So, who got humiliated more?
>>537334021Trump for sure, at least Putin can say he grabbed some % of Ukraine, meanwhile what did Trump get out of this?hes paying Iran 300 billion dollars reparations and they control the strait.imagine Putin giving zelensky 300 billion and gives crimea back.
>>537334021pootan still takes the cake, guy can't even take a neighbouring country by surprise for gods sake
>>537334021Trump, he made all other countries hate us for this stupid war for jews and he couldn't finish it so now jews hate him as well. On top of everything else Trump might have just ensured the Chinese century.
>>537334183>Trump, he made all other countries hate us for this stupid war for jewsI mean, that could be said about Russia, too. Relations between Europe and Russia were good before the war.
>>537334021Washington DC isn't burning right now while Fox News scrambles to arrest any local who videotapes the fires.
>>537334144We didnt lose 2 million citizens in a meat grinder for the village of slavshitsky
>>537334183>caring what other countries thinkyou're a fucking faggot
>>537334388>We didnt lose 2 million citizensyou say this as if its a good thing, but imagine emptying 2 million niggers from your prisons into a meatgrinder.thats basically what Putin did.
>>537334388The village of slavshitsky happens to have underground resources worth all of my shitty province tho
>>537334021Obviously Trump. The US lost a lot less lives but gained literally nothing, not even some blown up peasant village. And monetarily the US spent even more on top of losing its status as a military hegemon.
>>537334456Lol this cope.
>>537334021I want to fight a chud in hand-to-hand combat. Is there any chud brave enough to do this?
>>537334301>Relations between Europe and Russia were good before the warWith Trump it is worse, he almost flung the entire global economy into a huge crisis pissing off every country across the globe. Russia still has friends, not many in Europe but ones in other parts of the world. Everyone is pissed off with the US right now, couldn't even make the jews happy in all this because we had to pull out.>>537334393Hey retard.. if we were 100% self-reliant it wouldn't matter but since jews and other 1%ers shipped most of our manufacturing overseas we are fucked if we isolate ourselves now.
>>537334021Only one of them is still fighting (and losing)
>>537334021Us.Russia hasn't surrendered yet.
>>537334021PutinThe Russian capital is getting bombed and he lost 1.5 million soldiersAlso this is a common occurrance
>>537334515PMC Wagner has recruited hundred of thousands of criminals and send them to their deaths.nobody is gonna miss these guys.
>>537334021Is this footage from Iranian bombing raid on Washington DC?
>>537334021.Trump can start the war again if he wants, and killed IRGC leaders, and members well.Meanwhile, Zelenskky is still alive. No hate to Putin as a Far Right ally, but he really has to take out Zelenskky.
>>537334604And hundreds of thousands of regular Russian boys.
>>537334565.US didn't surrender. You didn't give up anything.
>>537334021Trump without question.
Whatever happens to trump after the midterms it will not involve anal stimulation with a shovel. His failure is spectacular but far from the national catastrophe putin is pulling.
>>537334721.What I meant is that Putin got humiliated more than Trump.
>>537334774Trump was literally saying Iran has the right to enrichment and the right to missiles at the G7 today lol. He did a complete 180.
the euros that couldn't stop either one
>>537334820.Though I still believe Trump didn't lose. overall.
>>537334021Monke conquered land and keeps conquering more land, Monke does not care about humiliation.Trussy is efficiently serving his masters, who conquered land and will conquer even more land.You are suffering from redditbrain.
>>537334021Putin is fighting a war vs NATO, NATO GDP is 20 times higher than Russia, in that regard Russia is fighting alone against all odds and the russian military managed to adapt.America on the other hand faced a total military collapse against an extremely mediocre military, also America lost control of the sea, if you lose control of the sea then your power projection is voided, in that regard it's a total disaster, also America had to pay the equivalent to 30 aircraft carriers to Iran just to be able to withdraw its forces.
>>537334021Putin,Trump suffered humiliation but his country can still stay on top,Russia on other hand is fucked for decades with current course.
>>537334748all volunteers
>>537334974So?
>>537334021Banan?
>>537334021that finno-ugric enriched guy
>>537335301who gives a shit?a soldier who volunteered and who dies in a conflict has fullfilled his job.zogbots are basically worthless.
>>537334021trump lost and had to pay 300 billion for the privilege. putin won't be giving any money to the ukraine so i think trump
>>537334891>Putin is fighting a war vs NATONot a single Tomahawk has been launched at Russia in the 5 years that the conflict has lasted, while 850 was used in bombing Iran within one month.Russia is getting it's shit pushed in by cheap Ukrainian-produced weapons.
>>537334021Putin didn't lose at least...
>>537334021Trump at least pulled out from the absolute mess he created. So orange tard at least has some instincts when he realized he had to cut the losses.Putin is just living example of sunk cost fallacy where his desire for at least getting something resembling of "better peace deal" that he could sell to his population and elites ironically makes his position looks worse and worse with time. "Two more weeks" became his curse.
>>537334021putin, trump at least had the sense to quit early on instead of dragging it on forever like russia is currently doing.
>>537334021Trump's mistakes aren't nearly as bad and America isn't smoking from drone attacks.
>>537334301they were not. every western european leader only worked with russia reluctantly and were constantly looking for ways to undermine and weaken them. german and french leaders openly said they only signed the minsk agreement to buy time for the ukraine so they could am it to the teeth in preparation for a war against russia
>>537334388reduce that number by 90% and you're about accurate
>>537334891lollmao
>>537334550>losingby what metric?
>>537334598>1.5 millionzigger propaganda. russia has lost 600 trillion
>>537334021>OBAMA GAVE IRAN $1 BILLION! (It was actually their own money)>THE OBAMA DEAL WAS TERRIBLE! (according to Israeli's that want war)Trump threw in the towel and made the US look like a country of bitches by signing a deal that was far worse than anything Obama got. He tore up Obama's deal just to make himself look like a fool
>>537334721why would they kill their greatest asset?
America had the biggest fall from grace. Just think of how we were under Obama with all the diplomacy to how we are now when we're instead the great betrayer that requires open bribes to the Trump family for diplomacy. America's fall is so catastrophic that people debate which enemy government our current administration serves.Conservatives are just NOW paying attention to Trump's disastrous policies, but Iran is just the latest in a long string of stripping America of its power and prestige in all aspects.
>>537335550how does this stop the ukraine from losing though? do you think the entire russian economy exists in a few oil storage tanks?
Putin.
>>537334021Russia was always a joke, Trump totally got played for a fool by Israel an Iran
>>537336035Why don't you ask google/ChatGPT how blowing up the enemies oil refineries is beneficial during war? Or better yet, use your brain.
>>537335691Okay, fine. They were good before Crimea.
>>537334021your intelligence
>>537334813Only because the downstream consequence hasn't manifest itself yet. In terms of absolute consequences, Trump's war is far more severe, mainly because US has far more to lose as the global hegemon. This will go down in history as the US Suez canal moment. We just don't realize it until many years later.
>>537334774show flag, pussy
>>537334477Russia had enough resources for generations. If they put all their war funds in exploring mining sites and building refineries they would have been set for 100 years probably. What do you think when will the first rousources be extracted from the donbass region?
>>537334598actually it's 15, no, 150 million, also ukraine conquered vladivostok
>>5373344565d chess, putin is a genius, great leader, another 5 years of this war please
If you're just looking at material cost then Russia. They've fed their young male population into a woodchipper for years fighting against one of the poorest nations in Europe right nextdoor to them. Not just that, but they lost their ally in Syria partially because of Ukraine and there's still no end in sight. But in terms of sheer humiliation Trump is worse. This is a national embarrassment worse than the Afghanistan pullout, second only to vietnam in the great list of American military fuckups.
>>537336164okay but how does it stop the ukraine from losing? do you think the entire russian economy is inside a few oil storage tanks? do you really think that every time the ukraine strikes a refinery that the refinery is totally destroyed forever?
>>537337627Is Tuapse running?
>>537337905dunno ay. i'm not in the russian energy ministry
>>537334021Putin without question, trump at least doesn't lose anything important during his failure while jewtin...
>>537334183You voted for a dumb manchild nigger, you get a dumb manchild nigger.>taste and IQ of an inbred trailer trash meth addict
Obviously Putin lol. 15 Americans have died. Hundreds of thousands of Russians have died and they're not even making progress anymore.
Trump pulled back quickly when he realized he made a mistake. Putin is doubling down for over 4 years now
>>537338212>>537339460Oh good, the butthurt belt is chiming in on what's really happening.
>>537338212What?
>>537337984Well a simple search would have shown you that it's not. For months already.
>>537339211Yeah, but that would imply that Putin cares about Russian lives.
>>537334883/pol/brain is far worse than redditbrain
>>537334021theyre both retarded losers the world cant get rid of em soon enough
>>537339791Okay and? How does that stop the ukraine from losing? Russia has dozens of such facilities
>>537335728he's right you fucking jeet
>>537339211ukrainian soldiers are constantly squealing about losing their most heavily fortified positions in donbass. what is this nonsense about 'not even making progress any more'
>>537340908>African flag speakswould you like to provide some sort of evidence for such a claim?
>>537340994Nogs here love russia you stupid bricshitskins>would you like to provide some sort of evidence for such a claim?ask chatgpt you dumbass
https://x.com/DoWCTO/status/2067331158933729618holy fuck
>>537334021At least Epstein's mate cut his losses - Moscow is literally on fire.
>>537337547In the meantime, in REALITY, Russia is fine in troops, while Ukrainian population fell down from 40 mil to 20 mil and they ran out of hohols to kill so badly,that they asked USA, Canada and EU to ban hohols that are hiding there, so that they can send them to a front lines. Hilarious , the opposite is true.
>>537340435Add Bibi to the list
>>537341065chatgpt says you're a gay nigger. care to back up your claim with any kind of evidence at all?
Imagine russia actually killed jewlensky on the zeroth hour, sank several of their ships with all hands, didnt give up any territory, obliterated oinkraines economy while russia's actually improved despite the black sea being closed, suffered minimal ground casualties total, and this board was full of greek/dominican/aussie flags spamming that russia surrendered
>>537341065>chatgptYeah youre just a nigger with a french flag
>>537341091lmaoooo
>>537341323except you literally surrendered and are paying 300000000000$ reperations
>>537341201they claim: russia lost 6 gorillion soldiers KIAthe reality: syrsky squealing about russian force investment in ukraine constantly growing https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jul/24/i-know-we-will-win-and-how-ukraines-top-general-on-turning-the-tables-against-russia
>>537341323Don't forget Russia paying Ukraine$300B to reopen the Black Sea and acknowledging that Ukraine controlled it
>>537334021We set Iran back a decade and we put the gulf states and isreal in their place, as in outside of the simpson option they have no means of actually defending themselves and are completely dependent on the US.
>>537341594Don't cope, m'dude. Makes you sound like zigger
>>537341594They blew up all your bases in the region, buddy.
>>537341433>>537341572>heh they're just letting 300 billion in "investments" in...wow had no idea iran surrendered to the CIA so easily kek
>>537341594bro you're literally paying them $300 billion for the privilege of getting your bases gaped
>>537341661Only cope here are from kikes who turned an invasion of a village on their Lebanese border into their version of Stalingrad. >>537341666And they’re begging for us to rebuild them kek stupid sandniggers
>>537334021Putin is getting rid of undesirables through a war that has thus far at least yielded SOME territory. The US has gained NOTHING and only lost money, oil and face. On top of this, they have managed to compeltely isolate themselves and made every single ally that they had before (except for Isreal) distrust them and secretly begin measures to completely cut them out of trade, soft power and knowledge sharing. The US is losing influence at a staggering pace never before seen. Whilst Russia is just losing population that is easily replaced by tweaking a few parameters in society with legislation.
>>537341811>SAAAR YOU ARE NOT DOING THE NEEDFULL ISRAEL NEED IRAN TO BE DESTROYED SAAARKys
>>537334021I think knowing when to take the L is better than coping about it for years and years
>>537335783The same that makes you say Iran "won"
>>537341862You don't think Russian soft power or influence has been nerfed? Wew, lad
>>537341902>least retarded burger
>>537334021>So, who got humiliated more?Gentiles
>>537342045You might not like it but this is who the winners and losers are as of now
>>537342016What do you know jew?
>>537341862>secretly begin measures to completely cut them out of tradeIf we aren’t going to fill the EU’s $750 billion LNG hole who is? Ruzzia?
>>537342016>You don't think Russian soft power or influence has been nerfed?It wasnt there to begin with. Europe just bought cheap oil. They didnt allow Russian troops and bases on their soil. Neither the west NOR the east has ever trusted Russia even remotely as much as they trusted the US since the wall fell. No one in their right mind would trust Russia. Kind of hard to lose soft power and influence, when you never had it to begin with.
>>537341862We're still taking Greenland once we're done with Cuba, lil buddy
Obama was the first black man to sit in the presidential chair Drumpf was the first nigger to sit in the presidential chair America trusted a shabbos goy who has a generational shame and trauma about his german ancestry, imagine trusting such a cuck lol
>>537342188If Iran is anything to go by, I feel pretty good about our odds.
>>537342171I don't mind it tbqh. All the retarded strongmen are having a bad year
>>537342174I can unequivocally denounce the talmud. Post foreskin
>>537342188At this point even Cuba could rape ZOG >Greenland Never happening
>>537334515All pidors are niggers (white) so no matter what mystery meat gets droned by AFU, it's a net gain for humanity and probably state of Russia s it frees place for import of paajets (who are marginally better)
>>537342330Yeah it’s a rough time for the nationalistsChina was also taking L’s during the wolf warrior period during covid but they stopped it afterwards, it’s been pretty gud for them since. That said, despite this being an unequivocal US loss that isn’t enough to materially change much outside of F tier, wherein Israel has completely destroyed their reputation for nothing, and also the Palestinians are still fucked since they don’t seem to be part of this deal
>>537334021We just bombed the shit out of Iran for like a month and now are doing a nuclear deal. It's not even comparable.
>>537341882iran won, paris is niggered. cope and cry nigger boy
>>537342186Fair point for the wider picture, but their traditionally shit-scared neighbours now seem a bit more cheeky. I would say that counts
>>537342324Kek. Nice quip
>>537342324You know we're getting 3 new bases in Greenland right? And you're ok with it.
>>537341979so when you lose half your population and 25% of your territory that's winning?
>>537334456Ah yes. Send 2 million random drunks to the frontlines to die while you import 3 million jeets. Classic Muscovite 4d chess.
>>537338837>You voted>votedI don't vote.
>>537342588You already had carte blanche to have as many bases in Greenland as you wanted. But now everyone thinks you're kicks. Stunning and brave diplomacy, Cletus. Well done
>>537342464https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Mol
>>537342738No, Denmark has to approve.
>>537340435What will happen to israel once niggeryahu is gone? Gvir is a k*rd (synonym of retard) and the leftists opposition is useless
>>537342473You're also giving them sanctions relief, reparations and unfreezing their assets. Also, the strait remains under their control and there will be a toll.
>>537342588>You know we're getting 3 new bases in Greenland right?So? What am I supposed to feel here? The US were allowed to build bases in Greenland for the past +50 years or so. Have fun straining resources in the cold ass tundra of bumfuck nowhere, for no other reason other than to grease the wheels of orange man.>>537342797Incorrect. They just had to notify of it.
>>537342800Decline into a high fertile retard country, the Zionist project will come to an end in your lifetime if you aren’t middle aged probably
>>537342589>25%Less than 20% and getting smaller day by day. Keep up, Ivan. Then get off Charlie's clay and go back.
>>537342824If they agree to a nuclear deal and behave like a normal nation, why wouldn't we give them sanctions relief, unfreeze their assets, and allow foreign investment in Iran? Why am I supposed to be mad about that? >>537342870We're doing it because we know the eurotards won't lol. But everything I read seems to imply it's more than just a notification.
>>537336035Attacking the supply chain hinders the war efforts. Destroying supply depots in general deprives an army of munitions and fuel necessary to fight If fuel is destroyed, then that fuel cannot be used to fuel tanks or aircraft. If munitions are destroyed in their storage depots then those munitions cannot be used against you.
>>537335776LOL
>>537343005You already had a nuclear deal lol. Trump tore it up in 2018, remember?
>>537343259>Kherson and Zaporishshzia marked as occupiedWhat is this? 2022?
>>537334021Cucktin didn't fold yet. He's still in play.
>>537334021The mutts, at least the Russians are still fighting their pointless war while the golems just caved in immediately.
>>537336372You mean before Georgia... or before Chechnya, actually scratch that Europe was definitely good with Russia.... before the Bolsheviks, over a century ago.
>>537334021Migger cattle who will pay 400 billions
Trumpstein.How is this even a question?
>>537334021Trump obviously because the Ukraine war is still technically in progress.
>>537343003so you recognise crimea as russian. concession accepted you memeflag kike >>537343096so why are they losing konstantinovka?
