>Judith Butler uses both she/her and they/them pronouns and identifies as non-binary. While they have stated a preference for "they" in their professional and personal life, both pronoun sets are officially accepted and used in discussions about their work.I'm legitimately not anti-LGBTQ but why the fuck not just stick with "she" in this situation? It's not like there's anything wrong with being a she. Just pick one, goddammit.
>>537321730Vomit please never post lesbians
>>537321730>I'm legitimately not anti-LGBTQ but why the fuck not just stick with "she" in this situation? Because the writer has a preference for "they", likely becayse that most closely matches their identity. So why not stick with "they"? >It's not like there's anything wrong with being a she.Of course not. Just as there's not anything wrong with being a he, a they, an enbie, a two-spirit, etc.So can we use of those terms to refer to *you*? Or would you be uncomfortable and ask as not to use certain pronouns to refer to you?
I can understand it somewhat. Professional environments, that is to say academic and corporate environments, are rife with misconduct, unquantifiables and passive aggressive behavior which is normalized through heirarchy and opportunism as most corporate employees are strivers in a pressurized environment. Having people call you your prefered pronouns is an exercise of their privilege thus establishing norms of 'professional' communication and heirarchy. Its unpsoken here but we tell on ourselves when we mock pronouns in that we think we lack entitlement to enforce them in some way truly. But also, some people, not irony poisoned losers or simple cynics, but corporate sociopath dilletantes actually are both sexist and mentally pliable so having them call her they/them will literally make them act more professionaly. So its about establishing norms for stupid people and exploitative people which are the majority of the professional environment. I know its stupid, you know its stupid, but some people genuinely accept and understand being put in their place or being told tedious explications of rules and expectations. One thing we never really talk about is that this website attracts people who are either intuitive or socially concientious in one way or another. But maybe 60 percent of most people genuinely appreciate a structure and system which tells them what social systems are valued, how they should behave etc. It's sad and disheartening after you stop just typing whatever hateful thing you think is funniest, but people actually don't want to think critically.
>>537321730Because she's crazy and useful in rounding up the other wackos
>>537322343Professional usually means you're adding value by contributing real output. This mess is self identification for retards to warn others.
>>537321730Butt / Ugly
>>537322123because referring to someone as a "they" feels one step removed from referring to someone as an "it"
>>537322123How do you refer to a two-spirited individual? He-she?
>>537322343I wouldn't have a problem calling her a "he" if she identified and presented as a man It's specifically the "they" that's the problem
>>537323044>How do you refer to a two-spirited individual?with smoke signals
>>537321730Gibbs from NCIS got a lifting.
>>537321730It's a fetish. They get off on exposing their sexuality to others. It's why they have pride parades and insist on being overtly represented in media they otherwise don't give a shit about, so they can make us all (non-consenting) participants in their own sexual enjoyment. "She" is a normal pronoun and doesn't let her do that.
>>537322457In modern times professionalism means conforming to the normal dissemination of infomatic content. I know I'm typing gay, I don't like it either. Anyway, professionalism now is just gatekept information i.e. financial resources for making plastic molds, trade plans, merger plans, which authoritative vehicle conveys legitimacy in your 'career field'. For instance kid who mows my lawn does the same work as julio who dropped a business card and pays taxes. We expect julio to have acquired more infomatic content. So, what is the flow of information within an organization? Constrained. And within these constraints authority allows permission for the flow of authentication of information. So when I say ken the canuck, youre hired my pronouns are zim/zither, youre going to say oh okay or you lose access. Its only that. You cannot negate my use of zim zither within the organization or you are being what? Unprofessional. So why does she go by she they her them? Because she must have mechanisms to validate her authority.
>>537323242I'm never working in an office
>>537322123I don't know where you're getting that, but there is something definitely wrong with those who cast reality away and become disgusting faggots.
>>537322753>because referring to someone as a "they" feels one step removed from referring to someone as an "it"Most American English speakers naturally use "they" to refer to an individual of indeterminate gender. For example, "Always greet everyone you meet with a smile, you never know when they might be having a bad day". It's not dehumanizing, it's just ... normal lol.
>>537325874Let's be sincere for once
>>537323044>How do you refer to a two-spirited individual? He-she?Just ask that person.
>>537322123Excuse me you are delulu
>>537325874No they use they for somebody of indeterminate sexGender is a bunch of sociology propaganda
>>537324165I guess the nice approach doesn't work with everyone. Hopefully picrel makes it easier for you to understand ;)
The worst lesbians are Jewish. Theyre all political activists against specifically white males
>>537326382>Let's be sincere for onceWym?
>>537326433Ooh so it's the wild card. They pick whatever they feel like at the moment?
>>537326656What specifically do you disagree with?
>>537326733>Gender is a bunch of sociology propagandaIt's recognized by medical, legal, and academic professionals as well as the governments of nearly every first world country. It's actually the gender denialists who are far outside of the mainstream.
>>537321730>when you're so jewish that you think you're several jews in one
>>537327035>They pick whatever they feel like at the moment?Kind of. Two-spirit identity typically exists outside of traditionally English-speaking cultures, so our language doesnt accommodate it very well. Ze/Zim/Zer is often used, but it's best to ask that individual what pronouns should be used.
This one is a special case and her point is generally to make the people she encounters lives more difficult and getting them to walk on eggshells. She sees it as some form of activism. She just wants to talk shit and write books for a living rather than get a normal job. She knows she is a woman. That's not the point.
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>>537329893>can't address any points head on>resorts to bizarre antisemitic smears instead*yawn*
>>537329535I don't know anything about her other than that she's a philosopher in gender-related things and that /pol/ probably hates her if they even know who she is
>>537325874I don't, it's always "he" in this case because that's proper english, the precedent is there in old english, all romance languages, and all germanic languages.He is supposed to be used for indeterminate and they is used for certain grammatical cases. It's not "assuming male through a pronoun" either, it's just proper english.
>>537330416The gender bullshit is all paid for and to be disruptive rather than to be taken seriously. And most of the leading figures in it are just selling books to morons. It just got a lot of funding and attention so everyone dived onto it. Fat, black, trans lesbians selling courses on inclusive language to apologetic white women. If she has a philosophy degree, which is one of the hardest to attain, I doubt she believes any of it but it pays more that philsophy.
>>537330575And for instance, the proper usage for they>Every soldier must carry all of their gear>They must take their gunIt's impersonal, it's not indeterminate. You would never use "they" in proper english to refer to someone unless it was deliberately impersonal. The soldier must take their gun - we know the soldier is a man already, but we are being impersonal because this is some instructional booklet or something and it's a soldier."They" in everyday english is not proper and is just niggerspeak.
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>>537326769one day you will go into an asylum, this is not a threat, it's just a consequence of your action.Threaten to kill a person just because his grammar is *wrong* it's a major concern for anybody around you.you are mentally ill, you are dangerous, you will be put in a mental institution
>>537326769I love how autistic men troon out then have fantasies where they slaughter anyone who calls them what they actually are, autistic men larping as the pussy they never got. Sad to think this all started because of the Talmud and a gay jewish man in Weimar Germany who desired a bussy harem.
>>537321730Kys tranny
