No old testament. No genesis, Moses, David, Noah or any other Hebrew nonsense. And Jesus wasn't prophesied, wasn't a virgin birth, didn't perform miracles and didn't resurrect.He was just a dude who said nice things and got killed. No son of God who was actually God so became his own ancestor like Fry in Futurama.When you have the IQ to write the Declaration of Independence, you don't need to listen to Jewish bullshit.
Kys kike
>>537234489>Kys kikeJesus is a jew, his mother was descended from King David.
>>537234443only 1% of the bible is real. The rest of jewish lying.
>>537234443He just left the white parts in kekGood man. Based.
>>537234443Based actually. Too bad kikes own your goylem cunt now
>>537234443GLOW NIGGER FICTIONIS GAY AND FAKE.WHAT A USELESS POST.FUCK YOU FAGGOT.BURN IN HELL.
none of the bible of jewish though? the entire bible predates judaism
>>537234443>When you have the IQ to write the Declaration of Independence, you don't need to listen to Jewish bullshit.basedReligion is like Socialism. It's about "control"
>>537234443Reminder that Israel won't survive the next 3 years.>If Edom says, “We are shattered but we will rebuild the ruins,” the LORD of hosts says, “They may build, but I will tear down, and they will be called ‘the wicked country,’ and ‘the people with whom the LORD is angry forever.’”
>>537234443When Lincoln was a young lawer he showed his older partner in his law firm a pamphlet he had written showing the Bible was total bullshit. His partner took the pamphlet, looked at it then threw it into the fire in the office Franklin stove. And he said to Lincoln; "if you ever want to have a political career in America you must never ever write anything like this ever again".
>>537234443Christians be like: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST TELL ME THAT I NEED TO ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING TO IMPROVE MYSELF NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I'M SAVED BY GRACE
>>537234557So from a rapist?
>>537234489You're a fucking kike for worshipping one. Slit your wrists, you parasite. I bet your daughter is banging a nigger just because he's a christkike too.
>>537234557
>>537234443Idgaf what amerishits think
>>537234443Using the same logic, you must also endorse and support the subjugation and slavery and rape of African-Americans.
He was just your average Freemason desu senpai, although your post is misleading you should actually read the Jefferson Bible before making claims as to its contents.
>>537234777>the subjugation and slavery and rape of African-Americans.I'm sure they'll more than willing to do all that to each other without any assistance from us whites.
>>537234696Abraham Lincoln was a marxist faggot scumbag, so it shouldn't surprise anyone that he was a cringe atheist proto-redditfag too.
>>537234862>Abraham Lincoln was a marxist faggot scumbag, so it shouldn't surprise anyone that he was a cringe atheist proto-redditfag too.He was going to send all the niggers back to Africa if he hadn't been shot by JW Booth.
>He was just a dude who said nice things and got killedJesus never actually existed>>537234792He wasn't a freemason
>>537234489>NOOOOOO YOU CANT HECKIN NOT READ THE SCOFIELD.BIBLE
>>537234443>He was just a dude who said nice things and got killedMark 14:51-52Jesus was arrested in a public park at 4am with a naked boy he called a cup (14:36) in the pederast tradition of the Heraclean mystery. He was executed by the Romans because they recognized him as a human trafficker, a lestes, and he was crucified with two other lestai just like the lestai who had tried to ransom Caesar before he had them crucified. All Abrahamics cults are the result of ancient Epsteins wrecking nations and creating fake histories to justify why their child fucking elites deserve to rule the ruins.
>>537234489This guy loves the filler episodes of dbz
He cut out everything other than the teachings of Christ.I don't see the problem
>>537234946jesus existed the problem is everyone forgot he was a pimp and in antiquity there was no age gate for slavery.
>>537234443Thomas Jefferson also owned a Quran which he presumably bought in order to learn about islamic jurisprudence. Perhaps he embraced islam in private, we may never know.
>>537234443Yahweh is Satan. Thomas Jefferson was a Gnostic, he figured out the mystery of the Bible intuitively.
>>537234443Okay so what is your point? Jefferson distilled the Bible down, so what? Why is that so meaningful you needed to make this thread again?
Yeah the founders were homosexual freemasonsNews at 11
>>537235047there's no credible source confirming his existence.
>>537235142the vast majority of founders were christians and only a small minority were free masons. Faggotry was illegal. Look at how treacherous the christcuck is, demonizing his own nation's founders like that.
>>537234443Holy based, this is exactly the kind of thing I would do
>>537235197Ah so… quick check:Would a source that does confirm his existence automatically be non-credible to you?
>>537234443Holy based.I knew he was my favorite for a reason.
>>537234489I think it’s a jeet, but maybe paid by a kike. Call him Schlomo Ranjeet.I used to think it was an exaggeration too. But it really is every single time. You won't find a communist revolution without Jews behind it. You won't find an attack on Christianity without Jews behind it. You won't find an organization promoting sexual degeneracy if there aren't Jews involved. Some other races are a pain in the ass, like Indians and Africans. And every race gets into fights with others at times. But Jews are the only race that constantly, relentlessly tries to subvert others. They're the only race that makes infiltration and subversion their primary goal.http://fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/health/morality_ethics_values/news.php?q=1380145408www.independent.co.uk/news/world/israel-safe-haven-paedophiles-jerusalem-sex-abuse-jewish-community-watch-a7445246.htmlhttps://archive.vn/OqCTHhttps://christiansfortruth.com/israeli-court-rules-jew-convicted-of-running-international-child-porn-ring-safe-to-practice-as-pediatrician/https://archive.vn/alcjDhttps://youtu.be/Cki0RVX841I "Rabbi says pedophile rape is not to be reported according to jewish law" https://youtu.be/WlINbptS4_g WARNING: "100% Proof the Jewish Talmud Approves Pedophilia - Doctrines of Devil"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shomrim_(neighborhood_watch_group)https://archive.vn/JFgbPBrooklyn Shomrim organisers have been accused of withholding information on suspected child molesters and other Jewish criminals, in keeping with an interpretation of the Torah prohibition against mesirah (informing on a fellow Jew to the non-Jewish authorities).https://archive.vn/fQfM4"The Child-Rape Assembly Line""Rabbi Nuchem Rosenberg—who is 63 with a long, graying beard—recently sat down with me to explain what he described as a "child-rape assembly line" among sects
>>537234557There is not a single verse in the entire Bible that specifically calls the Jews or the Tribe of Judah God’s chosen people. This misconception comes from the fact that the Jews of today have declared themselves to be Israel and not the house of Judah, as the Scriptures rightfully call them.https://web.archive.org/web/20220526080336/https://gottmituns.com/what-is-a-jew/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT_RUdBTlp4The Palestinians are the True Semites.The jews in iran are the real jews.You fake jews are Asiatic Mongoloids with no connection to the Middle East in your ancestry.Thats why you hate the Palestinians and the Iranians.The first two Pisrael Prime Ministers admitted that the Palestinians were the original Hebrews that were forced to convert to Islam.>You are an anti-semitic rat. The Universe has made you Khazar/Ashkenazis the joke that keeps on giving.
>>537235272No. Any first hand, non-religious, account of Jesus, or even a second hand account from within his lifetime would work. Just a "I heard of this crazy whacky jewish rabbi who angered the jewish leaders and got killed", that's all it would take.
>>537234443They were deists, they weren't christians.
>>537234681Judaism and the Jewish Talmud (700 AD) is Canaanite and Babylonian child burning religious doctrine. It’s exactly the opposite of the Christian doctrine. .4000 years ago, God commanded the Israelites to genocide the Canaanites because of their Moloch worshipping child sacrifice religion. He didn’t want it infecting the Israelites. They didn’t do that and now we have Judaism and child raping Moloch worshippers.If they’d burn their own children alive to gain the blessing of Moloch, what would they not do? Do they have any moral guide rails?What is missing from their human instinct that would allow them to burn their own child alive? What would you do to stop your child being burned alive? This gives more detail. It’s pure evil. There is a genetic basis for that evil behavior. There is actually something genetically defective in those races that practiced child sacrifice. Perhaps that’s why God commanded a full genocide of the Canaanites, to eradicate the genetic basis for the evil. https://biblereadingarcheology.com/2016/05/13/did-the-canaanites-sacrifice-their-children
>>537234443so he wanted to be a white christian so bad that he had to change the text...that made him want to be a white christian in the first place. kek sounds similar to muslim logic, but ok
>>537234443Yah you only really need the gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John) to follow the teachings of Christ and be a Christian
>>537234909Idk why people keep saying this, no he wasnt lol
>>537234681The country that calls itself Israel is really Edomite and Canaanite. >If Edom says, “We are shattered but we will rebuild the ruins,” the LORD of hosts says, “They may build, but I will tear down, and they will be called ‘the wicked country,’ and ‘the people with whom the LORD is angry forever.’”
>>537235503Lincoln wanted to send the blacks to Africa, but the Radical Republicans might have started another civil war to stop him.
>>537234443>No son of God who was actually God so became his own ancestorHave you guys seen Predestination? It's about a time traveling hermaphrodite who gets a sex change and impregnates himself and gives birth to himself while trying to track down and kill a future version of himself who becomes a time traveling terrorist.
>>537234443out of your faggot traitor founding fathers, jefferson and franklin were pretty cool. apart from franklin being a tranny an all, i think he was just into the dresses an shit. why the fuck did they let washington be president though? the guy was an absolute golem retard.
>>537235503Liberia, nigger.
>>537235897Lincoln was Hobbesian in his overarching compulsion for the state to control violence. He was in with the big land barons of his day, and if he'd been in with the land barons then he'd be in with the lumber barons and the coal barons and the rail barons and so on. He retired a very wealthy man with 56000 acres of rich farmland.
>>537235994No Lincoln, Washington. duoh..
>>537234443poor guythe retards then were probably even worse than nowhe couldnt just reinventhe still had to quotelest he be accused of blasphemy
>>537234728Yes. Hes also the descendant of a race mixer, a scammer, and a drunk.
>>537235371That rules out the gospel of John and leaves you with three to choose from.
He would have thought>900 genders>men can get pregnantIs bullshit too.
>>537236103the gospels are religious fairytales, not first hand accounts of actual events.
>>537235197>there's no credible source confirming his existence.Tacitus you fucking retard. And 99.99% of historians believe He existed. Only retard grifters like Carrier say otherwise.
>>537236205So is the Talmud; see how stupid you sound?
>>537236264>Tacitus you fucking retard>wrote decades after the fact>just repeated the fairy tales Christians already believed inlmao>99.99% of historians believe He existedNo one actually looks into it. Anyone that does admits there's no real evidence. >>537236289Uh yeah the Talmud is also full of nonsensical fairytale jewish ravings. What's your point? You don't think a rabbi actually summoned Jesus from hell and Jesus then says he's living in boiling poop forever do you?
>>537236372>wrote decades after the factSo what? He had access to the Roman archives.>just repeated the fairy tales Christians already believed inHe badmouthed Christians when he wrote about them. Why would he "repeat their fairy tales"?>No one actually looks into it. Anyone that does admits there's no real evidence. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHANO ONE LOOKS INTO THE MOST FAMOUS MAN IN HISTORY!
Damn, even Jefferson knew Christ didn't die on the cross. Based.
>>537236433>He had access to the Roman archives.And makes no mention of the life of Jesus just his alleged death, a common superstition of Christians at the time. How curious. Also curious how he refers to Pilate as a "procurator, incorrectly, he was a prefect, as if he was just getting the information from some Christian cultist who didn't know what they were talking about. >He badmouthed Christians when he wrote about themBut he'd only know about the christians lore and beliefs from actual christians, they were too obscure for most other people to know about. Just a few years prior Pliny, a wealthy Roman governor with access to his own personal library full or works on the history of Rome and the empire had no idea what a Christian was. >NO ONE LOOKS INTO THE MOST FAMOUS MAN IN HISTORY!They just thoughtlessly assume he must be real, like you're doing right now.
>>537236372>Uh yeah the Talmud is also full of nonsensical fairytale jewish ravings.Call Abraham faggot filth, and I'll know you're not yanking my chain.
>>537236765Abraham is faggot filth who, in the original genesis story actually killed Isaac and sacrificed him to Yahweh. What else?
>>537236740>And makes no mention of the life of Jesus just his alleged death,Why would the Roman archives have the "life of Jesus". Romans kept records of who they executed. Tacitus hated Christians, he would have said "These dumb dumbs are worshipping a guy that they claim we killed but have no records of".> Pilate as a "procurator, incorrectly, he was a prefect,The terms were used interchangeably. Tacitus used the term more common in his time.>But he'd only know about the christians lore and beliefs from actual christiansIrrelevant. He badmouthed them and called Christianity a "superstition". Why would he trust them on said superstition.>They just thoughtlessly assume he must be real, like you're doing right now.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. So historians (and tons of leftists and kikes on college campuses) just "thoughtlessly assume" He existed, while at the same time they hate everything about Christianity? Listen to yourself, retard. There's a reason why "Jesus didn't exist" isn't taught in a single college or university on the entire planet.
>>537234443Jefferson would be a blue haired leftist if he lived now. Practically all of the Framers would
In every psych ward there are dozens of raving insane “Jesus” inmates. Jesus was just another “Jesus” except he pulled it off because the levant is full of religious lunatics and they were buttmad about the Romans.
>>537236881No no, don't add on lies. Just call him the progenitor of disease called Syphilis.
>>537236960> Romans kept records of who they executed.And Tacitus never refers to those records. >The terms were used interchangeably. yeah bullshit, somehow both Tacitus and Josephus got his title incorrect, as if they were getting all their info from crazed cultists with no idea what was going on. > Why would he trust them on said superstition.Because he's just repeating what he's heard. There's no reason to think he had any more knowledge than what a Christian told him. And no he makes no reference to any archives you're making that up. > So historians (and tons of leftists and kikes on college campuses) just "thoughtlessly assume" Pretty much. Almost every leftoid just says Jesus was a hippie communist and leaves it at that, not even bothering to look into it deeper. >>537237099It's not a lie, it's the actual original version of the story. And syphilis comes from the new world, how could a semite start that?
>>537237157Thankfully for you it's not, my fellow Hebraich friend.
>>537234443So the jews wrote a book about how stupid and evil they were? One where they declared their way of life unrighteous and made themselves the bad guy? Yeah, that sounds right.
>>537237157>And Tacitus never refers to those records.He had ACCESS to them as a Senator. As I said, he would have been in the archives and if he saw no record of Jesus he would have rubbed it in the Christians faces.>yeah bullshit, somehow both Tacitus and Josephus got his title incorrect, as if they were getting all their info from crazed cultists with no idea what was going on. You are so fucking retarded. During the reign of the Emperor Claudius (41–54 CE), the official titles for equestrian governors were transitioned from prefect to procurator. Here is a list of 7 Prefects of Judea before 44 AD and 6 of the 7 Josephus calls procurators.Coponious 6-9M.Ambibulus 9-12Annius Rufua 12-15Valerius Gratus 15-26Pontius Pilate 26-36Marcellus 36-37Marullus 37-41>Because he's just repeating what he's heard.AGAIN, why would repeat from people that he DOESN'T LIKE?>And no he makes no reference to any archives you're making that up. "Tacitus wrote his historical works (the Annals and Histories) between AD 109 and 116 using Roman archives. As an elite senator and former consul, he had direct access to official state records, including the Acta Senatus (Senate archives) and the Acta Diurna (the Roman Empire's official daily gazette">Pretty much. Almost every leftoid just says Jesus was a hippie communist and leaves it at that, not even bothering to look into it deeper. HAHAHAHAHAHA. So they want to debunk and destroy all things Christianity...but not Jesus. You are so fucking retarded.This is what Richard Carrier is doing now. A podcast with 1,000 followers.
>>537235244You mean the majority of the founders larped as Christians
>>537234775if that was true, then you wouldn't be here
>>537234443Wait there are actual adult people who dont think religion is made up shit?!?HEY IDIOTS THESE ARE HARRY POTTER STORIES FROM THE PAST FROM A FUCKING DESERT LMAOIn a couple of thousand years a bunch of retards will dig up twilight and go complete dark souls lore grifter retard mode and make up shit in their heads about all of it and tadaa new religion.You are those retards TODAY LMAO
>>537237505>Wait there are actual adult people who dont think religion is made up shit?!?Atheists believe in>900 genders>men can get pregnant>take 40 vax shots for a non-lethal flu
>>537237505I have family members that will spend hours of EACH DAY acting like schizos mumbling in their room out of devotion.
>>537237505I'm a genius with a God's given talent. I'm not a retard midwit like you.
he was also a freemason so checks out kek
>>537237528Do you really think that?Do you really think that everyone who doesn't believe in this schizo shit think there are a trillion genders? Or that life should have no morality?Nobody is saying "there is nothing more to existence" or "nothing happens when we die". They're just saying that your insane books are retarded as shit, kek.Dude, the Cath Church is the largest funder of immigration on the PLANET by magnitudes you couldn't imagine. What the fuck? You guys don't even care about this reality.
>>537237528i dont believe in any of the shit you claim and also in no religion because i am not a fucking childyou do realize every adult thinks you are all retarded right? I mean you do get that? We basically see on the same level as a child believing in santa, but alt least the child has a excuse.
>>537237505do you at the same time deny god?i deny the bible, the koran, the talmud, all that shitbut not god
>>537237505you know there are people that go from atheism to Christianity again, ask yourself why.
>>537237598Edomites seething. You hate God. You will never rule the world.
>>537237583This
>>537237626My journey is the opposite, except I'm not a true atheist. I just don't pretend to think all the answers are in jewish desert tales simplified for actual retards.
>>537237598this is a superhuman feateither>god>ayys>both/same thing?too crazy a trajectory to be pure coincidence
>>537237286>He had ACCESS to them as a Senatoryet made no direct reference to them on the issue of Jesus. >governors were transitioned from prefect to procuratorWhich means they would know the correct title from before the transition yet didn't use it. >why would repeat from people that he DOESN'T LIKE?There's no other source of info about them. Why else did a governor a few years prior not know what they were?>"Tacitus wrote his historical works (the Annals and Histories) between AD 109 and 116 using Roman archives.Unless there's a direct reference you can't just assume everything come straight from the archive. Even in ancient times they generally knew how references worked. "X author/work says Y" doesn't exist in that passage about jesus. He cites no one. >So they want to debunk and destroy all things ChristianityLeftoids like the gay "let your enemy defeat you/turn the other cheek" parts so keep them and associate that with the mythical "historical" communist Jesus.
>>537237598>>537237672least wrong religion i have found so far(short of formulating my own)
>>537237598>i dont believe in any of the shit you claimSure thing. I'm sure the atheists in Austria are sooooo different than America>atheists (in America) #1 group to support trans shit according to Pew research>atheists voted for Kamala, the most pro troon candidate ever at rate of 72%>atheists #1 group to trust the covid vax and took it as a rate of 90%'Oh boy>e basically see on the same level as a child believing in santaYou are clearly a 13 year old if that is your attack.
>>537237666and this
>>537237598>retardsYou do realize that there have been literally billions of scholars smarter than you will ever dream of being that were all christians rightSchools like Harvard were created by Christians to study God
>>537235429Based oldafg
>>537237666because you were never a christian, you just followed a tradition, you never experienced the born again process
>>537237625also, once you realize there is a god, some people might believe god, and then believe the biblecant really blame the believers for being dumbthe journeys you encounter to make you believe...if an atheist is allowed to be, its because he is
>>537237157Go back to plebbit niggerJesus your spacing is like fuckkng aids
>>537237825kek
>>537237677>yet made no direct reference to them on the issue of Jesus.So you want him to reference the archives and other sources every fucking time? Fucking retard. History flat out says he consulted the archives. He would have torn Christians a new one if Jesus wasn't in the archives.>Which means they would know the correct title from before the transition yet didn't use it. So both Josephus and Tacitus got it wrong? Or, .like historians believe, the terms weren't that important because they overlapped. Originally, prefects were military leaders in charge of troops and volatile provinces, while procurators were civilian financial administrators. Over time, their roles blurred and officials often held both titles. You are legit retarded and thank God no historian agrees with you.>There's no other source of info about them.Irrelevant. When it comes to Jesus he checked the archives. He wouldn't have put info from people he disliked and distrusted in his history opus.>Unless there's a direct reference you can't just assume everything come straight from the archive.The archives were destroyed in the fires centuries later. But again, historians agree with me and if Jesus wasin't in the archives Tacitus would have called out Christians on this fact.>Leftoids like the gay "let your enemy defeat you/turn the other cheek" parts so keep them and associate that with the mythical "historical" communist Jesus.Sure thing retard. Again, there isn't a single college in the world that teaches Jesus didn't exist.Stop reading Carrier. He's retarded and so are you.
>>537237677>let your enemy defeat you/turn the other cheekwomp womp, someone failed history class and doesnt understand Roman Law.tsk tsk and that image you borrowed from the leftypol faggot discord team?way to discredit yourselfkeep sucking the ADLs cock faggot
>>537236019>He was in with the big land barons of his day,he was in with the big kikes too.>He retired a very wealthy man with 56000 acres of rich farmland.yeah the kikes pay their goodest golems very well.
>>537237825that's literally how old 4chan used to space everything>>537237868>So you want him to reference the archives and other sources every fucking timeThat's how proper modern history works, but I don't expect it from ancient authors. Still if they don't cite a source, you can't just assume they have one. The fact it's word for word what the gospels say makes it obvious where he actually got it from. > When it comes to Jesus he checked the archivesno evidence> historians agree with me most historians are full of shit which is why until a few decades ago 99.99% of them thought Moses and Abraham were real too. >isn't a single college in the world that teaches Jesus didn't exist.Because they prefer commie Jesus to the truth. >>537237915>keep sucking the ADLs cockYou who pretend to oppose the jews, why do you worship their "king"?
>>537238046>You who pretend to oppose the jews, why do you worship their "king"?I fucking wish He was their king!
>>537238046>That's how proper modern history works, bYes MODERN. Fucking retard.>s. Still if they don't cite a source, you can't just assume they have one. Uh, historians knows he went to the archives. Put 2 and 2 together, retard.>The fact it's word for word what the gospels say makes it obvious where he actually got it from. We are talking about the existence of Jesus, the Man. Tacitus would have loved nothing more than to rip Christians for worshipping a guy that didn't exist.>most historians are full of shit which is why until a few decades ago 99.99% of them thought Moses and Abraham were real too. So you are saying that these historians got NEW EVIDENCE and changed course on the existence of Moses and Abraham? But they are just ignoring all this NEW EVIDENCE on Jesus not existing....because....?>Because they prefer commie Jesus to the truth. Listen to yourself.
>>537238046>doubles down on his historical illiteracyyeah, Galileans arent kikes ADL cum guzzler, you fell for a psyop like the politically correct mainstream banana boy you always have been
>>537234443>his bible omits the events of fire raining down on sodom and gomorrah and the ark>hecking science proves both happenedyeah cool bible buddy
>>537234557jesus nor david were jews, judeans, or phariseeslol
>>537237749Fuck off faggot none of this is real, it's just a levantine sect
>>537234443what did Jesus say that was so groundbreaking that it deserves a secular book of teachings?
>>537238474Literally everything. You have no idea how much seemingly "basic" and "obvious" morality is something Jesus had to teach you people.
>>537237825Jesus indeed
And you people claim America was founded on christian values lmao
>>537234443Yeah? Is this new to you? Why do you think there was clear separation of church and state? Jefferson was Deist (He believed there was a God or something like a God but religion was straight up bullshit).
>>537238439>not realok but is it because of science? the science that sold you a cancerous vax? Science is just based on evidence, it can't prove many things, it's a series of tests
>>537238263>science proves both happenedThis is no different from saying science proves the earth is flat, that's how batshit it is to think those fictional stories are supported by any evidence>>537238513Everything attributed to Jesus on greed is taken directly from the Hippocratic corpus. There's nothing revolutionary in the bible, it's a shitty version of the Hellenistic milieu filtered through the mouth of a pederast drug abuser.
>>537238153>h, historians knows he went to the archives.No they don't. In fact not even Bart Ehrman, the biggest "Jesus exists" shill in academia says there's 100% proof he used the archives instead of getting Christian hearsay. >. Tacitus would have loved nothing more than to rip Christians for worshipping a guy that didn't exist.Tacitus has no idea one way or the other, Jesus and his cult being so unknown and obscure. >So you are saying that these historians got NEW EVIDENCEIt wasn't so much new evidence as it was the complete lack of any evidence of their existence for 1000 or so years. >>537238237> Galileans arent kikes ADL cum guzzler,Oh boy here comes that cope again. Galileans had the same religion as jews, jews had conquered and converted them over a century prior.
>>537238626Why must you kikes be so terrified of actually talking about Him you have to make up shit and gaslight people? It's disingenuous faggotry
>>537234443Yeah because the bible is man made mental illness and jesus never existed. That’s a fact.
>>537238659>n fact not even Bart Ehrman, the biggest "Jesus exists" shill in academia says there's 100% proof he used the archives instead of getting Christian hearsay.So he says there's 100% proof he USED the archives. I assume you mean there isn't 100% proof that he used the archives. Of course there isn't 100% proof. But the evidence is overwhelming "Guy writes history book and said guy had access to archives." Why wouldn't he use them?>Tacitus has no idea one way or the other, Jesus and his cult being so unknown and obscure. They were so obscure that Tacitus wrote about them....>It wasn't so much new evidence as it was the complete lack of any evidence of their existence for 1000 or so years. I think Jesus falls into this category as well. So you trust historians when they say Abraham and Moses didn't exist, but you don't trust those same historians when they say Jesus existed? Fucking WEIRD
>>537238749>jesus never existed.99.99% of historians disagree. Of course you will agree with those same historians when they say things like "Abraham and Moses didn't exist".
>>537237583>You guys don't even care about this reality.They're functional nihilists, this life is just a stepping stone to paradise, why give a shit about anything when they're destined to spend eternity in heaven. Nietzsche knew this and they branded HIM as a nihilist for it.
>>537237583See >>537237702
>>537238659>makes up history out of his ass in a triple banana self insertionlol lookat this illiterate kike defend ADL talking points like a politically correct r/atheism fagI kek
>>537235244Most Freemasons are Christian illiterate chimp
>>537238839LMAO at this kike cock knobbler
>>537238839You should try drug if you want to see paradise, and hell.
>>537238749>jesus never existed. That’s a fact.It's the opposite, there were dozens of jesuses. A plague of jesuses, mentally ill pedophiles trained in all sorts of bronze age drug and magic craft. That's how you end up with a character getting into a duel with a dude named Simon MAGUS.
>>537235142Tomorrow you'll say America was founded on Christian values. What it really means though is Christians were anti-American all along. You're like crypto-jews. And you specifically are a spam bot that won't reply in any meaningful way.
>>537238153Jesus references Moses as real disproving his omniscience. Kill yourself
>>537238959Heroin, Cocaine, Methamphetamine. All these drug can make you see Heaven, and Hell.
>>537238786>So he says there's 100% proof he USED the archives.Yeah I meant Ehrman says there isn't 100% proof Tacitus used the archives, in fact I got it wrong, Ehrman outright states Tacitus got it from hearsay, not the archives. > obscure that Tacitus wrote about themThey got one paragraph of acknowledgement in his works, that's the sign of an obscure sect. > So you trust historians when they say Abraham and Moses didn't exist,They spent thirty-forty years kicking ands screaming and claiming there must have been some real figures Abraham and Moses were based on, until ultimately giving up. Who's to say they aren't doing the same thing right now with Jesus?>>537238857>makes up history The Hasmoneans are directly from the Bible, Philo, Flavius Josephus, all the ancient sources that are supposedly good enough when it comes to Jesus (except Philo who strangely doesn't mention him despite mentioning every other whacky jewish cultist)
>>537234598Could you write any more fucking brown
>>537234443Wrong, his book which he never published was just a reader and contained passages in which Jesus claimed to be God. You spammed this last night too. Leave.
>>537239019>Jesus references Moses as real disproving his omniscience.Irrelevant to the conversation, retard. And Jesus wasn't reminiscent when He was a human on Earth you retarded faggot.
>>537234443I read it and Jesus performs over dozen miracles. He heals people in like half the chapters or something.
>>537239053You can still find the bones of children massacred by King Herod, and the bones of all 12 apostles.
>>537239053>he is now claiming the bible as his sourcelol we have come full circle with your tryhard redditisms
>>537234443jesus's moral teachings were mostly gay communism.let evil win. give charity money to 3rd worlders.some good stuff and some common sense stuff too i guess.
>>537239053>Yeah I meant Ehrman says there isn't 100% proof Tacitus used the archives, in fact I got it wrong, Ehrman outright states Tacitus got it from hearsay, not the archives.So you are with Ehrman on this point, but you aren't with him on the "Jesus exists" point. It is well known that Tacitus used the archives when writing his books. Yours and Ehrman's argument is "uh, he used it for other things, but not for Nero" YES, Tacitus wasn't writing about JESUS he was writing about NERO and his violent attacks on the populace. Jesus was just mentioned in there. This is the kind of thing the Roman archives would have stored.>They got one paragraph of acknowledgement in his works, that's the sign of an obscure sect. The fact that they were mentioned at all means they aren't obscure.>. Who's to say they aren't doing the same thing right now with Jesus?IT WILL HAPPEN SOON I S-SWEAR! Listen to yourself.
>>537234966>political teacher arrested on false charges for trumped up 'corrupting the youth' charges, unusually sentenced to death for the crime of being near a child in public, no actual evidence of pedophilia, becomes martyr and his students build a temple in his honorMate Jesus isnt even the first major greco-roman historical figure that this happens to. You want to blame socrates/plato/aristotle too? what exactly isnt a child fucker cult to you?
>>537238899nice thumbnail, retard. Nietzsche admired their survivalist nature and determination. Can you argue against that? Now if you look up what he thought about them ideologically, well>The Jews are the very opposite of décadents: they have simply been forced into appearing in that guise, and with a degree of skill approaching the non plus ultra of histrionic genius they have managed to put themselves at the head of all décadent movements (– for example, the Christianity of Paul–), and so make of them something stronger than any party frankly saying Yes to life.>To the sort of men who reach out for power under Judaism and Christianity,–that is to say, to the priestly class–décadence is no more than a means to an end. Men of this sort have a vital interest in making mankind sick, and in confusing the values of ”good” and ”bad,” ”true” and ”false” in a manner that is not only dangerous to life, but also slanders it.He fucking knew and tried to warn us and here you are still doubting the obvious, clinging to a jewish religion that drove our societies to sucide
>>537239226But they weren't false charges
>>537234443>you don't need to listen to Jewish bullshit"The Bible without Christ" is *LITERALLY* the quintessence of Jewish bullshit, you moron.
>>537239306It's a historical happening with archeologival evidence to back it up.
>>537239286Well yeah in both cases it is clear that the 'corrupted' students in question did in fact have enough righteous love in their hearts to carry the memory of the slain to outlast the memory of the government system that killed them.
>>537234443Jefferson was wrong: 100% of the Bible is bullshit
>>537239348Always bearing false witness.
>>537239324>archeologival evidence to back it upPeak retardation
>>537239107find the bones of children massacred by King Herod, You absolutely cannot find those, you can't even find the stories of him massacring babies in 3/4 the gospels. Isn't it strange 3/4 gospels would omit such an important event? It's a clear allusion to Pharoh killing all the first born Israelite slaves, which is also just a fairy tale>and the bones of all 12 apostles.medieval forgeries>>537239123they're also referenced in extrabiblical sources>>537239206>So you are with Ehrman on this point, but you aren't with him on the "Jesus exists" pointHe's the biggest "Jesus existed" shill in academia and even he admits Tacitus didn't use the archives for his claims about Jesus/christianity. > they aren't obscure.A non-obscure sect would get a lot more mentions than one paragraph.>IT WILL HAPPEN SOON I S-SWEAR! Listen to yourself.If it was 1976 instead of 2026 you'd be saying the exact same thing about Moses right now.
>>537239324>It's a historical happening with archeologival evidence to back it up.By that retarded logic, Spiderman's adventures really happened because New York is a real place.
>>537239261>b-b-but he was motorboating kike ballsacks for a g-g-good re-reason!
>>537239420Like it or not. There is no God more powerful than teh christian God. And I will always be the number 1 chess champion of /pol/, because I am the chosen ONE of God Almighty>I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
>>537234443basically made his own copy of the gospel of thomas (kek). but wasn't jefferson a christian deist? so idk, i think he was close but missed the mark as a supremely intelligent autist. maybe he got there by old age, but most christians don't understand why christ is divine. his soul rose to an untouchable density, effectively becoming an ominipotent guardian over mankind. Jesus was incredibly special, his soul had to have descended from somewhere pure to have had the power and potency it had in its short time on Earth. And his effect on all things evil is a testament of it.
>>537234443>Freemason says
>>537239405>He's the biggest "Jesus existed" shill in academia and even he admits Tacitus didn't use the archives for his claims about Jesus/christianity.Again, why are you trusting his completely on one point but not another?>A non-obscure sect would get a lot more mentions than one paragraph.Or you know, they wouldn't get mentioned at all. I would imagine there were many small religious groups/cults that didn't get mentioned by Tacitus.>If it was 1976 instead of 2026 you'd be saying the exact same thing about Moses right now.So you think in 50 years all historians will think Jesus didn't exists? Good luck with that. Carrier (the main Jesus myth guy) gets more and more irrelevant everyday. He has resorted to doing podcasts with under 1000 followers.
>>537236264>And 99.99% of historians believe>believebelieving is for fools aka christcucks
>>537239669You cannot even beat me in chess, and you think you are not a fool because?>The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
>zero old testamentbased
>>537239669>believing is for fools aka christcucksBut atheists believe in the things I mentioned.
>>537239545>e you trusting his completely on one point but not another?I'm only pointing out that it's so apparent Tacitus isn't using the archives in reference to Christian information he relays, that even the top pro-Jesus existence scholar in the world says he's not using the archives but is repeating hearsay. So to say it's ridiculous anyone else thinks the same way seems disingenuous. >they wouldn't get mentioned at all. an obscure cult can still make "the news" and be recorded like Heavens Gate or the Ranjeesh movement, but how much would you even know about those without the internet today to research them? Probably not much. And look at Scientology. We basically know nothing about the inner working of it except from followers and people who deconverted. >So you think in 50 years all historians will think Jesus didn't exists? Maybe it will take longer for Jesus since interrupting Christians and their jew worship can get you in trouble. >t. Carrier (the main Jesus myth guy) gets more and more irrelevant everydayYeah I don't care about that faggot, you're the one who keeps bringing him up.
>>537239487>antisemitic christian what a bizarre existence. Nigger YOU WORSHIP A KIKE
>>537239885atheists are retards as well
>>537240003King Herod, an edomite, murdered a lot of infants to kill Jesus Christ.>>If Edom says, “We are shattered but we will rebuild the ruins,” the LORD of hosts says, “They may build, but I will tear down, and they will be called ‘the wicked country,’ and ‘the people with whom the LORD is angry forever.’”
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>>537239989>I'm only pointing out that it's so apparent Tacitus isn't using the archives in reference to Christian information he relaysSo you are basing this on the beliefs of ONE GUY....but you reject this ONE GUY on his actual belief that Jesus existed? You sound insane. And again, Tacitus was writing about Nero, and the punishments Nero used would have been in the archives....and who he did those punishments on (Christians). That's how Jesus was mentioned, in passing.>that even the top pro-Jesus existence scholar in the world HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Ehrman? He is not the top pro-Jesus existence scholar (if such a thing were even a thing).>an obscure cult can still make "the news" and be recorded like Heavens Gate or the Ranjeesh movementYou are conflating today's media with 2000 year old media, retard. Rome was a melting pot mystery religions and secret sects that didn't get mentioned by Tacitus.>We basically know nothing about the inner working of it except from followers and people who deconverted. Irrelevant. We know that it exists.>Maybe it will take longer for Jesus since interrupting Christians and their jew worship can get you in trouble. HAHAHAHAHA. How will it get you in trouble? Did the historians that switched from "Moses and Abraham didn't exist" get in trouble? What punishment has Carrier gotten?>Yeah I don't care about that faggot, you're the one who keeps bringing him up.So you respect the opinion of the JESUS EXISTS GUY but you hate the #1 JESUS DOESN'T EXIST GUY?You are a legit schizo.
I dont pray to foreign gods desu
>>537238381If kikes only argument is Jews are evil, then are they arguing that goyim should genocide Jews?
>>537234443If that's true, he's wrong. Though, it's very common for antichristians to lie about the founding fathers
>>537234598>now
>>537240045thanks for the kike lore. Here have some Jesus outright professing his dedication to the people of Israel. Your own messiah regarded goyim as dogs. Christianity and cuckoldry, a love story for the ages.
>>537240257>So you are basing this on the beliefs of ONE GUY...He represents the general academic consensus in modern theology schools among the liberal secularists it's not just him, this is their general conception of the evidence for Jesus. >you reject this ONE GUY on his actual belief that Jesus existed?Yeah, because his basic argument is that while all the extra biblical accounts aren't trustworthy, the gospels and Paul's writings are trustworthy enough to establish a real Jesus. Is that your position too?>he punishments Nero used would have been in the archivesWhy would that matter? Jesus was (allegedly) executed under Tiberius. >He is not the top pro-Jesus existence scholarWho's bigger? Whenever there is a debate all anyone ever talks about is Ehrman. > Rome was a melting pot mystery religions and secret sects that didn't get mentioned by Tacitus.The fact there were slightly more obscure sects, doesn't preclude Christianity being obscure.> Did the historians that switched from "Moses and Abraham didn't exist" get in trouble?Yes, Thomas L Thompson got blackballed from academia for decades before getting his ideas accepted and had to work as a janitor, just like that guy who discovered continental drift and was laughed out of geology. I don't get what's so funny about that. > you hate the #1 JESUS DOESN'T EXIST GUY?Yeah I don't listen to leftoid cucks. >You are a legit schizo.Yeah if you don't agree with academic consensuses that are bullshit, you are a "schizo", way to exhibit independent thought.
>>537240603Israel was refer to Jacob. You are a bunch of edomites cunt who hate God Almighty with a passion.
unfortunately we are 2000 years into the jew worship devolution/dysgenics experiment, so what should be common knowledge is instead only found among the top 1% of intellectuals. thats how disastrous christianity has been.just think of where you have to be to worship a circumcised jewish rabbi as your creator.that sort of damage simply isnt fixable.
>>537240495just goes to show how truly evil jews are
>>537235371What are your thoughts on the Talmud recognizing Jesus’ existence?Surely if they were going to lie about him existing, they would have pretended he was good instead of saying he is boiling in excrement.
>>537240653Lots of words to said you are just a weakling, so you can't do shit.>I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
>>537240647learn english first before bitching you utter troglodyte
>>537234645if there was no judaism, then jesus wasnt the jewish messiah, and jews and christians have been wasting your time with a bunch of jewish nonsense.if there was a judaism, then jesus was manufactured to be the jewish messiah, and jews and christians have been wasting your time with a bunch of jewish nonsense.it really is that simple.
>>537240833Why should I? I like it when you anti-christ shitter like you hate me.
>>537240866>le epic trolland people call atheists reddit
>>537240606>He represents the general academic consensus in modern theology schools among the liberal secularists it's not just him, this is their general conception of the evidence for Jesus.The consensus is that "Jesus existed", but you reject that consensus because you say most historians are retards. But NOW you accept the consensus (which isn't a consensus, just Ehrman) >Yeah, because his basic argument is that while all the extra biblical accounts aren't trustworthy, the gospels and Paul's writings are trustworthy enough to establish a real Jesus. Is that your position too?I agree, but I admit bias. Tacitus is a non-religious source, I trust that more.>Why would that matter? Jesus was (allegedly) executed under Tiberius. Because Tacitus was searching for NERO in the archives and the Christians were involved, so Tacitus explained who Christians worshipped.>Who's bigger? Whenever there is a debate all anyone ever talks about is Ehrman. As I said, there isn't such a thing. Top historians don't even entertain the idea of Jesus not existing. Same way top scientists don't think about flat earthers.>The fact there were slightly more obscure sects, doesn't preclude Christianity being obscure.The sects that weren't mentioned are obscure. Christianity wasn't. By the time Tacitus wrote about Christianity it was well known enough for him to have an OPINION on it (he didn't like it).>Yes, Thomas L Thompson got blackballed from academia for decadesWhat?>dissertation in 1971 was rejected by Catholics>While teaching part-time at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, he was invited to finish his studies at Temple University in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, receiving his Ph.D. in Old Testament studies summa cum laude in 1976
>>537240917I'm not trolling. I see no point in fixing shit just to appease you cunts. You can die and go to Hell.
>>537240606>Yeah I don't listen to leftoid cucks. Sure thing, but you agree with them.>Yeah if you don't agree with academic consensuses that are bullshit, you are a "schizo", way to exhibit independent thought.You pick and choose your sources of info like a schizo.
>>537234443>cuts out talmumdic bullshit>focuses on the most important aka Jesus's teachingsBased
>>537240787>alpha and omegathats a good indication its bullshit right there, those are greek letters.it wouldve been more like:>i am the Aleph and the Tavbut that doesnt quite have the same ring to it, does it? because it sounds jewish as fuck, and its utterly repulsive.
>>537241044The Bible was written in greek. The book of revelation was written by John the Apostle in Greek.
>>537234615Hahaha copenseethe dilate christcuck fuck!Jewsus howls in boiling excrement and piss!
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>>537234443unironically this is what the West needs - Christ without Yahweh>>537234946also true
>>537240950> But NOW you accept the consensus (which isn't a consensus, just Ehrman)I'm not appealing to consensus, I just find it amusing even the biggest pro-Jesus shills like Ehrman don't think Tacitus was using any real sources. >. Tacitus is a non-religious source,writing 80 years after the fact, never once naming who he got his information from. >Tacitus explained who Christians worshipped.Funny how he never bothers citing who he read it from , in what book, etc. It reads like he's actually relaying hearsay, which is why people>Top historians don't even entertain the idea of Jesus not existingEhrman literally wrote a book on it, actually he might have written two. >The sects that weren't mentioned are obscure. Christianity wasn't. I was absolutely obscure which is why Pliny knows nothing of it only a few years prior. >, receiving his Ph.D. in Old Testament studies summa cum laude in 1976and then got fired for anti-semitism and didn't get a real job until the 90s. You left out that part for some reason. Certainly not you trying to craft a fake narrative. >>537240964>if you discern which info you find plausible and which you find implausible you are schizo
>>537241430>I'm not appealing to consensus, I just find it amusing even the biggest pro-Jesus shills like Ehrman don't think Tacitus was using any real sources.You can "find it amusing" all you want, doesn't mean it's true nor that he is an expert on the subject. You clearly trust Ehrman on this point, but not the point of Jesus existing. As I said, you're a schizo.>writing 80 years after the fact, never once naming who he got his information from. Ancient writers never gave their sources, retard. But again, he was historian that had access to archives. He used said archives for other areas of his writings. Could he have used them and come across Jesus? Highly likely.>Funny how he never bothers citing who he read it from , in what book, etc. It reads like he's actually relaying hearsay, which is why peopleThis info would have been in the archives....about NERO (who was Nero, what did he do? who did he punish? Christians. They worship a guy who was executed by Pilate). He certainly didn't get it from Christians that he hated.>Ehrman literally wrote a book on it, actually he might have written two. So what? I could write a book on it, doesn't make me a top expert.>I was absolutely obscure which is why Pliny knows nothing of it only a few years prior. Pliny the Younger wrote about Christians.>and then got fired for anti-semitism and didn't get a real job until the 90s.?" he was awarded a guest professorship at the École Biblique in Jerusalem in 1984. ">Certainly not you trying to craft a fake narrative.I barely know about this guy. You said he didn't work for decades, which was false.>>if you discern which info you find plausible and which you find implausible you are schizoYOU: EHRMAN BELIEVES IN JESUS, I DON'T TRUST THAT....BUT HE BELIEVES IN THIS CERTAIN BIT OF INFO AND I TRUST THAT SO HE IS A GOLD STANDARDSchizo.
>>537241124yes, why greek? the characters wouldnt have spoken greek. aramaic maybe, hebrew phoenician possibly. so why write in greek? for greeks? nope. for the romans, whose elites considered greek the more educated tongue to their own.jews wrote for the roman elites, not to the grassroots plebs.christianity was all about convincing 1 man to shoehorn jew worship over everybody. thats how so many countries became "christianized', by the weakness of one man.
>>537241670> You clearly trust Ehrman on this pointI don't, but I think a pro-Jesus existence shill, has to take into account your top academic's conclusion on the lack of reliability of Tacitus (and Josephus)>Ancient writers never gave their sources, retardThat's simply not true, ancient writers certainly cited their sources less than we do today, but citing a source even in ancient times became a standard for reliability and credibility>This info would have been in the archivesYou're getting desperate, there's simply no way to know that. >Pliny the Younger wrote about Christians.And how he knew little to nothing about them>t the École Biblique in Jerusalem in 1984. "That's the job he got fired for anti-semitism from.>T HE BELIEVES IN THIS CERTAIN BIT OF INFO AND I TRUST I don't "trust Ehrman" I'm just pointing out how his interpretation, the top Jesus' shills interpretation, of Tacitus is in direct contradiction of yours.
>>537242088You are a retard.
>>537242238>I don't, but I think a pro-Jesus existence shill, has to take into account your top academic's conclusion on the lack of reliability of Tacitus (and Josephus)He is one of the few that believes this. His entire argument is "He called Pilate a prefect!" which we already established is a term that has lots of overlap. You picking and choosing is pure schizo.>That's simply not true, ancient writers certainly cited their sourcesThe concept of citing sources in history writing didn't come until the 19th century.>but citing a source even in ancient times became a standard for reliability and credibilitySo now you['re saying Tacitus wasn't credible? Even though the "consensus" is that he is one of the most knowledge when it comes to ancient history and his writing are some of the most important.>You're getting desperate, there's simply no way to know that. So info about NERO wouldn't have been in the ROMAN ARCHIVES? WOW>And how he knew little to nothing about themYou wrote "Pliny knew nothing about them", now it's "knew LITTLE to NOTHING". Schizo.Pliny's letter to Trajan is one of the earliest and most important surviving historical accounts of early Christian life from a non-Christian perspective.>That's the job he got fired for anti-semitism from.Thompson was named a National Endowment for the Humanities fellow in 1988. He taught as visiting associate professor at Lawrence University (1988–89) and as associate professor at Marquette University (1989–1993)Sounds like he worked consistently. And Richard Carrier has been writing this Jesus didn't exist shit for decades and he hasn't been fired, blacklisted, he's still allowed to publish books and speak in public. You crafted this insane narrative of "If they say Jesus didn't exist their careers will be over, that's why they are silent!" Very sad and schizo.
>>537242238>I don't "trust Ehrman" I'm just pointing out how his interpretation, the top Jesus' shills interpretation, of Tacitus is in direct contradiction of yours.This "top Jesus' shill" isn't a thing. He is just a guy trying to cash in just like Carrier. And his opinion on this issue is wrong. You seem to accept "consensus among historians" in some areas but flat out reject consensus in others. Again, schizo.
If the book is so powerful that it can conquer an empire then more power to the writer. Might makes Right. Bitch.>I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
