>>537320638
Ok. Now what?

>>537320638
That sink shall not pass.

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>>537320638
They deserved it. They were too cocky.

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>>537320638
Not the first time, won't be the last.

>The US loses a few planes and 300 billion
>Iran loses it's entire air force, navy and ruling and military class, nuclear ambitions and control of the strait and are now the US's bitch.
Yep, the US lost again.

Again?!

>>537320638
Not the first time, won't be the last.

>>537320638
Has happened like every year for the past 30 years, and before that on and off. We were never actually good at wars, we just fight a lot of them because it causes industrial booms

>>537322120
Shit either hive mind or I'm a bot.

>>537322052
I honestly can't tell if this is bait or how miggers actually think kek

>>537320638
No, it wasn't, you retarded brown faggot.

>>537322052
A cope as old as Vietnam. We failed to achieve any objectives. A humiliating defeat because the military is not a magic wand. The sooner your dumb ass learns that, the better.

>>537322141
>industrial booms
Jews figured a small war here and there spikes the economy.
War is profit plus Jews love killing other brown people and young white military.
Win-win.

>>537322052
>iran loses entire air force
Verifiably untrue, with iranian aircraft strafing Kurds in Iraq all day for the past few months.
>navy
Why American ships go through hormuz, again? Why are a ton of submarines unaccounted for?
>ruling class
1 (one) leader and some clerics. The president, his vice president, whoever is after that, and millions of clerics are still there and are just more radical now.
>military class
What does this mean? Iran uses officers, and militaries are inherently resistant to this because they can just promote more officers. Either way, not many officers died, and definitely not enough to shock are army with millions of people in it.
>nuclear ambitions
Threatening countries is supposed to make them LESS driven to create defensive weapons? The mission to capture uranium in Istafan got raped at the airfield.
>control of the strait
They controlled the entire strait the entire war, and while the final peace deal is unclear, American control of the strait is unlikely.
>now the US bitch
They hate us, we'll probably be forced to withdraw from the gulf, and we're paying them for their damages with interest. We got raped

>>537322268
It's impossible to tell because we hear this about every war we lose. "The military didn't lose, the government did" or some such cope. It's complete retardery of course because the point of war is not to kill more people and win nothing from it.

>>537322052
Real life wars are not decided by Call of Duty KDA leaderboards

>>537320638
America gets btfo all the time

>>537320638
but israel won.

>>537322052
Is that why you're paying them reparations? Lmao

American tactical victory
Decisive Iranian strategic victory

>>537322141
its over now
That situation was dependent on power projection doctrine
Drones have completely invalidated that doctrine
The more expensive your equipment, the more likely you are to lose a conflict now because you cant risk high value assets
I believe something very significant happened related to this during the conflict

kill-death-ratio is pretty good i guess

America's military strength is shock and awe. When it works, it works amazingly well. When it doesn't, they get bogged down and end up wasting bazillions of dollars. As stupid as this Iran war was, Trump ending it like this was probably the best outcome. You don't want to fall for the sunken cost fallacy like Putin.

>>537322690
Yeah probably. An economy and foreign policy based on constant global terror campaigns can't last forever.

>>537322551
Most call of duty gamemodes aren't decided by kda anyway

>>537320638
Jew wars aren't mean to be won or lost in a conventional sense. They're proxy wars or money laundering wars for the MIC or other interested middle managers of global finance. People need to stop pretending like the US military couldn't clean sweep any country on the planet if it fought with actual imperial intention.

>>537322690
>>537322775
The trillion dollar carrier expedition got sent home by a 500 dollar drone , it's the invention of the gun again

>>537320870
now he keeps seething about US 24/7

>>537322827
Shows what I know, I don't actually play Call of Duty

>>537322639
US pays to rebuild every country it goes to war with

>>537322891
Not really, it's just the faggoted and restrained way of fighting modern wars. What did those carrier expeditions actually try to accomplish? They should have been launching scorched earth attacks against every major Iranian city, obliterating every power station, every highway, every train line, every shipyard, and causing millions of civilian deaths. What good is a drone when your entire country was reduced to rubble overnight? But US doesn't fight wars like that anymore because actually killing your enemy is "mean". Japan gets nuked but modern terrorist regimes get the soft hand because it's all fake liberal faggotry, not real war.

>>537322891
yup
Iran pre-war was developing an air to air drone platform that was ridiculously cheap
I think they started using it and were getting close to being able to hit jets, they were getting the drones with it
Its a jet drone mounted air launched infrared missile, doesnt need radar and uses existing stockpiles

>>537323112
Absolutely retarded take
The financial impact on global markets would make the US a pariah state, every country would dump bonds etc and bankrupt the US, combine that with the massive spike in fuel prices the US would crumble over night

>>537322773
>You don't want to fall for the sunken cost fallacy like Putin
America and Russia are now both firmly rooted in the camp of has-beens. They were vagueposting about their apparent military might for decades and when actually deployed (one by a senile psycho, the other by a retard) this was revealed to be hot air.

>>537323112
>Hey let's fight a war nobody wants on behalf of foreign interests , when can we start flattening hospitals ?

>>537323090
correct, going back at least as far as the 1830s and our war with mexico.

>>537323166
>being able to hit jets
90% sure thats what knocked down our fuel tanker than "randomly" crashed over iraq.

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>>537323674
Here is a vid from the last couple of days of the war
It was in southern Iran
No real assets in the area so no reason for ground based air defense
Its an Israeli F15 and its dumping everything it has and performing evasion tactics so something is chasing it, Irans ground based stuff shouldnt be able to get anywhere near it

>>537320870
The end of US dollar dominance.
The rise of China-led world.

>>537324818
All we need is for anon to vote communism

>>537323112
You go scorched earth on Iran and Iran will go scorched earth on GCC countries and Israel. When Saudi pipeline and Qatar refineries get destroyed, the whole universe will go into a recession... the likes of which you've never seen before

>>537324818
When?

>>537323336
as compared to who? retard

>>537320638
We deserved it.
I'm surprised that the USA had the restraint to not get more of our people senselessly killed than they already did. I'm sure more of our people died than they will ever admit to publicly.

>>537324818
dollar is stronger cuz of Iran war

Do dirt poor yuropeen (all of them) countries even have militaries?>>537324941

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>>537320638
>fight with one leg and arm tied behind back
>still decimate sandnigger military with ease
>'lose' because there wasn't a real plan beyond 'bomb the shit out of them for a little while'
I hate miggers as much as the next guy, but this is just retardation being spewed. If even half the preparation and planning that went into desert storm would've gone into this war then we'd be having a very different thread right now.

>>537320638
First time?

>>537320638
So like Afghanistan, Iraq, ot Vietnam

>>537322052
>>537322424
As well as failing to achieve any of our stated objectives, our clownish and incompetent commander-in-chief, Secretary of War and Congress showed our nation's collective ass to the entire world in the press for months with their idiotic brands of diplomacy and strategy.

>>537320638
Great.
Can we vote for Andrew Yang and get UBI going now?

>>537322052
typically the winner does not pay reparations

>>537322052
Iran achieved its objectives, the US did not.

>>537323307
But the US would then control oil.

The stock market is not the economy.

>>537323112
the nignited states is not capable of such things any more, outside of the use of nuclear weapons of course

>>537325863
I would probably voat for him at this point, sure.
But there needs to be a bipartisan and maybe even apolitical, entirely moral commitment among the American people that the Israel lobby has no place in this country's government anymore. I see only balkanization in the USA's future if this situation is allowed to fester for much longer.

>>537325663
my nigger in obesity, europe is the way it is because of american occupation

>>537325668
the nignited states is no longer capable of such military manoeuvres. they don't have the industrial capacity

>>537320638
It's been militarily Defeated in every war since WW2. What's new.

>>537325668
Look at this absolute /k/ope.
You lost because you are retarded.
>We lost because there wasn't any plan
Yes, that's what makes you retarded.
and you decimated nothing
>but muh Iranian navy, muh Iranian air force
Iranian military doctrine is based on asymmetric warfare... You know, drones, missiles and small boats.
You failed to destroy them.
You fucked up

>>537320638
not only militarily but also economically and betrayed by all its allies in an instant

You lost tranny. Liberal sissy bitch. Muslim piece of shit.

Entire iranian leadership dead. Their economy in shambles.

>>537320638
>1pbtid
>no argument or actual point made
This is just more third world seethe.

>>537326383
#2 at manufacturing
You cant even build a fucking sub aussie faggot.
Come back and complain when your military makes it's own shit.

>>537322052
Americans are really incapable to materialize the idea of how big 300 Billions is

Imagine 1 million dollars, now 10 million dollars, now 100 million dollars, now imagine 1 billion, now imagine 300 billion, Jesus fucking christ

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>>537327056
KABOOM

>>537327434
Thanks for proving my point, you brown third world trash

>>537327181
manufacturing dildos and HRT doesn't count. when was the last abrams hull produced? how many pac-3 interceptors do you make in a year?

>>537327560
you seem upset

>completely ignoring the part where iran capitulates to american demands to remove all nuclear material from their nation under our supervision
why are shitskin trannies like this??

>>537327570
the US can make those.
Tell me about the military vehicles you guys make in Aus. Go ahead, how about how the french screwed you over and never made any subs for you

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>>537327689
get on your knees and beg for dear life, piggy

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>>537320638
WE WERE NOT DEFEATED!!!
We just surrendered to prevent further loss of life of Iranian citizens, that's all.
It is a humanitarian victory!

>>537327758
>nonsensical subhuman babble
lmao kill yourself irrelevant flaggot

>>537327689
>to remove all nuclear material from their nation under our supervision
False
That is diluting the highly enriched uranium, IN IRAN, under the supervision of IAEA agents

>>537327434
Fucking kino

>>537322052
Cope ans seethe lmao

You can tell Iran lost because shitskins keep spamming it lol

>>537324941
>Oy vey goy if you fight real wars then jewish global finance will collapse and things will be bad!
Kind of the point you retards can't seem to understand, isn't it? These fat modern faggots want to fight their goylem wars for Israel in very gay, un-imperial ways that preserve jewish global finance hegemony and don't rock the boat too much. The correct response to this faggotry is, "then don't fight the fucking wars at all". During WW2 no one gave two fucks about "recessions" or other consequences because it was an existential war for survival. Modern wars are fought within an existing system they're trying to preserve for the exclusive benefit of the global financial class. It's completely fucking gay and retarded and enabled by the pearl clutching of fat consumer zombies who couldn't stand the thought of their 401K dipping. My entire point was that the US isn't an actual paper tiger, it's just restrained by the modern state of unfathomable faggotry and weakness perpetuated by jewish globalist and enabled by soft consumer hordes of dysgenic, effeminized fags.

American power relies solely on their imaginary banking power backed up by massive military. China can literally produce hypersonic missiles 400x cheaper right now. The market can't save you anymore. Most of academia in the West is also fully subverted. Professors with long careers based on total horseshit won't tell you to straight up commit suicide, they teach you how to effectively kill your whole collective and it is seen as education.

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>>537327856
shut your mongrel ass up

>>537320638
Defeats like this would have been an invitation to go into their personal study with a stiff drink and a revolver 150 years ago

>>537328175
You will always be a nigger colored spic lol

>>537328002
>its not a paper tiger
>its just completely incapable of winning any conflicts it engages in
Thats called being a paper tiger

>>537328250
Oh you dont like niggers and spics?

So clearly you want American ethnostates, correct?

>>537326043
How the fuck would you
You would need to deploy most of your army to control the supply and Iran would most likely trash the infrastructure before giving it up
This is not Iraq

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>>537328250
You just insulted 90% of your military

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>>537320638
Absolutely delusional. Stay in your shit hole.

>>537328267
You obviously don't understand the distinction I'm making. A "paper tiger" isn't functionally capable of winning a conflict. The US could go scorched Earth and wipe Iran off the face of the Earth tomorrow. They have that military capability. What they lack is the will. It's not a paper tiger, it's a faggot tiger.

for the amount of kvetching this is exploded in israel I say its worth every penny
kikes never got no 300 billion package deal before
Israel Lost
the west wins
let the money printers go brrrrr
nothing about how you twist this can demoralize me, I see 300 billion NOT GOING INTO A JEWS POCKET.
it might not be a major, super duper win, but it is a win.
Seeing trump finally stand up to Israel, even if it is just for show, contents me.
I will sleep well on my MAGA awoo custom pillow tonight, knowing kikes are mad Iran got a bigger payout in one go than israel ever did, and the war they have wanted with Iran for so long has just been cancelled
mmmmmmmm feeling them chill vibes

>>537328418
Look at the thirdie seethe about other better countries.
He calling us mutts when he's a filthy mesitzo is rather amusing.

>>537328002
You are an idiot.
You can't compare 2026 with >muh WW2 in the 40s. Today's economy is built on interdependence and a delicate network of global supply chain.
The things that you call "gay and retarded" or "weakness and faggotry" are the foundations that let you come into this website and write your bullshit theories.
Your bravery and chivalry won't help you when you have no money for your weekly groceries.

>>537328344
How did every imperial civilization in all of human history pull it off? You defeatist, demoralist jewish faggots act like these concepts are novel. The entirety of European history has been conquering people and controlling/extracting their resources. Your retarded country would be nothing but a backwater swamp without that dynamic. Yet now you clutch your goy pearls and say, "oy vey goy, but the locals will trash stuff!" okay so exterminate them. That's what's really lacking; the will. People want to play at empire but do it in the most pussified, PR friendly way. Either do it right, or don't do it at all.

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>>537328519
>Manlet incel talking

>>537328483
Ah, I had misunderstood your first post. My bad

>>537328519
So I can presume then that you also want a white ethnostate and want to deport every single jeet, jew, and muslim in North America, correct?

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>>537328525
The modern economy isn't magically dependent on fantasy and digital goyslop; it's still dependent on the core natural resources, land, manpower, labour, etc that it always has been since the very beginning of time. The garbage you're describing is the secondary and tertiary parasitic economies that have been layered on top of the real economy for decades to keep financial parasites and their PMC goylem consumers fat and happy like the retards they are. The fact that you actually believe the functional economy depends on a "delicate network of global supply chain" when North America has some of the largest land, natural resources, and manpower available in human history, shows how much of a faggot you really are.

>>537328704
well duh, some asians are okay though

>>537328739
>dependent on the core natural resources, land, manpower, labour
Yes, and it's not as localised as it was in the 40s, it's too global now and highly interdependent.
Even if you want to harvest the full potential of North America, you can't just cut it off the global supply chain like a retard and try to build it from the ground afterwards.
You need a long-term, strategic plan for a smooth transition.
There is no way a country, especially north American, would benefit from a crippled global energy network, neither in short term, nor in long term.
USA didn't go scorched earth on Iran not because they are cowards , but because they know the consequences are too high.

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>>537320638
What does it want now!?

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Wtf has Iran ever even done to us? We should not have been fighting them in the first place. If Israel wants to pick a fight they can fight their own battle instead of hiding behind us like a bunch of scurrying rats

>>537320638
>The United States was just militarily defeated
>Let that sink in
Jew detected

This doesn't impact America at all

>>537322522
>the point of war is not to kill more people and win nothing from it.
Or is it? The US is ruled by kikes after all and they are at war with humanity, their Talmud says so.

>>537327708
lmao we didn't fight a war for jews and then lose it. answer my questions obese nigger

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>>537328713
Pachu, quick, they reverted your edit back!

>>537329694
Lol, you guys barely even have a military
you're like britain with more admirals than hips.

>>537322599
Then why do we still run the show? We own all of you. We invade and kill presidents and nothing happens to us LOL

>>537327928
>The Islamic Republic of Iran reaffirms that it shall not procure or develop nuclear weapons. United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran have agreed to resolve the disposition of stockpile enriched material pursuant to a mechanism that will be mutually agreed upon in accordance with the schedule mentioned in Paragraph 7 with the minimum methodology to be downblending on site under the supervision of the IAEA.
do you lack the ability to read & comprehend? In legal terms, disposition refers to the transfer of property or assets to another person/entity. iran's dreams of a nuclear bomb are kaput.

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>>537329787
You lost, mutty

>>537325911
The US has a history of bombing countries black and blue then paying for their rebuilding. Hell, we even showed up to help rebuild in some cases. Now that we have that settled, I can confidently inform you that you're an uneducated shitskin, you fucking nigger, now sit down and shut the fuck up.

>>537320638
It's not their first anal penetration anon.

>>537325668
>fight with one leg and arm tied behind back
USA ran out of certain missiles.

>>537322424
Vietnam was a worthless shithole America only entered half heartedly due to humanitarian concerns (north were terrorist mass murderers as usual with commie guerrillas)
Ceding the straight to Iranian control is world changing
>>537322141
It’s called controlling the height of the flame
America is never allowed to win because they hate americans for being descended from Europe

>>537329920
says who?
the mestizo from the third world country?
And what exactly do you base this on? Your military experience? You high priced education?
i'd be surprised if you even went to highschool.

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>>537329787
answer my questions you obese nigger. when was the last abrams hull made? how many pac-3 interceptors do you make a year?

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>>537329920
kek this Dominican nigger has been seething about us for most of his life

>>537330220
someone's upset
lololololololololol

Logistics wins wars. Their "carrier strike groups" are only capable of defeating military with pickup trucks and ak47. If country has industry sophisticated enough to manufacture air conditioners, they can't come within 500 miles or the wifi will get knocked out and carrier will be out of commission for 8 months.

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>>537330510
>ai slop
meanwhile, in the real world

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>>537322476
>white military

lol, lmao even

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>>537320638
Based Iranians shall forever be remembered for their victory against the kikes and their golems.

>>537322052
>>537322424
I'm old enough to remember the body count argument for why we won in 'nam.
>General William Westmoreland used body counts as a primary measure of success during the Vietnam War, believing that higher enemy casualties indicated progress in the conflict. This approach was controversial, as it often included inflated numbers and misclassified civilian deaths as enemy combatants.
Even as a child I knew bragging about your body count was fucked. The USA has always been a masonic experiment and a kike shithole.

>>537330345
You're not in charge faggot.
M1 hulls are good for decades easy.
https://www.army.mil/article/291670/u_s_army_advances_accelerated_pac_3_mse_production_through_contract_action
the pac 3s will have plenty made before long.
Now about your military production. What exactly does australia make for it's military?

>>537328609
see, this is the problem infecting militaries across the world
Its the dependence on power projection
In days of old we had guns against spears
The last decade, jets and missiles against pretty much nothing
Tanks and armour against artillery
Its all changed
How can you defend a stationary target in country when US bases across the region have been repeatedly targeted and hit
For every civilian you kill, you get 4 that are willing to fight you, add FPV's to that and you might as well just shoot each other because you are going to die anyway
Its realism, nothing to do with will
You should get a job in the MIC, you would fit right in

>>537320638
Wars of conquest are 100% lost over a long enough timeline. Just glad this one is over before it became Ukraine or Iraq

>>537330511
a low iq response for a low iq individual
i would expect nothing else from someone of your dubious provenance

>>537322967

tomorrow is friday

>>537320638
Everything seems okay around here.

>>537322052
Iran controls the strait and now everyone knows it. Iran is in a far better position now than they were before the war. This is up there for one of the most embarrassing defeats in military history and it's actually unreal how bad Americans are at war considering how much money they spend on the military. Their role as pathetic Israeli golems has been cemented.

>>537330969
lol, memeflaggot
you're a jeet paid by kikes.

Haven't they just bought enough weapons grade plutonium to rule the earth and space and stole as much oil as they wanted? While you leftists are running with the bullshit 300 billion story because you're easy to manipulate? It's been what? 15 years of daily posting about Trump and none of you have achieved anything at all. It's kinda sad at this point.

>>537329894
>do you lack the ability to read & comprehend
Do you?
It comfortably states that they have to come up with a solution regarding the nuclear stockpile in 60 days.
Far from your "iran capitulates to american demands to remove all nuclear material from their nation under our supervision"

>>537320638
It's odd to watch the American cope. Trump is literally on his knees groveling and is going to end up giving Iran over $330,000,000,000 while publicly acknowledging that Iran has complete control of the strait (something which has been blatantly obvious for months now). You got absolutely blown out and this is a complete and total victory for Iran.

>>537320638
Alright, first off, Trump is a kike for sure.
However, the peace deal is actually good for everyone.
Secondly, the US was not defeated, don’t be silly. Iran lost a ton of equipment, personnel, leadership, etc in the initial strikes. After that, their entire home area and coastline was uncontested. They used drones to keep projecting power in the Strait, sure, but that’s it. Nobody can do anything about drones right now. Plus, the US only used limited strikes. We could destroy their entire country if we wanted to do so. We could have landed 10 million troops (conscription) on the shores of Iran. But we didn’t because that’s totally unnecessary. So if we’re not even doing basic things like having boots on the ground, then how exactly did we lose militarily?

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>>537330766
I just fucked your mother. Mmmm her pussy sure was tasty

>>537331518
> muh troops
Yeah and they would have lost just like they did in Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam and basically every military conflict you enter. You talk about K/D like some retarded CoD kid but the objective fact is that your military failed at every single objective that was laid out.

>>537331527
more childishness
it's not even a good insult, it's nigger tier.

>>537331978
He's a nigger though

>>537332042
yup, so it's apropos

>>537320638
fake news, libshit. the US was never militarily defeated, the US military has never surrendered in a war, we just WIN WIN WIN WIN WIN (except when Crooked Joe Biden failed our troops in Afghanistan by pulling out our Winning Warriors)

>>537330670
so the last abraps hull was made decades ago? that's what you're saying? how about the last abraps engine? so you guys make less than 1000 pac-3 interceptors a year? that's what you're saying? how many thaad missiles do you make in a year? you are an obese nigger, your whole country is an israeli farm for producing obese niggers and spics. the nignited fats is a hasbeen country who can't fight real wars any more