What even is "a communist party"? Tell me.And what does communist politics entail in a poor underdeveloped society?Communism is supposed to be something about state control, as opposed to private company control.Well. What does it actually look like in the third world? We can look at Nigeria. A very illustrative example for politics in general. You had a village that was controlled by a tribe, there's a chief. Then all of a sudden one day, choppers flying over the village, land surveying, test drilling. A multinational oil corporation has discovered that there is oil right under the village. They go in and bulldoze some huts and start drilling. Locals protesting. Some get shot down. Oil spills. Oil catches fire. The whole village burns down. About half of the people manage to escape and now live in a neighboring village. The chief isn't happy about this. He goes to the oil corporation people and complains. This is my village he says, I'm the chief here, why didn't you ask my permission. You need to pay reparations. We will sue you in a London court. Now tell me where exactly is the communism in this? Because this is pretty much the third world in a nutshell.
>Communism is supposed to be something about state control, as opposed to private company control.Another thing is you can question what this distinction even means. Once again Nigeria is good for illustrating this.Say just for illustrative purposes that Nigeria was extremely poor before multinational oil corporations entered, that was maybe a hundred years ago or something. Say the government of Nigeria back then consisted of:>1k policemen>1k soldiers>2k gunsThis is very little, say the country is the size of Texas and 200 million people live there, just for illustrative purposes. The central government has virtually no power at all.Now a foreign oil corporation discovers oil in the country. They go in there and build oil infrastructure. Drill rigs. Pipelines. Ports. Etc. Lots of stuff needs to be built. Locals kill oil corporation staff and burn down the infrastructure. Zero oil is produced. The entire operation wrecked. Now the oil corporation has a new plan. Pump hundreds of millions of dollars into the central government of Nigeria on the condition that they make laws that are protective of the oil operations. This means the police and military are protecting the oil operations. Now the central government of Nigeria consists of:>100k policemen>100k soldiers>200k gunsThe government is now 100 times bigger, 100 times more powerful. And it's all due to money coming directly from the oil corporation. This is how society actually works. Business and government are in fact not separate, at all. They just brainwash you to think so.
>>537242123Communism = A socialist government ruled by kikes over a separate people. National Socialism = Zero kikes at all in government, the people ruled by their own ethnic group. That's basically it. It should be obvious which one is preferable to mutant rat kikes and which is preferable to every other group with a triple digit IQ.
>Communism is supposed to be something about state control, as opposed to private company control.No. It's about worker ownership of the means of production, and the elimination of hierarchies. And the only good communism is anarcho communism, which means no state at all.
>>537242123>Communism is supposed to be something about state controlAnd people on the first worlds think themselves superior... Damn...
>>537242311>>537242413put all your focus on jerking your dick instead, not half on posting half on jerking, ok?
>>537242311>worker ownership of the means of productionthis is empty talk, when they say the workers own the means of production they mean the state>no hierarchy>no stateYou're talking about the projected Shambala Shangri-La future golden age ascension stuff. That's the end goal of communism, not communist politics, communist party, which is the topic. When they say there was a communist party in Kerala or Somalia, or East Germany etc this doesn't entail any of the stuff you talked about.effort thread: zero repliesrage bait: 300+ repliesfucking braindead fucking coomers this whole site
>>537242123There are actually TWO communisms, with the second form coming immediately after the first:1) the "communism" of Karl Marx, which was actually a call for a return to individual artisan culture as a rejection of dehumanizing mass industrialism, and 2) the precise opposite of that, wherein the individual abdicates all autonomy over making choices in their life in exchange for the clique of the state ministers doing all their thinking for them and thereby maintaining a different form of dehumanization that doesn't revolve around the production and exchange of currency for goods and services as industrialist capitalism revolves aroundAnd this second phase of communism -- the one that actually stuck -- was the product of Karl Marx's silent partner, the crypto-ultra-ruthless child of utterly ruthless industrialists himself, Friedrich EngelsAnd so, despite the fact that communism also got called "Marxism", what we ultimately got with communism was "Engels-ism", but it probably got called "Marxism" because that just rolls off the tongue much easier and just plain sounds betterAnd yet it had virtually nothing to do with what Marx actually proposed himself, as outlined in his first volume of his "Kapital"...
>>537242123>What even is "a communist party"? Tell me.>The birthday boy has to share his presents.>Everyone gets a balloon but there is one balloon and they also all need to share it. >The birthday cake comes out and candles are blown out. Goes into the kitchen to be cut into slices but never comes back out the kitchen >You all get a party bag but there's nothing inside it.
The so-called "third world" are savage lands ruled by nonwhites. If those places had been ruled by whites, they would be modern, sophisticated places contributing mightily to global progress. We've seen small glimpses of it, with Australia, early Argentina, Rhodesia. If Africa was colonized, in the manner of America, and became a white continent, today Africa would be generating massive production on a global scale. It would be leading new medical cures, landing spaceships on Mars. With Africa's size, and agricultural capacity, that place could house more whites than all of Europe and America combined, 2 times over. Consider the amount of inventions we've had in the past 100 years, triple that. We could be 200 years in the future in terms of our tech. Literally leaving the solar system. Today rather than being a benefit to mankind, Africa is a lead weight on our feet pulling us down. Trillions of dollars of aid to prop them up, and it's a land of suffering, death, starvation, murder. We are proliferating this poverty across the world, the scope of suffering is expanding as their population grows.
>>537242935>>537242994Didn't read, retards, because you didn't fucking read beyond the first fucking sentence of the thread. The topic is the entire thread text, not just the first sentence. Go back to jerking yourself off homos.
>>537243082Reading is for nerds, nerd.
>>537243082I'm assuming you typed that post with your dick and ass cheeks
Technically, communism means all the workers of the country own the capital. In reality, the state control the capital through councils and committees of a few men.In modern financial capitalism, technically, all the people (at least, the boomers) "own" the capital via their savings and retirement investments. In reality, each individuals little pot is handed over to a small group of men who control a handful of financial institutions.Even the oil corp is irrelevant in this system. The oil corp will almost certainly be publicly traded, and its shared controlled by a number of financial institutions. These institutions in turn will be publicly traded, and their shares owned by other institutions, and so on, and so forth. In the end, through this incestuous web, control of all the world's capital funnels up to just 2 institutions: Blackrock and Vanguard. Blackrock is public, and in turn is owned by Vanguard. Vanguard itself in privately owned, so this is where the chain ends. Who controls Vanguard? Probably the Committee of 300, or the Council of 13. The same cabal that controls the central banks.So, in the end, all of the capital and all of the money is controlled by very few hands. These hands, through methods such as coercion, blackmail and bribery, puppeteer the political class, and so they, de facto, also run the state.So in the end, the situation is no different to communism.
>>537243452yet another fucking wanker who couldn't read past the first sentence, kys
>>537244270I was discussing the theme of "the entire thread text".Since you're a loathsome little pseud piece of shit, here's some advice. Open your threads with the thesis to be discussed, so that there is no ambiguity.The format that the Oxford Union uses is "This house believes...".
>>537245326Go back to fapping
>>537245326If you actually read the two posts that make up the OP you would have seen not only propositions but also a few questions. These were written in order to be the topic discussed. You're simply a fucking brainlet.
>>537246220The post ends with its thesis: "Business and government are in fact not separate, at all."This calls for some compare and constant, which I did.If you really thought the reply had no value, then you could have simply ignored it, rather than schizing out like the fractious, cretinous little turd that you are.
>>537247064contrast*
>>537242123>communist partyOne that would put your overlords, i.e. the Wallenberg family to the wall and execute all of them, little demonic children spawns included.
>>537247064All your brain is sufficient for is the task of jerking your dick, so go back to doing that.
>>537247329Since you'll never be satisfied with any reply, let's derail the thread and examine what compels you to lash out at others and act like a piece of shit, and why you make daily pseud threads on this board with the purpose of cultivating a deluded sense of superiority over others.Did daddy not love you enough? Or perhaps, he loved you too much..
