Holy fucking based.
>>537302596
Why did American Nazis get all schizo after WW2
>>537302631>A chilling thriller where White House advisors face a new Axis of Evil led by Russia and Iran, hurtling the world toward an ancient apocalypse.
Guys guys, if you reject A and look in the bin where A came from for something else to grab - you're doing it wrong.You can reject A (spiritualism) and just be a rational empiricist (by which i mean, the two words separate while combining the base meaning of each in combination).I.e. Only act in a rational empirical manner. Humanity hasn't proved any spiritual theory in 10,000 years to a rational standard, you can safely let go of spiritualism and just be.
>>537302664Getting buckbrocken in spectacular fashion does something to the psyche.
>>537302596whitey needs an ethno-cult
100 Megaton Trvth Bomba
>itt seething christ cucks tell you it's counter intuitive to not worship a jew on a stick who tells you that brown people are your brothers as long as they too worship the same said jew on a stick
>>537302676I don't think there's a rule anywhere saying bluebeam can't leave real scars.
>>537302831yes
>>537302596Basically he is a jew puppet.1) he makes their critics look retarded by association2) takes christianity down a pegNice job shabbos goy
>>537302990
>>537302792I simply can not do that as I am fully aware of having an astral body and of the powers of the mind being real. I can not ignore the experiments I've done over the last decade and the results I've gotten and the feedback. I have read books too like Flim Flam by James Randi, I've read extensively everyone for and against various topics in parapsychology, I've learned for example that pinwheels are not proof of anything and easily move from heat but like when it comes to my telepathy experiments and my remote viewing I haven't gotten vague results, I've gotten stuff that is statistically near impossible to just guess, like long chains of numbers right, describing every single detail in a room right, and then there's the times I've met up with friends in dreams and said "okay so lets meet at such and such place tomorrow" then we actually met up with each other at that place and both could recall having had the dream and talked to each other in the dream. Aside from all the work of parapsychologists which honestly is pretty bland compared to my personal experiences, I just can't be reasonable and ignore what evidences I've accumulated from actual experience and testing. Also out of the thousands of different authors I've listened to or read over the years, it's books like Mind Power The Secret of Mental Magic by William Walker Atkinson that I find best explain the reality of what is going on, and not so much by arguing with you but simply telling you what to do in order to get results for yourself. All the theory is easy to ignore but the results of practice are not easy to ignore. I think the stuff I've experienced count as "spiritualism", doesn't it?
>>537303154That's nice. If we test you in a rational, empirical environment we'll find repeatable and observable results... Right?
>>537302792You can rationalize marrying or not, having kids or not, blue or green paint. You gotta make a decision for your future, the quantifiables don’t cover it and you don’t have the cosmic spacetime for experiment. So you rationalize it. Jews, lawyers and especially jewish lawyers know you can rationalize anything any which way. I worry your rationalizations are just rationalizations if you know what I mean. After the fact, the emotion (or spirit). You have rationalizations for your unmeasurable fun and unhappiness, there’s no fucking way I’d trust those if I were to you. I’m not you. I’m kind of silly. Accepting of the irrational. I wouldn’t deny the irrational side. I don’t know what to say about an irrational creature in an irrational existence trying to do everything rationally. Isn’t that the most irrational thing? Don’t you think?
jews didn't invent christianity. they came out of poland and invented the holocaust. all throughout history, a group of people calling themselves jews emerge, get genocided, and go dormant for centuries to repeat the cycle. the bible even says this.
>>537305309Like a plague of locusts if the locusts practiced usury and promoted black entertainers
>>537302824>>537302664>>537302631>>537302596>>537302925>>537302979>>537303121>tranny freemason occultism is based nowshalom
>>537302843stop pushing for kikery, muttnigger
>>537302792if you reject "spiritualism" then you dont understand what it is and are a midwit at best.
>>537303032>>537302831>whites need to another false and contradictory cultftfy, retarded monkeys
>>537302596so he hated christianity yet founded a community church instead of a congregation or Ekklesia or something. Nope a church, a word that is most closely connected to Christianity. what a fucking retarded cumskin chud
>>537302596any discussion regarding american (((christianity))) is always a retarded schizofest
>>537302664They self-selected for insane people because World War II was in living memory and everyone hated the Nazi movement.
>>537302596Americans are 100% jewish, even when larping as Nazis lmao.
>>537305747>tranny freemason occultism is based nowFor Americans, Freemasonry is part of their founding myth. You have NO idea how popular MAsonry is in the US and thus, automatically, anti-Christianity.
In Turner Diaries, while writing under a pseudonym, he said Christians were some of the best soldiers against the ZOG. What level of 2-faced faggotry is this?
Its transparently obvious that none of these retards that take the "anti-universalist" stance, and oppose Christian concepts like charities and mercy ever think the whole thing through.They always lash out at the idea of "love thy neighbor", asking what if their neighbor is a nigger. None of them ever think to stop to ask why their neighbors in these scenarios are always niggers and never White.
>>537305841Cool. So, in the 10,000 years of recorded history that hasn't made a single evidence based connection with anything spiritual - you stand here, enlightened by an understanding of what it is? Correct?Can you communicate that to us? Does it exist outside of the imaginary space?Because the reality is, it is make-believe. You're making yourself believe in something that isn't there.Unless... Of course you have some empirical evidence to share. (<- not a question, because i know with 100% certainty you do not have an answer, that isn't based in more make-believe)
>>537305747The National Socialists banned Freemasonry and faggotry, christkike. The “occult” just refers to hidden [forces] in nature — your addition of that word means nothing.
>>537302596A Pierce thread?Basedhttps://youtu.be/jJu0XfiSHdY
Nu/pol/ fucking sucks
>>537311262Pierce was a glowfaggot. Sorry no one is falling for your bullshit, kike.
>>537311342>memeflag
>>537302596The Jew occupied Church is anti White, but older, classical versions of the Christian faith are pro White. See the first king of the Franks. Hitler also worked on spreading a true and reformed Christian message more inline with the actual faith.
>>537302596Yeah, all of these old BASED guy, like Pierce, Evola, Revilo Oliver had the privilege of sitting around in a comfy Christian homogeneous society, made comfy BY Christianity, and trying to blame all of white people's problems on Christianity. NOW, we can look through the view of a DE-Christianized society, and look at Seattle WA and Portland Oregon, and places like that, that are the finalized product of atheistic/humanistic white judeo-libtardism, and realize that in fact it WASN'T Christianity at all. It was white people themselves, DE-Christianizing that was causing all of the problems that were burgeoning during these guys' lifetimes.Even Hitler said that he imagined how awesome it would be if we had adopted islam. He had the luxury of living in a homogeneous Euro society, and had never actually had to see or live around muslims.
>>537303121>same old stale mossad issued memes from 2016.Christianity is true. And you can't defeat it.So what's up with anti-fa. Is Christianity their problem? >>537302925Why is it that the most disgusting white people are vehemently anti-Christian? Shouldn't these extremely de-Christianized places like Portland Oregon be utopias?Did Christianity make white people wear masks and fall for covid? Did they make white people march for george floyd? Did it make them give hormones to their children, and let them be trannies, or turn into trannies themselves? This ALL happened literally BECAUSE white people de-Christianized.
>>537311804mental gymnastics
>>537302792Where does logic come from? What is rationalism? Can matter be experienced qua matter or is it, too, a mental category? What are the implications of Being and Non-Being, philosophically? Are you aware of your ideology and the genealogy of it from Platonism over Nominalism and Cartesian dualism to now? Have you, in a serious manner, explored these ideas?The hard cap of human experience is the fact that by virtue of our mental existence we can only experience the world as a unified something. We can only make statements through that unified image, anything else is foolish and incoherent. Generally in philosophy they'd call that 'being'. But that couldn't account for the multiplicity that is very much real and would simply be a vulgar form of reductionism which is just handwaving away. So the ultimate principle of this world must be one beyond being and non-being so that unity and multiplicity remain intact and in exact relation to each other the way we observe them. Men far smarter than you, like Plotinus and Proclus, serious men that devoted their whole lives to that enquiry considered and wrote down these ideas 1700 years ago.But you're gonna handwave it all, having no serious grounding in philosophy at all yourself. You're not a serious man.And by the by, what is science? Natural philosophy. The whole system depends on philosophical axioms. There is no experience of matter qua matter. Nobody has ever had one.
>>537311804christianity did none of those things, the country was homogenous and mostly white in spite of christianity, it became mostly non-white due to christianity. christians kept the slaves here instead of sending them back to africa, it tried to integrate them into society because of christianity, it submitted to jews in ww2 because of christianity, it passed the 1965 hart cellar act because of christianity and seeing niggers as equals. if it weren't for christianity we wouldn't be in this mess. christian hate whites, they hate racial cohesion, they give all their charity to niggers and jews. not one christian church in the US will help any whites, they send all their money every where else but in poor white states. if there is a hell, then every so called christian will be there
>>537312165That principle of beyond being and non-being would be the neoplatonic One. The system is broadly known as panentheism, that is, everything in God.Every principle must necessarily be begotten or bound by a more simple anterior principle.Necessarily that principle would also be more "powerful". The One seemingly being "outside" being and non-being would hence also enjoy an actual freedom from determinism and the seemingly mechanical world we live in. But frankly I expect some positivist drivel in response so why bother
>>537302596>Rejects religionBased>Makes up his ownCringeRejecting religion requires some spine, but to immediately pivot and make up one of your own to replace previous religion means you're equally as much of a spineless sheep as the rest, you just love the idea of being somehow more enlightened than the rest of the sheep.
>>537312382So why did white countries corespondently, proportionately, inversely, become more acceptant of non-whites, with the de-Christianization of white countries? Why did Europe fight for centuries against muslim invaders, when they were Christianized, while they let them invade and build mosques now, after DE-Christianizing? Why are the most libtarded, athiestic areas, like portland and seattle, the WORST places?Why is washington state currently trying to ban hunting and farming? These should be the areas with the most BASED and athiestic whites.
>>537312762I'm arguing for the existence of God in a neoplatonist way, the same way all serious Christian philosophers have for the past 1500 years. You imbecilic ape. Who was St Dionysius the Areopagite? Mongoloid.
>>537302596ok jew you're not based, you'll never be based.God literally created what is known as based.Also noticing the anti christian threads recently and pro indian and jew threads.
>>537305747exactly based brazil for once.It's always the same for atheists, they are just angry they can't be faggots so they can't be leftists cause that's lowbrow so they'll pretend they are nazi atheists, but just like all nazi atheists, they slowly but surely switch to alisteir crowley and gay satanic shit.
>>537312521Humans will never be inspired to even continue reproducing and building societies based on "rationality". There is 0 reason rational to even continue the human enterprise. The anti-natalists claim to have the most "rational" argument. Religion is governing the realm of the psyche, and the psyche isn't rational. Religion deals with things that are not subject to empiricism, rationality, quantification, ect. >>537312878You are arguing for nebulous mush that will never amount to anything. Philosophy is wankery, and the final boss of worldly wisdom/philosophy was Schopenhauer, and the final conclusion is anti-natalism/nihilism.EVERY US action group or white org of any substanitive membership, such as return to the land and Patriot front, is Christian friendly.Aaarvol himself, the founder of return to the land, who is a platanist, is a Christian. He realizesw that worldly wisdom is NOTHING, if not sanctified with belief in Christ.
>>537309092That the kiked wanted to enshrine their "Kalergi Plan for America" as absolute law is another reason Israel murdered JFK and replaced him with psycho cryptojew LBJew.
>>537313119Nigger, the Church based its whole fucking philosophy on this mush, Christianity emerged in a Hellenic matrix of that mush. Neoplatonism does not reduce existence to dianoia, that is what you would take rationality and philosophy to be. There would be no Christianity the way you know it today without Hellenic philosophy. Why do the Hellenic philosophers go to limbo?And Eric Orwoll, the founder of RTTL is a fucking neoplatonist, you troglodyte. And he holds fiercely heretical beliefs, like reincarnation, many worlds etc.You know what used to happen to people like that, like Giordano Bruno? They got burned. So by that tradition Aarvoll oughta go that way too, aye? Don't tell me about what he believes, I used to talk to him on skype.You're genuinely 95iq. I was raised Catholic, was an altar boy and everything. I'm not the 2d enemy you're seeking, but you for sure are my enemy you retarded spiritual nigger.
>>537313119>There is 0 reason rational to even continue the human enterpriseWhy do you need a reason? This is exactly like the retards who obsess over atheism not giving a "reason for existence", why the hell do you absolute fucking imbeciles need reasons to do shit and live? Just fucking live and prosper, not that complicated.
>>537312165Didn't read that.If hand touch fire = pain = don't touch fireDon't touch fire as a rule taught to others"Rational" is just a mouth-sound we use to convey experience relating to empirical sensory examination, exploration and tranmissibility of experience of the real world.I.e. it is rational to not touch fire. Sure bad actors can lie, they can tell you to touch fire. But it will hurt unless there is a circumstance (which can also be explored rationally) preventing it.What you're doing is taking something based in reality, our experience, and trying to push the conversation into a realm of make-believe. The entire pantheon of "exploration" and "philosophy" that exists in this realm of make-believe has given us nothing as a species in the real world. Everything it gives can only exist in make-believe.I ask any one person whose read and studied philosophy what real world actions have come from their "enlightenment", wherein a rational actor might not have done the same.Out of kindness i won't touch the subject of irrational "spiritualist" movements that have caused real world harm.
>>537305747shalom
>>537313384Natural philosophy, i.e. empiricism is a product of philosophy and even a product of Christianity which, in its philosophical aspects is a product of Platonism:Next question.See? I can make it mighty easy for myself too, the way you do. You have no grounding in what you're talking about. You're like a bricklayer at the construction site tryna give me words of wisdom on the political process. What are we even doing here? It's not a serious discussion, you're wilfully talking past me.
>>537313602You're confusing Empiricism, the wikipedia first entry, with empiricism. Now answer the question.
>>537313690I don't read wikipedia, sorry lil bro lolYour epistemology is completely outta whack and incoherent. How can I talk to you when you'll revert to plebeian inherited wisdom and tired old phrases and a pop-scientific understanding of the world? What conversation is there to be had with someone responding ''didn't read'' lmao
>>537313829Consider that i "didn't read" your messages, built a foundation for logic with an easily relatable example then asked what's beneath that, (spiritualism) that which you consider philosophy. I then asked for an example of something built in the real world from your perspective base. To which nothing was given me by you in 2 replies.For something i didn't read, it sure seems to me i grasped the meaning of your message and countered it - while still waiting for a question to be answered by you (or anyone else).But i suspect we're not going to get there. Because in 10,000 years people smarter than you or I have never got there. The question will remain unanswered, logically, forever. But maybe you can do it?Let's assume good faith sincerity and actually attempt an answer. No one cares if you make a fool of yourself, no one will read this or remember it 24hours from now. Can your ego manage that?
>>537307877All knowledge is ultimately based on that which we cannot prove. You deal in the hylic realm with an ego that deceivesyou into thinking that the things that hang above you are actually beneath you. That's why you hylic empiricists always arrive at a dead end, you lack the faith to have an open perspective and expect others to bring enlightenment to your feet before you're convinced to venture into the woods of knowledge. You're nothing but a fool.
>>537302596A fact for christgolems to consider:The jews who wrote the New Testament for you and created Christianity for you gave it certain universalist clauses, such as slaves obeying their masters, you accepting everyone without question, and that you owe money to jews for the "gift" of your religion (all of this is in the NT). Meanwhile, the jews themselves believed in none of this.Jews are insular, money-obsessed, and excessively ethnotribal. So why would they create a religion for you that specifically tells you to do the opposite, notably to your own detriment? Could it be, hmm... That they were trying to destroy you?
>>537314069Christ you're up your own arse m8.Your very system is a derivative of my system.And it's nothing to do with me lmao, you're stealing my talking point of Proclus and Plotinus, try and turn it around on me in some twisted way? It's very low and common.I've produced nothing here of my own, I'm only pointing back at their system which is immaculate and which you handwave by without ever seriously engaging with it. If you want to make an enquiry into existence you must start with first principles. You refuse this. Your approach will always end in solipsism, which makes communication impossible and empowers you to never have to engage seriously. A boyish way to approach the world, but then lmfaoYou're not a serious man, little man. Pipe down
>>537314072My hand touch fire statement above immediately invalided your opening sentence. Continue from this point on please.>>537314275I'm literally asking for expansion on the topic, multiple times - you're just shutting it down with no answer?Here, let's play a game of, KISS.Hand touch fireFire burnCommunicate this to othersStep 1 was empirical exploration, using sensory inputs on the environmentStep 2 was empirical observation, the feeling of pain (which will occur 100% of the time in this scenario)Step 3 was communicating a rationalism (again, just a mouth word to explain why it is good to not touch fire)I contend, there is nothing below this logic. Do you contest this? If so, what and how is it explored and more importantly how does exploration have affects in the real world that underpins (i.e. comes before) rationalization as described.
>>537312521>>537312878Here you go dummies. Hot off the presses. 65% of the country believes religion makes society better, down from 75%. Which is the demographic driving the trend? Young women/democrats. >This 10-point shift reflects changes in opinion in most key demographic and political groups, mostly dramatically among women, 18- to 34-year-olds, those with some college, and Democrats - with all those groups shifting opinion by negative 16 points.Why? Because Christianity says things like.>But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 1 Timothy 2:12What does BASED European philosophy, such as platonism? What did plato say in the republic? He said that woman should be equal with men, and fill roles that were traditionally filled by men. The ideology of women's liberation comes from NOWHERE else than plato's republic.There's your "rationality". The most IRRational members of society, namely, hysterical young females and democrats, are the most anti-Christian.
>>537314547You can only have knowledge of things by universals. You would reduce these to little mouth noises, but again, these little mouth noises have referents in reality that have commonalities. Before you ask me questions about my nervous system reactions to my environment you must semantically explain all these points and show me a robust ontology. If you simply handwave ontology there's no talking here, because there's no possibility to engage in a common arena and you (and i believe knowingly) try to hide behind an amorphous conceptPhysicalism is vacuous, all things we consider matter are mental categories. What is the original conception of matter as established by the Greeks? Do answer, let's play this ''answer me answer me'' game you're so fond of lolYou've no leg to stand on calling me out on shutting it down when there's to this point no engagement on my initial points, none whatsoever.
>>537314554I genuinely contend that you must be executed :) for your own good, ofc
>>537302596He was pro-Palestine and pro-Islam. Nu-pol would call him a shitskin tranny.
>>537314768Why do i have to show a robust ontology?I can rationally explain with repeatedly observable real world actions the electrical pathway signalling neurons and receptors take to the brain, how those areas effect a persons perception of hot and cold. Hypothesis can be built on this and a science can evolve to explore this, again all empirically and rationally.I ask such an unbelievably simple question, what is below this logic. I again, contend there is nothing. You clearly contest this but can't explain it without saying that your ideas come first (again, without explanation).We've literally tracked this happening here in this thread that any outside person of average intelligence can read with basic reading comprehension. You distract, state (pretentiously) and tangent the question.I'm quite certain this isn't even the first time I've seen you, specifically you, do this online. To what end? Why can't you answer a simple question? Try again, it's really easy:--Hand touch fireFire burnCommunicate this to othersStep 1 was empirical exploration, using sensory inputs on the environmentStep 2 was empirical observation, the feeling of pain (which will occur 100% of the time in this scenario)Step 3 was communicating a rationalism (again, just a mouth word to explain why it is good to not touch fire)I contend, there is nothing below this logic. Do you contest this? If so, what and how is it explored and more importantly how does exploration have affects in the real world that underpins (i.e. comes before) rationalization as described.
>nu/pol/ is seething over Dr. Pierce now I need to stop even letting this board annoy me, it's all kike bots not actual humans. The real users are mostly gone aren't they
>>537314554>Young women/democrats.because they co-opted and fucked up religion for decades now, and have lost interest in it now that there's no pushback against lesbian pastors giving money to jews
>>537315312probably
>>537315269What is matter?
>>537313270America used to have potential
>>537315401Things we can touch, sense and observe (not exclusive)
>>537315580Which are all mental categories. What is matter?
>>537315610If 100% of humans can observe a sense, it is rational to believe it exists, and irrational to believe it doesn't - as no one can establish a basis for the irrational belief that can be transmitted to 100% of the population. (invalids not withstanding)Again, this argument devolves to the fire example. You contest there exists something under the sense. I ask for proof, or its effects in reality that can be observed.You could have left this conversation long ago by saying, "There is no evidence based in reality for my beliefs, but i choose to believe anyway", which is fine, but i would then catergorize you in this context as an irrational actor (which you've displayed on your own).UNLESS OF COURSE, there is something one could observe, in regards to your beliefs.
>>537315884And see, here you reveal your philosophical bias. You presuppose that mental categories are unreal, at best hallucinations. You reduce reality to 'matter', whatever that even is.You can not reduce qualia to matter. Not even the (serious) high priests of your religion are able to do that. Conceiving of the mental as an iridescence on matter is putting the cart before the horse.You are a subjective awareness in a world that can isolate objects against a background. That's the fundamental syntax of reality as far as we can discern as humans. From that we can reason and extrapolate.Your precious *idea* of matter is a very late construct that's experienced considerable degeneration in its explanatory power through the centuries. But then you wouldn't get it, would you? Because philosophy is merely a hallucination, right?
>>537315884Nothing can be entirely self-crrated and nothing can be created ex nihilo. Far from being a creationist argument for you to boyishly dismiss this is a fundamental ptoblem philosophy has explored for 2500 years. All hogwash?And you'd have to define what evidence is. Must I produce a miniature bearded man on a cloud from my pocket? Or can I invite you to reason alongside me? Well, I don't think you want to do that
>>537316198I always link "rational empiricism" together because of comments like this.Someone following a path of empiricism, rationally, wouldn't spend a majority of their time driving into the depths looking for source while there are quite literally, millions of other problems. That is the definition as you so nicely put, of putting the cart before the horse. It is akin to spiritualism.The underlying method of empirical based science isn't an linear point from a to b. It evolves as new methods of observation are created. Some ideas are shelved until that point of creation."Mental categories" are simply biological heuristic analysis of the environment and our sense of it. A bird has a variation of "mental category" different than us due to their different sensory organs. This can be observed and explored and explained.Nothing you've communicated can be observed, explored or have an effect, unless it exists in a world, ironically, consisting of words in the mind. Take away language, your ideas die. Reality still exists.You're truly irrational lmao. I'm glad though, you're acting as wheel to my sword. Your baselessness is truly amusing (i mean that sincerely), you get slightly cornered and immediately retreat to your safe-space (using that unironically) of words and make-believe.I wish i knew someone like you in real life so i can observe your bodily movements and stuttering words (probably filled with resentful tone and anger) as you squirm around and try to answer everything with an irrational question, while at the same time proclaiming a greater understanding, that you can't explain or transmit.
>>537316909Rationality proceeds from intellect. Intellect is a primary experience, not a material quantity. All quantitative thinking proceeds from intellect.This is baby's first venture into philosophy. Genuinely embarrassing.And the little screed tryna scry my inner machinations? Talk about being effete and womanish lol
>>537312762>Why are the most libtarded, athiestic areas, like portland and seattle, the WORST places?Those are hardly the worst cities in the US. The biggest shitholes in America are negro towns like Jackson, Mississippi; Birmingham, Alabama; Memphis, Tennessee, etc. for reasons which should be obvious.You also can't just reverse time and make people believe in the theological truth of Christianity like they did in the past. That era is ending.
>>537317159Nope.Fire hurt (experience)Don't touch fire (rationalization)Your understanding of this is heuristical analysis ("mental category")(Again, words are just mouth-sounds to transmit a reality everyone can co-exist in, even animals)100% of humans without language (even animals) can experience this reality.You have no counter-argument that isn't self referential in its logic and working, that can exist IN reality, therefore be observed, experienced and explored. You can't even communicate properly, in a transmissible way, you have to exist entirely in make-believe space.Just like the people from the last 10,000 years, you've made 0 progress here.
>>537317696What is reality?(btw i genuinely believe now that you're autistic. so what i'm doing here very well will be interpreted as abuse of the disabled)
>>537302596Literally who is this dumb boomer?
>>537317779Same answer as matter. That you immediately didn't know I'd say that shows how little you read. How little you actually understand.
>>537317894No it's just a black box you stuff anything and everything in lolWhat is reality?And how little I read? Do you wanna read some Proclus together, little man? Or Plato? We can do that
>>537318005You have the answer, follow on
>>537318070Ah, very well. I accept your admission of defeat graciously with the magnanimity of my great heart
>>537318129>What is reality?I answered you and you refuse to elaborate on your train of thought? Why, can't?
>>537318288Oh I thought the match was concluded? Make up your mind Brucieboy
