Are people in Oklahoma retarded?
>>537227379There's a lot of black people in Oklahoma. It's also the home of the smashburger. That's all I know about Oklahoma.
Democracy at work.
>>537227379they're feather injuns, rednecks, and nigs too lazy to leave the south so...
I live here and yes they are. Most of them are good people, but they actively vote for the worst things to happen to us. We deserve to be last in every metric. Every county went to Trump and even this year every candidate's campaign ad is competing to fellate the orange man the most. For this particular question there were two types of commercials: One, that barely aired, was for raising the minimum wage and specifically said what it was for.And of course the commercial that aired 50x more (due to funding from rich fucks) wasn't saying what the vote was even for but that good people should vote against if they don't want society to explode and they love Jesus or whatever.
Based. If you don’t like working for minimum wage, take a job that pays more.
>>537227379As someone who has lived here all my life. I'm still amazed at how retarded this state is.
>>537227379Lawton Oklahoma is a mystery meat melting pot where you honestly can't tell who's black, Indian, Mexican, or native and there's practically no attractive women at all just disgusting fat homeless drug addicts and military fags
>>537227379Minimum wage hikes don't actually make snything more affordable for minimum wage earners. They just increase the cost of everything so minimum wagees are still in the same boat but every bracket above them has to pay more.
>>537227379https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkuKrymtuCg
/pol/ always has endless excuses for Oklahoma's condition as anything but their voting habitsSad!
Honestly, look what happened to California. We've hiked the shit out of minimum wage and every time it happens prices go up to meet the new labor costs and the minimum wage earner is no better off than where he started.
>>537227379Why do they hate themselves so much?
Yes. Like not even some sort of attack on the people, they are. The politicians there have been deliberately sabotaging the school system for years with the understanding that if it gets bad enough everyone will go to private and charter schools instead which don't have the same rules as true public schools and they can teach children to worship "Izruhl" and corporations. Until the goycademies are real they are literally just producing examples of people we don't want around us that they can later use to sell their idea of a "better way"
>>537228187Why are you so short sighted. It increases labor costs which increases prices and nobody is better off. People in higher brackets are worse off and minimum wagees are exactly where they started. The state doesn't tend to adjust their poverty line either so minimum wagees are just above where they could get food stamps or free medical.
>>537227379>Are people in Oklahoma retardedall I know is that they roll their joints all wrong
>approve 100 dollar minimum wage>Oklahoma becomes richest state in the countryAm I the only one thinking this?
>>537228005>increasing your pay doesn't actually benefit you, goy
>>537227379>Are people in Oklahoma retarded?Minimum wage is a retarded concept, all it does is punish disadvantaged workers (low skill, mental disability, etc) and make it state mandated that they cannot work.If a minimum wage is so good, then why set it at $15? Why not $1500/hr, Why not $15,000/hr? Why not just set the minimum wage at $15 million per hour and every person could retire after working for one hour.
>>537228306>minimum wagees are just above where they could get food stamps or free medicalDo you honestly not see a problem with this anon? I really hope you get through whatever you are going through man it’s sad to see you like this you don’t gotta hate yourself bro a better life is possible
>>537228384It doesn't because prices on everything go up and it puts the full time minimum wagee above the maximum where they could receive benefits like free medical insurance or food stamps. This is what happened in CA.
>>537227379Oklahoma>Understands economics.Libs>"Are they retarded?"
>>537228005This frfr. If you want higher wage, you have to actually have a strong domestic market that actually produces things and employs people, and aren't just tenuous bubbles, and service sector bullshit that they can uproot and offshore if they feel you're being too uppity. If people are actually making more and the costs of goods produced domestically match those costs, then you have a better chance of decent wages and affordability in a balanced market. As it is now, if you raise minimum wage, everything else just rises with it, because most of what you buy isn't manufactured by the costs of your market, it's cheap shit manufactured for relative pennies and then shipped back to you at a disgusting mark-up; as commies would say, you're nowhere in the chain of the means of production, you're just a consoomer with no real influence nor power.
>>537227379no, you are
>>537228462Based
>>537227379No. Raising minimum wage results in the middle class that already was making more than minimum wage getting fucked because it makes things cost more, and also just speeds the pace of outsourcing and automation.
>>537228488I do see a huge problem with this, but, raising minimum wage isn't the answer. They should be extending those benefits to minimum wage earners but they don't adjust the threshold for receiving those types of benefits when they raise minimum wage and the employers raise their prices to cover labor costs eliminating any benefit from earning higher minimum wage.
>>537228462This. Their best response is “well $15 seems reasonable” ok how do you know? “Oh like vibes man”.
>>537228462>If a minimum wage is so good, then why set it at $15? Why not $1500/hr, Why not $15,000/hr? Why not just set the minimum wage at $15 million per hour and every person could retire after working for one hour.Do you think it maybe related to why it's called a "minimum" wage, and not the "retire after one hour" wage?
>>537228005You can recover more money from the government if some corpo fucks steal your paycheck. It happened to me and I couldn't recover a few hundred dollars I was owed because they technically paid me above the federal minimum wage in the weeks they committed paycheck theft.
>>537227770it's about collective bargaining, retard. if it's legal for an idiot who lives alone with his parents and doesn't realize he's getting ripped off to work for less than a living wage, than no one will pay a "living in my own house" wage anymore. oh but don't worry, your tax dollars will be used to pay for the idiot's foodstamps, which he is eligible for even though he has a fulltime job.
>>537228662So you get to decide how fast I retire? Fascist
>>537227379You wanna fight?
>>537228681>its communism, retardNo we knew that.
I voted no, i did my part to keep the poors poor.Get fucked.
>>537228724So you're just a rightoid pretending not to understand things?
>>537228681If you lie on the forms, yes. They want to know about the household when you apply for foodstamps. But, if it's just you and you have full time employment you'll be above the maximum monthly pay to receive benefits. If you get caught lying they'll make you pay it all back by garnishing your wages, too.
>>537228510holy shit the judaism. if you want to make less money then work fewer hours, don't work more hours for less money.
I dunno if they're retarded but a common theory is the reason California will never fall off the US is because Oklahoma sucks so much
>>537227755>>537227902What's your guys' secret for not being retarded? I assume you're native Oklahomans
>>537228821No I’m just entering your frame, which is retarded.
>>537227379If you’re stuck earning minimum wage past 18, you’re retarded and brown. End of story.
>>537228887My family moved to Oklahoma from Missouri in 1896, and before that Kentucky. Grandma always said the government was horseshit, and you can only count on yourself. Unfortunately most of Oklahoma voted for handouts and became slaves to standard oil after 1932.
>>537228624No they should raise the wages and execute anyone that is greedy that raises their prices and then confiscate all their wealth and redistribute it to the people
>>537229052Whenever govt fights the market, theres a figurative loan taken out. Either other people pay, or other pay at another time pay. Boomer era unions screwed modern era workers.
>>537228748you're saying collective bargaining is communism. okay.>>537229052if you take away the ability to pay a brown-level wage, then corporations can't employ brown people anymore.>>537228825>As of last August, 1,430 Amazon employees or family members were getting assistance under the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), according to the Ohio Department of Job & Family Services.>In August, the average Ohio family receiving SNAP contained just more than two people. Based on that average, more than 700 Amazon workers received benefits that month, or more than one in every 10 of those Ohioans employed by the company.
>>537227379A lot of minimum wage joints are already paying over that now so raising the minimum wage give McDonald's an excuse to cap pay at that
>>537229345>if you take away the ability to pay a brown-level wage, then corporations can't employ brown people anymore.No, inflation occurs, the dollar is devalued, the new “minimum wage” is what browns are paid, and the cycle repeats.
>>537228834Having a strong economy, small government and no monopolies/oligopolies running local commerce is how you actually have your dollar be worth more overall. Minimum wage could go up to $45/hr and it wouldn't solve this problem because they will just print more, tax you more, and raise costs more to compensate. You want to fix the economy? Remove or severely limit the Stock Market which would dismantle all monopolies/oligopolies and the companies who are 'too big to fail' would collapse overnight which would solve the brown problem, remove income tax off of the bottom 50% of earners (except foreign workers) and remove all red tape for starting a local business so if your neighbour grew too many cucumbers she doesn't get fucked by 'zoning by-laws' because she sold a few from her yard and within 6 months everything would be affordable again. People just don't get how much Amazon or Wal-Mart have fucked local economies.
>>537227379i live in the south east corner, and yes, yes they are fucking retarded, foodstamp\ebt is a monthly holiday for all the non whites, and the fucking indian casions just drains all the money from the towns their in
>>537229248That's really stupid, anon. They should just adjust so the lowest income bracket can receive those types of benefits and kick out all the illegals and make non-working welfare leeches do community service if they aren't disabled or old enough to collect social security. That way they can fund the non-skilled worker that performs the services the rest of society needs.
>>537229345Yeah if you have more than one mouth to feed you qualify for benefits. If you're on your own you're assed out.
>>537227379Do you know what cost of living in Oklahoma is? You can get a house for like $500 a month.
>>537228887The secret is to be 1pbtid posts creating artificial consensus on a shill threadThe correlation between "hello i am oklahoma and" and dropping a teo paragraph comment and then never returning to reply is high enough to be accepted as a sociological theory.
>>537230227Oh don’t worry I plan on making people work too especially if I don’t like their reactionary ways
>>537228847kek, it's true. This state is a gigantic shithole. I don't even care what the thread is about, I just came in to shit on this piece of shit state.
>>537230600You're just going to get killed by your number one henchman.
>>537231084If that is the price to pay for revolution so be it comrade
>>537231174Lol, lmao. Western liberals will be buying a T-shirt with your face on it for at least sixty years, hero of the revolution.
>>537231232If I could unite the workers of the world I think that would be incredibly based have have a great face for it
>>537231232And I'll be showing pictures of your butthole to your kids and grandkids and all other forever.Whenever they ask "Why are we so rich"? Someone will show them pictures of your butthole to them and say "Cause of this, this is your grandmother".
>>537231359Ain't capitalism grand?
>>537228005Ayyy someone who isn't economically illiterate. Just like most of Oklahoma.>>537228384Here's a retard. >>537228662Here's a polish retard which may be redundant.Arbitrary price floors on labor are retarded. Not the people that dont vote for them. Mkayyyyy?
>>537231569>Ayyy someone who isn't economically illiterate. Just like most of Oklahoma.I am economically illiterate. It's just I experienced this in California. Sure, I'm always a few dollars above minimum. (Which is what always happens, you're offered a few bucks above minimum for the work I do.) But price hikes make the minimum wage hike meaningless every time.
>>537228005That actually isn't true but ok. They *do* go up, but considering the vast majority of economic activity isn't around minimum wage, and people up the chain don't get corresponding raises, it basically only raises the price on shit that uses minimum wage labour.
Go to California if you want $50/hr min wage.
>>537228887Family came from outside of Oklahoma, from Colorado for the cost of living (low). Oklahoma is full of fat fucks and people who will believe just about anything if you wrap it in a flag. I would have left, but I don't yet have the money.It's a little sad that the state was originally a hotbed of non-Marxist socialism, which can be based, until they got subverted hard.
>>537228005>Minimum wage hikes don't actually make snything more affordable for minimum wage earners. They just increase the cost of everything so minimum wagees are still in the same boat but every bracket above them has to pay more.THIS. But the JEW GOVERNMENT POLITICIANS get more in taxes! That's the scam. Min wage hike = higher prices for everyone = more taxes for gov.
>>537231694No goy, EVERYTHING goes up, even luxury goods. (((They))) always use the excuse minimum wage screws up everything, just to earn a biiiit more
>>537228462Nigga how is earning more money punishment? Are you retarded?If the minimum wage had been adjusted for inflation, it would be $15, that is why the chose that number and not 15000.As per the retarded propaganda that "it increases prices", workers salary represent 15% of total cost on average and not all the employees make minimum wage, so the number is much lower than that, if you only consider them.
>>537228005The idea of people having more supply of money leading to increased demand for goods and therefor increased price for goods might be true, but your application of this principle is retarded. There's no way raising like 10% of the populations wages by a buck or two is going to lead to an increased cost large enough to wipe the net gain from their raise.
probably that they're literally in the middle of nowhere and actually paying your workers means 90% of businesses close.You haven't ever been to one of those ghost towns where the residents just slowly disappear over time.
>Minimum wage goes up>Prices go up for everything elseSimple as.
>>537228681>an idiot who lives alone with his parentsthat's called living with your parents, not living alone.minimum wage is for high school kids to have their first job, etc.If the min. wage now is $7.50 and they raise it to $15 guess what? they raise the price of your $1 hamburger to $2 and your rent from $500 to $1000. It doesn't matter, politicians campaigning on raising the minimum wage are scamming for votes, nothing more.
>>537232560>they raise the price of your $1 hamburgerthis is warmwater port tier
>>537232321>I can't effectively manage my business without being able to pay people slave wagessounds like you shouldn't have a business
>free country>noooo you must pay what we tell you to!holy fucking government cucks. You poor low IQ faggots need them to titty feed you through life. ZERO business owners in this thread. 100% snipped dick cattle.
>>537232710Not sure what you're saying here exactly but you used to be able to get a burger for $1. Now they're $2.Min wage used to be like 25 cents an hour back in the day too and people were still better off than now even making their $X0,000/yr.
>>537227379No, they're based.>>537227755>Every county went to TrumpSounds based to me faggot. Go back.
>>537228554>>537228624Yes, the best way to increase wages is to bring manufacturing jobs back to the U.S., and stop bringing in millions of desperate people who are willing to work for almost nothing, including off the books so crooked employers prefer them to avoid paying payroll taxes.
>>537227379The California AB 1228 "$20 an hour for fast food workers" law has been studied heavily. The fallout was:>Out of every 100 workers, 2.7 lost their jobs.>Businesses cut back on worker hours or the number of people scheduled per shift>Menu prices were raised>The adoption of automation and self-service technology was acceleratedSo... Was it worth it? The people that kept their jobs are either working less hours or working harder with a smaller crew.
>>537231694There are few jobs that offer straight minimum wage. The jobs are usually a few dollars higher than minimum to attract workers. Those jobs have to go up to stay above minimum and the government uses a metric that's draconian as fuck. You either have to be a part timer or have more than yourself dependant on your income to reap the benefits. The illegals make below minimum which isn't even documented making them eligible for everything. If you can say goose egg for income a lot of doors are opened on the socialism.
Socialism is supposed to socially program behavior, so if we're giving people who don't make anything on paper the socialism it encourages not making anything on paper. The citizen is assed out while the illegal reaps the benefits.
>>537227379Yeah just look at the shape of their fucking state.
>>537227379yeah they are. $15/hr isn't even a lot.
>they'll raise the prices Just stop them?>You can't do that!Uh yeah you can
Higher minimum wage = less jobs. Retarded if you disagree. Minimum wage workers can just get a higher paying job. Retarded if they settle for their same job
>>537235044If the minimum wage is raised those higher paying jobs can demand more since those other jobs are easier and pay just as much now
It makes everything worse.t. Washingtonian
