Why was there no fat people in 1970? It seems like they ate a lot of oily slop too. But they were all fit, how come?
>memeflag>ai slop
>oily slopNo.
>>537252467Lol fuck! 1971 here. I havent seen a toasted tuna melt since the 70s. Thanks anon made my day.
People didn't snack in between meals or drink pop very often. Restaurants were a special occasion thing, not delivery three times a week because you don't want to cook.
>>537252467It’s because the food has been dramatically altered since those days. Additionally people today are growing up eating the industrialized ultra processed foods were back then they were just being introduced to it as adults. It’s 100% industrialized food. It breaks your metabolism at a hormonal level, destroys your cellular ATP to give you low energy, causes leaky gut syndrome, insulin resistance, diabetes, arthrosclerosis, cancer and Alzheimer’s. It’s literally poison you have to eat like your ancestors ate. Single sourced ingredients nothing overly processed or else you become a slave to economically incentivize medical complex that serves the pharmaceutical complex and US corporations. Remember this is my design to shorten your lifespan and harvest your wealth, a.k.a. biological colonialism.
how do you know there were no fat people?
>>537253600This is the ultra midwit take. Most young people think this because they’re skinny at first because the food takes a while to break your metabolism based on your epigenetic reaction. The reality is anything designed to blame the victim when the entire industry is built around making people sick should be re-thought.
Because the degree to which the food you eat has become industrially engineered hyper-caloric slop has ramped up over time, while at the same time the general activity level of the average person has decreased. The average 1970s housewife had a daily energy expenditure much higher than the working woman of today. This math adds up significantly over the days, weeks, months, years.
>>537252467burgers yet didn't find out the cheapest fats and sugars and even cooked sometimes
>>537253737We have the first video photography of us cities the turn of the 20th century so 1905 ish. There were literally no fat people. Look it up. Fat people aren’t jolly people that like to eat. There are people with broken metabolism caused by industrialized foods.
>>537252467Corn syrup wasn’t invented yet as a way to subsidize farmers cause nobody buys fucking corn
>>537253458How do you have internet in 1971?
>>537253737> how do you know there were no fat people?I was in Jr High in the 70’s. There was this kid in gym class, mike renyolds. He was the fattest guy anyone had ever seen. The coaches would ride his ass because he was so enormous.Mike weighed like 200 pounds.
>>537253878Interestingly enough corn syrup is produced through a process called hydrolization. Most GMO onions corn products are made this way so they don’t disrupt your immune system. It’s a stealth way to break up carbohydrate chains to hide the type of food being presented to your immune system. This is also how we get animals like cats to eat grain and onions without having violent reactions since they are strictly carnivores. This type of food typically is absorbed in your small intestines and is considered ultra low residue meaning not much makes it to your large in attendance and colon. This causes all types of gastrointestinal issues that result in practical farmable medical problems. This is also why animals are starting to get problems like mega colon. Basically food like this it’s pre-digested so your immune system doesn’t freak out when you eat it. This is what you’re eating when you eat fast food or anything that’s overly processed which is about 80% of everything you buy at mainstream grocery stores. The food is literally poison.
>>537253808>1905that is 65 years before 1970
This thread will most certainly get archives or slid.
>>537254182That’s irrelevant. Industrialized foods have slowly been worked into our diets over the past 150 years. Heart disease didn’t exist before the term of the century 1900. Not until processed industrialized foods and fake fats hit the scene.
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>>537252467Because 50% of the population wasn't sitting all day long doing pointless office work.
>>537252467big tobacco and big food conglomerized in the 1980s through mergers, acqusitions, hostile takeovers. though the trend has since reversed, the institutional knowledge and praxis that diffused between the industries has not.american food optimizes for addictive potential and sugar/starch plays a big role in this. obesity is a side effect.
>>537252467for the most part every western country had a manufacturing economy as opposed to today a service based one hence a large majority of people worked jobs that revolved around physical labour. Now everyone sits on their ass from dawn to dusk with nothing better to do but eat.
>>537254341>we need to get back in the coal mines!what do you do for a living?
>>537252467There were no artificial sweeteners then either. Somehow diabetes was almost unheard of
>>537252467Less salt.Less processed vegetable oil (only olive and sunflower oil were popularly used).Way more animal fats.Everyone was outside way more, so they for way more sunlight. That improves mitochondrial activity / metabolism.Food products had far fewer ingredients.Fewer pesticides. You can wash your veggies all you want, you're consuming pesticide.Since then, GMO crops have become a problem. They don't get digested the same way.
>>537252574A homemade tuna melt isn't slop turdy, it's lunch.
>>537252467Millennials/Zoomers will blame everything except their sedentary lifestyles.
>>537253458wtf you can make one literally today, retard. I made one last weekend for lunch
>>537254511He didn’t say that. He was simply pointing out the relationship between sedentary work and being fat, sperg. This level of defensive snapping is a mental illness btw.
>>537254915no one except sad bachelors make food like that these days anon.
>>537254511Half sitting at a computer, half walking around a power plant.
>>537255061Do you think you’re limited to making just one? We had them for lunch when I was a kid in the 90s. Another bizarre post, your insecurity isn’t my problem, retard.
>>537252467People used to walk. Cars have destroyed humanity.
>>537252467Because metal adjuvants, like Thimerosol, were added to childhood vaccines in the 1980s, and they caused obesity, baldness, and autism rates to skyrocket. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4982359/
>>537252467The shit people drink.
>>537252467Smoking helped a lot with staying in good shape.
>>537254106How would you advise a cash strapped nigga to avoid these poisonous food products and still be able to eat? If you want to eat clean food it costs an arm and a leg. Is this by design? I’m ignorant to some of this stuff but It would seem it would be less costly to produce cleaner foods? Where as the slop seems like it would have an increased production cost because of all the additional ingredients, additives and chemicals? Thanks for your posts anon. Good info.
>>537252467The government demonized smoking to cover for increased cancer from nuclear weapon testing.
>>537252467No GMOs.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xACXXoEa-8
>>537252467People walked more. Europeans walk ten minutes to the train station, five minutes within the station, ten minutes to work and do it all in reverse, five days a week. Most Americans now only are briefly out of an air conditioned bubble where they don't walk in their garage and in a parking lot. They get maybe 600 steps a day.
>>537252467it's more about eating habits. People in Japan eat a lot of oily fried stuff too but the difference is they just eat a little of it, not a giant plate of it
1967 oldfag. There were fat people. One of my first memories was my neighbor had a fat grandmother that smelled like an old uncooked hamburger. I asked my dad, a doctor why and he said bacteria.
>>537253771My nana was on "diet pills" and "vitamin shots" all through the 60s and 70s, along with all of her friends. Food and exercise were much better then for sure, but don't underestimate the impact of the amphetamine+barbituate lifestyle that was prevalent in the suburbs.
>>537255646Most of this stuff is byproducts of other processes that used to be thrown out but now is sold for human consumption.Eat real food, don't fry everything, don't eat shitloads of grains or corn, don't drink sugar water. It's not hard.Take potatoes for example, a large potato has 280 calories. After you cut it up and fry it in seed oils that same potato has like 900 calories. Bake that potato instead or cut it into cubes and make soup out of it and you won't get fat.
>>537252467They suddenly decided that fatty foods were bad, so they replaced fat with sugar and hfcs.Also people were naturally more physically active back then
>>537254241>term of the century You seem trustworthy. Go on.
>>537252467The magic of portion control.
>>537252467Everybody worked in a factory or a farm. No added sugar blowing out your pancreas. Snacks were for watching sports if anything. Smoking.
>>537253744No. In Europe the French have less weight problems only because ithey don't eat snacks. Every meal is an occasion when you sit at the table and only enjoy the food. Next time you put something in your mouth is 4-5 hours later.
Also if you make it past childhood without getting fat you are less likely to blow up later. Kids played sports even if they sucked.
>>537252467We got GMO seeds causing inflammation when people eat it. Abhorrent farming practices stripping all nutrition from food.
it was the introduction of vegetable oil as a butter replacement that made everyone balloon up. its in everything now. that and high fructose corn syrup.
>>537257357The French actually eat real food.
>>537254106>Most GMO onions corn products are made this way so they don’t disrupt your immune systemwhere in the hell did you hear this?i just looked it up, it's to break down the starch into glucose, which makes it sweeter. humans do very well on carbohydrates, as thousands of years of people subsisting on 80-90% grain diets will attest. >This type of food typically is absorbed in your small intestines and is considered ultra low residue meaning not much makes it to your large in attendance and colon. This causes all types of gastrointestinal issues that result in practical farmable medical problems.a quick search tells us:>The premise that hydrolyzed foods cause gastrointestinal issues due to being "ultra low residue" is incorrect. Hydrolyzed foods (such as elemental or semi-elemental formulas) are pre-digested to ensure maximum absorption in the small intestine, which typically reduces the workload on the digestive system and is often used to manage gastrointestinal conditions rather than cause them.>Low Residue Benefit: Because these foods are broken down into simple nutrients (amino acids, simple sugars, fatty acids), they leave minimal undigested material ("residue") for the large intestine, which helps reduce symptoms like bloating, gas, and diarrhea in conditions like IBD or short bowel syndrome. >Medical Usage: These diets are clinically prescribed to rest the gut or provide nutrition when standard digestion is impaired, not because they cause harm. >Distinction: While a long-term diet lacking fiber can lead to issues like constipation or nutrient deficiencies, hydrolyzed formulas are designed for therapeutic use under medical supervision to alleviate, not create, gastrointestinal distress.>This is also why animals are starting to get problems like mega colon.there are all kinds of reasons they get this. do you have any proof that it's caused by hydrolized corn syrup?
>>537258042> to ensure maximum absorption in the small intestine, which typically reduces the workload on the digestive systemReal food has fibre in it. These sorts of processes remove fibre and make the food “ultra-digestible” meaning more calories can be extracted with less digestive/metabolic “work.”>why are so many people getting colon cancer?
>>537257357American food is garbage meant to make you sick because the food industry here is in bed with the healthcare industry so they work together to keep the population fat and diseases to sell them drugs. I don't know how it is in Europe, but that's how it is here.
>>537252467Smoking.
>>537252467Because food hadn't been jewed.What was simply "food" back then would in today's ultra-kiked world be a hugely expensive "all organic" diet.What the goyim are fed instead of real food is nutrient-deficient goyslop: GM corn and söy, herbicides, pesticides, flavor enhancers, and fillers. Nutrients are expensive and reduce profits. Flavored fillers are cheap and increase profits. Which is the jew gonna call "food"?And here's why that makes people obese:The body sends hunger signals based on *nutrient* needs, not caloric needs. So people are forced to consume ever-greater amounts of empty calories attempting to meet their nutritional needs.There's also the hide-the-inflation fuckery angle. As real wages stagnate or decline but food prices rise, people are forced to buy ever-shittier artificial imitation food substitute products, which leaves them eating even *more* garbage calories trying to get nutrients.So the short version is the kikes nutrient-clipped the food supply, and sell the slaves more profitable goyslop instead - because the animals have to buy and eat more of it to try to nourish themselves.Finally, there's the "genocide whites" benefit. A population that is too fat and too lethargic and too cognitively impaired won't be able to fight back against the theft of their society.OBESITY IS A SYMPTOM OF MALNUTRITIONtl;dr - fucking jews and their goyslop
>>537258326*fat and diseased
>>537254350>american food optimizes for addictive potential and sugar/starch plays a big role in this. obesity is a side effect.no, it's the fat. they know for a fact that adding fat makes things more addictive. sugar cuts your appetite and rarely makes you fat, we don't possess a very strong mechanism to make sugar into fat. fats also make you insulin resistant, while sugars do the opposite. this is why type 2 diabetics are cured when they go on an oatmeal and fruit, or rice/fruit/sugar diet. >Compulsive Seeking: Research published in Progress in Neuro-Psychopharmacology and Biological Psychiatry (2025) demonstrated that mice developed addiction-like behaviors (compulsivity, high motivation, and persistent seeking) for both saturated and unsaturated high-fat diets, even without added sugar. Distinct Pathways: Fat activates a dedicated gut-brain circuit via the vagus nerve, separate from the sugar pathway. This circuit signals the brain's reward center to release dopamine, reinforcing the desire to consume more fat. >The Synergistic "One-Two Punch">The most potent driver of addictive eating is not fat or sugar alone, but their combination in ultra-processed foods. >Supra-Additive Dopamine Release: When fat and sugar circuits are activated simultaneously, they create a synergistic effect, releasing significantly more dopamine than the sum of their individual effects. This "one-two punch" overwhelms the brain's satiety signals.another issue with addictive food is the flavouring agents. they are also used in cigarettes to make them more addictive. homegrown tobacco and american spirits are still habit forming, but not addictive like marlboros etc.https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022356525398642
>>537255646Make your own bread. Make sure to buy organic flour, I recommend spelt. You want coarsely ground flour. Eat eggs and lots of them. Eat single source ingredients like beans and vegetable. You want them fresh. Recently -even frozen vegetables are tainted and have added glycerin and other types of manufacturing additives that don’t have to be labeled. Avoid any type of dairy that’s grain fed. You want grass fed foods. Overly grain fed animal products act as a seed oil and oxidizes causing arterial and stomach damage. Do not eat any processed oils. You’re better off with pure CAFO butter than things like canola oil. You can have some oils however in the United States most of them are adulterated so they’re mixed with poisonous oils. If you must have olive oil make sure you source it directly from Greece or a reputable supplier. I recommend grassfed Ghee or simply Ghee if you can’t afford grass fed. It has a high smoke point it is wonderful to cook with. You can fry with it also. What you’ll realize is avoiding seed and processed oils basically knocks out 95% of fast food and restaurant food from your diet. You will have opiate like withdrawal if you quit seed oils because they act on the same receptors as drugs like heroin crack opium etc. This is the major component to fix your cholesterol. The secret cholesterol is to control arterial inflammation. Bad cholesterol and LpA are actually indicators of your immune system system repairing damage. When they say it’s genetic they mean it’s epigenetic. These types of food affect everyone negatively however some people have better resistance to them than others that’s the genetic component which is quite different than some of us are doomed genetically to death (this is the status quo for most Doctors at the moment; telling people they are genetically susceptible when in reality it’s epigenetic).If you have to eat grain fed meat make sure it’s lean with low-fat. Fillets and sirloin.
Back in the seventies middle class families would eat baloney sandwiches on white bread and Campbells soup if mom didn’t feel like cooking. Almost no one had a microwave until the eighties and where you might have six fast food restaurants today you might have one. Relentlessly eating high calorie meals and snacks just wasn’t as prevalent as it is today.
>>537253929RAND and Mitre both have time machines.
>>537252467Food has been engineered by jews with sugar, salt and fat to reach the bliss point so you eat when full and have problems stopping. It's literally engineered to hook you like a drug and make you overeat. It's the only true answer.
>>537252467The collective microbiom was healthy, because they were a lot more outside and did hard physical labor.
>>537254511checkmany people were still self employed on family farms.>The most significant trend is the steady erosion of self-employment as the US economy shifted from agrarian to industrial and service-based.>1948 Peak: The self-employment rate stood at 18.5%, heavily influenced by a large population of independent farmers.>Agricultural Collapse: By 2003, the rate had dropped to 7.5% (non-agricultural context) or roughly 10% (total employment), as small family farms were replaced by large corporate operations. In 2003, the self-employment rate in agriculture was still 41.8%, compared to just 6.9% in non-agricultural industries. >Modern Baseline: Since the mid-1970s, once agricultural data is separated or the sector stabilizes, the rate has hovered around 10%. In 2014, it was 10.1%, virtually unchanged from 10.2% in 1976.
>>537252467most fat people aren't white. third worlders who come from cultures that never had agriculture can't properly process our diet
>>537258405This is the exact opposite of what carnivore, paleo, keto and low carb diet practitioners have reported and experienced for the last decade.Diabetes is resolved by fasting and refeeding on animal fat and simple proteins.Eating sugar spikes the insulin levels which floods the receptors and eventually ceases their function.
>>537252467People walked, this is the main difference you can still see today between America and Europe.People also didn't drink frappucinos with more than their daily caloric needs first thing in the morning Less snacking through the day and less fast food.Less sedentary jobs/lifestyleHumans have legs, we are meant to use them and if you don't while drinking your turbo oreo caramel tripleccino with extra diabetes corn syrup with a fucking scone or something and already have 2500kcal before starting your day during which you'll snack on doritos, takis, soft drinks and other shit you had already lost (the game) before it even started.
>>537258433>continuedMake sure you never eat farmed seafood. They feed these animals fake processed foods including grain. These are very unhealthy similar to grain fed animal products. Make sure you eat wild caught fish only. Intermittent fasting is the best tool you can use to fix your metabolism. One of the biggest secrets to all of this is thinking it’s normal to be starving all the time it absolutely is not normal. You’re starving all the time because you probably have high insulin resistance and a high glucose based diet in addition to cellular ATP damage caused from deuterium overload from corn and other cheap single source GMO crops. Read all of Jason Fung’s books. This is literally what sent me on the right path. He will fix a obesity diabetes heart disease cholesterol and your hormonal levels based on what he shares with his books.The Obesity codeThe Diabetes codeThe Cancer codeThe complete guide to fasting100% of these diseases are reversible however if you ignore this you will become ill even if you’re not overweight. The mainstream diets we are fed lead to obesity, diabetes, heart disease, Alzheimer’s and ultimately cancer. Just because you aren’t obese doesn’t mean you’re immune. You have to regulate your glucose and insulin level and stop eating these poisonous foods.So talking about processed oils. There are a lot of heart associations and doctors that say omega sixes are healthy which are loaded in seed oils. This is true under very controlled conditions if you consider that if you eat a diet that’s 100% natural and unprocessed it’s impossible to get more than 2-3% of your diet from omega6s. Today most people in America obtain 25% of their calories from a omega sixes which is highly inflammatory and unstable. So you shouldn’t be consuming more than 2 to 3% of your calories from omega-6. This is why you want grass fed products, wild caught fish to maximize omega-3 inputs which directly balance omega-6s.
>>537252467Vitamin D3, their windows had no UV filters.
>>537257036I’ve answered a few questions here already, what would you like to know?
>>537254813>Less salt.nope>Research analyzing urinary sodium excretion—the most accurate method for measuring intake—found that Americans have consumed approximately 3,700 milligrams (mg) of sodium per day consistently from the 1950s through the early 2000s. A Harvard study published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition examined data from 1957 to 2003 and concluded that salt intake had remained "unchanged for 50 years," hovering well above the federal recommendation of less than 2,300 mg daily>muh sneed oilnope>By the 1950s, seed oils—particularly basedbean oil and cottonseed oil—had transitioned from industrial byproducts to staple dietary fats. >Basedbean Surge: Following World War II, basedbean oil overtook cottonseed oil to become the most consumed vegetable oil in the US by the early 1950s. Advances in refining and hydrogenation made it palatable, stable, and cheap for mass use.>Crisco and Shortening: Crisco, introduced in 1911 as hydrogenated cottonseed oil, was a ubiquitous household item by the 1950s. It was heavily marketed as a "modern," "pure," and "digestible" alternative to lard, capitalizing on public fears about meatpacking sanitation and saturated fats.>Margarine Boom: The 1950s saw a massive expansion in margarine consumption, which was primarily made from seed oils. It was promoted as a heart-healthy substitute for butter, aligning with emerging (though later contested) dietary guidelines linking saturated fat to heart disease.that being said, they did get most of their fats from animal sources, which predictably led to horrible health outcomes. hypertension was one of the biggest killers. heart attacks are just more survivable now. people in the 1950s actually had pretty bad health overall. the heart disease rate has fallen drastically, mostly due to the use of seed oil over animal fats, as every study on them shows. they are also proven to lower blood lipids.
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>>537258433begrudging check>low on cash? just eat grass fed ghee and beef!
>>537257357Hello Anon. So first let me say that you’re not wrong however there’s more to the story then you might realize. In America the food breaks your metabolism which typically causes most people to consume an enormous amount of carbohydrates and sugar which lead to massive insulin resistance. This heighten insulin resistance makes people insatiable. They have constant hunger cravings which are almost impossible to satisfy. To make matters worst most of the food in America that’s processed which is a vast major majority of it can be considered ultra low residue foods that are essentially hydrolyzed (pre-digested) so they are almost instantly absorbed into the bloodstream which makes these tendencies even worse. That being said the EU does a fantastic job at regulating a lot of the industrialized components out of your food supply to where you don’t have these troubles in Europe. They do exist but they are much more manageable as most of your food is real food and is an engineered to make people into human pigs. I can explain more if you would like. There’s interesting tales from student exchange programs in Europe where everyone knows that when someone comes to America they instantly gained 20 pounds. I’ve heard stories of German anons and Swedish anons talking about this phenomenon. It certainly isn’t because they started snacking more as a conscious choice because now they’re in America and it’s cultural. It’s because they’re metabolism essentially get bogged down with the food that we serve here and they become ravenously hungry multiple times throughout the day which ultimately leads them to eat more it’s a self-serving cycle to create illness and promote GDP growth.
>>537254106Interesting, ty
>>537254106>food is literally poisonAbsolutely.And include that GM corn and söy, along with the glyphosate with which they're coated, are incredibly toxic. They attack the GI tract (just to a lesser degree than in insects), and that intestinal inflammation leads to brain inflammation - which is one reason for the sharp rise in autism. (Increased consumption of sugar and older mothers are others.)I know someone highly allergic to GM corn (like get the epi pen if they eat it). Normal corn is fine. It's only GM corn (meaning any product that contains it). But here's the fascinating thing: they're equally allergic to anything *derived from* GM corn. Milk from a cow fed GM corn? Reaction. Eggs from chickens fed corn meal? Reaction. Medicines made with precursors (such as alcohol) from GM corn? Reaction. (That last one was discovered at a hospital in the OR when the bag hung by the anaesthesiologist, a good and careful doc, started sending the person I know into shock.)And GM corn is in *everything* - food, cosmetics, medicine, toothpaste, the corn starch that coats rubber gloves, the perfumes that scent trash bags.So Americans look like we're being poisoned because we ARE being poisoned.
>>537259162>self-serving cycle to create illness and promote GDP growthalmost got me w that one
>>537258042Ultimately what this does is get the nutrients into your bloodstream immediately. Most of the immune reaction is in the pet foods and this is how we have cats and dogs eating grains. Think about cows for example when they eat grains they get sick and they require pH adjustment and antibiotics in order to fatten up on the grains before slaughter. In humans it’s more so a convenient way to package ultra processed foods however if formal studies were done I would definitely believe GMO foods would cause inflammatory immune reactions and this would help manage that in a stealth like way.
>>537258405It’s not the fat. It’s insulin resistance. This is what makes you ravenously hungry. Additionally processed synthetic fats work on the same neural receptors as drugs. They effectively give you a low-grade buzz. If you stop eating seed oils or any type of vegetable oils you will literally have withdrawal symptoms similar to opiates.
>>537259017Animal fats are 100% OK if they’re grass fed and natural. If you look at USDA fat profiles they are toxic carcinogenic. There have never been formal on studies proving red meat cause cancer based on grass fed animals, zero.
>>537259427>you will have withdrawl symptoms similar to opioidsSource? This smells like pure bullshit.
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>>537259072Cope more. What I’ve said here has helped hundreds of people reverse obesity diabetes heart disease and other terrible horrible future health outcomes.
>>537253458What are you talking about my whole family ate tuna melts constantly and I just made my wife one for lunch like a few weeks ago.Also canned tuna is fucking gross I dunno you fuckers eat it.
>>537259281If it’s not that on then what is it? Why would we intentionally produce foods and methodology that leads to horrible health outcomes. Here’s an example: my wife after discovering what I’ve explained in this thread lost 60 pounds without effort. She became blood anemic and her OB/GYN recommended that they perform a hysterectomy to control her anemia. At no point in time did her OB/GYN explain to her that fat loss creates estrogen dominance over progesterone which causes her uterine lining to thicken causing her to lose more blood and become anemic overtime as she continues to lose weight. We had to figure this out go to an integrative medical doctor and stabilize her weight loss so that she could retain enough iron to not become blood anemic. So if it’s not for profit and biological colonialism, then what is it?
>>537258693>third worlders who come from cultures that never had agriculture can't properly process our dietThis is another important point. We need to eat what our ancestors ate - because that's what our genetics leaves us needing to eat to stay healthy.Dr. Jay Wortman has done great work studying the connection of diet and health:"The Epidemic of Obesity - Jay Wortman"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T1WtLnW6b8
>>537259545Al-Sabbah, Sameer, et al. "The Addicted Brain: How Processed Foods Hijack Reward Pathways." Journal of Neuropharmacology and Dietary Behavior, vol. 14, no. 1, 10 Jan. 2026, pp. 45–58. SOCHOB, www.sochob.cl/web1/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/The-addicted-brain-How-processed-foods-hijack-reward-pathways.pdf."Food Addiction." ResearchGate, reviewed by Clinical Neurochemistry Forum, 16 Mar. 2026, www.researchgate.net/publication/384360805_Food_Addiction.Gordon, Ashley L., et al. "What Is the Evidence for 'Food Addiction?' A Systematic Review." Nutrients, vol. 10, no. 4, Apr. 2018, p. 477. PubMed Central, pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5946262/.Martinez-Gomez, Elena, and Sofia Garcia-Anaya. "Binge-Type Eating Disorders and Ultra-Processed Food Addiction." Neuroscience and Biobehavioral Reviews, vol. 162, 20 June 2025, article 10567. PubMed Central, pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12231405/.Volkow, Nora D., et al. "Linking Drug and Food Addiction: An Overview of the Shared Neural Circuits and Behavioral Phenotype." Frontiers in Behavioral Neuroscience, vol. 17, 12 Sept. 2023, pp. 1–15. Frontiers, www.frontiersin.org/journals/behavioral-neuroscience/articles/10.3389/fnbeh.2023.1240748/full.
>>537255667Guys now look at the girl on the left there and think "damn she a little thicc could be thicker but I'll smash anyway" and the girls that look like the girl on the left think "I deserve a 6'6" chad with an 8.5" dick who makes $350,000 a year!"
>>537259545So I tend to hear the sirens call with alcohol. When I quit processed oil oils a.k.a. seed oils and most vegetable oil oils altogether the urge to drink alcohol severely dropped. This brings us to our next topic that most winds the United States are completely toxic. In the United States FDA allows up to 70+ chemical chemicals like mega purple and all different types of nasty things into consumer wine without having to label them on the bottle. An easy shortcut is to simply buy Pisco from Peru because it’s inherently biodynamic. This is grape based liquor. I actually make my own wines and fortify with Pisco. Makes a big difference. https://www.eatingwell.com/article/7594577/i-just-found-out-most-wine-is-full-of-chemicals-heres-what-you-need-to-know/
>>537255646first of all everything he said was false, and provably sosecond, if you want to eat clean, and cheap, whole grains and starchy root vegetables are the way to go. you cannot go cheaper than this. oatmeal, grits, rice, beans, lentils, wheat and barley berries, bananas, potatoes, carrots, cabbage, and table sugar are all cheapthe roman gladiators lived on a diet of almost exclusively barley, and they were fit, strong, top athletes. if you want to add in some other stuff, go ahead. meat once in a while won't break the bank if you just reduce it and get your calories from starches. people only use carbs and fat for energy, protein is the least important macro of all. papua new guinea highlanders have a super low protein diet, yet are all tall and strong. they eat 95% sweet potatoes and leaves. these have all nutrients you need save for b12, and d which is from the sun. i also eat tons of pasta, and use canned tomatos to make my own sauce for much less. garlic and onion are also super cheap, so you can make a sauce that tastes like something.after years of keto and carnivore, i went the other way and never turned back. i have a lot of chronic health problems which have been helped by eating this way as well. one week after quitting dairy my hands no longer felt like broken glass due to arthritis.throughout most of history and for most people, meat has been an occasional luxury eaten at religous holidays and weddings, stuff like that. even herdsmen like the bedouin ate a very low meat diet, despite being surrounded by hundreds of animals. they were famous for living on average 120 years, all while living in tents and getting beaten on by the sun.
The issue in American diets is High Fructose Corn Syrup. This is a long video, but the guy breaks it down to the very basics. Warning: There will be math. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z5X0i92OZQ
>>537259692>Why would we intentionally produce foods and methodology that leads to horrible health outcomesBecause sick and suffering people are the source of all of the medical industry's profits."Medicine" today exists to create addicts to drugs and treatment who are sick enough they'll pay anything to escape the pain but just healthy enough to keep paying for their pharma drugs and treatment.
>>537254241>Heart disease didn’t exist before the term of the century 1900.https://www.baystatehealth.org/articles/history-of-heart-disease>This statement is incorrect. Heart disease, specifically coronary atherosclerosis, has existed for thousands of years, with evidence found in ancient Egyptian mummies and historical texts.
>>537253878This. Our raw ingredients are covered in slop.
>>537260000Absolutely not. I’ve reversed obesity, diabetes heart disease and bad cholesterol. My A1C went from 6.1 to 5.3 in 8 months. I lost almost 100 pounds. No weight loss drugs. I’ve kept it off now for six years without effort. I’m never hungry and my blood test come back perfect every time. I’m in my mid 40s and healthy as a horse. I eat red meat, eggs, ghee and spelt bread every day. I take a blood test every 3 to 6 months to check these metrics. I think what you want but as you get older (I can tell you’re younger and trust the government advice) you’ll find out you’re definitely not eating correctly. The moment you were fighting weight loss you know there’s a problem. People shouldn’t have to exercise weight off constantly. That’s a warning sign. Additionally if you’re starving that the warning sign. You should never feel starving.
>>537260118It was a rhetorical question if you read my post in this thread you can see that clearly I understand what you’re saying and advocate for conclusion as well.
>>537252467Cigs were 25¢/pack, and you could smoke anywhere.
>>537260000>whole grains and starchy root vegetablesThis is fine if you stick to sweet potatoes and coarsely ground flour however the problem with grains is most of it in America is overly processed so you end up with fine grain. Fine grain ends up taking a complex carbohydrate and be behaving like a simple carbohydrate like sugar because it’s overly refined. It’s very difficult to even find course ground flour in America. So this advice to Americans will end up giving them diabetes unless they grind their own flour, or have the ability to look into course ground flour and self tested with a glucose meter to ensure it’s not causing large spikes. White potatoes are out completely if you’re already metabolic is broken (fat).
People ate less. Personally I get by with just eating around 1000kcal a day but make up for it by getting shit faced every weekend
>>537252467Actual PE class in schoolYou got bullied for being fatFood supply wasn't pozzed yetNo internet or video games
>>537260192Most certainly. The same with diabetes however you never saw the main stream under class with these ailments. Only pharaohs and high luxury refined foods cause these issues. These were nowhere to be found 300 years ago in 95% of the population. This feels like a desperate attempt to cherry pick a rebuttal. Pathetic.
>>537252467there was no internet or cable and only people with money had air conditioning so almost everyone went out and did physical things. kids played outside every available moment and that behavior shaped their activity levels as adults.simple as.simple as
>>537258189>Real food has fibre in it. These sorts of processes remove fibre and make the food “ultra-digestible” meaning more calories can be extracted with less digestive/metabolic “work.”corn juice is real food. sugar cane juice is real food.the idea that food which is more digestible is bad for you because you do less "work" is spurious. the fibre is used by the gut bacteria to create short chain fatty acids which feed the intestinal lining. an honey has more fructose than hfcs btw. lack of fibre rather, than something which is easily absorbed, is the driver for leaky gut. the MEAT and DAIRY proteins which then get though are so similar to your own proteins that your body begins attacking itself, aka autoimmune diseases. the bowel can also have parts of it die from clogged blood vessels, a bowel infarction. again, lack of fibre. https://youtu.be/gkljuArdWUwand as i said, textured vegetable proteins are very harmful, moreso than meat. the only reason people eat them is because they get convinced by tard influencers that they need more protein, which they don't.
>>537260000WHO also tries to say that salt causes bad health outcomes but what they don’t tell you is they’re measuring NACL table salt that’s been refined with iodine added back in. That’s not real sea salt. The reality is before the industrial revolution the soil had natural iodine levels that were adequate to stop the neural tube closure issue industrialized foods caused about 100 years ago leading to the government peddling toxic NACL with iodine added. Sea salt salts are 85% NaCl roughly, and contain magnesium, potassium and other micro nutrients that put a upper limit on how much it will affect your blood pressure. You have to be careful of micro plastics in some sea salt however there are a good sources you can find. Never use NaCl table salt. It’s better to just supplement iodine intermittently on its own. If the government hadn’t pushed chemical in industrialized farming we wouldn’t need iodine supplementation in the first place. Just another example of the scam in full force. Personally I think you’re a moron if you think WHO is a legitimate organization.
>>537260746>corn juice is real food>sugar cane juice is real foodI don’t think anyone America is getting traditional corn juice or sugarcane juice. Please point out where you can buy those in America. I think you’re trying to refute ultra processed High-Fructose Corn Syrup (HFCS) and refined white sugar crystals however using a red herring argument to point to traditional food products that aren’t ultra processed that don’t exist in America at scale today.
>>537258814>This is the exact opposite of what carnivore, paleo, keto and low carb diet practitioners have reported and experienced for the last decade.no it isn't, and i'm one of them. we have known that sugar causes insulin SENSITIVITY, not resistance, and that fat does the oppositehttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1394223/?page=1each successive administration of sugar leads to greater glucose tolerance.>Diabetes is resolved by fasting and refeeding on animal fat and simple proteins.no it isn't. a1c goes down, but circulating insulin goes sky high. this is because the fat blocks the insulin receptors on the fat cells. this causes your body to store the fat in your muscles and organs. https://youtu.be/ks0hHmkXXuohere is an interesting video with a gym full of paleoniggers getting before and after labs after switching to a mediterranean diet. one woman, a doctor, was blown away to find out she was pre diabetic.but wait, there's more!>Amino Acid Profile: Animal proteins are rich in branched-chain amino acids (BCAAs), particularly leucine and valine. Excess BCAAs can activate the mTOR pathway and increase serum amino acid levels, which directly impairs insulin signaling and glucose uptake in muscle cells. >Glucagon Secretion: Ingesting animal protein stimulates the sustained secretion of glucagon, a hormone that opposes insulin action in the liver. This can lead to chronic hyperglucagonemia, which promotes insulin resistance and predisposes healthy subjects to type 2 diabetes. Cooking Byproducts and Fats: High-heat cooking of animal proteins generates Advanced Glycation End-products (AGEs), which trigger oxidative stress and inflammation. Additionally, saturated fats found in red and processed meats can block glucose entry into cells, further reducing insulin sensitivity. >Eating sugar spikes the insulin levels which floods the receptors and eventually ceases their function.nope, see the article i linked
>>537260746You have a narcissistic way about your responses. Anything you can do to prove that your ideology is correct however most of your posts end up being weird rebuttals instead of actually helping people out which means you’re simply chasing an egotistical dopamine hit. Maybe go outside and touch some soil and get some of that healthy bacteria in between your nails instead of stroking your ego.
>>537252467there were fat people they just didn't force them on you in advertising . People understood fattys, especialy fat women, where something nobody wanted to see.
>>537259427>processed synthetic fats work on the same neural receptors as drugs.nope>The statement is partially accurate but imprecise: while certain fatty acid-derived signaling molecules (such as endocannabinoids and prostaglandins) bind to specific neural receptors, processed synthetic fats in food do not directly act as drugs on these receptors in a clinically equivalent manner. >Endocannabinoids and Prostaglandins: The brain produces lipid-based neurotransmitters like anandamide and 2-AG from dietary fatty acids (e.g., arachidonic acid). These bind to CB1 and CB2 receptors (G-protein-coupled receptors) and prostaglandin receptors, modulating pain, mood, and inflammation. >Synthetic vs. Endogenous: Processed foods may contain synthetic additives or excess saturated/trans fats, but these do not typically mimic the precise molecular structure of endogenous ligands like anandamide to activate CB1/CB2 receptors with the same potency or selectivity as pharmaceutical drugs (e.g., THC or NSAIDs). >Indirect Effects: High intake of processed fats can alter membrane composition and enzyme activity (e.g., COX/LOX pathways), indirectly influencing receptor sensitivity or inflammation, but this is a metabolic and structural effect, not direct receptor agonism like a drug. we know from double blind tests that fat causes insulin resistance. this is really old news. i'll link it again so you don't have to search for my other postshttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1394223/?page=1>They effectively give you a low-grade buzz. If you stop eating seed oils or any type of vegetable oils you will literally have withdrawal symptoms similar to opiates.lol none of this is true, and you have no proof at all of this, or any of your other claims.
>>537260746Additionally it’s been scientifically proven that ultra low residue foods that are primarily digested in the small intestines enter the bloodstream faster causing larger glucose changes and insulin resistance. Not to mention this can cause slower motility throughout your digestive track and lead to gastrointestinal and colon issues. You need to make sure that you get natural fiber. It’s also been scientifically proven that sugars encapsulated in milk while the same sugar as anything else, don’t absorb in the same ways in the gut due to the additional material surrounding the sugar itself. Therefore natural sugars occurring in something are different than refined extracted sugars put into something. So doing extra work is in reality just doing the normal amount of digestive work you’re supposed to do as a baseline anything less causes health issues in a variety of forms.
>>537252467The slop they ate was mostly cooked in beef fat aka tallow
>>537261318Al-Sabbah, Sameer, et al. "The Addicted Brain: How Processed Foods Hijack Reward Pathways." Journal of Neuropharmacology and Dietary Behavior, vol. 14, no. 1, 10 Jan. 2026, pp. 45–58. SOCHOB, www.sochob.cl/web1/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/The-addicted-brain-How-processed-foods-hijack-reward-pathways.pdf."Food Addiction." ResearchGate, reviewed by Clinical Neurochemistry Forum, 16 Mar. 2026, www.researchgate.net/publication/384360805_Food_Addiction.Gordon, Ashley L., et al. "What Is the Evidence for 'Food Addiction?' A Systematic Review." Nutrients, vol. 10, no. 4, Apr. 2018, p. 477. PubMed Central, pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5946262/.Martinez-Gomez, Elena, and Sofia Garcia-Anaya. "Binge-Type Eating Disorders and Ultra-Processed Food Addiction." Neuroscience and Biobehavioral Reviews, vol. 162, 20 June 2025, article 10567. PubMed Central, pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12231405/.Volkow, Nora D., et al. "Linking Drug and Food Addiction: An Overview of the Shared Neural Circuits and Behavioral Phenotype." Frontiers in Behavioral Neuroscience, vol. 17, 12 Sept. 2023, pp. 1–15. Frontiers, www.frontiersin.org/journals/behavioral-neuroscience/articles/10.3389/fnbeh.2023.1240748/full.
>>537253458I have a tuna melt the other day... I don't think they're uncommon.
>>537259539no, omega six is not poison, holy shit>Recent large-scale meta-analyses and systematic reviews indicate that omega-6 fatty acids, particularly linoleic acid, are beneficial for cardiometabolic health when consumed in recommended amounts (5–10% of total energy). Contrary to earlier theories linking them to inflammation, current evidence shows that higher omega-6 intake is associated with reduced risks of coronary heart disease, stroke, and type 2 diabetes, as well as lower all-cause mortality. >Key findings from recent research include:>Cardiovascular Protection: Replacing saturated fats with omega-6 polyunsaturated fats significantly lowers LDL cholesterol and reduces the risk of heart attacks. A global meta-analysis of 150 cohorts confirmed that higher dietary and circulating omega-6 levels correlate with lower cardiovascular disease risk. >Inflammation Myths Debunked: Studies published in 2023–2024 demonstrate that omega-6 intake does not increase systemic inflammation or oxidative stress. In some cases, it may even reduce inflammatory markers, challenging the notion that high omega-6 consumption drives chronic inflammation.>Cancer and Mortality: Higher omega-6 intake is linked to a reduced risk of certain cancers and lower all-cause mortality, although associations vary by cancer type. The benefits are most evident in healthy populations, with less clear evidence for those with pre-existing health conditions.it's not only the fat, it's the protein which causes inflammation, reduced insulin sensitivity, arthritis and heart disease. the acidic load from the amino acid breakdown causes bone to be sacrificed to offset this ph imbalance. your blood ph needs to stay rock solid or you drop dead. to prevent this, your body uses citrate and other substances to cancel this out. the result is high blood calcium, which causes deposits all over the body, kidney stones and arthritis.
>>537261318Like I said I’ve helped hundreds of people become healthy through these methods. None of these methods have been disproving and are endorsed by real Doctors. Read through Dr. Jason Fung’s series of books who is a Canadian specialist with the focus on the kidneys and liver. He spilled the beans on all your propaganda. Next you’ll tell me the Covid vaccinations were successful, and they didn’t count people with one shot as unvaccinated, kek.
>>537259591no it hasn'tand anon was looking for cheap food, not top shelf hipster shit. you are literally killing people with that advice, and it is astronomically expensive, the opposite of what he requested.you cope morehttps://youtu.be/VnXuDHqkSPwmastering diabetes is intersting because if their advice was bad, then both they and their clients would be dead. they both did keto to control their diabetes, and made themselves really sick. one was even a big weston a price foundation fan. but they found out the hard way that while it seems to work for a while, longer term it really messes you up. keto's really bad simply for the reason that it appears to work.
>>537261565Omega-6 fatty acids are a classic example of an essential nutrient that turns toxic when consumed in modern industrial quantities. You absolutely don’t want to consume more than 3% of your caloric intake from fats high in Linoleic Acid (LA), aka polyunsaturated fatty acid (PUFAs). You’re extremely disingenuous which shows everyone your intent.
>>537252574This coming from the country that eats fucking frogs legs and snails.
>In 1983, the FDA accepted HFCS as "generally recognized as safe," and that decision was reaffirmed in 1996.
>>537261792Everything I’ve said here is covered in his books. You can’t refuse any of this because it’s all cutting edge biochemistry debate topics. You’re essentially presenting your opinion pretending it’s empirical fact while stroking your ego helping no one. Which in my book makes you a piece of shit.
>>5372596921/4 tsp of borax in water per day stabilizes sex hormonesit's an essential mineral, but not really recognized as suchhttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4712861/read through this article, it's amazing. i started doing this after messing my hands up doing concrete demolition with rivet busters. they are all metal, it's like beating your hands with a hammer all day. this can cause lifelong problems and nerve damage, as well as millions of microfractures. a couple of weeks doing that and i felt a lot better.
>>537261855Safe for shareholder profit margins.
>>537262000I’m speaking from personal experience and the experience of hundreds of people around me that I’ve helped. I’m not cherry picking weird scenarios to try to kill people like you are. You’re a very disingenuous person that has egotistical issues and probably needs to do some soul-searching to figure out why you need so much attention from other people.
>>537261792No one said anything about doing pure keto. That’s what you said. I said to focus on single ingredients from trusted sources. Cook your own food know what you’re putting in your body. I gave some of the outline structure that makes sense to me hoping others can connect to it. Of course anyone can come in and dissect in certain aspect of anyone’s argument using for profit scientific studies the United States government produces through its food industry to try to make a counter rebuttal and that’s exactly why we’re in the situation we’re in today where 75% of Americans are overweight and sick. It’s not because they’re lazy as you suggest. The food is literally toxic.
>>537260473>Fine grain ends up taking a complex carbohydrate and be behaving like a simple carbohydrate like sugar because it’s overly refinedsugars do not make you fat. do i need to link the proof again?the issue with flour in the us is that it has bromine in it, which harms your thyroid and takes up the place where iodine should be. sugar does not cause diabetes, fat and animal protein does, and i've linked to the proof. you just keep making assertions and acting like your anecdote beats research. >muh coarse flourthey ate fine milled flour all the time. it's even in the bible, fine flour was used in offerings and sacrifices.>White potatoes are out completely if you’re already metabolic is broken (fat).this is the exact opposite of the truth. there is no proof of this, and the opposite is true and proveable. we know this because people have been put in metabolic wards and given potato only diets for years, with only health improvements.https://youtu.be/v60u4plA1TAthe kempner rice diet was used to cure all kinds of chronic health problems, like hypertension, heart disease, and type 2 diabetes. this is a massive sample group, mind you. almost everyone who has lived on this planet has eaten a diet of almost entirely starch. this is still the case for most people around the world. epidemiology shows us they are healthier than their first world counterparts. if eating lots of rice made you fat, you would expect to see lots of fat asians, especially before 1980 when meat eating was super rare in china. instead, we see that all of the people who eat lots of fat, dairy, and meat have the worst health outcomes. this alone shows that you are on the wrong track. have you had an ultrasound lately? that will show you all kinds of things that bloodwork can't. like fatty liver, which you get from being in ketosis all the time. you are still fat, it's just not abdominal fat, it's visceral, the most dangerous
>>537261318>fat causes insulin resistanceCorrection: grass-fed fats actually improve (increase) insulin sensitivity, whereas grain-fed fats and industrialized fats cause insulin resistance.
>>537253744This. Every aspect of the American diet is intended to make us as physically ill and unfit as possible so nobody can ever rebel. Nobody can start a revolution if all the gun owners are obese diabetics.
>>537262806>sugars do not make you fat.Never said it did. Another one of your signature strawmans. Sugars are one part of the story. They cause glucose spikes which causes insulin resistance. This breaks your metabolism and causes ravenous hunger that causes people to overeat. Additionally these hormonal metabolic changes reduce your basil metabolism which is another cofactor for weight gain.
>>537262806>sugar does not cause diabetes, fat and animal protein doesCorrection: grain fed animal fat and protein cause stealthy insulin resistance which results in diabetes. As pointed out grassfed animal fats and proteins improve insulin sensitivity. You’re as the Irish say, eeediot!
>>537252467Everyone smoked like chimneys in the 70s.Smoking is an appetite suppressant. Yeah, they ate a lot of greasy and fatty stuff, but not nearly at the portions we do, today.
>>537257077This. See those sandwiches in OP? That's your dinner. Probably 500-600 calories before the 100 calories of chips or maybe a 150 calorie 12 oz coke. Not "healthy" by today's standards, but it's not all-you-can-eat cheese sticks either.There's a little more to it but that's the gist.
>>537252467They had to physically go to work, usually on foot.They didnt have tons of added sugar in food.The type of work was generally physical.No fucking mobile phones or internet.
>>537260607This. Retards are in here screech about corn syrup and insulin resistance and all this other bullshit. Sure, modern Americans eating literal dogshit doesn't help... But at the end of the day it just comes down to physical activity.As you say, kids spent all their time playing outside instead of sitting on a couch playing video games or staring at their phone like today and that persisted into adulthood. Sure people had TVs, but they had like five channels and a few shows that were only on at specific times in the evening. The rest of the time, they were out and about.And labor was more physically intensive too. Not only did far more people have physical labor jobs, but the jobs they did have were more work. Like go look at footage of old car assembly lines, for example... Workers were constantly lifting heavy cars parts into place themselves, now those same assembly line workers are morbidly obese because they just sit there while a robot does all the heavy lifting and all they do is like attach some screws or some shit.
>>537261408Does it work best with European cheese or murican cheese?
>>537260550>Only pharaohs and high luxury refined foods cause these issuesyou mean meatthe treatment for type 1 diabetes in egypt was a high sugar diet, with lots of fruit and honey.>The Ebers Papyrus (c. 1550 BCE) prescribed a mixture for "too great emptying of the urine" that included green dates, elderberry, fresh milk, and sweet beer>>537260779>WHO also tries to say that salt causes bad health outcomewe are not relying on the who for these amounts. they recommend them because of the overwhelming evidence that supports this conclusion. did the who change the amount of protein in breast milk?the effect of salt on blood pressure is transitory.i'm not the one relying on appeals to authority, you are. and you are appealing to your own authority, which is pretty cringe.>I don’t think anyone America is getting traditional corn juice or sugarcane juicedefine traditional. nobody drinks glasses of corn juice as tradition. as for sugar, the table sugar you buy in the store is cane sugar. you extract the juice from the cane, and let it dry in the sun. bingo, sugar crystals. they are dried cane juice.>>537261142>You have a narcissistic way about your responses. Anything you can do to prove that your ideology is correct however most of your posts end up being weird rebuttals instead of actually helping people out which means you’re simply chasing an egotistical dopamine hit.wow, accusing me of what you're doing, awesome. you know what's narcissistic? going off half cocked, making shit up and then telling others to do it. now you are trying to psychologize the fact that everything you said got fact checked. and providing evidence as to why one should pursue one avenue rather than another is perfectly valid>all you have is prooooof lol>>537261367it actually causes higher rate of gastric emptying but ok. and you have no studies or you would link them. you are very shy to provide evidence other than your say-so.
>>537262806>fatty liver, which you get from being in ketosis all the timeSo he’s just saying random things that aren’t true now at this point.>For the record: fatty liver occurs because the liver is overwhelmed by dietary sugar—specifically fructose—before it ever enters the bloodstream. Unlike glucose, which can be burned by every cell in the body, fructose must be processed entirely by the liver. When you consume excess sugar, the liver is forced to activate an emergency pathway called De Novo Lipogenesis, chemically converting those sugar molecules directly into fat (triglycerides). When sugar consumption is chronic, this fat production line jams, trapping the fat inside the liver cells and causing fatty liver disease, which eventually destroys liver insulin sensitivity and forces the organ to continuously dump unneeded glucose into your blood raising blood sugar.
>>537253744I was alive in the 70s and the only snack you ever got was when you went to Grandma's and she let you have one mint or one cookie. A bottle of coke was a gift at holidays or when you went around and collected enough beer bottles in ditches to buy one. People graze 24/7 now. You didn't see women driving around with their 4 cups full of corn syrup Cardi B edition Lucky Charms coffee to their office jobs on top of the low fat muffins and protein donuts they were already going to eat this morning. They'll be 1800 calories in before noon and then say they dont eat that much.
>>537263279Sorry dude, you're a fucking retard. Omega 3:6 ratio is 100% meme nonsense, it has absolutely no relevance at all. Every study that claims to show a benefit from a higher 3:6 ratio is doing so by lowering the omega 6 intake of the "good ratio" group. The benefits are purely from reducing PUFA intake period. Ruminants saturated PUFAs in their rumen, which is why grass fed vs grain fed makes almost zero difference in fat composition. Your retarded image is using percentages because the actual numbers are in mg. Its less than a gram in all 3 cases, it does not matter at all. All beef fat is almost entirely SFA and MUFA, the PUFA is a tiny fraction.
>>537263582>it actually causes higher rate of gastric emptyingThere’s a phenomenon in leaky gut syndrome where you essentially develop massive inflammation and a mucus layer down your gastrointestinal track where you absorb nutrients. This essentially develops with leaky gut in parallel and eventually your stomach and intestine have a reduced capacity to absorb water due to inflammation and the mucus layer. When this happens it causes diarrhea. A lot of people that eat fast food daily experience daily diarrhea due to this phenomenon so in this situation you’re right it would cause you to empty your bowels faster. This proves my point that you can dance around realities as much as you want using different structures but actually say nothing which is exactly what you’re doing. You must work for food science industry or part of a shareholder program that makes a lot of money from making people sick. So much so that you have invested interest in misleading people.
>>537252467Welsh Rarebit
>>537263818>Sorry dude, you're a fucking retard. Omega 3:6 ratioIts about maintaining natural levels of inputs and balances. And in that light it’s important. You can’t supplement your way out too much omega-6. And once again you’ve taken a small nuance and tried to argue it to throw everyone off what really matters. You’re a very disingenuous piece of shit.
>>537263818Apologies I thought you were the other Canadian anon. Please disregard my pos statement.
>>537263818If you read the thread you’ll see that we both agree. Healthy foods tend to come in a 2:1 ratio. Pay for science has come up with a concept of supplementation to try to balance this out artificially when in fact you should be looking for foods that naturally contain that ratio which indicate they are healthy and balanced.
>>537260000>protein is the least important macro of all. Is this nigger serious?
>>537264361That anon is trying to kill people
>>537261398first study:The concept of addiction, traditionally confined to substances such as drugs and alcohol, has expanded toencompass behavioral patterns such as compulsive eating. Emerging evidence suggests that ultra-processed foods(UPFs), particularly those high in refined sugars and saturated fats, may elicit neurobiological responses akin tothose observed in substance use disordersit's the combination of fats with sugar that causes dopamine release, not some special attribute of processed seed oil that is inherently addictive. notice they said saturated fats, not polyunsaturated fats like seed oil.2nd article>The evidence further suggests that certain foods, particularly processed foods with added sweeteners and fats, demonstrate the greatest addictive potential.ok, fats and sugar together again, as fat is known for over 100 years to cause insulin resistance in both humans and animals.3rd one just shows what we already know, that fat and sugar, along with food additives specifically designed to be addictive which are also in cigarettes, cause these changes. there is nothing about hydrolyzed anything causing issues, or that seed oil acts like a drug moreso than other fats. all of these binge eaters ate ultraprocessed foods, not oatmeal with fruit or potatoes with ketchup.these studies do not prove your thesis, and i think you know this, and didn't expect me to look at them>>537261607now you are just going ad hominem, with low iq black and white thinking. i know of fung, he was the reason i did a lot of fasting and fucked myself up from it. fuck him and anyone like him. he is an md, they have zero knowledge of nutrition. zero. calling clinical controlled studies propaganda doesn't make them incorrect.the reason i like mcdougall is because he had devoted his life to curing people through nutrition and has the receipts to prove it. he's done tons of research on this.
>>537252467>half a tuna melt with 6 potato chips on a plate>why were there no fat peopleReally, Anon?
>>537264523>i know of fung, he was the reason i did a lot of fasting and fucked myself up from it. fuck him and anyone like him. he is an md, they have zero knowledge of nutrition…So you’re a women then? You lost a bunch of weight became estrogen dominant and blood anemic because of heavy cycles and you blame him. I agree he should warn women of this problem. My wife had the same issue fem-anon.
>>537252467Who the fuck wants 5.5 chips you dumb cunt fetch the fucking bag, and the pickles too
>>537264178No, we don't. You are fixated on a ratio of one toxin to another that does not matter at all. You can not balance it with supplements or food because there is no balance. Its like insisting you need a specific lead:cadmium ratio in your diet. Heathy foods contain the lowest levels of polyunsaturated fat possible.
>>537264778Hey anon. READ what I’ve written. I’ve already said the same exact statement multiple times.
>>537253600Pop? You Pennsylvanian heathen, it's called soda.
>>537252467it's the sugar not the fatfat can build up and clog your arteries but it doesn't make you fatsugar does, it's empty calories too so you still crave more food to cover the deficiencies
I keep hearing that people with low incomes have to eat slop.Couldn't they just eat fruit and vegetables? Are those expensive in some countries like the US? Unless by poor they mean homeless and can't cook ofc.I'm seriously asking btw not trying to imply anything or blame anyone.A solid poor man's diet in Spain could be (imo):Protein:4-5kg of chicken a week.SardinesVegetables:Potatoes, onion, carrot, eggplant, red and green pepper... with most mealsDesserts:Milk, yoghurtOrangesWatermelonThis would be very affordable although of course not as cheap as living on ramen. But certainly as affordable as slop.
>>537265003A lot of people in the US don’t cook. A lot of people here think convenient processed food is a shortcut when in fact there are no shortcuts, only compromises which result in health issues down the road.
>>537261815>Omega-6 fatty acids are a classic example of an essential nutrient that turns toxic when consumed in modern industrial quantities.define modern industrial quantities. and i love the scare words, modern and industrial, like those are inherently bad things.all of the data shows that seed oils are not only superior for health, but that animal fats are terrible for you. if they were as bad as you shills say, then everyone who ate them would be sick. but we see the exact different scenario in the data. >You’re extremely disingenuous which shows everyone your intent.more dark triad stuff. you are accusing me of what you are doing. you don't like being questioned, so you freak out and start insulting me and trying to play the room.>You can’t refuse any of this because it’s all cutting edge biochemistry debate topics.oh ok then>You’re essentially presenting your opinion pretending it’s empirical fact while stroking your ego helping no one.again, accusing me of what you're doing. while fung is correct on calories in calories out being nonsense, he is incorrect on most other things. this is because it's like a plumber writing a book on violin making, and using his credentials to buttress his spurious conclusions.fasting makes you fatter long term, and causes all kinds of stress on the body through release of cortisol. it trains your body to store fat, because you keep starving it and sending it into emergency protocols. i've been there, done that, got the calcified aorta to prove it.>>537262061no u>>537262237>Of course anyone can come in and dissect in certain aspect of anyone’s argument using for profit scientific studies the United States government produces through its food industrynews flash, the meat industry bought out rfkhttps://www.newsweek.com/experts-behind-new-food-pyramid-ties-beef-dairy-industries-11328283>nonononono no lissen bad man he bad bad bad
>>537252467No soibean oil in food to raise their estrogen levels.
>>537265003in some places extremely expensive but from when i was there the problem isn't so much lack of ingredients as lack of skillmaybe cos the state of their schools idunno but almost every american i've ever known has been incapable of cooking anything that wasn't preprepared
>>537265140Anything over 4% of your total diet is modern industrial quantities femanon
>>537259017They still fried their fries in lard instead of goybean.
>>537252467They ate less and walked more
>>537252467They smoked like chimneys. Their Ozempic of the time. Then they did coke in the 80s
>>537265140So many strawman arguments I should open a feed shop!
>>537252467instead people had high cholesterol and died of heart disease before they made most food basedbean oil.
>>537265003>Couldn't they just eat fruit and vegetables?Nobody has time to sit down and eat 1,800 calories worth of fruits and vegetables.
>>537252467Jews weren't yet in control of the food.
>>537265180unless you live near an ocean, most your PUFAs are gonna be Omega-6.
>>537252467>all fit, how come?A lot more manual labour jobs back then, in the UK many walked to and from work, or bicycle.Food was basic and better back then.
>>537263576I like the English cheddar I get from Costco on mineUnless you get some craft cheese, all the cheese here is garbage that should not even be considered a proper food
>>537263737Fatty liver is a condition that heavy alcohol usage causes. The exact opposite of ketosis, that guy might be legitimately retarded
>>537263279>grassfed animal fats and proteins improve insulin sensitivityagain, it isn't the fat, it's the animal protein. i'm not linking the same study post after post because you're a narcissist.>>537263040yawn>white potatoes are out if you are fatsugar does not cause insulin resistance, which i also said and you ignored.>>537263737https://youtu.be/rF1LHOD43GQhttps://www.drmcdougall.com/education/common-health-problems/liver-disease-hepatitis-and-liver-failure/>The treatment of liver disease is primarily with a low-fat, low-protein, high-complex carbohydrate starch-based diet started early–long before liver failure is advanced. A healthier diet will relieve much of the burden on the diseased liver, since a large part of the liver’s function is to metabolize excess proteins, cholesterol, fats and additives from the diet. The low-fat quality of the McDougall diet helps relieve the fatty infiltration stage of the liver disease; there is a gradual disappearance of fat from the liver in four to eight weeks along with the improvement in diabetes and weight loss following the introduction of the diet. Progress can often be measured by reduction in the liver enzymes, SGOT and SGPT, seen by blood tests.>A person with liver failure must be as kind to his or her body as possible primarily by avoiding toxic substances and making food choices that are not excessive in fats and proteins. Low-sodium may be important in advanced liver failure to reduce fluid accumulation.>Because all foods are naturally plentiful in protein it is often necessary to make-up as much as half the diet from “empty calories” foods in the form of simple sugars such as white sugar or corn syrup in order to dilute the protein content of the starches, vegetables and fruits to a tolerable level.hmm, fatty liver TREATED with a high carb, high refined sugar diet. over and over and over and over and over again.
>>537265360most people are not actually in a calorie deficit, in fact the thread is about most being too fatthey could get chicken and potatoes and just fill themselves from that
>Why was there no fat people in 1970? It seems like they ate a lot of oily slop too. But they were all fit, how come?Poor nutrition leads to gluttony. If you eat carbs you're effectively eating human cattle feed. Foods are less nutrient dense then they were 50 years ago. A tomato contains only 20% of the nutrients it had not long before the 70s. tl;dr Jewish agriculture and fast food empires know exactly what they're doing.
>>537253672You nailed it, bro. I’m in my 30s and I have to use panty liners because my diet causes anal leakage. My father never wore a panty liner.
>>537265699stop eating slop or you will die from ass cancer
>>537252467A thick slab of Bermuda onion slathered in Wesson oil was a popular sandwich in some parts of the US back then.
>>537263917the diarrhea is from excess cholesterol. it causes explosive diarrhea.>>537264361>>537264408>i seen your cuntnotice how all the people telling you that you need tons of protein are also the ones who do tons of steroids, then claim it's their diet or supplements that are the key to their success? like rfk, rogan, dr shawn faker. https://youtu.be/fFExu5vde6cthis girl is great, she does all kinds of videos fact checking the doctors that claim to have knowledge of nutrition. she has a masters degree in human nutritionyou should look into it. papua new giunea highlanders only get 3% of their calories from protein. it doesn't provide energy, and excess protein is very hard for the body to eliminate. only fats and carbs do. do you have any kind of argument besides a skeptical face picture? or anything to add to the discussion?short versionhttps://youtu.be/f-gQqKzs5Vwlooong versionhttps://youtu.be/_KvyAylxBkQ
>>537265699what the fucki know you're most likely joking but if this is for real you need to stop it with the slop. like do not eat one more fucking pre packaged thing, or with anything in it other than the one ingredient. dont even have it at home. if you live with your parents, try to convince them to not have it.and specially nothing with added sugar or salt no matter whatthis is fucking retarded. i've never been to your country but i looked up walmart and they have proper food.
you only see the topfit modelsthey probably lived more healthy in other ways dressed more fat spprppiate, maybe didnt consume so much
>>537265699>My father never wore a panty liner.not that you know about
>>537264646making things up about me again, the only way to win for amerifats. the most confident liar is elevated to leadership roles.>>537265180calling me a woman doesn't make me wrong and you right. it just makes you boring and out of ideas/tactics>>537265231and they had much worse health than they do today. 1950s people were not healthier at all. that's the whole point you studiously avoid.>>537265323oooh, non specific complaints and well poisoning. full bingo card today.
>>537254284baby formula
>>537253808>industrialized foods.Sugar turns to fat.
>>537265699Wtf>Deeply goncerned.jpg
>>537265315yeah thought this too
>>537257357I've been eating 1-2 meals a day for years, occasionally fast, have a manual labor job where I'm constantly moving, and I lose maybe 1 kg a year.Despite still being 20 lbs over weight.The reality is it's something in the food. I've seen multiple people say when they lived in Europe, they never felt like they had to watch their diet.
>>537266062I don’t eat a lot of processed foods actually. During the week I do eat McDonald’s or Taco Bell for lunch. And I eat hot pockets 4-5 nights a week for dinner. But for breakfast I usually have pop tarts. They are healthy as they contain fruit. Then it’s just simple foods like potato chips and Cheetos, but nothing processed. I gave up beefaroni and pizza rolls.
>>537266011>papua new giunea highlanders only get 3% of their calories from proteinAnd they are 5'2" with an IQ of 75 and engaged in regular cannibalism until they were forced to stop That is a very bad example
>>537265699quintessentially confederate-land post
>>537261842You mean the country with the best food on earth? You sounds like a sneeder who never ate snails even once in his life lol.
>>537266437Oh you're just taking the piss. I hope
>>537266595Your standard grocery store food is what we have to pay ultra premium prices forIt's kinda ridiculous honestlyI didn't like wine until I lived in Spain, and then I realized I just didn't like California wine
>>537253672Low Carb is the solution. No Sugar too, is best. Carnivore Diet/extreme Lion Diet will help your body heal in a few months to reduce Alzheimer's/Stroke risks. Of course, like anything you can have a cheat day...but it want to live a better more healthy life and feel better - go low carbs.Meat / Fish mostly. Animal products only. It sounds boring but you adjust very fast and you feel better.
>>537266740Low Carb is training your body to live off fat and protein and not carbs...Much better. And take out the sugar, that will reduce cravings. I am a senior citizen and if I can do it; so can you.
>>537266472womp wompcorrelation does not prove causation>Papua New Guinea highlanders have a mean height of approximately 164.6 cm (5 ft 5 in), which is significantly shorter than lowlanders whose mean height is 168.8 cm (5 ft 6.5 in). >Key phenotypic differences include:>Statistical Significance: The height difference is statistically significant (p = 0.001) even when corrected for age and sex. >Adaptation Context: This reduced stature is hypothesized to be an adaptation to high-altitude hypoxia (low oxygen), where energy is prioritized for organ oxygen transport over physical growth. >Comparison: This trend mirrors other high-altitude populations, such as Tibetans and Andeans, though the specific mechanisms in PNG highlanders also involve larger lung capacity and higher hemoglobin concentrations.and height is mostly heritable, barring any other influences. mcdougall raised all of his kids vegan, and they grew up to be taller than him, and he was over 6 feet tall. his grandkids are the same, as well as top athletes in their school. makes sense, he was the diet coach for olypic gold medalist . he won 9(!!!!) gold medals, one silver, and 10 world championship medals.>Carl Lewis adopted a vegan diet in July 1990 at age 29, a decision he credits with extending his career and enhancing his athletic performance. He transitioned from skipping meals to maintain weight to a plant-based nutrition plan that included fresh juices and high-calorie plant foods to fuel his training. >Lewis claims this dietary shift led to his best year as an athlete in 1991, when he set new world records in the 100-meter dash and the 4x100m relay. He emphasizes that a vegan diet allows for better weight control, faster recovery, and sustained energy without the need for animal protein. >While initially vegan, Lewis now describes his diet as mostly plant-based, having maintained this lifestyle for over 25 years.
>>537266740https://www.drmcdougall.com/education/information/five-major-poisons-inherently-found-in-animal-foods/>Because these highly sensationalized nutrients are always plentiful in basic plant foods, illnesses from deficiencies of these nutrients are essentially unknown, as long as there is enough food to eat. Thus, there are no real nutritional advantages to choosing red meat, poultry, dairy, and egg products with an especially high density of one particular nutrient. Ironically, milk and cheese are iron deficient, and red meat, poultry, and eggs (unless you eat the shells) contain almost no calcium. >Focusing on the abundance of an individual nutrient accomplishes an even more insidious marketing goal; it diverts the consumer’s, and oftentimes the professional dietitian’s, attention away from the harmful impact on the human body of consuming all kinds of animal foods. In my 42-years of providing medical care I have never seen a patient sickened by eating potatoes, sweet potatoes, corn, rice, beans, fruits, and/or vegetables (unspoiled and uncontaminated). However, during my everyday practice I have witnessed (just like every other practicing medical doctor has) a wide diversity of diseases, including heart attacks, strokes, type-2 diabetes, arthritis, osteoporosis, and cancer, from eating fresh-killed and/or collected, as well as processed and/or preserved, animal-derived foods.
>>537253929I mean irl. Used to eat it.
>>537254915Lol no shit just havent thought about since 70s.
Sugar.
>>537267343but muh protein!!!>Once your protein needs are met then the excess must be eliminated from your body, primarily by your liver and kidneys. You can notice an overload of protein by the strong smell of urea in your body sweat and urine. The work of eliminating excess protein takes a toll even on healthy people. On average, 25% of kidney function is lost over a lifetime (70 years) from consuming the high animal-protein Western diet.1,2 For people with already damaged livers and kidneys, consuming excess protein will speed up the processes that lead to complete organ failure.3-7 Excess protein damages the bones. Doubling the dietary intake of protein increases the loss of calcium into the urine by 50%, fostering the development of osteoporosis and kidney stones.8>The most recent report (for 2007 to 2008) on the epidemic of obesity in the US finds 33.8% of adults obese with 68.0% of all adults overweight.9 Dietary fats are almost effortlessly stored in your body fat.10 When consumed in excess, dietary fats also result in a surplus of fats stored in your liver, heart, and muscles. From all this over-accumulation, insulin resistance develops, contributing to other health problems, including heart disease, strokes, and type-2 diabetes.11 The extra pounds you carry around cause damage to the joints of your lower extremities (osteoarthritis). Excess fat in your diet and on your body alters your cellular metabolism, promoting cancers by many already discovered mechanisms.12>Cholesterol is only found in animal products. As an animal, you make all the cholesterol you need. Unfortunately, your capacity to eliminate it is limited to a little more than the amount you make. As a result, the cholesterol added by eating animal foods accumulates in your body parts, including your skin, tendons, and arteries. Cholesterol deposited in your arteries is a major contributor to vascular diseases of your heart and brain.13 Cholesterol also facilitates cancer development.14
>>537267532>Overconsumption of sulfur-containing amino acids (for example, methionine) will cause you many unwelcome problems.15 Most noticeably, sulfur stinks, like rotten eggs, causing halitosis, body odor, and noxious flatus. Methionine is metabolized into homocysteine, a risk factor for heart attacks, strokes, peripheral vascular disease, venous thrombosis, dementia, Alzheimer’s disease, and depression. Sulfur feeds cancerous tumors and is known to be toxic to the tissues of the intestine. Sulfur-containing amino acids are metabolized into sulfuric acid—one of the most potent acids found in nature.>After ingestion, your body must neutralize the over-abundance of endogenous dietary acids in the animal foods you eat. Your bones are the primary buffering system of your body.16-20 They counteract these dietary acids by releasing alkaline materials (carbonate, citrate, and sodium)—thereby the bones dissolve. Acids from animal foods also raise cortisol (steroid) levels in your body.21 An excess of steroid is another mechanism for further bone loss. The net result from this chronic acid poisoning is kidney stones and osteoporosis.
>>537252467less artificial ingredients were added to the food back then
>>537266890>I am a senior citizennigger, just say "old fuck" over here
>>537267215>Womp womp>Correlation isn't causation>The Flynn effect can't real guysI didn't read anything after that plebbitismBesides it's clearly just copy paste kikipedia
>>537253458>Lol fuck!>1971 here.Why do you talk like a gay millennial redditor?? >made my day!kys nigger man
>>537252467less sugar
