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The capital of a (increasingly desperate) nuclear power is under attack
Let that sink in
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Its just going to increase the internal pressure on the Kremlin to trigger its nuclear doctrine and set a process in motion that ends the UK, France, Germany, the Benelux, Poland, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, the Baltics, Russia and the EU and UN as political entities
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>>537313077
Daddy Xi said no nukes, buddy
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>>537313152
Russias nuclear doctrine is less of a political decision and more a mechanical process. China has no saying in this. And tbqh, China has an interest in encouraging the deployment of nuclear weapons as it enables China to snatch up eastern oblasts with oil and gas reserves from the Russians

Seriously shill,if the chinks are your hope to prevent Russia from triggering the nuclear doctrine, you are pretty much hopeless
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>>537312992
chudelensky: If Ukraine burns, your Moscow will burn too
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>>537313286
You shills are a disgrace to effective propaganda.
Go spam this stock shill image that identifies you as Nato contractor more
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>>537313077
This terrorist attacks don’t threaten Russian military or state, so highly unlikely they will trigger a nuclear strikes. But they make any peace deal impossible because without taking over Kiev and bringing terrorists to justice. That is probably the main idea of Zelenskiy, since he gets payed for war.
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>>537313329
cope jew fag
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So, how long until Ukraine gets nuked?
I'm guessing that it will be a tactical nuke that takes out mainly military positions and not one that wipes an entire city?
If Russia uses nukes, what will follow next?
Or will Russia attack NATO before they dare to use nukes?

A bad collateral that I see is that these attacks on Russia will make their population more accepting of a general mobilization. Fighting now seems like a defensive necessity instead of a special military operation somewhere else. Remember that the Kremlin controls what news these people get exposed too. I wouldn't be surprised if they're not aware of degree in which Ukraine has been attacked. Perhaps they will believe that they have been attacked unprovoked.

Seriously though, do people really think that Putin will simply take the L in silence without using nukes or attacking NATO first?
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>>537313686
>they will trigger a nuclear strikes


Hahahaha he said the line hahaha
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>>537313686
Vodka nigger shill, same as your NATO counterparts you are the smallest fucking cog in the machine. I suppose when I go in on Friday and eve's drop on the Russians during smoke breaks and pretend I don't understand them, the chatter is going to be even more about when to finally go hot as it was after the attack on the school.

The Kremlin has not much more options left, the internal pressure is becoming too hot.
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>>537313778
Never gonna happen, Ukrainian cities were built by the Soviets to withstand nuclear attacks, so even if Kyiv got nuked Zelensky and all the leadership would survive just fine.
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>>537312992
>nooks.
HE SAID THE MEME.
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>>537313778
I think NATO, some bases in Poland and Germany should be nuked, then they calm down with their terrorism.
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>>537313273
>I promise you, Russia is an irrational actor that will start nuking even though they are not facing an existential threat
Okay, sure buddy.
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>>537313273
>china has no saying in this
delusional
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>>537313778
What is the point of nuking hohols if they decide nothing, just captured and sent to the frontlines?
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>>537313902
They think Call of Duty MW is real life. LoL
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>>537313902
It has become rational. And with every failed attempt by Hoholistan to increase the internal pressure to cease the attack by targeting civilians, the exact opposite of intended is reached. By now the pressure to deploy nukes is largely stronger than to cease the attack
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>>537313920
It has non. Your analysts are stuck in the fucking 1980/90s. But that's what happens if one fails to get rid of incompetent genX trash
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it's funny people think Russia has working nukes.
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>>537312992
The west have crossed so many red lines created by Russia. At this point all NATO countries should start manufacturing cheap loitering munitions and send them all to Ukraine so those hohols can terrorize Moskvabad citizens every hour every day and every week.
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>>537314059
Putin could literally stop the fighting and Ukraine would stop the strikes. Maybe Putin sees it as existential for his political career that they capture the rest of Donetsk , but I doubt most Russians see it that way.
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>>537314268
> all NATO countries should start manufacturing cheap loitering munitions and send them all to Ukraine
top kek, they have been doing this for years already
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>>537314364
Nope, this of all Ukraine
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>>537314059
>>537314268
>Ukraine gets bombed for 5 years straight
>crickets
>Moskova gets bombed for a few days
>VADIM ACTIVATE THE SAMSON OPTION
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>>537313720
Not a bad O. C... I'd run it through A. I. to spruce it up some.
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>>537314263
This Russia is a shithole, and maintaining nukes costs money they don't have.
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>>537314332
> Ukraine would stop the strikes
That is not how terrorism works. All the responsible for this attacks need to go to jail.
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>>537314263
If they didn't US/NATO would have invaded them a long time ago or attempted regime change
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>>537314626
what do you think happened in 1991?
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>>537314459
>defending yourself against the aggressor is terrorism
Discussing the Ukraine war with Russian shills is so tiring. There is actually no point to it because they either truly believe their own distorted reality, or they put on this facade of being a hardliner.
>but civilian deaths
>but economic terrorism
>buh buh buh
Welcome to war. Its what you signed up for when invading 4 years ago.
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>>537313900
I don't think Russia would dare to nuke NATO
Ukraine, yes, they could eventually
And attacking NATO as well, just not nuclearly
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>>537312992
Oh no, we are 'still' winning, time to nook!
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>>537313720
Shlem
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>>537314364
They sent ground vics, shells and missiles, not loitering munitions as so many NATO countries lag behind Iran in terms of capability of creating and manufacturing cheap loitering munitions, including Muttistan
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>>537314846
zelenskiyy is a jew along with his whole cabinet. not putin
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>>537314741
You guys are such brainlets. Nooking Ukraine would serve no purpose other than nooking Ukraine and in the process would only make the situation exponentially worse for themselves.
If Russia wants Ukraine to stop attacking, all it needs to do is GTFO Ukraine.
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>>537314915
>Nooking Ukraine would serve no purpose other than nooking Ukraine
sounds good to me
will it make you braindead kvetch as an extra?
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>>537314907
Every drone in Ukraine is made in Europe. How so you think all german automotive industry survives? The more advanced drones are bought from Americans and payed by EU.
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>>537314332
And why should his camp do that. There is no rational reason. It would be the end of continuation of power for their camp. Nato retards and Hoholistan mongos manoeuvred the Putin camp into a situation where the only possible moves are giving up power and balkanizing Russia or launching nukes on everyone and then balkanize with everyone else

Congratulations, your heroes created the situation for a great reset, and cheer for it.
Lol

Enjoy post nuclear anarchy
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>>537315090
I'm gonna nook saar
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>>537314915
>all it needs to do is GTFO Ukraine
Unironically the best possible scenario for them at this point
But it probably means Putin's neck, so he won't just do that
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>>537312992
>Ruski can’t even defend their capital
>”We are ultra-winning guys, two more weeks”
My only seethe is that Trump cucked himself so badly this is not even the most humiliating war.
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>>537314422
If you paid attention and did not just copy paste the scripts you are paid to copy paste, you would know that the call for nuclear strikes on Ukraine and Nato countries have been around since March '22, for over 4 years. And with every day passing, more pressure to use them is exercised on the Kremlin, yes mostly because those that want to use them are betting on taking power in various oblasts and regions afterwards, but thanks to nato failures, these voices are now the loadest. The ceasefire camps are practically inexistent by now
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>>537313077
>NOOOOOOKS!!!!11111oneoneone
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>>537314332
nah actually we're going to continue depopulating the ukranny and seizing our rightful territory and there's nothing you can do about it. drones can't recapture territory, volunteer and put your boots on the ground or keep watching kikes get raped from a distance
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>>537315090
>your heroes
lmaoo nigger, the fucking GOLEM that is RF started this shit along with the GOLEM that is the US. RF soldiers do the heavy lifting for the reset, as they are fighting on the forefront of this endeavour.
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>>537313273
>China has no saying
Achmed pls...
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>>537312992
Oh no! Everybody knows that russians anhero when desperate. They're gonna nuke themselves aren't they?
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>>537315090
>into a situation where the only possible moves are giving up power and balkanizing Russia or launching nukes
False dichotomy. If Russia does Balkanize, it would only be as a result of the actions of Putin. But I doubt this would happen by ceasing attacks. Nobody protests in Russia anymore, so how are they going to organize the breakup of various regions?
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>>537314989
The west sent raw materials and components nigga. Ukrainians are the ones manufacturing it from scratch after getting struck by shaheds repeatedly.
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>>537315520
I don't give a shit lol. Have fun exchanging kills until and equipment until your power and influence dwindles to that of Mongolia.
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>>537315810
Nigger, nato failures created the situation where if the Kremlin ceases the attack, the putin camp loses control over the oblasts, the same outcome as if the Putin camp launches nukes on European capitals. So tell me shill, what is more preferable? To balkanize alone, or take down every political entity with you from Lisboa to Kiew?
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>>537315979
>nato failures created the situation where if the Kremlin ceases the attack, the putin camp loses control over the oblasts
What does this even mean
Putin is rational and that is why he wouldn't nuke Europe. If he did then he would be destroying all of Russia when nukes are sent back at him. He also wouldn't "strategically" nuke Ukraine because it is terrible optics. It would
>show that he is weak
>completely destroy the narrative that Russia is "liberating" Ukraine and that the Russians and Ukrainians are brothers
>alienate China which is Russia's main trading partner
>cause every country in the world to hate Russia if they don't already
>ironically, probably lead to the balkanization of Russia
>Dissolve any possibility of Russia entering back into the world economy. They will be shunned and excised out of society until the death of Putin and likely much longer.
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>>537315854
You are a lying cocksucker
All the interceptor drones are made in the UK.
All thier long range drones used to be from Turkey (who they still buy drones from).

France, Germany, Netherlands, Taiwan, Italy all make drones for ukraine

>https://helsing.ai/newsroom/helsing-to-produce-6000-additional-strike-drones-for-ukraine
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>>537315970
>"I don't give a shit lol"
>spends all day defending the ukranny's jewish honor online
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>>537316799
You nato retards really don't understand Russia, or rather what keeps a territory like it under the control of a tiny minority that sits in a shithole like Moscow. Its force, the perception of the tiny minority in Moscow being strong. as soon as that perception changes, all bets are off, and its preferable from the Kremlins perspective to have key oblasts and it's strong man being crippled by retaliation attacks after having crippled external enemies than letting them take power unchallenged by being perceived as weak
>Muah china.
Retard. You are really betting everything on false idea that the chinks have any control over Russia
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>>537317258
News to me, I hope other countries follow suit.
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>>537312992
The containment threads are down the hall and to the left
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>>537317359
>ukranny's jewish honor
This is very antisemitic. Wasn't your war to stop Nazism?
>>537317398
I gotta go to a meeting now. Someone from State is giving a lecture on the strongest talking points to use for the Ukraine War. Once I get back I'm sure I'll have a real zinger for you. But in the meantime, have you considered not being a weak country?
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>>537318037
>Wastes time listening to outdated genX failures holding meetings about how to be even more ignored
Austria is one among 6 territories on the European continent that could survive intact after the process finished
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>>537317398
>the perception of the tiny minority in Moscow being strong
It's not about the perception of strength, this ship has sailed long ago.
It's about the perception of stability: Putin's regime won't be challenged as long as it's seen as one providing stability.
Ukrainian attacks, especially the ones targeting Moscow, are actively dismantling this illusion and using nukes in response would only make things worse.
Pressure is being applied very specifically to force Putin into negotiations and Putin has no alternatives left really.
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>>537313778
>If Russia uses nukes, what will follow next?
All hell breaks loose.
Total sanctions. China gets sanctioned too if they ship anything to Russia or buy oil and gas. Chinese banks sanctioned. Basically globalisation breaks down.
And yeah the West would be willing to take some economic pain to punish China if it doesn't distance itself from Russia using nukes.
Which makes it likely that China will play along.

NATO would probably start bombing Russian positions in Ukraine, claiming the nuke created a humanitarian disaster and it's affecting their borders. So it will probably push NATO to stop being neutral, because it's starting to impact its own members close to Ukraine.

Russian shadow fleet gets completely impounded everywhere. No more exports of oil and gas by sea.
The UN either adopts resolution on Russia or if it fails, it breaks down. The other security members basically call the UN over if one of its security council members used a nuke.

Basically shit gets even more dire for Russia and the nuke will not have solved anything, just made their situation much worse. That's why Putin hasn't even considered using one, because he knows it doesn't really solve anything.
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>>537318363
That strategy is failing and is a projection by weak Nato governance failures about their own situation. All the strategy did has been increased the power of those that have been calling for nukes on Europe for 4 years.

Shows again, nato analysts are hopelessly stuck in the 20th century.
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>>537318491
>Sanctions
Ahahahahahahahahahaha
Sure thing shill, a governance entity that got crippled by nuclear strikes on its capitals is able to enforce paper law
Lmfao
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>>537318491
>it will probably push NATO to stop being neutral,

I meant it would stop refusing to get directly involved in the actual fighting going on in Ukraine. If there's a huge wave of refugees crossing from Ukraine to NATO members, NATO will claim this justifies sending troops to Ukraine.
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>>537312992
I want to personally thank Russia for being so patient with Ukraine.
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>>537318613
Russia will not use nukes on western capitals or their state will disappear
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>>537318621
What troups shill. The mercenaries that get currently called armed forces and have no loyalty to the polity? A man doesn't risk his life for a paycheck, one has to inspire his soul, and nato polity couldn't inspire a wet tissue
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>>537315520
Why are you not at the front?
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>>537318672
If hohols keep attacking civilians in a failed attempt to pressure the Kremlin to cease the attack and appear weak that happens one or another way; its rational to nuke the shit out of Nato countries before that happens
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>>537318723
> A man doesn't risk his life for a paycheck
of
course a man does, when he has nothing to eat. Just wait.
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>>537318848
The risk to reward to stage internal attacks against weak polity structures is higher than be loyal to that weak polity structure
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>>537318799
I don’t think there will be surprise nukes. This was is fake as fuck, it is probably planned by all sides two years ahead and agreed upon. All the news are just to keep the cattle excited and going.
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>>537318562
>All the strategy did has been increased the power of those that have been calling for nukes on Europe for 4 years.
No one even half-relevant is calling for nukes on Europe when you need just 2 nukes to effectively dissolve Russia.
All this nuclear posturing is nothing more than that, everyone knows this which is why everyone ignores it.
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>>537318998
this war is fake*
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>>537318998
>Conspiracy nut theorizing
Lol. Grasping for straws.
>>537319004
You lying on a dead shill image board has no effect. The call for nukes has increased over the past 3 months more than over the past 4 years. Since Hungary stopped blocking infinite debt to feed Hoholistan, nukes on European capitals is not a question of if but when, and going by the chatter in the UN city, it could happen before September
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>>537319194
>call for nukes
you are probably retarded, Russian desisions are not swayed by some fake news and hysterics that last a day. You should have noticed that over the last few decades. That is Europe that can just vote any day for the exact opposite policy and no one gets punished.
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>>537319194
>The call for nukes has increased over the past 3 months more than over the past 4 years.
Brown retards and seething impotent ziggers calling for nukes on a dead shill image board has no effect.
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>>537319398
so you need to constantly bring the news and fuel the propaganda machine, because everything is holding up on a very thin wire of the social mood, that is easily manipulated and changes depending on the news
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>>537319194
>You lying on a dead shill image board has no effect
He said, lacking any self-awareness
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>>537319398
Since Hungary stopped the blocking of infinite debt, the fail strategy of Nato failures to have hohols primarily attack civilian targets in Russia has increased extremely. And contrary to the intended outcome it has strengthened the camp that calls the Kremlin weak for not nuking London, Paris, Den Hague, Brussels, Berlin, Warsaw, Copenhagen, Helsinki....
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Zigzisters.. I thought the Rodina was winning and the pigraine was losing?
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>>537319620
is the ukraine winning with us here, in this very reality?
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>>537319493
Shill, you are not influencing anything by spamming copy pasted scripts on a dead imageboard, you are just a mercenary engaged in inefficient propaganda for a minimum wage pay check. Keep on being a useful idiot, the outcome is set in stone. European political entities as well as the Russian political entity cease to exist.

We both know, you won't pick up a rifle and go the front following the call of mobilization after the nuclear exchange.
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>>537319664
>We don't need oil and the territories we invaded anyway
>our air defence not working is actually a feint
>the pigraine just lost hundreds of drones xaxaxa
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>>537319664
yeah its like skynet vs dudes on horses

It aint pretty
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>>537319762
Nigger, you the only one here, attempting to shill for the retarded muh nooks propaganda which literally no-one in EU, Ukraine or even Russia gives any fucks about.
Neither the majority of ordinary Russians nor the Russian elites have any interest in dying in a nuclear hellfire over some fucking donbabwean potato fields.
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>>537319762
Every shill that is currently sitting in one of the Nato targets spamming for a minimum wage pay check is going to desperately trying to flee to a non nato territory. But its going to be too late then.

Norway won't open its borders for fleeing Swedes, Danes and Fingolians. Austria and Switzerland won't let any German, France or Italian one inch over the border.

You made your decision remaining in primary target territories
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>>537320345
Russia has been using MIRVs on Ukrainian cities, I saw a few videos of them.
It hasn't hit any of you yet; the target isn't Ukraine they just happen to be in the way.
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>>537320345
I am not advertising anything, despite me having an interest in a nuclear exchange between Russia and nato territories. I just narrate the outcome of what your clients have you spam for on a dead imageboard. Its too late for you. Enjoy your minimum wage for being a fail propaganda mercenary. When it counts, you are going to be trapped
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>>537312992
Their nuke trucks don't work.
They say they have 5000...lol
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>>537318799
OK let's see it happen then
Why is Russia so pussy and doesn't use nukes?
They could have done this 4 years ago and it would have been total victory.
But they won't because they're too pussy or their nukes are fake and gay
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nukeheards are so creative
they come up with new reasons to rationalize why nuclear powers will never use them no matter what happens like they have chatgpt installed in their brain
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>>537320831
Because over the past 4 years the Kremlins power structure hasn't been that hard under pressure as today for appearing weak. Prigoshin was an outlier easy to be dealt with, today there are ten thousands of potential Prigoshin all over different oblasts that just wait for blood in the water making their move.

As said, the Kremlin is effectively set checkmate, but the Kremlin has no incentive to accept defeat, and all incentive to destroy the board
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>>537312992
Russia isn't under some existential threat....they can just LEAVE at any time. It's like they are being bullied on the internet.
Putin's REGIME might well be facing an existential threat however. So the actual danger depends on how willing his subordinates are to turn some keys to keep that aging kleptocratic thug in power a few more years.
You can bet your ass that Trumpy has some fake codes in his Fischer Price football.
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>>537320831
It would have resulted in the destruction of russia.
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>>537321352
yOu sHOUld uSE moRE caPsLOCk sHIll
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>>537321123
>all incentive to destroy the board
They can't even do that.
Like what, attack everyone at once?
They'd get obliterated.
And all it takes is a few nukes to finish Russia by striking Moscow and St Pidor.
The rest of Russia is just a bunch of shacks with peasants who shit in an outhouse
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Or you can just go home.

That's still an option
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And that is a tough question. You get the call (from Putin's hardened nook proof bunker) to turn some keys, knowing that
A. your family will likely all perish horribly
and
B. your currently sitting inside one of the top 10 enemy nook targets.
Will you Die for Putinseid?
No a fairer question is; you are going to die one way or the other, do you take everyone you know with you?
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>>537321420
Well Russia is effectively destroyed as a coherent political entity when the Kremlin loses control. Only that contrary to the retarded imagination of you shills, the Kremlin has no incentive to go down alone. Russia as a united political entity is under existential threat and that's exactly the trigger for the nuclear doctrine
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>>537321461
Wtf is with this salty Austrian? Pussy starvation?
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>>537321471
Eh yes. A barrage of 1000s of nuclear warhead Iskanders simultaneously flying westward
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>>537321352
>1 post
Ukraine had 12 years to stop trying to take Crimea/LPR/DPR back. All they did was end up with less territory.
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>>537313077
I wouldn't even mind if the end of the world happened today
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>>537321567
The Soviet Empire died decades ago, this is just it's shambling, rabid corpse stalking about dangerously. It's far past due to dissolve into a few rational countries.
The Soviet Dream was never realized, it only attained status as rivalsan to better nations, and didn't fulfill any of it's promises to the People.
(extra capitalization for that Austrian faggot).
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>>537321608
They don't have that many missiles left. If they did they would have used them on Kiev already.
Every strike they do happens when a new batch of missiles is fresh off the conveyor belt.
So 1000s of iskanders is just an unrealised power fantasy
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>>537321530
I think most of the Russian nuclear missiles are tied to an AI system like Deadhand or whatever they use now, they've probably shared the conditions with other countries and everyone knows their limits.
But they would still have to leave an opening for Putin to be removed otherwise all of Russia is just a lie and not a real country, just merc commanders and slaves to be marched off to die with Putins finger on a button.
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>>537321617
Why would they?

Would you just give in to home invaders and hope they had mercy on you and your family?
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>>537321617
>1 post
Masterful counter-argument. I suspect you'll be digging into your ammo bag of "trannie" and "ur brown" at any moment, you playground bitch.
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>>537321678
MAD as in the end of the world is Boomer fantasy from 50 years ago. Just because a few 1000 square miles are radiation poisoned and the current political entities controlling them cease to exist doesn't mean the world ends, not even humanity. The board is just reshuffled and a new game begins
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>>537321733
>otherwise all of Russia is just a lie and not a real country, just merc commanders and slaves to be marched off to die with Putins finger on a button.
Oh boy I have some news for you
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>>537321732
This. The only major success of the War in Ukraine has been breathing life back into fat kid's little hermit kingdom. Them guys are eating good now, selling materiel to the Russians.
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>>537321733
>otherwise all of Russia is just a lie and not a real country, just merc commanders and slaves to be marched off to die with Putins finger on a button
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>>537321766
>home invaders
Those homes were all owned by people loyal to Russia. Ukraine were the home invaders, faggot shill. When your government grows so corrupt it is the duty of men to throw then out of power
Tranny faggot shill
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>>537321698
>GenX stuck in a 40 year old feever dream that was never a reality
Lol - you should really read the updated nuclear doctrine, at best in the original to get the nuances
>>537321732
Ah yes, the
>Nukes are not real and if they are the missiles don't exist
Shill line.
Lol
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>>537313329
You need stitches for your anus.
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>>537313077
>Its just going to increase the internal pressure on the Kremlin to trigger its nuclear doctrine and set a process in motion that ends the UK, France, Germany, the Benelux, Poland, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, the Baltics, Russia and the EU and UN as political entities
>Russians are retards eager to commit nuclear suicide
I don't think so, mate
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>>537321930
ʻ
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Soon JVPITER will march on Mosquew
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>>537312992
kek, russian pigs getting slaughtered who cares. they asked for it
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>>537321975
Read the nuclear doctrine in the original.
Russia, as in the political entity of Russia being under existential threat of ceasing to exist triggers the destruction of the board. That includes internal balkanization and loss of control by Moscow over the oblasts that make up Russia. If Russia can't exist, and that's what NATO is going for, the world can't exist
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>>537321930
>were the home invaders
Yes, Ukraine invaded themselves with tanks and missiles. It all makes sense now.
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>>537322172
or they can just leave Ukraine

dude, just go back home
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>>537322172
So what you're saying is the gloves are REALLY coming off this time. For realsies
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>>537321908
I don't think Russians are this stupid btw. I really do believe that they have one of the best sung languages. Stupid people can't accomplish that. But, they've been drunk on their own bullshit for so long it makes me wonder.
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Really the Norks are coming out of this brilliantly.
It was what, 6 years ago that Un was weeping on stage that he had failed his people, that Covid and hunger and all the rest had dashed his dreams....
Now they have a thriving industry providing Joe Vatnik with his Ukrainian Suicide Package, select troops getting valuable modern warfare experience (those that live), and his commanders are getting their feet wet in actual 21st century conflict with zero risk to the Homeland.
A Win/Win/Win for North Korea!
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>>537315520
You keep depopulating youreslves with 1 ukie to 7 dead rusniggers
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>>537322334
No they can't anymore. The road for a compromise was closed by incompetent NATO strategists. Russia withdrawing would make the Kremlin appear so weak, that not just one oblast and its strong man would go for autonomy, and therefore trigger the nuclear doctrine with Nato identified as the source of the end of Russia as a political entity.

Its locked, the outcome can't be changed anymore. Its not anymore a question about if, its a question about when
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>>537322334
>dude, just go back home
Putin's PRIDE and LEGACY are on the line here. Believe me, Americans know about having a leader who makes calls based on his ego.
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>>537322172
>You have to let us do what we want or we'll nuke everyone
Yeah that's not gonna happen. It's a shitty doctrine
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>>537322506
>The road for a compromise was closed by incompetent NATO strategists.
Yeah, it's sound strategy to just keep letting the Russians redraw borders every couple of years. That won't further encourage this bullshit at all.
Oh Wait. It already did!
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>>537322506
>we lost so we're gonna chimp out
You're making the case for nuking Russia
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>>537312992
The FSB is only interested in maintaining a Slavic killzone with its Jewish partners.

Also, nobody wants to see a nuke fly because it would expose the entire deterrence scam. You could launch all nukes today and all you'd get are couple million dead from fires.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG77GTzKD7M
from moscow

not only is it a warzone with explosions and rifle bursts heard, but it is full of arabs, a nigger is visible, and a mystery mutt fetches an RPG
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>>537322506
Kremlin elites won't even let Putin nuke, because they know they're gonna lose all their shit.
Why would they want to go down with Putin.
They'd take their chances by ousting him from power and saying the war was his fault
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>>537322506
>you need to let Putin have a chimp out otherwise he will huke everyone

how about you go fuck yourself?
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>>537322555
That's what Russias nuclear doctrine is. You cannot like it, it doesn't change that it exists. Btw shill, why are you in the USA and not on the front, if you feel so strong about having to defeat Russia? We both know, you are not willing to sacrifice your life for your ideas, you want somebody else to do it, coward
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>>537322636
How many muslims can you conscript to their deaths before it becomes "le problem?" back home?
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>>537322627
5 post nafo troon wants to nuke the world because he will never be a woman
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>>537322696
>My 40 IQ reply! Take that!
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>>537322786
>t. Jamal-Kareem Hernandez Chong Junior
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>>537322759
LMAO. it literally took you a few minutes to dig into the "troon" bag. I fucking called it!
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>>537322589
Nobody stops you taking a plane to Lemberg and be on the front by tomorrow afternoon.
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>>537322847
Oh and the classic "ur brown".
Goddamn you guys are some fucking geniuses.
Seriously, just take the rest of your pride and walk away.
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>>537322740
like zero, they are the privileged class there
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>>537322886
Your Russian pals are doing a fine job dying without my involvement (aside from my tax dollars). Eat shit Vatnik.
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>>537322729
>>537322729
Well we're not going to let you do whatever you want. Your move.

Also I don't want Russia defeated. I want piles and piles of dead ziggers. And I will happily drone them myself. It sounds like a real BLAST.
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>>537322759
ʻ

>>537322886
What's stopping you from going to the front yourself?
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>>537322678
The Kremlin "elite" are the Putin camp retard. And the retarded NATO strategy has put that group at the exact point where it now is. It can lose power and watch Russia end as political entity or take down the external enemies with it and cripple its internal competition as well by proxy of retaliation strikes
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>>537313077
>m-muh nooks
Overplayed that hand 4+ years ago, no one gives a shit now
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>>537322857
You every post reeks of faggotry
All you do all day long is dispute facts by calling people Russian spys on VPNs
You have everyone's IP adresses so obviously you are a glownigger faggot paid to be here

>https://www.rt.com/russia/640632-homosexuality-mental-illness/
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>>537323027
This is going to end up making the American catastrophe of Vietnam look like the victory at the Battle of Cannae. At least Washington D.C. wasn't being mortared by the Viet Cong.
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>>537323048
Why should I? I have an interest in Nato and Russia exterminating each other. I am comfy in a non-Nato territory that is one among 6 on the entire continent that has a chance to remain an existing political entity after a nuclear exchange.
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>>537323151
I don't KNOW he's a Russian faglord, but he's at least a Putin cocksucker, that's Vatnik enough for me. They are only slightly less cancerous than the Miggers.
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>>537323097
Either way, Russia ends as a country.
But if it doesn't use a nuke, their clans might keep some of their wealth.
After all, if they strike NATO capitals, a lot of their rich kids will die too
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>>537323257
So you're a Pooperpower using a VPN?
SHOCKING
Good morning (saar).
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>>537323048
Because unlike you and your jewish master in Kiev I want peace. Its funny you think when I said
>Leeeeee'eeee Nooooo
Your faggot brain thinks that proved I am a Russian spy. How do you know it was me? that was 3 weeks ago.
You troons grasp onto these illusions and wont let go, like how you pretend to be a woman.
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>>537323257
The wind blows unpredictably
And if you're in the middle, fallout will reach you too
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>>537323363
nah man, you ain't no spy, you are just a cocksucker
plain and simple
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>>537323363
Are the troons in the basement with you right now?
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>>537323363
Except you didn't type that, you wrote
>>536022871
>Le noooʻooo
What the fuck is ʻ?
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>>537323316
There is a continues move of Russians to non-nato countries. Not a coincidence
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>>537312992
If they really are desperate, then they will bomb the factories in europe that produce the drones, and their problem is solved.

Luckily they decided to invade ukraine before they could reach this level of firepower with all their country intact; imagine wasting more time posturing like democraticucks wants lmao
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>>537323316
The only way this escalates into a nuclear exchange is if was all premeditated.
it all was planned out way beforehand. All of this, and if you can't see that they've set all this up even using Hollywood actors. Everything going on in the world is connected.

it does seem like a whole lot of work went into whatever they are actually planning
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Not a military strategist, but feel like a nuke threat every other month for four years straight is pretty stupid.
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>>537313686
Youre doing it for free btw. And if not. Your pay cant possibly be that high for this lmao
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>>537323519
And exactly how did your faggot brain come to the conclusion.that proved I am paid by Russia on a VPN?
YOU know who I am and that I am posting from NY.
COME GET ME GLOWNIGGER

ALL you are doing is proving everyone supporting ukraine here is paid to do so
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>>537323370
Iodine is a thing, you know.
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>>537312992
>retard opinion
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>>537322636
It’s ok, according to pol Russia has always been a Muslim shitskins infested shithole and therefore they are based and redpilled and can wage war on Europe
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>>537323027
you can't even get out of bed because you're too fat. stfu and kys
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>>537323634
>and if you can't see that they've set all this up even using Hollywood actors
Sometimes military incompetence is military incompetence. Thus it has been for thousands of years. Publius Quinctilius Varus wasn't a Hollywood Crisis actor either.
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>>537323701
Quote the post where I accused you of being Russian.

>I am posting from NY
>can't prove it
I look forward to your continued seething and nigger babbling

What the fuck is ʻ?
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>>537323714
iodine only works against fallout from nuclear fuel (reactors), not nuclear bombs

different isotopes
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>>537323766
I don't have to leave the bed to drone your ass
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>>537323337
No. Its in my interest to see Germany, France, the Benelux and other Nato countries cease to exist as political entities, as it opens a realistic lane for an Alpine Republic becoming the dominant power player in Europe
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>>537323805
Why are you using a USA flag today?
Since you know who I am the minute I make one post obviously you know I am posting from NY.
Its like your faggot brain is broken

>The Pentagon has seen no evidence that Ukrainian strikes on Russian civilian infrastructure have reduced Moscow’s military capability, a senior defense official told American lawmakers on Wednesday.

>Since January, Ukraine has launched over a dozen long-range attacks on Russian energy facilities, including oil depots and refineries, using kamikaze drones to damage several targets. Celeste Wallander, the US Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs, was asked about the tactics and Washington’s concerns regarding them, during a congressional hearing.

>Responding to Representative Carlos Gimenez, the Pentagon official said that “so far” the approach did not seem to have affected the Russian military.

>“The strikes that we have seen against Russian energy sources have not significantly altered Russia’s ability to prosecute the war,” she said.

>“The evidence we’ve seen is that the Russians have been able to rapidly repair the facilities that were struck,” she added, when the Democratic representative from Florida asked whether such attacks could have a greater impact in the future.
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It's the same Great Power problem:
>Surround yourself with sycophants and ambitious semi-talents
>They tell you what you most want to hear
>"We'll achieving fantastic, eternal victory at little cost!"
>Do it
>Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck!
>cope with K/D ratio or other stupid shit
This is exactly why China does nothing.
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>>537312992
I really hope the European union is preparing for the impending Russian regime collapse. This is a very unique opportunity to bring Russia back where it belongs, amongst Europe. Work together, rebuild, look toward the future. An Europe with a functional Russian ally would make us relevevant again. ((knowing the EU though, they're probably drooling at their desks right now))
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>>537323968
>Why are you using a USA flag today?
I use a burger flag every day, because I'm a burger. Keep deflecting, kike. Why can't you answer what ʻ is?

>I am posting from NY
Prove it
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>>537323968
>He's going full Schizo now
The better question is why you are spending the day arguing with Feds I guess?
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>>537323827
It does, depending on the material. And anyway, fallout doesn't permanently remains, its a temporary inconvenience that can be prepared for outside the blast radius
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>>537312992
This means russia is winning, chud.
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>>537312992
It's ogre.
Ukrainian heroes burned Moscow down, Putler is fleeing the ruins of the Kremlin on foot. (No gas in Russia, Ukrainian drones destroyed all of Russia's gasoline.)
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>>537324164
Oof, its this bad huh?
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>>537324038
If Russia ceases to exist as political entity, so does Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Germany, France... And don't count on EU non nato countries to cooperate with your western European nuclear wastelands
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>>537324164
Ouchies.
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>>537324264
Please only respond to me if you have an IQ with at least three digits, thank you
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>>537324264
Russia is not Putin, Putin is not Russia. Russia was a thing centuries before Putin, will likely be in some form centuries after your Philosopher King dies on the toilet or becomes sad and commits Russian Suicide (ties hands behind back, three bullets to back of head, out a 10th story window).
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>>537324318
Shill, your country is going to cease to exist this year.
>>537324380
Russia is the Kremlin and the Kremlin is the old KGB boy club around Putin, and there is currently just one group able to keep Russia with a hard hand together, the old KGB boy club. There is no alternative that wouldn't be instantly challenged and before that happens the nukes fly
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>>537324622
>Russia is the Kremlin
200 years from now the KGB will be considered an unfortunate glitch. You have no sense of history. Admittedly your Russian history is centuries of necks beneath boots, but it's not inescapable Destiny.
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>>537324380
>>537324622
The KGB was run by ukrainians
Discord nafo troons
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>>537313273
Depends where the nukes are pointed at, China needs trade partners with stable and thriving economies.
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>>537324689
I wouldn't worry too much about 200 years down the road, what matters is the now, millenarian libtardian cultist, and the trigger that destroys the game board, Russia under existential thread as a political unified entity, which increases with every weakening of the KGB club. But as said, I am just narrating what is happening anyway. With no fluff
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>>537324754
What's wrong, can't prove you're actually physically located in burgerstan?
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>>537324264
>Shilling so hard for the eradication of white countries
Go back to Serbia
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Ukraine army is powerful as fuck. They're literally defining the meta in modern warfare.
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>>537324764
Not really. china needs reliable energy sources. And a Russia that triggered its nuclear doctrine is the perfect opportunity to send a few platoons of bug people to the north and integrate Eastern oblasts with oil and gas into the empire
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>>537318491
what really happens if nooks fly:


>AI, if a nuclear bomb of 10 megatons explodes over europe and the missile was designed to be at the point of causing maximum possible damage, how serious would be the emp?

>A 10-megaton surface or low-altitude detonation optimized for maximum damage in Europe would produce an extraordinarily powerful electromagnetic pulse (EMP) with devastating consequences. Here's the breakdown:

>EMP Effects:
>Gamma Radiation Surge:
>Gamma rays ionize the upper atmosphere, creating relativistic electrons spiraling along magnetic field lines—the core EMP mechanism.
>E1 Pulse (Nanoseconds):
>~50,000 V/m within 600 km. Fries electronics instantly—microchips melt, grids see 10,000+ amp surges. Computers, phones, vehicles become scrap.
>E2 Pulse (Microseconds):
>Continental-scale lightning discharge. Destroys backup systems.
>E3 Pulse (Seconds-Minutes):
>Geomagnetic currents surge through power lines. Transformers explode—grid collapses.

>Secondary Impacts:
>Blackout: Years
>Transport: No fuel pumps or signals.
>Food: Refrigeration fails; starvation within weeks.
>Finance: Digital records lost; cash useless.
>A 10 Mt burst over Frankfurt sends Europe to the 18th century—billions starving, no infrastructure to rebuild.

>TL;DR: Civilization-ending EMP effects. The blast/radiation would kill tens of millions; the EMP would doom the survivors.


nooks fly for real = half of the people you know will die in the cholera epidemic; a portion of them will try to kill you too; you always looked tasty.
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>>537314846
vacation in tel aviv this summer?
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>>537324916
Lmfao. Please tell me I am supposed to root for rewarding traitors and socialist opportunists amongst polity, mercenaries and other scum because they are huwhite.
Ahahahahahahahahahaha
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>>537318491
>So it will probably push NATO to stop being neutral
Uhhh, lol.
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>>537325045
You are a fake nation.
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>>537325133
Dilate shill
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>>537325133
Bro a city block in Moscow has more people then your nation state lets find a different insult
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>>537319004
Anon, there's only 2 powers in Europe with nuclear weapons and both of them would not have the capacity to survive the first strike or offer the potential for a second strike.
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>>537325246
Well no, not people. Russians aren't people like you and me. Russians are "people" like how Nigerians are "people"
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>>537313077
HAHAHAHA
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>>537321975
>>Russians are retards eager to commit nuclear suicide
Anon, they're not repairing much, they have to take it two subs for France and that nation is gone as a nuclear threat, 0 for Britain.
Are you hoping that the United States wants to die with you?
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>>537325340
If you feel so strongly about this, why not take a plane to Lemberg and go kill and potentially die for your ideals? Right you are a coward
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>>537321678
Today is a good day for the end of the world.
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>>537322524
You'll place nuclear weapons in Ukraine if they do and that's what they're trying to prevent.
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>>537325256
UK keeps their nukes on subs. You can't disable them before they retaliate since you won't know where they are.
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>>537317359
How will you respond when Ukraine keeps droning Russia?
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>>537325397
America spends good money on missiles that can hit anywhere on the planet. I don't have to leave my house to kill you.
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>>537325179
There is no distinct Austrian ethnicity. You are just Germans, larping as an independent country.
>>537325246
And our blood still exists long since the stone age and we have our own nation. We have the right to self-determination.

I can't even tell if you are a shitskin or some white mutt at this point, because your country makes no sense. Ngl, it would be better if your shithole didn't exist. It has brought nothing of value to this world, only degeneracy.
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>>537325256
not about to suck off our nuclear deterrent since the fact we rely on the mutts for the trident missiles and maintenance is abominable but our deterrent is built around submarines permanently away from the mainland for the explicit purpose of second strike capabilities
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>>537325526
You personally? No of course not, you are too much of a coward to kill or die for what you pretend to believe in, you want somebody else to do it, taxed slave
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>>537324973
Bullshit.
I just did a simulation with Berlin and the fallout would stay within 62km
Picrel
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The fact that the Russians in this thread either have to hide under VPNs or post from whatever country they've fled to to avoid the kill-bots speaks volumes to the quality of their situation.

Amazing that you can posture and boast at the same time. Russians need to aspire to something beyond being bullied by low IQ thugs, and good luck.
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>>537325610
>you are too much of a coward to kill or die for what you pretend to believe in, you want somebody else to do it
>Why should I? I have an interest in Nato and Russia exterminating each other. I am comfy in a non-Nato territory that is one among 6 on the entire continent that has a chance to remain an existing political entity after a nuclear exchange.
What's it like having no self awareness?
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>>537312992
9/11 was more shamefur than some drones on a refinery near Moscow.
By so many magnitudes even that people prefer to believe it was an inside job, kek
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>>537325560
Shill, do I sound like I give a flying fuck about muah huwhite race let alone mush Austrian race. Your scripts are hopelessly outdated, minimum wage fail propaganda mercenary
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>>537325610
What I believe in is self defense, and making invaders pay dearly, with piles of their dead.
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>>537322495
>1 ukie to 7 dead rusniggers
>finnigger actually believes those numbers
what's next? russia on the verge of a total collapse (since early 2000s)? kek.
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>>537325750
>to avoid the kill-bots
Shieet nigga, how many Russians were killed by the kill-bots tho?
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>>537325771
I have an interest in Nato countries and Russia mutually exterminating each other, so why the fuck should I risk my own life when both sides are doing a fine job killing each other
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>>537313077
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>>537325847
They clearly have yet to reach their pre-set Kill Limits.
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>>537325886
>2010s style shill image macro
GenX, its time to accept that your little p2p marketing operation is not just a failure but serves interests that stand diametrically against your intentions
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>>537325834
Russia will never collapse despite spending gorillions of rubles in the war and ukrainian drones fucking their energy infras because russians are retarded subhumans who cannot live without a strongman. Their culture is basically rape or get raped, and they enjoy both. That's why despite the massive landmass, massive amount of natural resources, it's still a shithole because the mind-raped russians are happy as long as the siloviks are well-fed
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Can't remember who it was, but even some zigger propagandist pointed out that no one is afraid of Russia. Lucky he's not in charge in case he's slightly less retarded.
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>>537326002
>48pbtid
KEK
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>>537326002
Oh you can hear it, if you listen quietly.
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>>537326045
What a cope. It shows that you are well aware that Russia stopping to be a unified political entity that whatever nato shithole hides behind this meme flag ceases to exist as well
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>>537325750
>26 post nafo troon pretending its not paid to be here
Funny how ukraine has zero organic support
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>>537326138
How desperate is your shill group. You have been spamming about 120 threads on this script, with an average reply rate of 6, and this is the only thread on the theme that has survived. You are fucking failures
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>>537326220
Got anything to say about your 49pbtid buttbuddy? Or about ʻ?
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>>537326284
You should spam more threads. Make it 200
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>>537326165
The Soviet Union, a much scarier beast, stopped being a unified political entity and it was.....actually a lot of nothing.
You and your dime-store Stalin just ain't very scary.
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>>537326256
Moscow AA failed completely thats for sure kek.
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>>537312992
>>537313077
>OOK NOOOK
you told me russia already won, what happened, trannylovers?
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Anyway, thanks to all the fail p2p marketing failures having taken the bait again. The review is again going to be disfavorable and a good dozen of you are out of a contract
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>>537313286
I wish Ukraine would die already, the cringe is too much
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Or let's revisit what happened when RUSSIA collapsed as a political entity under the Czar.
Millions of dead Russians and a lot of nothing.
It's a history-loop.
>Dead Russians
>New Boot
>Dead Russians
>New Boot
>Dead Russians....
>>
Budget is very tight and you are a waste of resources that can't even advertise a win
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>>537326537
>52pbtid
post something that proves you’re austrian with a timestamp
passport cover or austrian product etc
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>>537326723
You really don't get it don't you.
The contractors failed to follow the instructions
The contractors get shitcanned
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I figure when it reaches 5 million dead Russians, it will be time for a new Boot fitting.
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>>537313778
Ideally Ukrainians would becomes Russian citizens so you are asking for Russia to commit mass Genocide of their future people
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>>537326822
vpn jeet confirmed
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>>537326840
nothing hates russians more than their own state.
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>>537326914
Historically Accurate.
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>>537326852
you don't get it.
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>>537326852
>>537325788
>what could have given it away?



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