I think we're all in agreement about Covid vaccines but what about the other ones? DTaP, Meningitis B, MMR, Pneumococcal etc... There seems to be a strong polarisation on this topic, does the truth lie in the middle? It is highly probable vaccines contribute to auto-immune and neurological disorders including autism and ADHD but to what extent? Do some vaccines have enough merit to tip the Risk vs. Reward balance in their favour. Do certain shots have better Risk vs. Reward profiles? Are there any of you moderates out there? Or is it all or nothing...
>>537259426vaccines make goyim retarded so jews can rule over goyims easier.thats pretty much it.
>>537259963If it makes you stupider does it atleast reduce the odds of death from disease. If so, would you trade a few IQ points for it?
>>537259426all vaccines are anti-human, just take chlorine dioxide. no negative side effects and cures just about everything.
>autism and ADHDCaused by parasites and toxins. Chlorine dioxide is the solution.
They are all poisons. Vitamins are poisons for the people who didn't fall for the drug poisons BTW.And viruses don't exist, bacteria do, but disease is not transmissible.
>circumcised, have hair follices up to my circumcision scar>50+ vaccines from new york hospital birthI feel like a mutant, I'm a blonde blue eyed chad and all I want to do is curl up in a ball in a corner and cry at what I've been made into
>>537259426Yes.Execute all people who wish to force vaxxinations onto others, especially when they do it to children.Self-defense and defense of third parties is not murder under any state's law.
>>537259426>gash me leg>hop on bus to get to hospital>indian mother onboard, doctor back home helps me out >hop of bus at hospital>emergency room tries to stick a mask on me>leave bleeding out>ask paramedic if i need a stitch, say nah>bleed for a couple hours outside the timmies>fugg i probably need a stitch>go back to hospital, find another paramedic, ask her>resentful, on break- stick that leg up for me in lustful tone, yeah you need a stitch>go back to emergency room, adorn the mask>your due for dtap tetanus, i go cold>mcafee said "the vaccine">scared shitless, fuck, keep mulling it>necrotic female corpse enters waiting room, begins v2k on me, asks "what i want">may or may not pass out here from struggling to breath in mask (never worn one until now>praying to God, i say family, like wtf.jpg>get stitches, goes very well very professional>another nurse comes in later with dtap>shoves a liability waver between my legs a inch from my dick and looks in my eyes to sign>wtf am i doing papers in the er .jpg i aint reading this shit im taking hospital space>nurse reads my anger as brushing off her sexual advance, shes livid>wearing longsleve, ask if i should take it off as the sleeve tightens the arm>no thats fine>air jabs my arm, more than half syringe contents on the paper on the bed>wtf.jpeg, you can go>no alochol disinfectant, no bandaidI gave them a chance op and got burned, no more needles, no more health"care"Better to meet ones end with dignity
>>537260309>does it atleast reduce the odds of death from diseaseno, it introduces chronic diseases
>>537260309>does it atleast reduce the odds of death from diseaseLol... No. The poison needle spreads disease.
>>537259426First of all: the Covid jab is not "vaccine". It's an experimental gene therapy.With vaccines we know that the immune system can handle the antigen, their adjuvants however remain problematic.Effectiveness of vaccines in general leaves to be desired and may only be justified in specific cases not to be administered en masse.With gene therapy jabs we don't control where, how much and for how long the antigen is synthesized in the body and what damage it does to inner organs, how the modRNA alters the DNA, the immune system etc. All my predictions became true. It was never justified to expect a different outcome. It's the greatest crime against humanity ever. Globohomo is a psychopath.
>>537259426I think the oldest vaccines for diseases that intrude through the hell-portals the Jewish liberal demons have opened to the turd world lean toward a larger combined benefit to the individual and broader population than the risk of not being vaccinated. Anything produced in the last 30 years is psuedo-science, manufactured to make a gazillion dollars. I knew it was bullshit when I was a child and was forced to get 5 Hepatitis B vaccines. I got my kids vaccinated for the early childhood stuff and have told their doctor the vaccination schedule is up to date after my eldest was 6. No flu shots, no Hep B, no jab, fuck all that, fuck 90% of the medical industrial complex.
>>537265643The problem is anon even the old tride and true vaccines are being constantly modified. DTP has been around since the 50s then DTAP in the 90s. Now it's a 6 in 1 with heb B and Polio included. More antigens but apparently diminish the quality compared to the sum of its individual parts.
>>537264356Calvary church is so fucking gay. The entire Episcopal and Angelical institution is fraught with heresy, manipulated by Kikes to lead the righteous into Apostasy. I went to a Lutheran combined congregational service and this fucking Calvary demon masquerading as a female preacher opened up with a meaningless land acknowledgement for a plain tribe that passed through our area 300 years ago, then the sermon degenerated into psuedo-pagan earth spirit worship. They read verses around 2nd Corinthians 12, which illustrates the trinity while using the natural world as examples of God's gifts. She called on people to raise their hands and ask what it meant to them and not a single Boomer got the point of the verse. I ended up blurting out, "It affirms the Lord, Jesus Christ of Nazareth, the Word made flesh, and the Holy Spirit are all faces of the same God" and the bitch rolled her eyes at me because she wanted everyone to take away this, "like God is just nature, maaaan" perspective. If God is just nature why would we go to Church? Just forsake the suffering of our martyrs and saints while you're at it, lady.Being a 4th century Christian in the 21st century is a tiresome affair.
>>537266231You're not wrong. I have become more anti-vax in recent years and probably would've foregone vaccines altogether, had the Coronavirus plandemic turned me into the question-everything type before my children had gotten vaccinated.
>>537259426DEATH JABBERS FOR GLOBOHOMO
>>537266541Yeah had I been born 10 years before and we were having this conversation in 2016 I wouldn't think twice about following every doctors recommendation. Now idfk what to think, the integrity and trust has been broken I can't just outsource this decision. It doesn't really help the anti-vax crowd don't have the greatest optics, but currently I sympathise with their position much more. This is a really hard position for a new parent
>>537259426>what about the other ones?"We performed a retrospective analysis spanning ten years of pediatric practice focused on patients with variable vaccination born into a practice, presenting a unique opportunity to study the effects of variable vaccination on outcomes. The average total incidence of billed office visits per outcome related to the outcomes were compared across groups (Relative Incidence of Office Visit (RIOV)). RIOV is shown to be more powerful than odds ratio of diagnoses. Full cohort, cumulative incidence analyses, matched for days of care, and matched for family history analyses were conducted across quantiles of vaccine uptake. Increased office visits related to many diagnoses were robust to days-of-care-matched analyses, family history, gender block, age block, and false discovery risk. Many outcomes had high RIOV odds ratios after matching for days-of-care (e.g., anemia (6.334), asthma (3.496), allergic rhinitis (6.479), and sinusitis (3.529), all significant under the Z-test). Developmental disorders were determined to be difficult to study due to extremely low prevalence in the practice, potentially attributable to high rates of vaccine cessation upon adverse events and family history of autoimmunity. Remarkably, zero of the 561 unvaccinated patients in the study had attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) compared to 0.063% of the (partially and fully) vaccinated." - ["Relative Incidence of Office Visits and Cumulative Rates of Billed Diagnoses Along the Axis of Vaccination" (2020)](https://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/17/22/8674)
>>537259426>what about the other ones?"The implications of these results for the net public health effects of whole-population vaccination and with respect for informed consent on human health are compelling. Our results give agency to calls for research conducted by individuals who are independent of any funding sources related to the vaccine industry. While the low rates of developmental disorders prevented sufficiently powered hypothesis testing, it is notable that the overall rate of autism spectrum disorder (0.84%) in the cohort is half that of the US national rate (1.69%). The practice-wide rate of ADHD was roughly half of the national rate. The data indicate that unvaccinated children in the practice are not unhealthier than the vaccinated and indeed the overall results may indicate that the unvaccinated pediatric patients in this practice are healthier overall than the vaccinated." - ["Relative Incidence of Office Visits and Cumulative Rates of Billed Diagnoses Along the Axis of Vaccination" (2020)](https://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/17/22/8674)
>>537259426>what about the other ones?"A total of 18,468 consecutive subjects met eligibility criteria for the study, of which 1,957 had no exposure to vaccination and 16,511 had received at least one vaccine during their enrollment in the plan with various levels of exposure. After multivariate adjustment, Cox proportional hazards modeling demonstrated that exposure to vaccination was independently associated with an increased risk of developing a chronic health condition (HR 2.53, CI 2.16-2.96). Of the chronic health conditions, exposure to vaccination was independently associated with an increased risk of asthma (HR 4.25, CI 3.23-5.59), autoimmune disease (HR 4.79, CI 1.36-16.94), atopic disease (HR 3.03, CI 2.01-4.57), eczema (HR 1.31, CI 1.13-1.52), and neurodevelopmental disorder (HR 5.53, CI 2.91-10.51). There were no chronic health conditions associated with an increased risk in the unexposed group. The overall probability of being free of a chronic health condition at 10-years of follow up was 43% in the group exposed to vaccination and 83% in the unexposed group." - ["Impact of Childhood Vaccination on Short and Long-Term Chronic Health Outcomes in Children: A Birth Cohort Study" (2025)](https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/Entered-into-hearing-record-Impact-of-Childhood-Vaccination-on-Short-and-Long-Term-Chronic-Health-Outcomes-in-Children-A-Birth-Cohort-Study.pdf)
>>537267635Had anyone been able to outsmart an LLM on this issue? chatGPT seems to be a massive shill for the vaccines.
Don’t give a shit, didn’t read, never jabbing. Pump my moderns bags Ebolachan or hantachan whoever shows up first