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It is honestly disconcerting how many people in the USA are incapable of understanding the difference between vengeance and self-defense.
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Bump, you fools!
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what the FUCK
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>>537316968
In these situations there are levels of force that can be used as a self-defense argument. Is it even true this karmelo guy was pushed? I only see people on the internet make this claim. It’s possible there is no self-defense claim at all. Let’s assume though the white kid did push the black kid. It is self-defense to push him back. It is self-defense to punch him. It is not self-defense to immediately stab him in the heart. That is extreme and is not protected as a form of self-defense. Why is this so hard to understand?

If the roles were reversed and it was a black kid who shoved a white kid, only for the white kid to overreact and stab the black kid, you would be fine with the white mid going to jail even if the black kid didn’t die. Most of society would be fine with that because they understand it’s a level of escalation involving a deadly weapon and attempt to kill the other person.
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>>537318729
Every witness say he was the aggressor even the black coach, secondly he was suspended and carrying a knife on school grounds which is armed trespassing and thirdly he was rummaging through people’s items before it was raining
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>>537318729
It technically would not be self defense to punch or even push him back unless he kept coming and was still perceived as a threat (I doubt this occurred). Metcalf shoving him does count as assault, but just because someone has assaulted you doesn't give you the right to follow them home and assault them back. What you have is the right to charge them with assault. However, if Karmelo had punched him in response and then Metcalf fell and hit his head on the ground and died, that wouldn't be murder.
Ultimately, he killed him because Metcalf disrespected him. That's how hood / thug culture works, and it's shocking how many people (not just blacks) agree with the concept, and don't see any difference between doing that and legitimately defending your life. They feel that once someone has shown you a certain level of disrespect, you are allowed to kill them. Obviously this goes against so much of our specific civilization's foundational ethos.
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>>537316968
Your mistake is conflating people with niggers. The latter will come up with whatever justification their 75 IQ brains can squeeze out for why their little murderer dindu nuffin. The only thing that matters in whatever semblance of a moral framework their undeveloped prefrontal cortex can conjure up is whether the primate in question looks like them.
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>>537319444
It's not just blacks. And I'm actually giving blacks specifically the benefit of the doubt and assuming a lot of them don't believe this logic whatsoever and are supporting him despite knowing he's 100% guilty à la OJ.
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>>537320052
That's what I'm saying. To most pavement apes, racial alignment is more important than justice or morality. They are incompatible with civilization, and pretending otherwise is the western world's poison pill.
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>>537320308
There are a minority of good ones, and whether you like it or not America is fundamentally far too tied to ideas of meritocracy and individualism to lump them in with the rest.
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>>537316968

Niggers will defend their own no matter what. What I’m fore upset about is why white people can’t be this tribalistic too. Unfortunately our Jewish ulster Scot overlords will say things like, le tribalism is bad because it makes the weak set the lace, or it’s bad cause it’s collectivist and therefore socialist
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>>537321122
So you want white people to stop believing in things like justice and ethics so they can act more like the groups of people you hate?
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oh they know, they just dont care when it happens to some one outside the nigger jew circle after they got (you) to stop from looking at race
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>>537316968
American media pushes this vigilante fantasy where someone slights you and thus you have free reign to enact as much violence as you want in return.
Think of how many movies you watched growing up that had some variation of the "guy in a bar is kind of a dick to the protagonist so he beats the shit out of that guy and his friends to show he's a badass" scene. No consequences, no police reports, just cathartic violence that was "justified" by the other guy being a bit of an asshole and that made the two other guys standing near him fair game too.
This is fiction, but humans are stupid and even if we conciously know something is fiction if we see the same pattern repeat itself over and over again in technically different situations we internalize it at least a little bit.
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>>537321218

Yes. Because niggers and their hand holders will exploit white institutions
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>>537321614
>beats the shit out of
That's the key, though. They beat them up, they don't kill them.
>>537321787
If you successfully turn whites into niggers, they're not going to just magically turn that off when you want them to.
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>>537316968
You're a fucking retard if you don't realize nigs are race first above everything else when th situation involves a non-nig, especially a white. Civilization and law is irrelevant to them, they simply hate whites.
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>>537316968
They understand. There's no nuance here. The blacks knew he was guilty as hell and support him anyway because he killed one of their White betters. They just hate White people and want us all dead.
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>>537318729
Parents (a contentious principal for blacks) expect their children to be somewhat safe at school because they are busy at work (another contentious principal for blacks) so they can't be there to watch out for them. Hence why schools have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to fighting and weapons regardless of self-defense laws or weapon carrying laws.
If you stab a kid at school you're going to jail. If the kid didn't die he probably would have also gotten assault charges.
There was no world where the state says "its ok to bring a knife to school and stab someone that you think is offending/disrespecting/bullying/shoving/hitting/kicking etc".
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>>537322757
*principle
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>>537318729
>In these situations there are levels of force that can be used as a self-defense argument
yeah deadly force and not deadly force. if karmelo punched him back it would probably be considered mutual combat from a legal POV but it wouldn't matter because it's unlikely anyone would catch charges for a high school fist fight.
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>>537320873
>There are a minority of good ones
Cosby was always touted as "one of the good ones".
So was OJ.
So was Will Smith.
See a pattern yet?
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>>537323550
Cool, now do white nationalists
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>>537320873
>muh not all
You are effeminate
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>>537324007
I explicitly noted that was a cultural observation instead of a personal value statement
I'm not sure how much more explicit I had to make it
You are not going to replace the entirety of the American ethos with Nazism within your lifetime so you're going to have to work with what you got
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>>537324268
I've never heard a white person go on the news and call white jurors "coons" for convicting a white murderer.
Even the studies that "prove" white jurors are racist against blacks also proves that blacks are less likely to convict a guilty black person.
They released the statements given by jurors that were the reasons for their exclusion and they were "i wouldn't feel right sending a black boy to jail" after he admitted to killing another kid. Literally 100% of the blacks on the jury panel were excluded for those kinds of statements. All of them. Thats kinda scary.
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>>537316968
Niggers dont know that difference btw
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>>537324947
Okay, and? I never said most black people weren't awful
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>>537319242
It's not being an aggressor being angry at someone that refuses to leave you alone and intentionally in an area they arent supposed to be.
If I'm in your home or around your family being pigheaded, and you don't like what Im doing, nYOU are the aggressor by your own definition.
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>>537316968
Let's print such a t-shirt and send it to him as a gift!
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>>537325195
>a lot of them don't believe this logic
Its less than you think. Out of a pool of random blacks in that community, during this trial, 100% of them were openly racially biased. Then a lot more went on national news all over the country espousing the same bias.
Is it the majority of blacks? I would be surprised if the answer wasn't yes.
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>>537325738
They can be openly racially biased and also believe the OP logic, though. Or just believe whatever bullshit that gets passed around their community (like Umar Johnson saying Metcalf fell on the knife), the same way everyone legitimately believed Kyle Rittenhouse shot a bunch of black people because someone on social media started saying it and no one thought to check. It's hard to tell because they're stupid but they're not stupid enough to say that he's guilty and they don't care.
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>>537316968
Niggers legitimately do not differentiate between ego wounds and physical wounds. They're dangerous chimps
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>>537316968
lmfao i somehow missed the crucial detail that his family got the payout from that phony holy roller crowdfunding site
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>>537326867
I cant help but think his family knew he was guilty, were super pissed at him for drawing down the ire of the country down on them, and were only saving face and repeating bullshit they were told to say to the race hucksters in a last ditch effort to salvage a bad situation. Why else would they not get him an actual lawyer?



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