because the entirety of western civilization is built on capitalism, maximizing shareholder values and line only goes up business models. you want white people to have kids? Get rid of capitalism
>>537234230Just use this. Saved you like 1000 dollars and you can use it for gardening. The Jews fear the wheelbarrow.
>>537234418Forgot pic.
>>537234230>wah wah wah i'm a stupid poorfag!>gimme gimme gimmeGod, poor people are worse than rich niggers. And THAT is saying something.
>>537234446>henchman brandvery dignified
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>>537234230No it’s due to jews pushing feminism and forcing women to work as a result. Capitalism has been around long before this liberal fucking cocksucker kike society we have now
>>537234230"capitalism" is basically just "let people do what they want economically" When you "get rid of capitalism," how will you control everyone economically?
>>537234230The Vista V3 is way overhyped for its price. If you want a premium stroller that can accommodate two seats, the Bugaboo Kangaroo mogs. Much better suspension, better features, insanely smooth handling.
>>537234230Dumb, wrong, 1-dimensional and retarded "thought."
>>537234230Can you name a society with women's rights, capitalist or otherwise, that had a birth rate below two, then rose back above two by economically encouraging births?
>>537234230>Over 1000 burger shekels for a baby stroller I can likely make something from wood that would turn into a heirloom for less than 200 burger shekels in materials
>>537234446dad identified.
>>537234230>UPPAbabyThat is a chink brand they use on anazon, they generate random words and reopen when the old brand gets tarnished
>>537234230Fun fact: you don't actually need a $1300 stroller to have a kid. Your parents and grandparents and every other human going back hundreds of thousands of years survived and thrived and reproduced despite not ever being pushed around in a $1300 stroller. And this might be hard to believe, but there are literally billions of people on Earth today who never owned or used or touched or saw a $1300 stroller or anything remotely close to it. The number of successful human parents who actually own a $1300 is statistically non-existent.And that's not even considering that literally every other species in the entire known universe manages to successfully take care of their offspring despite not having money or jobs or pretty much anything, much less $1300 strollers.
>>537234230Few points: >Vistas are overrated, buy a Bugaboo Donkey instead>You can get these things for significantly less second hand>You don't need a top-of-the-line pram in the first place>>537234706My fellow Bugaboo niggaI still think the SxS layout is better than front-back, especially if you have a big toddler. Mine are only two years apart, and my toddler is still above the weight rating of the Vista. And I personally think they're easier to manoeuvre through tight spaces. I do sometimes wish I had that massive under-seat storage, but the side basket is really handy when you only have one seat installed.
>>537235330Worse, it's Am*rican.They legitimately are great though, if you have the money.
just buy the same thing second hand. people are always getting rid of prams.people also give them away for free.
>>537234230Wrong, the fertility collapse is almost entirely due too the decline in accidental pregnancies. It has nothing to do with economics. As it is, right wing Whites actually have the highest birthrates in the developed world. So we simply have to crack down on immigration and stay the course.
>>537234230>cherrypicks an expensive stroller >whaaaa this is why people aren't having kids /pol/!
>>537234446Read the OP again. White people won’t carry around their kid in a wheelbarrow like some uncultured dog-eating gook insect like you. This thread doesn’t concern you, get the fuck out.
>>537234527anon forgot to mention that all this plastic consumer shit aimed at women has an (((official used before date))) for virtuous (((safety reasons))). its a double layer of added consumer rube built into the product that never expires but all women adhere for extra social media likes.
>>537234230>steal a shopping cart>throw a pillow in that bitch>keep a sheet of carboard to put over top if the suns outThank fuck I'm a redneck.
>>537235331but its the only reason western women have children these days. for social media likes and real life smug points. taking them public is for official flexing on other women. and you need an official BABY DISPLAY ROLLER ™ device for that. now with 12 easy payments of fiat jew debt accumulation also available
>>53723423070% of consumer purchases are women. They buy anything that they see other women in the Internet buying, using, or especially neither of these but wanting to. They are retarded creatures and if you don't put them on a leash, your house will fill up with whatever Jewish Amazon slop promises to save them 3 seconds from however their grandmother did the thing because they all think their time is valuable now.
>>537234230Have you considered using a second hand store?
>>537235941Fuck why not? Just slap a car seat in there and you're good to go. Only fags care about appearances.
>>537237203i think its closer to 90%. when you co-habit with a female it really becomes obvious how much useless shit foids purchase and how infantile their minds are. >but anon every other girl has one of these so i had to get one. including all my friends and I see it in my notifications and feeds blah blah blahits a regular weekly foid event. and its as insidious as fuck
>>537237132Find a woman who isn't like that then. My wife is normal.
>>537234230If you can't afford a 1300 dollar stroller then you can't afford to have kids. Leave it to the rich negro women, poorfag
>>537237465>My wife is normal.bullshit cope and you know it. less so if you're a dyke
>>537234230A baby carrier wrap costs less than 50USD at Walmart new. I just checked. You will need 3 or 4 in different sizes as the babby grows but that is all. And it servers multiple children or can be sold used after. Next excuse to not have a baby?
>>537235941White people can afford strollers though
>>537235941No, white people put their kids in the buckets of tractors and then get surprised when they go over a bump and the kids all get launched and break their necks. Swear it happens like once a week out here.
>>537234230Father or 3 here. You don't need to buy this overpriced crap.It's like complaining about not being able to afford a Mercedes G-Class when all you need is a Toyota Corolla.>>537234446Based and kimchi-pilled.
>>537234230Why do you need 30 fucking configurations?
>>537235941You are indian. Korea is whiter than canada
>>537237897I dunno, maybe they're reading the Kama Sutra.
>>537235331This, consumer culture has absolutely cooked normies by inflating their expectations for their standard of living. Having kids isn’t about stuff, the essentials are available dirt cheap second hand, there’s plenty of stuff you’ll use like, twice that you should just borrow if you can and people are still buying more shit. Honestly I think having kids is just an excuse to buy more shit for normies
>>537237203Talk to your wife about her social media use and spending??? Have appropriate financial goals as a couple???God this board is so fucking cucked when it comes to handling women
>>537234230People can build their own baby strollers for a fraction of the cost with basic materials.
>>537238640>Talk toWoman detectedIf you were a man you'd know how retarded your proposition is
just get this one, who gives a shit
>>537234446fair enough
>>537234230Capitalism is great. It puts all the financial risk in the hands of individuals and creates the public good of employment and tax revenue for the government. The problem is that it needs careful oversight to spot and stop abuse, and encourage competition. We love sports because they are bound by the rules of engagement all parties must adhere to and both parties typically are of same level of skill to encourage a competetive and interesting game. Same should apply to capitalism. Shame the largest capitalist country decided that corporations and interest groups can just buy politicians in the open and regulatory bodies no longer care about blatant monopolistic practices. Citizens United was a disaster for long term health of politics and we can see it bear fruits first with Trump, then with coming wave of left wing populism
>>537237408Boomer parents still in their sphere of influence exacerbate the Jewish shit too. Boomer MIL buys a new appliance for the kitchen and that guarantees my wife will "need" it too. Eg, spiral cutting device that gets used once every 5 years for one recipe, an instant pot, which is a pressure cooker with buttons, and that was so incredible and amazing 7 years ago until they came out with the latest EZbake device which is currently an air fryer and it's a convection oven with buttons which goes well with our full size convection oven with buttons. A micro version of both of these. Oh I guess most recently a Keurig has phased out and now millennial women are all getting pounded with Nestles Keurig and their $80 boxes of K cups or N cups because we ended up with one of those for no great reason. Its an ongoing source of friction, even if you manage to reign it in. The Bible was right about women, they're retarded and have to be babysat and controlled. Modernity is that times a thousand because if you marry a normie consoomer they surround and are surrounded by enabler normie consoomers. The system perpetuates itself
>>537238859women apparently do give a shit here. nobody else would bay 1K for a baby stroller. its insane as you just proved as much. they're only used maybe 3x a week for 12months maximum. only foids can tell you the reasons for a 1K device and dont expect any logic reasoning.
>>537239005100% your post. I think my kitchen currently has 5 of spiral cutting devices. one overpriced tefal version HAS NEVER BEEN USED In 5 years. ever. I hid it in storage because I onsell as much of this duplicated shit as possible. I intercept deliveries and send them back all the time. sadly the cunt found it after a while and then threw away the box.women are proven infantile morons. if my foid partner didnt have her own job income I would never put up with any of it, instead I now have my own anthropology thesis in development. >nespresso trashalthough for useful appliances I draw the line at a shit espresso pods.t. french made all steel trad espresso machine. 16 years no breakdowns
>>537239005Holy shit youre a completely spineless cuckold. Your wife is out of control and youre just seething about it
You guys are overlooking the fact that ridiculously expensive products aren't for us, they're for the rich. A thousand bucks to them is nothing
>>537239153Literally nobody is buying them.You guys make up imaginary scenarios to get mad at imaginary women as usual
>>537234230Those things come out of tunnels in Crown Heights, totally free.
>>537234230> Go to thrift store> Buy stroller for 7 bucksYeah that's the problem
>>537234230Parents in my neighbourhood use pet strollers, they like the netting to keep the bugs out.>>537234446That bring me back when my dad would fill it water and I would have my own little pool.
>>5372378971 or 2 seats, each seat can be forward or backwards, each seat can be a bassinet, car seat or toddler seat, etc, etc.
>>537234496If you wanna grease OPs butthole, you don't have to b8 so hard
>>537234230i don't understand how this shit makes profit. surely there's an oversupply of baby buggys in the world? the kids only use them for 3 years or some shit. don't femoids sell them on cheap after they've stopped needing them?
>>537234230Just like, buy a different one.
>>537234230No. It is Marxist feminist ideology, which is anti-natal and basically controls all institutions in Western countries.
>>537234230Poor people don't buy new prams, you retard. They buy them for $10-20 on Craigslist/Facebook.
>>537234230How do you get rid of an ism? People don’t really follow -isms, they serve themselves
>>537234230Why do you need this shit at all? How fucken weak are you? Just carry your baby around.>inb4 but muh womenWhat the fuck is your wife doing outside unaccompanied, let alone with your offspring?
>>537239616>and literally here is my data backing my claimthat's some nice foid posting. useless hole
>>537237203Interestingly, prams are one of the very few consumer purchases which are mostly made by men. You can actually see it in the marketing: they'll talk about all of the different configurations, how easy they are to fold, the superior suspension, the luggage capacity etc.Whereas the few brands which are targeted at women are marketed quite differently.>>537237897>Just my newborn: bassinet>Just my toddler: stroller>Both kids, lots of walking: side by side>Both kids, tight spaces or lots of shopping: bassinet and scooter>Bringing my nephew as well: side by side with scooter>Going in the car: replace the bassinet with the car capsuleI could go on. All of these are configurations that I use on a weekly basis. You can't safely put newborns into upright strollers, by the way, so you need the bassinet until they're about 6mo old.>>537241177I do that too. I own 3 prams and 4 baby carriers. Babywearing is better in some ways, and worse in others. My 2yo weighs 17kg, so I could technically wear him, but he can walk. The pram is just good when he gets tired.>>537240762If you have 3 kids spaced 2 years apart, then you're using it for maybe 7 years? And then you can give it to a family member. One of my prams is a hand-me-down and it's still great. They last forever. I agree that you should probably buy second-hand though, especially with something expensive like a Donkey.
>>537241177Never used a stroller with my kids. Did go hiking at the Grand Canyon when they were 6 and 8.
>>537234230the problem isnt capitalism, its rich people who can afford this gaffbasically the world economy is one big ponzi
>>537242039Never used floaties for swimming either. Great swimmers. Taught them to read in a week after they each turned 4.
Prams are more for the parents than the children it seems. Being able to get out and about. Being able to get it in and out of the boot. If it does the job and suits your purpose does anyone really give a shit if it costs 100 or 1200. The child certainly doesn't if its dry and comfortable.
>>537234230>you want white people to have kids? Get rid of capitalismNo strollers lead to more babies?
>>537234230Or maybe you don't know how to shop. Baby strollers are 80-300 dollars in retail stores. 80 for most basic shit and up to 300 for a fancy one that doubles as a car seat. The only reason that one is 1300 dollars is because it's some sort of modular transformer shit meant for multiple children. The economy isn't stopping third worlders from having kids. Browns are popping them up and because they have a more cohesive social structure and don't live above their means by necessity they make it work.Modern White women expect to be able to still afford their lives and pay for full time child care aka pre-indoctrination centers so they can go waste time at their do nothing corporate jobs. No I think we need a 10 year trial of 1800s era women rights and see how that goes.
>>537234230>capable of properly identifying what game is being played, and how it is being played>too dumb to take advantage of itevery retard can download a neobroker app nowadays and just put their money into a broad ETF. it's free money, and it easily compensates for what you lost on these schemes
>>537234230True. If you build a society around what makes people the most money, and sets them well off then kids are not an asset.>>537234496Cuck
>>537242767Every other species on earth has more kids when times are hardMoney dictating your choice to have children is your consent to being enslaved by the money system
>>537235941he was joking newfag go back to lurking you cringe cunt
>maximizing shareholder valuesCapitalism is the exchange of goods or servises for money or whatever. It has nothing to do with shareholders or investors so why did you include it like that?
>>537234230we dont have a population collapse.when i was young we could play on the street by ourself, now its filled with jews and cars everywhere. it stinks. not a single person is white.
>get rid of capitalismlooks like that also doesn't work
>>537234632Your kike superiors know what is best for everyone
>>537234230>>537234446>nooo you don't understand i HAVE to move my baby in a box on wheels and they made it too expensivehave you considered something else that has been done since billions and billions of years?
>>537234230You're supposed to buy baby shit from thrift stores. They're basically brand new. Babies outgrow their clothes in a few months then the parents donate them. Strollers too.
>>537234230I bought a stroller like that and a bunch of accessories for even more than that price.Used it for 4 kids.Now it seems fine.$1600 / 4 = $400 per kid.No big deal man.
>>537234706Been very happy with BabyJogger brand.>inb4 Jogger
>>537234230You don't HAVE to buy that stroller.You don't even have to buy it new.I didn't buy a single stroller brand new for my daughter.
And then when the kid ages out you find them second-hand for €20. When my sister had a kid I got a Nuna Mix with the carry cot included for absolutely free, just had to go get it, that's like 900 euro bucks new. Just don't be a mindless consumer who needs everything new.
>>537234706Borrowed a buggaboo and it was nice but went with one of these instead. Very lightweight, compact and handles well. Has a bassinet too which was the clincher since a lot of brands don't have that option for their compact model.
>>537235419They are. Wife got a travel model and I am legitimately impressed by how light it is and how easy it is to pack up and deploy. I think it was like $350
>>537234706wife and i picked up the display model vista 3 for half price and i will dispute your claim about smooth handling. this thing glides like it's not even touching the ground. came with a great bassinet that both our kids have used now too
>>537234230Just carry children in a bag before your chest, like humas did through all of history.Is also better in public transport.
>>537234567Capitalism caused that because capitalists wanted to drive down the cost of labor. Same reason why they opened the borders to mass migration.>>537234632Capitalism is a societal system where there exists a capitalist that owns the means of production. Capitalism did not exist prior to the industrial revolution. Capitalism is entirely a modern system.
>>537234230 The only thing that should be bought new for a baby is a car seat. Everything else get second hand
>>537234230>>537235941Hmm, interesting. I looked up "baby stroller affordable safe" on Amazon and they are all WAY, WAY LESS than this bougie $1300 one you pulled out of your ass, OP.
I know most of pol will never experience this (theyre incels with no hope of procreating), but a good travel system is worth the money.
>>537247275Anything with less than a 4.5 average review, anywhere, and even a lot of things with review averages greater, are complete garbage and trash.My ex-wife was like you, she would think she could just search something and all the options were good and valid. What a retard.You must be at least 50 years old, aren’t you?Every review system is botted to hell. If there’s few reviews, you can’t trust it. If there’s too many reviews, you can’t trust it. If the average review is 4.9 or 5.0, you probably can’t trust it. If the average review is below 4.5, it’s probably Chinese plastic junk, but somewhat functional. If the average review is below 4.0, it’s actually just trash.
>>537239153>12months maximumthey're still pretty handy til your kids are about 4 years old memecunt
>>537247275have you ever tried reasoning with a new mother that's gotten pregnant after 30? i.e., an average first time mother?$500 spend minimum. As in, that will be her actual filter setting when viewing.
>>537247899She worked 10 years at her email girl job to earn money so now her dysgenic weak autism baby deserves the BEST Chud.
>>537234706>Boogaboo I'd be arrested for naming the brand here.>>537234230 Strollers are $20 used for ones that are essentially brand new. People don't go outside anymore.
>>537234230>not buying this kind of shit second handMy cousin recently had a child and they got their stroller for like 50 bucks from someone they knew, great condition. Sounds like a (You) problem
>>537247968Funny how it WOULD be somewhat rational in current year for women to use their system advantage to work until their late 20s and put by massive amounts of money, then get pregnant, become a homeschooling non-wagie mother and their family can ride well on both the husbands income and her savings.. but instead they get into debt and expect the husband to pay for everything still
>>537248410in canada carseats and strollers 'expire' to prevent this economic terrorism
>>537243172This is precisely why people need to recognise that unless they generate their own water/food they are POOR, and why murricans/canadians with access to the vast outdoors aka natural resources they can, if necessary, poach, are in a better position to tell the money system to go fuck itself. Kids need at the bare minimum, food, and food doesnt come from concrete but nature
>>537247559>Travel system>Gray man>Vehicular exit and entrancing by the individual>Patented outdoor modular research tactical sunhat
Ain't nobody but rich niggas sending over a band for a stroller. If that were the case my old buisness model wouldn't be feasible.
>>537248555Checked. And in that case you have my sympathies then. I pray that one day you lads will be able to retake your country from this clown world horse shit.
>>537248555Canadians should use the raw milk bypass tactic, construct multi-generational lasting wooden pushchairs "for pets"
One of the reasons it's so expensive to have children are women. They will demand you buy the premium stroller instead of buying one used which is 99% as good. Women are the biggest consoomers, they think that buying an expensive stroller is taking care of her child and she would be a bad mother if she doesn't buy the premium one
>>537248728Car seats"expire" in the US as well retard lol
Yeah, I expect the only thing standing between nu-/pol/ and reproduction is a $1200 name brand high performance baby stroller.
>>537234230The bougie car seats are worth it if you've got the money desu.Never used this model though, we wanted ours to walk around everywhere as much as possible, when she became able, even if it slows us down
>>537248931That's a negligible cost if the kid turns out to be a goddamn Radio.
>>537234230Thats weird. My baby buggy was free. My sister gave it to me.
>>537247177What are your thoughts on jews?
>>537234230You don't need a stroller. Carry your kid. They love it. Sitting in the crook of your arm, sleeping on your shoulder, they are happy.
>>537248887I've never once heard of that. Must be a state by state thing.
>>537250070I was a stroller yoga instructor for a number of years in the 2000s.
Being poor has never historically prevented anyone from having kids. Women's rights prevent people having kids.
>>537250760>Being poor has never historically prevented anyone from having kids.No one wants to be a poor af BSB.
