Where did this idea come from? Governments establish rights, God doesn’t bother himself with the trivial organization of mortals.> We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
>>537336233The Founding Fathers were mostly Deists who didn't believe in the Christian conception of God. They viewed God more through the lens of the Neoplatonic "First Principle" https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/70319-as-the-government-of-the-united-states-of-america-is
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for by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: and he is before all things, and by him all things consist: and he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the pre-eminence.Colossians 1:16-18 KJVAAEhttps://bible.com/bible/546/col.1.16-18.KJVAAE
>Where did this idea come from?From John Locke you absolute retard.You fucking nigger. Read a book.
>>537336233What has god really done for you? Gave you an imaginary friend to support your narcissistic delusions? "god" is Schitzophrenia combined with child abuse.
>>537336233The concept is bullshit.Imagine you wake up tomorrow to find you're the last human on earth; its just you, the plants, the animals, and the laws of physics.What "rights" do you have?To live and/or die like any other animal. The end.
Rights are taken by force, or bought with money. On the very odd occasion they are granted by a benevolent overlord. There is nothing in the Bible I've ever seen that even hints at any rights granted by God. Mostly this idea comes down to us through Thomas Paine. He was the burger propagandist who used the concept as a counter to the concept of Right of Kings.
>>537338117Tom Paine was a Brit
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It’s enlightenment babble to justify why merchants, lawyers and Jews were overthrowing the monarchy and church.
>>537338117>There is nothing in the Bible I've ever seen that even hints at any rights granted by God.If you rape a young girl (child), and she is not espoused to another, if you are discovered, you must pay 50 pieces of silver to the father, and keep the girl forever.Christians such as you say this is abrogated and not establish the right of men to have child brides. And since you have worse punishments now: they override the punishment given by God in the Old Testament.Christians, such as yourself are liars.This law estabished the right of men to take girl child brides.So yes there are rights established by God in the ACTUAL ORIGINAL bible (first 5 books, greek / hebrew): but that have been taken away by those who hate the rights God gave to men.God also gives a solution regarding Christians like you who ban men from having child brides:>If anyone entices you to follow another Power, even if it is your brother, kill them --Devarim.So here now 2 rights are established1) The right of men to TAKE (tahphas: to take, as to take a city) little girl children (na'r, paidia, puella) FORCEFULLY as brides, regardless of what anyone wants (no the law in numbers about seduction doesn't abrogate this Devarim law)2) The right to kill anyone telling us to follow something other than YHWH, on the spot. (ie: what you and christians do with "obey all earthly rulers Romans 13" "hahaha the local ruler DEMOCRACY banned loli brides thus you must OBEY that!")So yes: the Old Testament God does grant rights to men.New Testament Jesus takes them away and his New Testament transfers all rights to the temporal local rulers of the state.
>>537338117>There is nothing in the Bible I've ever seen that even hints at any rights granted by God.If you rape a young girl (child), and she is not espoused to another, if you are discovered, you must pay 50 pieces of silver to the father, and keep the girl forever.Christians such as you say this is abrogated and not establish the right of men to have child brides. And since you have worse punishments now: they override the punishment given by God in the Old Testament.Christians, such as yourself are liars.This law estabished the right of men to take girl child brides.So yes there are rights established by God in the ACTUAL ORIGINAL bible (first 5 books, greek / hebrew): but that have been taken away by those who hate the rights God gave to men.God also gives a solution regarding Christians like you who ban men from having child brides:>If anyone entices you to follow another Power, even if it is your brother, kill them --Devarim.So here now 2 rights are established1) The right of men to TAKE (tahphas: to take, as to take a city) little girl children (na'r, paidia, puella) FORCEFULLY as brides, regardless of what anyone wants (no the law in numbers about seduction doesn't abrogate this Devarim law)2) The right to kill anyone telling us to follow something other than YHWH, on the spot. (ie: what you and christians do with "obey all earthly rulers Romans 13" "hahaha the local ruler DEMOCRACY banned loli brides thus you must OBEY that!")So yes: the Old Testament God does grant rights to men.New Testament Jesus takes them away and his New Testament transfers all rights to the temporal local rulers of the state
>>537338882there were two camps, or one big camp and locke apparently, most whigs were concerned with the facts of pre-norman rights called the "ancient constitution". I wonder if it wasn't an attempt at a happy medium to declare these "tribal" rights "natural" rights.
>>537338117>There is nothing in the Bible I've ever seen that even hints at any rights granted by God.If you rape a young girl (child), and she is not espoused to another, if you are discovered, you must pay 50 pieces of silver to the father, and keep the girl forever.Christians such as you say this is abrogated and not establish the right of men to have child brides. And since you have worse punishments now: they override the punishment given by God in the Old Testament.Christians, such as yourself are liars.This law estabished the right of men to take girl child brides.So yes there are rights established by God in the ACTUAL ORIGINAL bible (first 5 books, greek / hebrew): but that have been taken away by those who hate the rights God gave to men.God also gives a solution regarding Christians like you who ban men from having child brides:>If anyone entices you to follow another Power, even if it is your brother, kill them --DevarimSo here now 2 rights are established1) The right of men to TAKE (tahphas: to take, as to take a city) little girl children (na'r, paidia, puella) FORCEFULLY as brides, regardless of what anyone wants (no the law in numbers about seduction doesn't abrogate this Devarim law)2) The right to kill anyone telling us to follow something other than YHWH, on the spot. (ie: what you and christians do with "obey all earthly rulers Romans 13" "hahaha the local ruler DEMOCRACY banned loli brides thus you must OBEY that!")So yes: the OT God does grant rights to menNew Testament Jesus takes them away and his New Testament transfers all rights to the temporal local rulers of the state> An Afghan girl stares at Warrant Officer Troy D. Anstine> Just before the game had finished, an 8-year-old girl arrived to the school with three other young boys, who quickly joined the group of students while she kept her distance outside the compound.https://www.dvidshub.net/news/47641/marines-teach-nawa-students-dodgeball-first-girl-attends-school
>>537338882Thomas Jefferson wanted the old testament removed and only the new testament allowed as the "good book".Early old testament is masculinism: much like roman and greek though.New Testament is feminism.You'll deny this, but it tells you all you need to knowNew Testament is anti-child-bride, anti-looking-at-a-woman, pro-whore, anti-old testament law.
>>537336233Worry more about whether you are bowing to God than whether others bow to you.
>>537336233Fucking shit head
>>537336233Yes, exodus chapter 20 thou shalt not kill, steal, etc establishes the right to life, property etc
>Where did this idea come from?Americans were people that went into the woods back then with their child brides, and killed police that had a problem with them.That's where rights come from: force.Some called it the "American Revolution", but originally it was much more than that. Eventually the states and the federals betrayed the men and started taxing them in the same way the English did, and killing them in the same way.>Whiskeys rebellion>Shays rebellionPlus abolishing private property by throwing people off their land for non payment of property taxes, and killing them if they resisted.So no we do not have rights today.We do not kill the police who oppose private property etc.We do not kill the police who prevent us from marrying young girls from our own clans etc.We just worship Jesus and his feminism.Men have no rights thusly.You'll get mad now.
>>537339973Devarim 22 verse 28 in greek, hebrew, and latin establishes the right of men to child brides.You will deny this by citing the english, or by falsly claiming that "na'ar doesn't mean child" "paidia doesn't mean child you PAEDOPHILE!" "puella doesn't mean young girl.But na'r (the actual glyph used in Devarim) does mean child, paidia (greek used) does indeed mean child, and puella does mean young girl (latin).You will also claim tahphas "doesn't mean rape", yes it does: it means to take, as to take a city. That is rape. Take by force of arms.
>>537336233The founding father where wrong when they say that people are capable of ruling themselves sociaty has proven that democracy on all its forms is a failure. monarchy and the divine right to rules work humans most be drag against there will to make a better sociaty.
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>>537340461The right of the people to rule themselves was defeated by this one simple trick: Police.And then this one:Police enforcing women's right to vote.Voting was a proxy of Men's violence: an alternative.Women voting ends Men's power.The only way for men to have Democracy again: is to use violence and kill their enemies.The enemies of young men and "loser" men are those who deny them young virgin child brides.Girls to rule over and dominate.Before Police the young men would simply torture and kill the fathers if they denied them universally the cute young girls: they were strong enough to take them.Now men have no rights because of Democracy (rule of women) (or rule of demos: spirit/demons).This lack of rights is a product of the New Testament: something women love.Men hate the New Testament and like the Roman and Greek myths and the early Old Testament.
>>537339394Tell me more about this ancient constitution. It might be the way to free ourselves from the slavery of the Jews.>most whigs were concerned with the facts of pre-norman rights called the "ancient constitution"
