It doesn't matter how much you bitch here, unless birth rates go up, the only solution is mass immigration from countries where the birth rate is high. With other words:African countriesMiddle Eastern countriesIsraelhttps://strawpoll.com/jVyG2GMO8Z7
>>537284215For a Muslim country your post is very jewish
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>>537284215That dress is gold.
>omg the birth rates are too low, Whitey, we need to import millions of pajeets or we won't survive!!!Die
>>537284316Then present a realistic solution.Who's going to do the work without any kids?Who's going to pay taxes?Take care of the elderly?You can't do shit without new people.
>>537284215>record low birth ratesThe jewish psychological attack feminism.
>>537284215Or we put all efforts to increase the birthrates and in the meantime automate whatever the fuck we can
jews need to shut the fuck up, forever
>>537284409how many children have you fathered?
>>537284215Why would we want to increase population when we have too high of a population? We've been told by the experts for generations that population was too high. If anything we should be nuking all third world shitholes to reduce global populations.
How will immigration solve the problems associated with low birthrates when most of these third world migrants are a net loss to the economy?
>>537284215Low birthrates happen because young people cannot afford to buy a house and don't have access to stable forms of income to meet the demands of women.Women outline their requirements for dating and sex. Women say you need to own a house, have a six figure income, be 6 feet tall and have a 6 inch dick on top of a sports car.The average man simply cannot afford that, therefore the birthrates collapsed. If men get what they want and it meets the demands of women, then the birthrates go up.Otherwise, we need to take away women's rights and social media for women in order to have any positive effect on women's demands.The last thing you want to do is replace a population with poo eating shit skin animals.
We can just have less people. Nations are not corporations, they do not need to chase perpetual growth. For that matter, corporations shouldn't case perpetual growth either, it's completely impossible and unsustainable.I DON'T CARE IF LINE GO UPI DON'T CARE ABOUT GDPI CARE ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE
>>537284386we need lots of feces on the roads. but not near the synagogues or jew neighborhoods though
>>537284215>unless birth rates go upHas this ever even been advertised or any action taken by the state to enact this? Seems like they just went straight for immigration before even giving anyone a chance to rectify the actual issue
>>537284215We can just repatriate swedes and other nordics/germanics back to Sweden. Why would you default to african immigrants?
>>537284468>>537284525>>537284567We all know that Jews are responsible for feminism and its resulting total decline of western women.
>>537284586>Low birthrates happen because young people cannot afford to buy a house and don't have access to stable forms of income to meet the demands of women.Oh really?Is that why the countries with the highest birth rates are the poorest?
>>537284215the only solution to mass immigration is to close all the borders and kill anyone that is pro immigration
They have absolutely nothing to do with birth rates.
>>537284367Based
>>537284641>Nations are not corporationsThis is extremely antisemitic
>>537284215the jewish gdp pyramid scheme requires endless population growth.this is not sustainable we are not agricultural societies anymore.we do not need so many people.but jews demand their fake-money line go up to keep the goyim on their fake-money currency.
>>537284710>Is that why the countries with the highest birth rates are the poorest?If you want to compare niggers to regular humans then why not just compare bunnies with no houses to humans? Hell, why not just compare the birthrates of mosquitos that have 0 income to that of wypipo?You clearly haven't paid any attention to western women's demands for dating and sex. There's no delusions about that where you can point to mosquito populations and say "buy dey iz having keeds".
>>537284215Singapore and Taiwan have low birth rates, why are the streets clean and society high trust while india and africa is literal hell?
>>537284215They'll never be productive so it's a stupid strat.
>>537284641The jewish money power sucks the wealth out of a nation with usury. Then their jewish cultural warfare agents tell women to enter the workforce and abstain from having kids. The jews invented oral contraceptives to stop the goyim from getting pregnant. in advanced societies. The jews then preferentially hire women over men. After wrecking the economy, the jews demand foreign slaves who are cheaper, which compounds the problem and destroys the native population further. It's one big jewish scam, the entire system at ever level is bullshit.
>>537284215Only solution to what? I don't care about the GDP
Yep turns out politicians were briefed on this inevitability 2 decades ago. Without a steady stream of immigrants alot of european countries would already have started to visibly depopulate.
>>537284215We don't need (((high birthrates))) thoughbeit. With less people there is less demand and more resources. A generation or two of shrinking is actually beneficial, (((unlimited growth))) is nigger tier behavior and is also impossible.
>>537284693the decline of women everywhere their jewish media monopoly and political influence can reach
>>537284215Solution to what, you stupid fucking nigger?>Oh no, muh boombooms dying>population shrinks by 25%>25% of houses for sale. Cheap and plentiful!>a couple stores have to close or shrink (who cares)>malls fuck off cuz no boombooms crowding the food court. Turn that space into something useful>oh no, Goldbergstein's line on graph no go uppy-up as good as it did>I don't fucking careRemove pajeet. Pillow Boomer. Buddiesraum. Out for a Reich, are ya, bud?
>>537284215I don't think birth rates need to go up if all the niggers are eradicated.
>>537284409What work? There are hardly any good jobs left at least in America. How we can need all these workers while at the same time having a shit ton of unemployed people makes zero sense
>>537284409Why does the "work" need to be done at all?
>>537284654>Seems like they just went straight for immigration before even giving anyone a chance to rectify the actual issueWorse is that they all know the issue but pretend that the issue doesn't actually exist and just go to .... birthrates are low and therefore we need mass migration of poo skinned animals.
>>537284954You forget about the elderly. Who's going to take care of them?
>>537284981Based leaf
every major problem has the same common root source
>>537284981This would be the practical solution, but we are run by Jews which default to the worst outcome.
>>537285027They don't matter
>>537285011>There are hardly any good jobs left at least in America.Define "good job".
>>537284215War changes everything turdy, and war is in the air.
>>537284215>African countriesDeclining fast>Middle Eastern countriesMost will reach 2.1 tfr by the end of the decade>Israel Outside of hasidic Jews and Arabs, our avg tfr is 1.7
>>537284641we can repatriate anglo-saxons and scots back to the UK. just say that's what england wants to do and have some programs to get them back to work and housed. if you can do it for mohammed and nigbobo you can do it for john.US will lose its shit. they can't afford a white exodus
>>537284409This is a deception. You are literally taking care of massive amount of immigrants who never contribute to society. Who's going to take care of them? "WE NEED MORE PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE!!!!"The real solution would've been to take care of our people ourselves and create incentives for natives to have children before our countries were flooded by scum from shithole countries.All of our countries, the centuries it took to make them, have been sacrifice at the altar of very short term economics. It's the most disgusting manipulation that has happened in the history of the world. It has always been presented as "inevitable". It never was. Younger generations were brainwashed by boomers before they could gain enough awareness to stop the insanity. Now all countries are connected to the system in a way that there is no democratic solution because democracy is a complete illusion of voting to move pieces of paper around the table and nothing else.
>>537285157A job that pays for a house and can support a family which is also stable enough to last more than a 2 year contract.
>>537284215> Mass immigration is unavoidable due to the record low birth ratesOr, you know…>population could go down>housing could become affordable>jobs could pay more
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>>537285024Because work creates productivity, and productivity creates wealth.
>>537284215>INDUSTRY AND "MUH GROWTH" MUST BE PERPETUAL AND ALWAYS INCREASINGNo. You dumb nigger. Industry, production and "growth" will follow the population, come wax or wane. You have it all on the head. I don't think most of you fucking understand these incredibly simple things. Which is insane.
>>537284981"No way a 80 million people country can survive with only 65 million people or a 5,5 million country with 4 million people."
>>537285221>Now all countries are connected to the system in a way that there is no democratic solution because democracy is a complete illusion of voting to move pieces of paper around the table and nothing else.Correct. We're rapidly approaching if not already crossed the line of a political solution being viable. Berlin was 71% white in 2011. London is now 80% nonwhite. There is no system that supports the birthrates of wypipo anymore since the majority of nonwhite invaders will be given all of the resources for "short term" economics.The one simple thing of not taking care of your own people and incentivizing young wypipo to have good jobs that can support a family has caused far greater damage than any nuke ever could.
>>537284409>Who’s going to take care of the elderlyGood question. Who is? Are you saying the uneducated immigrant hordes are going to feed and bathe grandma? Is a Somalian going to give you a quality treatment in your twilight years?
Demonkike Paul Ehrlich told every goyim who would listen not to have kids. He scared innumerable people who have no awareness of the jew into not having kids on the basis that the world would fill up with too many people.
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>>537284215If you need water and lack water, only a ruling class retard would decide to then make it as hard as possible to dig for water and instead at great expense import mineral oil and tell people to drink tjat instead.
>White goyims - have 0 kids>nigger monsters - have at least 4 kidstypical demonkike propaganda
>>537284367>>537284753Silence, mutt goblin
>>537285313What wealth?
>>537285313Wealth for who? Trillionaires and multi-billionaires? Look around you, man. People can’t afford houses. They can’t afford school. They can’t afford bread and milk. Children are on antidepressants because they don’t see their country having a future for them.And yet despite all this, our countries are wealthier than they’ve ever been in history. None of that wealth is getting to us. You’ve fallen for trickle-down economics. You think a high GDP means a high quality of life.
>>537285557>climate hoax is going to get you goyim>no kids goyims
>>537285449>>537285557It's always up to a coincidence which pictures are completely full of white people and not even a single nigger.
>>537284215It's white and gold.
>>537284215but, why?
>>537285313Most "work" is do nothing jobs shuffling paper that exist simply to keep people inside.Jewish daycare is an apt descriptor of modern "work".
>>537284409We have way more than enough food and shelter to go around.
>>537285533The ruling class retard in this case is the Rothschild family who funded Cleon Peterson recently to make "art" depicting brown people genociding wypipo. So it's not out of stupidity, but out of hatred and ego.
>>537285568The same jews who have done everything imaginable to depress the native birthrate are now demanding flood of unwanted alien niggers to pay for the national debt that they charge interest on to our corrupt jewish supremacist government.
>>537284215low birth rates are happening everywhere and the only places that are still above for now are the absolute lowest IQ places on the planet.Mass migration is not a solution to anything but to destroy one's country, I don't know about other ones but in my country it is proven that migrants don't offset shit all in terms of economic gain, they're useless in that regard.niggas just need to accept that there's going to be an economic decline and no retirement other than death for millennials, zoomers and so on.
>>537285628Do you know how money is created? By productivity. Or did you think someone just keeps printing money?
>>537284215if jews need "workforce" then they should just move their shit to africa, in fact that should be their next deportation destination
>overpopulation hoax - don't have kids>climate hoax - don't have kids>feminism - don't have kids>birth control - don't have kids>now lets import infinity unwanted niggers
>>537285841With the internet, most of their unwanted niggers could work remotely. However, the point is to use immigration to replace us in our own countries.
>>537285806Fucking kike, I can't eat paper, I can't drink it, I can't use it to build a house. What fucking use is paper to me when my entire race has been exterminated by degenerate rabid parasites like you? Sure I could have a million dollars, but there's no fucking point when all my friends are dead, housing costs 2 million and rapebabies are about to burn my house down
>>537285841They can't move their operations to Africa since the intended "workforce" is meant to get money from whitey and spend a some globohomo slop corporations as well as real estate owned by Jews/rent. They print money and give it to shit skins which is simply money "laundering" into Jewish hands.
It's one big bullshit jewish system, wrecking our countries.
>>537285806>Or did you think someone just keeps printing money?That's actually exactly what happens.Am I being trolled?
>>537285924>the point is to use immigration to replace us in our own countries.no shit retard, that's why they should all just be killed, there is no need for any increased capitalism, birthrate fluctuation is fine, just keep all the niggers and kikes out and everything will be fine
>>537285841Chinese already got there, and the places they’re not in already have ghoulish Zion-plantations like the child slaves growing chocolate.Westerners go to Japan and get depressed. Westerners go to China and get depressed. Why? Because they can see those countries are still what they’ve always been. In 100 years, China will still be China. Japan will still be Japan. Their people will still share a heritage with those who came before, a beautiful link that goes back generations.Can you see Sweden being Sweden in 100 years? America? Those countries will still be going through a demographic crunch, but without anybody that once called that country a “nation.”God, please just kill me now. I wish I was born Chinese.
>>537284316SHUTUP MUTTBITHC>>537284367TRVKE
>>537286045If they are killed, then how is the mysterious line supposed to go up? WHO will take care of the boomer that didn't have kids?
>>537285684Don't start itIn this video it's just a normal blue and black
>>537286032If you keep printing money without productivity, you'll end up with massive inflation ala Venezuela.
>>537284215What worthless kike shit. I don't need niggers. You are a paki who seethes because Whites don't want you. I won't cease to be able to drink water, eat food, or have shelter because no niggers. You aren't needed.
>>537284215>mass immigrationmass immigration is caused by boomers, large corporations, business owners, landlords, and politicians who want to hoard wealth and transfer it among themselves.>low birth rateslow birth rates are caused by the fact that people who are able to reproduce often cannot afford to, due to a lack of money and resources to provide for a familynothing will solved unless the wealth hoarded by wealthy starts flowing down
>>537286176The ground can take care of them. There is no reason to financially or socially support those that allowed this to happen
>>537286178>implying
>>537286223That’s exactly what happened you blithering idiot. My money now is like 30% less valuable than it was in 2020, yet wages aren’t any higher to account for it.Because of retards like you who insist we need more workers, more labor, more productivity. Less workers would’ve meant I was paid more for what *I* produce, but now we’ve got a billion Suhkdeeps that work for peanuts which suppresses my income and forces me to live like them. I’ve become third world.
>>537286269>low birth rates are caused by the fact that people who are able to reproduce often cannot afford to, due to a lack of money and resources to provide for a familyBut... but... when we look at bunny populations they are able to reproduce massively compared to wypipo! Explain how bunny populations are able to explode with an income of 0!
>>537284215Weird no it's not, we could just subsidize native child care instead! What now kike?
>>537286337That's not massive inflation.
>>537284215You're literally retarded OP. I dont think you opened this thread in good faith anyway but you're just making it clear to everyone here that the narrative you're talking about is for subtards.It is a manufactured problem. Muh low birth rates is the excuse globohomo uses to bring immigrants to divide our communities so that we won't unite against them when they move forward with their plans.I bet you're triple vaccinated and double boosted. You seem to accept globohomo premises with no question and then find yourself in the middle of pointless debates.The world sees through narratives while you're sitting there discussing if we should shut down society for 2 weeks or 3 weeks.
>>537286337It's even worse than that. They assume that magically as income goes down birthrates are supposed to go up.
>>537284215Why do we need 20 billion people? For a system that requires a constantly increasing population, you say? What a terrible system that's doomed before it even starts.
Low birth rates is the solution.Becoming like India or China is the problem.We’re full. Pool’s closed.
>>53728626999% of people who ever lived were extremely poor and owned nothing but still had kids even during famine or war. It's the most gay psyop ever how "unless I get my degree and pay off my mortgage, I can't afford to try even one child".It's not a wealth thing, no one (kid) is dying for not having shelter or food or basic necessities. But there are 1000 other psychological and hormonal reasons and selfish reasons like having so many (perceived) options instead of having kids. All of these override reasons like "I need to be really wealthy and have paid my mortgage or else", but it's more interesting how they override very primal drives to have offspring. How much do you have to abuse some person to not have kids, but then multiply the abuse so it's 50% people having zero kids.
>>537286462Why 20 billion? Why not 200 billion like Elon and Vivek were touting?
>>537284215Not my problem / nothing I can do about it. Post more of her.
>>537284409Here is my solution - We dont need constant growth and Id rather the jewish (((economy))) take a loss then be surrounded by fucking shitskins
>>537286569>99% of people who ever lived were extremely poor and owned nothing but still had kids even during famine or war. It's the most gay psyop ever how "unless I get my degree and pay off my mortgage, I can't afford to try even one child".Wow this is so insightful! 100% of women today set the parameters for when they have births, therefore being dirt poor and an excuse no longer works.You're never going to convince women today to fuck poor men unless it's a nigger.
>>537286462>a system that requires a constantly increasing populationIt doesn't. That is a common antinatalist+socialist urban legend.Capitalism requires constantly increasing purchasing power only (demand).You could have a declining population and GDP growth at the same time.
>>537286352when people grow up with a certain standard of living, they usually don't want to go back to a lower one. also, more educated demographics tend to delay having children because educated people often make more deliberate, rational decisions about their lives
>>537284215>the only solutionOR, we could just let the bottom fall out of the economy. after all, low birth rates aren't a problem in and of themselves per se, it's just got second-order issues attached
>>537286569average life expectancy in holodomer was like 5yo
>>537285568Did we ever find out if coffee was good for you?
Look, our current society simply isn't worth saving. It's the same as the roman empire collapsing, or why nazis could take over germany, nobody competent cared enough to stop them.Whoever wants it will take over.
>>537284215What problem are you solving by importing niggers who can't and don't want to fill the place of white people? The birthrates are also not nearly as low as you imply.But you are a KIKEand you should kill yourself.
>>537286842>holodomerNever happenedAnd if it did the Ukiepigs deserved it
Why are low berth rates a bad thing? Who's bottom line does it benefit? Cope they can all stay in their homelands and be forced to evolve or die. They're only coming here to be slaves. If they give us 30 years without your jewish neggertry and we can ( Try thrice again ) to teach the how to Full-Human. Because importing legal retards is retarded and you deserve to get burned with your pet 3rdies when the local's start burning
KILL THEM ALL
>>537286763A lot of anons don't understand this point even in this thread. It should be obvious to them since women outright tell them what they demand.Yet these retards look at nigger populations exploding like bunny populations and suggest that wypipo will magically do the same as they become poor (i.e. maintain the status quo and make things even worse by importing infinity niggers).
>>537286897>What problem are you solvingdebt capacity mostly
>>537286721>You're never going to convince women today to fuck poor men unless it's a nigger.Yeah we have noticed. On the other hand, I will never work another day just for the hopes of pussy, because other people get it for free. I can work for other reasons and even enjoy it.Let's play the "women are poor high empathy victims" game and ask why is almost every woman on constant birth control pill once they start menstruating. That's one of the most taboo subjects never mentioned or "found in study".They have barely been able to stutter that "m-maybe men and women don't have their wishes met on tinder and the relationships are too short" without fearing that they'll be put on cross.
>>537286569there were no reliable contraception, so fertility was chosen than defaultalso, how many kids used to survive out of 5, higher child mortality led to more births, gotta have that insurance >it's not a wealth thingpeople avoid children when the system makes family formation harder to combine with their desired life stability
>>537284215birth rates would increase if the native population werent being tortured under the jew world orderthis is all intentional and part of white genocide
>>537286569I don't know what it's like in finland, but here in the states they'll ring you dry the moment you start having kids. That shit adds up fast and the moment your wife stops getting the things she feels entitled to is the moment she abandons you and marries the state and takes the kids with her.The vast majority of men are better off not playing by the feminist state's rules. It's not about the lack of money, it's about tye ability for the state to exploit the citizen so easily. During the tzarist russia era the state would take young Jewish boys from their homes and indoctrinate them into the tzars army. Those same jewish boys are what made the backbone of the Soviet dumma.
>>537287053>Yeah we have noticed. On the other hand, I will never work another day just for the hopes of pussy, because other people get it for free. You answered this question yourself in a stupid way. Birthrates depend on women. Women control whether babies are born. If women reject men based on economic reasons then the birthrates go down.It's not about empathy. There's no reason to include "but my birth control".If women are the ones that control birthrates and they priced the average man out of reproducing, then it's obvious what the net outcome will be. If a man isn't highly paid and the system suffocates their career on top of siphoning wealth to the top, then we end up where we are today. That's the root cause.Instead of understanding that simple mechanism, even you still seem blindsided to the idea that magically taking away money (we have none) will result in birthrates going up like niggers/bunnies.
>>537287161Curiously, people still saw life worth living even if only 4 out of 7 children survived past age 5.And they must have had some concept of contraception or some hunch about "sure days" or vice versa, because I don't believe women back in the days were pregnant 25 times from 15-40 or something. Maybe they had 10 pregnancies if not each was successful, who knows, but it's not like living in famine was the normal thing even back in the days.
>>537284409>Who's going to do the work without any kids?You don't have to do as much work if there are less people. Less houses to build and maintain. Less farms to build and maintain.>Who's going to pay taxes?Less people means less people using services. >Take care of the elderly?There will be less elderly people to take care ofAfter ww2, during the baby boom. We transformed our economies into giant pyramid schemes that rely on more and more people being born. We made assumptions that turned out to be wrong. There is no reason our economies can be structured differently. This isnt the only way of doing thing and its clearly not the best.
>>537287053>why is almost every woman on constant birth control pill once they start menstruating.I-its for their skin! Not because they want consequence free cummies.
>>537284215Why cant we just let the population go down?Might solve some of the wealth inequality issues.
>>537284215They're replacing all our jobs with robots. They don't need pajeets too.Stop taxing the working class, let women stay home and be mothers instead of being slaves for Mr. Shekelberg and the birth rate will go up.I'm not buying the argument that we need to import more consumers when we're not paying our working class enough to afford families. You want consumption to go up pay your damned workers.
>>537284215
They wont delete the bank because you dont eant to birth slaves for it. Your ancestors fought two world wars to keep these banks alive, and dangummit we ain't throwing it all away just cause you stopped having babies
>>537287337Women's expectations were different (due to limited female rights) and marriages were enforced at a young age.You keep pointing to the past without understanding the underlying mechanism while pretending that it must be that being poor like niggers + bunnies = high birthrates.It's genuinely a comedic skeptical to behold.
>>537284710that's patently false anyway Pakistan and India birthrate is falling they're poor as fuck totally dumb they have arranged marriages rape the whole /r9k/ groomed dream and they're not getting any better first because it's unsustainable in any way whatsoever and would extremely drastically fall if "globalism" stopped like the strait being closed shown Brainless morons from your group just repeat the same 10 argument in circle hoping no one ever challenge them Africa is over populated because western countries give them free food free cloth free healthcare, and don't promote (yet) the pills, hedonism, and materialism it's going to come soon enough they're getting access to "social medias" slowly
>>537287420OY VEY ANYTHING BUT INCREASING THE PAY! LINE MUST GO UP!
>>537284215Wrong. Robot slaves mean we never needed mass immigration at all. We can just decrease in population (gasp) and still be prosperous
>>537284917Why is that a bad thing?
>>537287430All those things are because of da joos. Stop blaming people with no agency and thus no responsibility.
>>537286569you're comparing two completely different systems. historical high fertility wasn't just about mindset, it was about early marriage, weak contraception, high child mortality, and children being economically usefulmodern low fertility happens even in wealthy societies (forget about w/e bs we're currently experiencing) because children are no longer necessary for survival and instead compete with education, housing, and career structure
>>537287486>they're poor as fuck totally dumb they have arranged marriages rape the whole /r9k/ groomed dream and they're not getting any better>See access to social media + internet and Indian women creaming over wypipo
>>537287585>ID JOs I mean
>>537287247Not sure if they can 100% just take the kids and stay living in your house in finland, probably not as extreme as in parts of the usa. But everything is still in the mercy of if women want to keep the family whole, the exceptions are psychopathic abusive men who keep the woman on leach by all means including death threats. If it's a normal family, woman has all the cards.>>537287271I was merely pretending and I fully understand that women are the bottleneck in every single way because their whims determine how many pregnancies happen. They make studies where they poll men and women and when it says stuff like 50% of men and women are lonely/without a partner. The answers are stuff like 100% of the lonely men say they can't find a consenting partner and 100% of the women say they don't give a shit about the available men as in the other side of coin in these polls.I was just thinking out loud that why is it such a taboo for these studies to look into all women eating the Pill. It's close to a similar taboo to study on as male circumcision.
>>537285011There are a shitton of jobs for skilled workers.If you are unemployed it is literally a skill issue.
That’s just what they tell the Goyim
>>537284316He's right
>>537284215>Mass immigration is unavoidable due to the record low birth ratesThat's the jew propaganda narrative, yes, but that's not the truth.
>>537284215Force white bitches to have kids. Problem solved. Their freedom of choice is literally killing the west so let’s just revoke their rights.
>>537287401I don't think they even want anything if they are like 11yo and immediately some adult tells them to take these.
>>537287641I honestly don’t believe you. Here’s the part where you call me an idiot but you’re not convincing anyone here. I can confirm I’m right because you’re using the most classic Jewish fallacy ever created, “if you can’t make it in this economy, you’re a sucker.”
>>537287569severe labour shortages, declining fiscal revenue, rising costs of labour thereby lower exports, forced urbanisation, swathes of territory being abandoned and becoming hazardous
>>537287569>Why is depopulation a bad thing?Its good for workers. Wages go up, property prices go down.Its bad for employers and landlords and for a government that wants more GDP for more tax revenue.
>>537287588 meant for >>537287337
>>537287637I don't think the pill is that important relative to the demands of a modern society and women's expectations.Birth control was merely a factor that was extending an issue that was already getting out of control, like adding fuel to a fire. If birth control is taken away from women, the only thing that would realistically happen is a small bump in the birthrate while women will go on a turbo rant because they can't get their pussies filled with cum from random aggressive retarded males in dirty night clubs every weekend.
>>537286747This
>>537287767>oh no muh exports and fiscal revenue!Quick! Swing open the borders and import infinity niggers!
>>537287767What you’re describing is money in my pocket and a cheap house.
>>537284215Subhumans have negative value. The west would be better off without.
>>537286096>>537284215>>537284367vishnu, shiva, brahma, indra, ghanesh and hanuman tongue my balls in submission
>>537287821>>537287822It's never about only one or two things. But even withing this extremely dystopic society, no one forces women to at the Pill and some women stop eating them and notice changes. Or change their diet etc and suddenly they want kids. I'm not saying it can be reduced to one or two things no matter what, but when have you last read a study where they say there might be ANYTHING wrong with all the women eating pills and no babies?I realize we agree that the reason it's a taboo stems from what you said, the feminists would immediately recoil and start a campaign where they scream and threaten to use nukes if they can't sleep around and scream that you want to kill us if there was a study and a headline about the Pill.
>>537284215Explain to me in non Jewish terms why the population needs to be increased with immigrants
>>537284215>you don't understand>you NEED worthless brown niggers like me and to subsidize my entire existence to pay for boomer's pensionsI'M GOING TO KILL YOU AND HANG YOUR CORPSE BY YOUR INTESTINES
>>537288026Anything that changes the endocrine system will result in several changes in terms of mood and general emotions. However, it's not going to magically trigger women into having children at this point.Not only the "feminists" would recoil, but the average roastie in the west would post endlessly about their hatred for men over not being able to get random men to nut in them from Tinder, clubs, etc while spreading STDs like post-it notes.
>>537284215For 50 years feminists and the government's told white people to have less babies because the world is over populated.Meanwhile non whites continued to have families of up to 15 children.50 years later white countries are now being flooded and taken over with non whites. Almost like white countries were set up to be destroyed 50 years ago. The feminists and government leaders involved should be held for treason.
>>537288283>feminists>>537284525
>>537288026bruhh, fertility decline is consistent across countries and across different contraceptive regimesi'm not saying the pill has no effect, but it can't explain a global demographic shift on its own or even be a primary drivereven in places like India and China, fertility has been falling sharply due to economic and structural pressures, things like job stability, income levels, and the cost of raising children, in China especially, people are now struggling to have kids because the economic incentives and stability just aren't there, not because of contraception alone
>>537284215>AI is going to make most jobs redundant >We need mass immigration to do the jobs locals just won't doBoth can't be true at the same time
>>537284383Deep cut
>>537284409A huge amount of "work" is jew daycare or otherwise irrelevant. If there is a worker shortage, then unimportant jobs will be eliminated in favor to important ones, by necessity. This will make the economy much more sustainable.
>>537288414Hence it goes back to my main point. Women decide the birthrate, and their decision is relative to economics that they decide based on their country/culture/etc.Social media and access to the Internet resulted in women globally creating a shared opinion that operates with their innate brain structure which worked on shared consensus.Additionally, a lot of countries have reached their carrying capacities for populations and therefore men simply cannot afford it.
>>537284215>the only solutionThis sounds much like the final solution.
>>537284215Why not just stop importing people and redistribute the wealth inside the country to improve those birth rates?
>>537288262>>537288414We have mentioned many times it's never just a one reason but death by 1000 cuts and we have not even mentioned both men and women playing with phones all day. There's a lot to unpack. We also haven't even mentioned how when being childless wasn't as much of a taboo, it resulted in some people just realizing they can now stop the generational cycle and just stop suffering and moving traumas forward.A white pill is that sometimes even a small thing can result in many children>one woman in social group stops using the Pill>suddenly wants and gets children>other women in group start wanting children and follow the exampleIt's anecdotal but it happens. In this example, the social group of women overrides the globohomo message where they have one full month of infertility festivals etc.
>>537284215White/Asian/Hapa girls who look like that are My Type. HHHNNNNNGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
>>537284215OrGet thisWe stop living based on economic dataReality bending thought right?
>>537284215As a white swedish woman i must agree very muchIndia men are extremely dominant, aggressive and succesfull. I used to be a feminist until i read stories about india rape, and i dont know why but it turned me on. i find footage here on /pol/ with indian men groping women and i got wet very muchnow i realize i want to be white sexslave for dominant indian pimps,, touching my body, boobs vigina....also india men are smelling very nice, know how to dress, handsome white teeth smile, i just feel so soft and vulnuruble when i see them :)
>>537284409>without any kids?There are kids. Less work will be done.> pay taxes?Less taxes will be paid.> Take care of the elderly?Their children.People will just have to live with less.It isn't acceptable to run a Ponzi scam and call it the welfare system.
>>537288699how dare you the economy is the new god don't you dare say anything against their elected representative on this lowly planet the great all-mighty bankers and their rabbis
>>537288550In my country and the discussion forums in finnish, there is a theme where the wealth level and extreme distrust are combined.You need to have a man who you "benefit" from hanging out with to the maximum. But you also can't get together with a man and get pregnant, because in their worldview/projection, the man will hear you are pregnant and the next morning you won't see the man's shoes in the hallway and you never hear from him again. Then you can't work for a decade+ and you are screwed because this is what all men do according to them.I dunno, maybe all the men they date do this. There are two categories: unfuckable men and psychopaths.
>>537288663I don't think it overrides the propaganda from the media and the general culture. Forced consensus depends on the media/social media. Some random women in small groups won't change anything.
>>537288550fertility isn't decided by women in isolation, it's a household outcome shaped by both partners and heavily constrained by economic and structural conditionseconomics is clearly a major driver, countries with very different gender norms and income levels all show the same pattern once housing costs, education length, and work structure changesocial media and internet culture does influence preferences at the margins, but they don't explain a global demographic shift on their own>>537288663i agree there's multiple reasons and that includes social effects like norms and peer influence, but those are secondary layers on top of much stronger structural driversthe consistent global pattern is that fertility drops when education length increases, housing becomes expensive relative to income, and adult life milestones are delayed
>>537284409Populations have gone down in the past and it wasn't an issue. The only reason why it is viewed as a problem today is because the elite have built their wealth on a massive debt bubble which requires constant inflation in order to remain sustainable. That's the true primary purpose of immigration. If population goes down, deflation eventually hits and things become cheaper. Aging population is not the real issue. If it was, we'd only be getting just enough migrants to offset the boomers, a flatline demographic. But that's not what we're getting, we're getting an increase in population every year to keep up with the increase of the debt bubble. Regardless, the entire global population is projected to start going down anyway, so we need to plan for a shrinking population no matter what as even immigration won't be an option anymore once the countries we use as baby factories stop producing them.
>>537288699except its not based on that at all immigration destroys economies or the people they're moving in wouldn't be moving away from their already destroyed economiesbut I don't expect retards like you who can't think in abstractions to understand
Jews want to replace demographics. Only the elites benefit from rising population. So if a nation is "reacting," to low birth rates with demographic replacement it is under occupation by a foreign power.
>>537289035>Populations have gone down in the past and it wasn't an issuwhen popoulations go down, wages increase and housing is more affordable, it's win win winits not debatable
>>537284578Capital cares first about the headcount. Capits. Herd, People-ing.When turds get here, the JEW BANKS give THE STATE the same amount of brrrrrr money per year in funding that they calculated natives were worth securitizing for (the straw man trust). In privately printed irredeemable promissory notes.Jews keep the numbers looking good for growth that makes paying double, triple, quadruple derivative magic usury possible, WHILE also NOT PAYING FOR EXPENSIVE white babies for 18 years. They would rather have 17 inbreds than one white male and so would the booomers.The State and their gangs, the browns and their gangs, the women and their gangs, the banks, the unis, the labour unions, are all happier with the slaves that don't talk back. These groups demand the most worthless fetishes endlessly printed by capital to be satiated, whereas white Men compete with The State to buy real things and drive up the cost of The State to enslave Men.
>>537284215birth rates are low because we are too poor to have kids due to babysitting niggers and shitskins with our taxes
>>537288951It reads that anecdotes like this happen where one or two women in a social group have babies and the other women get exposed to these babies and feel positive feedback. This manages to override the globohomo 24/7 programming in SOME cases. If it managed to do it in all cases, we would not be here.That said, if there are fewer and fewer babies and you have siblings and cousins and friends with no babies and have "never held a baby in your lap", the people have less and less of this positive feedback and end up becoming more and more psychopathic insects.
>>537288973>fertility isn't decided by women in isolation, it's a household outcome shaped by both partners and heavily constrained by economic and structural conditionsMost women in the west are single, anon. Did you somehow miss the obvious?>https://www.oprahdaily.com/life/wholeness/a65479685/why-women-are-single-by-choice/The average woman are holding out for an ideal male which doesn't match the economic circumstances that matches her own economic strata. Couples are a different set of problems related to low fertility and in most cases the woman is dating some guy that pumps and dumps her, however the average woman is single.womp womp.
>>537284215mass immigration is not solution of low birth-rate, forcing people to have children is the solution.go back to your shithole muttslime faggot/jeet.
>>537288973Well at the very least the european countries are not alone in this because places like east asia, south america and even muslim places like turkey and iran are on the same track. Only some pockets of ethnic groups and some african countries have 2,1 or more. That way we can in theory start reducing what things are shared between quite different cultures to get 0,8-1,3 rates. Other than reliable electricity and running water.
>>537289194This is true in general, however, as you mentioned the probability is lower and most women today grow up never holding a baby.
>>537284215>Fleeting pleasure is more important than continuing your civilizationHedonism conquered the nations
Young woman will go out for drinks and fun if they know they won't be raped by migrants. Then wait 9 months. Easy peasy
>>537289352Yeah big patterns in society are not solved by wishing for stuff like "what if someone won the lottery" but it's still an interesting anecdote. What I don't know if in these cases all the women are 29yo or 39yo and suddenly need to have the baby because neighbors had too.One of the thing with the infertility cults and stuff is not always to someone gay or to castrate themselves; it's often enough if you waste their time and convince them to delay trying a child until they are 39yo.
>>537289178Birth rates are low because we'd jsut rather not, it's never been about the money or the decline wouldn't coincide with wealthiest decades so neatly.I guess you can take the tack that transitioning away from agrarianism constitutes a serious loss of self-sufficiency by the populace but that's not the same thing as "wealth"
>>537289221you're focusing too much on dating behavior at a specific moment fertility is all about lifetime partners and bigger structural factors even countries with very different dating cultures like Japan, India, China, and the West, all show the same drop in birth rates, which points more to things like education length, housing costs, work pressure, and delayed adulthooddating dynamics might affect timing, but they don't explain the global pattern
>>537284316look up the family that owns most of the major media companies in Swedenhint : they're fucking Jewish, because of course they are
>>537289059The entire rationale to bring the immigrants is the economic benefits. Many things can be true at once dumbass. Stop being so small. You just wanna reinforce the green line because your imagination can't conjure anything else.
>>537289576>dating patterns>dating choices results in women being unable to find partner because their expectations cannot be met>Magically, we cannot use this is a main explanation because le bad or something
>>537285495do niggers count as "Amerimutts"
>>537284468Jews will regret not spreading birth control to nigger and sand nigger countries first when that's what they'll end up being surrounded by.Also. Japan is doing fine.
Just pay people more Schlomo.
>>537289634i'm not saying you're completely wrong, dating dynamics are certainly a factor, but fertility decline is mainly driven by broader economic and structural changes, not just relationship preferences
>>537284215>low birth ratesKill yourself jew.
The masonic boomer golems want cheap slaves.Nothing else, except for cheap slaves.Unless Jesus comes back and offers the boomers cheap slaves, they will be uninterested in what Christ would have to say. There is nothing that you can do for this species except watch it end. Cheap slaves are more important to the ruling class than comprehending how the universe works. What can you seriously offer to these people to get them to stop exploiting their "brothers" in exchange for more shekels? To stop taking your share of the pie to enrich themselves? You gonna ask politely?They activated 1,000 Mormon FBI agents when that kike golem health insurance scam, con, shell game CEO got shot in the fucking headDenyDefendDepose The god they worship is money.And enslaving other humans, human trafficking, earns them a huge audience with their lord and personal savior $Cash$ You think they give a singular fuck about the birth rates?You think they give a singular fuck what third world shit hole the slaves that live 20 to a room and work for peanuts to replace you are from?You think they give a fuck that 95% of the exploited human trafficked third world replacement economic migrants money gets sent out of our economy through remittance? They not only do not value personal integrity, they use it against you.They laugh at integrity. It's not even a catch phrase or a buzz word to those golem ghouls. Talking about birth rates....jesus fucking christAbsolute socio paths and psycho paths are in charge, and an army of brain dead hypnotized golem Mormon FBI agents will willingly die fighting to protect them while they hurt white christian children on private islandsFucking birth ratesIts never been so over
>>537284409>Who's going to do the worknot the niggers you want to import, they end up on welfare, they shit out kids you have to pay for, they fill up your prisons, all they do is add strain on your social system and shit up the placeyou'd be better off without these immigrants
>>537284409>You can't do shit without new people.Statistically the new people are a burden, they don't pay for shit. Your bandaid solution has failed and now the west is deporting all slave labor.
>>537284493Should just automate everything anyways. And make the datasets for labor public domain for free use. If you can build it you can have it.
>>537288741Fresh off the boat, from reddit, kid? heh I remember when I was just like you. Braindead. Lemme give you a tip so you can make it in this cyber sanctuary: never make jokes like that. You got no reputation here, you got no name, you got jackshit here. It's survival of the fittest and you ain't gonna survive long on 4chan by saying stupid jokes that your little hugbox cuntsucking reddit friends would upboat. None of that here. You don't upboat. You don't downboat. This ain't reddit, kid. This is 4chan. We have REAL intellectual discussion, something I don't think you're all that familiar with. You don't like it, you can hit the bricks on over to imgur, you daily show watching son of a bitch. I hope you don't tho. I hope you stay here and learn our ways. Things are different here, unlike any other place that the light of internet pop culture reaches. You can be anything here. Me ? heh, I'm a judge.. this place.... this place has a lot to offer... heh you'll see, kid . . . that is if you can handle it...
>>537284215If there were only a hundred million humans alive across the planet those hundred million would live lives that would make the current elite vomit green paint from envy, but instead the kikes convinced the entire planet that less people sharing equal resources is awful and disgusting and we NEED an infinitely expanding population unable to support itself as-is. What do these "birth rates need to go up" fags think is going to happen when it hits 10 billion and we have the same amount of space and resources as we did during the resource crisis at 7 billion? What about when the line goes up to 20 billion? 50 billion? What do you line-goes-up tards think is going to fucking happen? For fucks sakes stop insisting this shit is good, it isn't. I wonder what nonsensical talking point the shills are going to use in favor of turning the entire planet into a blood bowl this time. Maybe "you think the world would be happier with less people so you must want to genocide all people", or possibly a "erm, you just want to kill everyone EXCEPT yourself and imagine yourself as the 1% that gets everything", possibly even a "heheh chud, dont you know the planet can fit way more people per square foot than it currently does. You just need to live in the pod and eat the bugs! It's just evolution bro!"Fucking kikes, one and all. There is nothing wrong with admitting the current population is too damn high for where we're at as a species and that we need to take societal reform to prepare for this inevitable crisis. I can accept the populations are going to be insanely high for many generations no matter what, but if the world took steps to try and reach a stable population humanity would be better off for it. There is nothing wrong with wanting the best possible life for the world's descendants, and that life will not be found on a hive world with 20 billion people that all want to rape and genocide one another.
Why does it have to go up? There are more people than ever and fewer resources than ever. Wouldn't it be better to drop populations down to their numbers about 100 years ago to get by on what's left? Life was better for white men 100 years ago, when the population of the world was 2 billion. It's 8 billion now which is clearly way too many.
>>537291419>Wouldn't it be betterNot for the investor class it wouldn't, no.>100 yers ago, when the population of the world was 2 billionI have the dubious honor of living to see the 6, 7, and 8 billion milestones, all in about a quarter century, and I'm like to live to see 9 and 10 at least if the world doesn't fall off first
>>537284409True without migration all of the west would die out because white boomers won't have their pensions etcThis is why Europe in many places now look like pic. 1 white male for 4 hard working blacks. 2 useless white women as breeding sows.
>>537284215Oh no, we might go back to having the same number if people we had in 2002! How could society possibly function?
>>537289221One generation grew up on muh brady bunch with 6 kids to sitcoms of 2.5 kids max. Even when i was a wee lad, there was 4 kids in our family .and that was considered INSANE by most of my friends' parents.Outcome shaped by jew media.
>>537284215>line must go up.WE ARE OVER POPULATEDso NO you retarded nigger. BIRTH RATES MUST GO DOWN.and millions must be deported.so we can have affordable housing and smaller high trust societies again.you fucking filthy nigger kike!
>>537284215> unless birth rates go up- ban contraception meds for healthy fertile childless women- no college admission for healthy fertile childless women- no fulltime job for healthy fertile childless womenGiving birth to at least two children must be written into law as the duty of every healthy fertile woman.They can keep their rigths but must fulfill their one and only, natural and necessary duty first.
>>537293462To be fair, the Brady Bunch was two people remarrying, they were more or less in the same range as normal
Caucasian birth rates are upWe, need moar
>>537285224Honestly it doesn't even need to pay for a house, it just needs to pay 1.5x what a woman in your peer group can make. Men will live in a tent.
>>537284215>line have to go up forever>populations can never stabilizeYou're going to die, kike, for the crime of endless lying.
>>537284215>>537284409>oh no my heccin billionaires will actually have to pay me a livable wage instead of importing 1 billion indians this will crash the economy>oh no my heccin landlords will have to charge me a fair rent because now there's less demand for housing>oh no my heccin boomers arent gonna be able to collect infinite gibs and welfare and will actually have to start not treating their families like shit so they take care of themWhy exactly do we need more people? Society will function perfectly fine if not way better with a smaller population.
>>537284215Why is a declining population something that needs to be "fixed" anyway?
>>537284215Mess immigration exacerbates low native birth rates. That's a big part of why kikes demand it in white countries.
>>537294527Parasites would suffer if we don't
>>537284409AI can do the work or all the unemployed white menimmigrant don't pay taxesAI can turn the eldery into goylsop
>>537285027They will die, as is our fate. We are not immortal until Jesus Christ returns.
>>537293161My brain auto-reversed it as one hard-working white and 4 useless blacks...That's how retarded your sentence was. Logic rejected it. Also, I really hate your cottony nigger hair. It's clear you don't know what to do with it either, except twist it into disgusting gnarls and put beads in them.
>>537284215you are a piece of shit, kill yourself faggot!
>>537284215if you take away women's rights, you fix mass immigration and birth rate
>>537284215I'm yet to see lower population as a problem outside of it being bad for the taxman and banks, enjoy being replaced on your homeland because you need more people to pay for usury
>>537284409Oh nooo, better wages and cheaper real estate, oh noooo
Goys are hooped
>>537284215>Mass immigration is unavoidable due to birth ratesKill yourself, retard.
>>537297723While you're right, those entities are still techically DOING SOMETHING, and it causes higher-order issues. Budget cuts cause service quality to drop (Not sure we'd notice, I know), it can cause wages to rise to a degree that businesses can't operate, lenders tighten up everything, etc. really perhaps most easily described as a slowing of money velocity to the point of economic collapse, political collapse, famine, war, etc. Granted, we're on the "damned if you do damned if you don't" level, but at least knowing you're fucked either way lets you plan accordingly.Now it's just a matter of figuring out how to try to get back up after the fall, but the body's still scrabbling for anything to stop its inevitable tumble
>>537284215NO. IT'S NOT UNAVOIDABLE. JUST LET THE POPULATION DECLINE FOR A LITTLE BIT AND RESTRICT WELFARE BENEFITS TO BOOMERS YOU FUCKING UN KIKE SHILL.
>>537284215>solutionsolution to what. seriously.
>>537284383kek'd
>>537284215blow your brains out sybb and "everybody" else that replied to his bot thread
