The appeasement MOU with Iran will be seen as a defeat of the US and a sign of weakness and as such will invite more instability and wars in the years to come
>>537270382my guess is around major chokepoints as well. Suez, panama, Bab el-Mandeb, Strait of Gibraltar, Cape of Good Hope.
>>537270510Those will be the major confidants that we will whach in the news, but without an active hegemon to be the defacto guarantor of international order we will see many bloody "minor" conflicts as preferential shitholes get bold and start grabbing territories from neighborsAlso secondary powers trying to reassert themselves as proper empires and aiming to be the next hegemon
>>537270382Who cares? It was over. The entire global economy and with it most civilizations would collapse with that passage closed.>US and a sign of weakness US is weak. What the hell would you call a country that does this:>export all your manufacturing>import scab labor>outsource all of your tech to a bunch of 85IQ Indians that lied on their cv>indebt your own people to the financial elites>propagandize them with slop on tv/breadtube>replace the monetary system with pure fiat petroshitdollar>prevent your youth from gaining any status or stable income (le no 8 years of experience with AWS Kubernetes)>have a workforce that needs to deal with constant periodic layoffs>spend a trillion dollars on surveilling the population>have your elites spend their time doing satanic shit on a Mossad agent's island
>>537271797>Who cares?you when you realize that Iran now knows it can just close the straight any time and have it's demands granted, in effect gaining control over the policies of those civilizations and when secondary powers like Russia and Turkey make more moves over Europetough you already drank from the thirdwolrdist coolaid
>>537270382You don't understand. We lost the war. We have no choice but to sign a "shitty deal." that's what happens when you LOSE.
>>537270382take the "L," favela zioturd
>>537272345I don't think you've contemplated the consequences of leaving that strait closed for even a few months. Hope you've stockpiled enough food for yourself, your friends, and any of your hungry neighbors that come knocking. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUO51DoSEqkThe deal will could fall through over the next few months. You may live to see this war reach it's ultimate conclusion.>drank from the thirdwolrdist coolaidNo I've drunk from the having enough food in the grocery story koolaid. Living here might not guarantee a stable income, retirement, etc., but at least I can go to the grocery store and buy some food even if the in-store grocery prices are too high. If the strait closes you will unironically see pic related in OP or worse (pic related).>you when you realize that Iran now knows it can just close the straight any time They knew that already. They planned for this specific war after they saw the Iraq war unfold.
>>537270382>zog has become weakergood>enemies of zog and israel have become strongergood
>>537272895you only lost because dispite all the power you prove yourselves unwilling to do what it's needed to win
>>537273115Yeah? I think we lost because we had inferior weapons and tactics.
>>537270382>The appeasement MOU with Iran will be seen as a defeat of the USWill be? it IS.On top of the total surrender, the Iran regime will now get bragging rights that they defeated the US and proved that America CAN NOT defend anything.The humiliation of the US is complete.
>>537273115The US lost because they outsourced all of their manufacturing, had no real IRL manufacturing to sustain a long conflictAlso if the US/Jews really wanted to remove Iran as a threat all they had to do was integrate it into the global economy, while funneling degeneracy into the country via social media. There would have been an only fans e-thot on every street corner in Tehran. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC0so8FN5oYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q0z8wLJzIIUnironically the war in Iran might have the opposite effect and cause the religious extremists/traditionalists in Iran gain more power.
No. The entire Trump era will be regarded as an outlier - the time America let a mook from Queens steal his way to power and act like Caligula-lite.
>>537273115You wanted the US to do what? Literally nuke Tehran and firebomb cities ww2 style? Put boots on the ground?The bulk of the Iranian military power is secure in underground bunkers, you can't touch them easily, and just the 24/7 air surveillance operations needed to try to catch missile/drone launchers in the open proved to be too expensive relatively to the effect they caused.Boots on the ground is a no go currently, you kow that.It's because of retards with that same conception of military power and hubris that the US put itself into this unwinnable position.>>537274943>Also if the US/Jews really wanted to remove Iran as a threat all they had to do was integrate it into the global economy,We already learned from china and russia that all that does is strenghten them.
>>537275471>We already learned from china and russia that all that does is strenghten them.No it doesn't. Doing that to China (funneling degeneracy into the country and forcing them to trade with the West) caused their century of humiliation. It led to a civil war inside China that killed more people than WW1 with some chink almost starting a religion where he's the reincarnated brother of Jesus.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq_Hr3XjMiQChina recovered when we moved our manufacturing to China to save money on wages. The US built that country back up to screw their own workers.Secondly China is not a threat in a real sense to the Western elites. It's keeping wages low in USD and therefore increasing profits. The plan is working exactly as intended. Russia is disconnected from the global economy today. It's self sufficient, with enough resources and manufacturing production to wage a war against Ukraine. Russia experienced a humiliation in the 1990s. Putin was a bit smarter than Yeltsin (sold Russia's economy to Jews for pennies on the dollar) and decided not to completely screw over the country's infrastructure. Had the Soviet Union collapsed and they went into complete isolation mode under a leader like Putin with no intermediary like Yeltsin, they would be the same level of threat to NATO/West that they are today.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9YnDirqwT4
>>537276336>No it doesn't. Doing that to China (funneling degeneracy into the country and forcing them to trade with the West) caused their century of humiliationYou are mixing thing up, I'm talking about opening them to global trade, it used to be the theory that increased wealth and open markets would automatically lead to less opaque and autocratic forms of government, which is essentially what you proposed for Iran, but this theory has been proven unreliable with China.>Russia is disconnected from the global economy today. It's self sufficientComplete nonsense, their modernized armed forces were built on the wealth and tech acquired from heavy trade with the EU and the World, they still trade heavily with their allies namely China, Iran, NK and other countries.
>>537276814> it used to be the theory that increased wealth and open markets would automatically lead to less opaque and autocratic forms of government, which is essentially what you proposed for IranYou're mixing things up too. Part of the reason Iran is a threat to Israel is Iran's elites are religious. If the religious elites are replaced by more secular ones (autocrats or not), they would be less likely to interfere in Israel's wars. It's not that difficult to pacify and demoralize them over a few decades. You know how Israel broadcast porn while conducting a military strike.Modern state of China was also not demoralized this time. America's elites wanted China to become the manufacturing center of the world. >Complete nonsense, their modernized armed forces were built on the wealth and tech acquired from heavy trade with the EU and the World, they still trade heavily with their allies namely China, Iran, NK and other countries.How do you explain the effectiveness of Iran's hardware (missiles, drones, etc)? This shit doesn't require high tech from the west as long as you have competent people responsible for designing and building the hardware. In contrast America's MIC is focused on scamming the government.
Also modern day China is less of a military threat to the West than if an ideologue like Chairman Mao with China's nuclear arsenal was still in charge today. You have pragmatic autocrats in charge of China today.
