLmao
mixed signals, it seems like Russia have been having a bad time recently but I won't say near-crisis because the Russians are too blackpilled to ever consider some kind of revolt.That said, this looks desperate from Zelensky and would definitely be tied to the Iran war wrapping up. Attention shifting to the middle east gave Ukraine a lifeline as Russia became isolated. If attention turns back to Europe, it'll get busier on the frontlines again.
>>537217160> extreme economic hardships long termThe next day after sanctions lifted the whole world will be in Moscow buying shit. The worst was the immediate effect in 2022, but then Russia just adapted, many things were replaced either domestically or by China. There is not need even to lift sanctions anymore, no one is waiting for that.
>>537217289>typical vatnik poverty levelsRussian GDP per capita and HDI are basically same as Romanian.
>>537217451and
>>537217319Thanks I’m too arsed to scour through Twitter for all of their retarded predictions.>>537217406Russia is having a bad time only in propaganda narrative of Ukraine shills who seem to be in overdrive for the past month. Funny how none of them mention Ukraine losing another city as we speak (Konstantinovka) and that battle for Kramatorsk and Slavyansk will start soon.
>>537217600Ukrainian HDI and GDP per capita are far worse. So what “poverty” are you talking about?
>>537217451Russia is diverse. I wouldn’t say salaries in Moscow are worse than in Berlin. Just more natural selection, you need to be abit smart to earn money. In Berlin you just need to be a refugee. That is how they make up the average statistics, by giving their last pensions to everyone. An everage german family buys the cheapest fucking pasta in Lidl in huge bags and the cheapest sausages they can find, made from literal paper and glutamate. In Russia no one does it, only hobos.
>>537217612propaganda matters a lot at this stage of a war though. Soldiers would be fatigued and sick of it all, it's clear that the war can't be won militarily so they have to play chicken until one side gives up.Russia trying to make a huge deal out of tiny gains like you mention is all to do with this.>Ukraine losing another city as we speak (Konstantinovka) and that battle for Kramatorsk and Slavyansk will start soon.'soon' and 'as we speak' is weeks to months to years
>>537212428>Two more weeksYou retards are tarped inside here forever
>>537217304>>537217425Holy shit you have no idea about economy. Like you have a posteriori already decided what is the case and that surely nothing bad will come from a country that has nothing but natural resources losing wealthy partners for exporting these resources.There is no truth to be found in these discussions its just a waste of time and you spend too much time repeating the same mantras to justify yourself.Truth will speak for itself though at some point just as it did with the soviet union>>537217716Holy retardation
>>537217934>Holy shit you have no idea about economy.Russia was a closed economy for nearly 100 years. They opened up in 2000 and it was only for 10 years max basically, I think you're the retard here who doesn't know shit about the economy The amount of companies going under year after year in Germany is staggering, yet you're worried about Russia?
>>537213093I mean majority russian regions voted him in and now these regions are under constant threat of mobilisation
>>537216130>tfw pol creates intra-jew conflict
>>537217319If you hit 1-2 fuel tanks that doesnt mean that the whole refinary is out. NAFO-LIB accounts aint good source of info anyway.
>>537218043>The amount of companies going under year after year in Germany is staggeringYeah, wiithout nordstream Germany is basically done.
>>537212428IT'S OVER!!! 2 MORE WEEKS!
>>537217934people will always need energy and resource, there is mo way around. But the shit Europe does is easily replaceable by china. Russia just has to wait and defend its boarders.
>>537212660agreed, netanyahu wishes he was even a quarter of the man zelensky is
Everyone who uses the term deal when only governments are involved should be shot.
>>537218226you wouldn't even need nordstream that badly if your retarded leaders wouldn't have cot off nuclear power and coal power all at the same time AND also blows up gas power plants to install new "hydrogen powerplants" which will not materialize in the next 10 years. Meanwhile you fuckers flood the whole european pwoer grid with "renewable solar power" every time the sun shines and jepordize the whole european net, every time the sun shines and power demand drops you pay 500€/MWh that someoen takes that electricity from you because esle your net collapses
>>537218226> nordstreamyou just need cheap energy from somewhere, no idea why norway wasn't pressured by america to provide it for you
>>537218553BTW Germany has known gas reserves for decades off its coast. It would take only a year to start extracting it. But it's not OK because it would take fracking. Germany is being disintegrated.
>>537218587why would america pressure someone to provide cheap energy for Germany? I guess US enjoy pretty much being the only supplier, you can really fuck germans in the ass as you wish in such situation.
>>537212428lol, 7 faggots agreed so russia must be losing
>>537218587The USA wants to sell its expensive LNG. That's the reason why it blew up 3/4 Nord Stream pipelines and why it uses magic spells (sanctions) against the remaining 1/4 pipelines.
>>537215438> Luka teaming up with UkraineMy body is ready.>>537218211Moscow and St. Petersburg are rationing fuel due to shortages.
>>537212428>winning
>>537218770The USA is still occupying Germany. And Merz and the other transatlanticists are governors of the USA.
>>537212428>G7 leaders agreeIs NATO low of ammunitions and materials and asking Putin to make a deal ?
>>537218587>>537218553Gas is not only used to produce cheap electricity. It is also an important part in generating high-temperature process heat or as a chemical raw material.
>>537218815>>537218770>america's allylol lmao even
>>537218899Forcing a man into a war circus should be answered with the family death penalty for the military police, the lawmakers, and everyone else involved..
>>537218729they even could use their lignite, modern power plants work quite well with it. Also fucking Poland has high quality Bituminous coal which is even better, we fired our coal power plants for decades with it, until our idiots joined the EU and they demaned "coal free EU" (they are also now demolishing this powerplants)And this is not enough those fuckers double down on it... for shit and giggels if you have time look up the "EU Methan regulaton" and ask the AI how much Oil and Gas imports will be illigal into the EU in 2027.
>>537217934I will never understand this 'muh economy' cope from NAFOfags. If you apply the same logic to Ukraine then their economy has already 'collapsed' 50 times over. Yet they're still fighting.
>>537219179Ukraine is broke as fuck and in debt for 100 years. If you think there are some pensions saved there you are very naive. The whole country is sold out including the people.
>>537212428>I have the unanimityLogical fallacy
>>537212428>Look guys, w-we're defeating Russia! Forget the fact that 20 million people have fled from the country and the fact that we're unable to take back land that was conquered from us, what's that? We're running out of man power? Uhh, QUICK! Start hiring foreigners! Also start sending back men who escaped from this country, we gotta keep sending these innocent men into the meat grinder!Zelensky is a funny man Lol
>>537215438you know things arent good for ukr when nafo bots only find hope from belarus's presidents words
Ukraine already lost half of its population and hundreds of thousands of dead soldiers. Ukrainian shills will pretend that none of this is happening and that Russians are the only ones dying in the battlefield Russia is fucked too but the damage to Ukraine is irreversibleso much for winning Ukraine sisters
List of military aid by 57 countries to Ukraine, sure then can give morehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_aid_to_Ukraine_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War
>>537215190Dude you really are in ukraine thread sucking russia 24/7 holy
>>537219483>ColombiaThere were captured Colombians on the frontlines. There is all kind of scum from the whole world fighting there.
>>537213368You have to go back
>>537219585every big war attracts mercs, soldier of fortune, they are in for the money, they are expendable and used by everyone.
>>537219698Shalom
>>537212428>we agreed that Russia is losing so Putin has to make a dealdelusional take as always from these people
>>537212660That would be Netanyahu
>>537218899>voluntary military service starting in the summer of 2026As opposed to what did they have before?
Russia will collapse in 2 weeks!
>>537212428What's to stop Russia from declaring war in Ukraine and ordering a full mobilization?
>>537217665the russoid kind
>>537219998You can win as much as you like just send in the next wave of russian subhumans
Not yet. Coprofaggots are incredibly resilient.
>>537220392The powerful steely glare of powerful women leaders!
>>537217319This is an outdated estimate. New estimates have shown Russia to collapse in fourteen days.
>>537220392Busification in Russia might not work. There are no patriots. Russians don’t give a fuck about the politics or the world in general and even about Russia, no one pays tax, only Putins oligarch friends. The common agreement is that government has oil money and don’t bother normal people with their shit.
>we're winning!
lmao no way fag
>>537220392What's to stop russians from having mongoloid shaped heads?
>>537220775That is a proud man who wants to fight for his country.
Putler is also running out of tankshttps://fronts.co/article/deconstructing-the-myth-that-russia-is-running-out-of-armour/
>>5372188262 more weeks than and mass revolt in Moscow and St Peterburgs plus you will be a woman :)
>>537219179Ukraine don't even have a ''economy'' anymore lol it is all sustained by Western and Jewish gibs
>>537212805Whose fault is it that hohols want to fight to the last hohol?
>>537221716I blame the vatniks. you know, for invading hoholinos.
>>53721940950,000 rubles have been deposited to your account, tovarisch.
>>537221847They asked for that. Russia was feeding their abomination of a country for decades. Open market for their food, cheep gas, even free one since they were stealing half of the gas passing by, constant loans that were never payed and so on. Their whole economy was based on russian gibs. And they decided to become a nato base. Even after 10 years of serious discussions they didn’t change their mind. The country is gone, but its their fault.
>>537219409Where is Russia fucked, the only fucking they are tired of doing is on NATO's ass KEK
>>537222431it's their fault for russoids bombing them
>>537212714No can do sorry! To the last zigger.
>>537217665>what “poverty” are you talking about?this kind, picrel are russian hospitals outside of MKAD (the Moscow Ring Road). pootin spends over 38% of the russian federal budget on the war now and has spent close to $746 billion in 4 years.
>>537222539The only difference between russian and american gibs was that russian money you have to spend somehow also on the economy a report abit, but american money you can just keep for yourself, and you only need to report how you annoyed russia regularly, banning the language or causing other problems. May be host some biolabs. So nato funding was more attractive for the goverment.
>>537222431every claim is literally a lie, pidrila.
if the hohols are winning why they need 30 billions of my money every year?
>>537212428Again this piss deal. Russia still has resources to continue their kike war but nobody knows how long they can last so I think they will sign that meme deal right before Trump leaves the white house. Because after Dems take back the power Russia is fucked and they know it. Will use that ceasefire break to arm more.
>>537212428Based
>>537223219>why they need 30 billions of my money every year?cocaine, golden toilets, yachts, mansions in miami and israel. and a couple extra billion to live off of when they flee to israel
>>537223249the deal was to get the donbas, which was clear for everyone. If not peacefully then through military. Why EU and hohols pretend they don’t know? There was never any other deal.
>>537219698>and then everyone clapped this isn't reddit faggot
>>537223249And compromise was to leave the rest join EU, if they leave russian speaking regions that they bombed peacefully. What other deal could be made there? I don’t get what Europeans want and why it is bad for them, they really retarded or something.
>>537215190>WHO is gonna coup him?his FSB underlings trying to not die with him.
>>537212428>G7 leaders agree russia is losingThat's nice and all but has russia agreed yet?
>>537215778collapse is gradual and exponential retardyou just pretended the events showing an exponential curve were not real
>>537223925>What other deal could be made there?russians leave dombass and crimea and their industry get deleted by drones.
>>537212428>We have decided that Russia is losing
>>537215778>>537215977>>537216187You retards say this while in 2022 pic rel was being spammed 24/7.As vatniks you have to pretend failing to take Kyiv and the miles of destroyed tanks was a 'gesture of goodwill, we didn't lose we left on purpose haha'.
>>537212660You are the greatest faggot on the planet.
>>537224155That is more like an Iran deal. Russia actually didn’t piss the pants and fought against drones. So you can fuck off with such proposals.
