All the ones I know IRL think it is a defeat.
Explain to me how it's a defeat. 300 billion isn't coming from America, the 12 billion out of the 24 billion has yet to be released, Iran is giving up their missiles, and their nuclear program, they also lost 3500 people. America lost under 50, and bomb the shit out of them. And their oil is now going to be public which means America can purchase it which means gas prices will be lower, and it also means American contractors Can now go and bid in Iran to rebuild it. Donald Trump the blew the fuck out of Iran and it's going to result in more American jobs and oil. You lost
Well yes, obviously the pro-israel people think this is a loss. It doesn't serve Israel's interests. Ted Cruz probably writing articles of impeachment as we speak.
>>537341538ESL migajeet cope
>>537341538>Explain to me how it's a defeat.It did not achieve the stated overthrow of the Iranian government which was it's stated goal you retard.
>>537341615You lost fag>>537341654You're the first one to actually put up a good argument. True the original plan was to overthrow the Iranian government because they thought they wouldn't deal. But after blowing the shit out of them and killing 3,500 people they seem to have come around. That usually happens. But good for you for actually having an argument.
>>537341538>300 billion isn't coming from Americawho's going to pay then>explain how it's a defeatyou're paying 50 millions in reparations for each iranian soldier you killed LMAO
>>537341538Israel is sad tho.
>>537341370reminds me of this
>>537341899Americans who die on the job get pennies.Iranian soldiers who rape goats get 50 million.
>>537341370Trump did everything the kikes wanted then bailed at the last second to own the kikes. Its no my problem you dont understand 4d chess. Those who bless Israel will be blessed.
>>537341800Quick, someone tell Nazi germany they won WW2 because they killed 40 million soviets and only lost 8 million.American scum like you deserve to get shot in the head!
>>537341370I'm not a migger but I am claiming victory because this whole debacle only serves to increase the gap between Israel and my country. Yeah, my country may have just been humiliated in a war against religious extremists, but you've gotta find the silver lining, you know?
>>537341370It's not a defeat if you don't call it that
>>537341800>wouldn't deal.overthrowing the government is not making a deal with the government. those are two different things idiot. they want the islmaic republic overthrown.
>>537341899Except for that's not how it's going to work. Let me explain it to you like you're retarded because obviously you are. You own a house, next to a river. Somebody wants to use your river and your real cunt about it. So out of nowhere, America blows your fucking house up. Now you say they can use the river, so we say okay you're surrounding friends will now help you build your house again, but you don't get the money, and other contractors get to decide how the build your house. So sure you're getting your house built back for free, but you have no saying it. Enjoy your kitchen in the Attic and your pans in the basement
>>537341538Migger cope has evolved into fascinating pretzel shapes.>Let me tell you how 300 billion to our enemy in tribute is a WIN for us
>>537342131How retarded are you? The only reason why we try to overthrow the government was because they wouldn't even listen to a deal. Then we bombed them, and then they came to the table. This isn't hard. Are you intentionally being this dumb? I'm honestly trying to help you
>>537341538>Trump orders decapitating strike on Iran just like Venezuela>Military scrambles to obey, kicks ally armies out of their own bases in order to do it>all of said allies get shit blown up for doing that when they didn't really want to>Trump wastes 700 of our 1000 JASSM bombs doing basically no damage to Iranian military assets, but destroying many many schools>these targets were brought to you by Palantir's Maven AI system!>military refuses to waste last few hundred bombs>US attempt to land in Iran gets destroyed over Easter>botched invasion is faked as a rescue job>US military gets pushed out of basically everywhere, relevant US bases get bombed albeit they are still functional>Iran controls the Hormuz the whole time lmao>US gas prices soar>inflation goes from 2% back up to 6% lol enjoy your corona tier economy again>Iran gets 300 billion settlement as apology for all the dead schoolchildren>Iran never even claims they want to make a nuclear weaponThe USA fucking lost comically badly, literally zero objects done other than bombing schools if that counts. Don't forget that every one of these wars the USA loses, the winner of the war learns how to do shit like shoot down high flying planes, what bunker hardening strategies work, how to decentralize command more effectively, and so on. We saw some cool shit like mosquito fleets too. Israel is still going to be at war though lmao with Lebanon and probably Iran too.
Trump stated the goal was a non nuclear Iran. Now, have a non-nuclear Iran. Not to mention their military and economy is in shambles. Seems pretty straightforward to me.
>>537342229And that's your problem is you have a very black and white world view. Even Sun Tzu said Peace is more profitable than war.
>>537342140what a fucking retard cope as if the US did 300 billions in damage to iran, that's the entire iran gdp. And you still haven't explained who's going to pay the 300 billions.
>>537342319Not us.
>>537341800>>537341538>you lost fagnigger you lost toowhy do you think you're on the same team as the epstein class? are you going to ignore the fact that ameirca is wholly controlled by jews and shabbos and the american government's entire purpose is serving the jews and jews only and destroying whites whom the jews believe are diametrically opposed to them because of their religious scripture, to serve your ego?insane zog dickrider
>>537341370Just these online bots. Reality still exists.
>>537342307they get 1 year of gdp for free from your money amerishittoid
>>537341538>>537341370Even if we were giving Iran 300 billion (we aren’t ) we did the same to Germany and Japan and Korea after winning those wars
>>537341538Pay up wagie tranny winrar.Keeeeeeek
>>537342319Vance said the Arab nations were going to establish a fund to help rebuild Iran. The only thing the US will be doing is lifting sanctions or unfreezing funds, and that's tentative.
>>537342277My dad also works at Nintendo. Ceasefire: Immediate and permanent termination of all military operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon.Naval Blockade: The U.S. will begin dismantling its naval restrictions immediately, completely lifting the blockade within 30 days.Strait of Hormuz: Iran must grant free, safe passage to commercial vessels for a 60-day period and handle maritime demining.Sanctions Relief: The U.S. will outline a schedule to dismantle unilateral, UN, and IAEA sanctions as part of the upcoming final negotiations.Frozen Assets: Restricted Iranian financial funds and assets will be fully released and made usable by the Central Bank of Iran.Reconstruction Fund: A U.S.-backed, regionally funded program worth at least $300 billion will be established for Iran's economic development.Nuclear Commitments: Iran reaffirmed it will not develop nuclear weapons and agreed to IAEA-supervised management of its enriched uranium stockpiles.>U.s backed money? Doesn't that mean the US is paying for it! No, the United States is not providing any taxpayer money or direct government grants toward the proposed $300 billion reconstruction fund.And that was me using a remedial search engine. You guys are so fucking retarded and disingenuous It's not even fun being here anymore
>>537342241>The only reason why we try to overthrow the government was because they wouldn't even listen to a deal.Why would they ever deal with the US ever after they ripped up the last deal and already violated this deal right after signing it?
>>537341538>the 12 billion out of the 24 billion has yet to be released>Brock Obunga gave them i raynian terrariss 1.7 bilyun dollers>but Orange Is The New Black Man didn't release 12 billion out of 24 yet!trumpjeet death cult loyalty is amazing
>>537342510>Vance said the Arab nations were going to establish a fund to help rebuild Iran.Vance says alot of things, zero will be doing that because it was US and Israel who started this war.
>>537342229how much damage did we do to them though, lil bro?i don't think you faggots know the things you type out. you seem legitimately retarded. almost like you're inbred and have brown skin or something.
>>537341370>All the ones I know IRL think it is a defeat.Because you're a brown zoomer.
>america pulling out of the retarded war for kike interests and not sending americans to die for israel in iran is bad for americaTOTAL KIKE HUMILIATION.
Sad amerilards are sour losers.Pay denbts gigafags.Keeeeeek
>>537342630>b-b he gave them moar money thoughhow much damage did obongo do the iranians when he was bombing them? oh yeah. he didn't. he just sucked their circumcised brown cocks. lmao
Sad amerilards are weeping over the deal. And will weep harder when israel chimps out and gets you in trouble again.
>>537342510lmao sure the gulf states that weren't even part of the war are gonna pay 300 billions
>>537342404It sounds like you fell for leftist propaganda. They will say anything to make this look bad for the U.S, even if it's a blatant lie. Did you not know that, or are you just trying to spread that same propaganda?
>>537342535>Iran reaffirmed it will not develop nuclear weapons and agreed to IAEA-supervised management of its enriched uranium stockpiles.Iran's strategy is to clearly use nuclear energy and wait a few years for the IAEA to show up with money.>You guys are so fucking retarded and disingenuous It's not even fun being here anymorehahahaha
Lardballs btfod eternally.Please mutt, bless us with more wall texts to explain how you became a winrar.Keeeeek
>>537342769I actually unironically refuse to believe anyone can run defense for a world level self inflicted humiliation like this. You are a (you) farmer and this is the last one you're getting out of me.
>i think im a womanHaha Its measurable, war. Iran got spungoed it shouldn’t even need saying. You have mental problems (TDS) if you are trying to imagine otherwise
Miggers on suicide watch
>>537341800US Goals:>eliminate Iran's navy pretty well accomplished but a waste of time sidequest as it's not really important to their military strategy>eliminate their missile programlimiting their missile program is no longer being discussed>eliminate their support for proxiesoff the table/not being discussed in the MOU>put an end to their nuclear programverbal promise not to develop a nuke; the exact same promise that was part of the JCPOA and before the war so no change>reopen the strait of hormuz for free navigationis now under Iranian/Omani joint control; fees will be charged; situation is more beneficial to Iran than before the warIranian Goals:>Survival of the Islamic republic, establish deterrence with US.Success1/5 objectives accomplished = US strategic failure
>>537341538>Explain to me how it's a defeat. Ok >300 billion isn't coming from America,Possibly. JD said Gulf States are making the funding available. He has said a bunch of shit that's just a lie. So we shall see>the 12 billion out of the 24 billion has yet to be released,It will though. So what are you trying to say here?> Iran is giving up their missiles, 100% false and now everyone knows you are either uniformed or a liar >and their nuclear program, Which they didn't have and that's why we started shit in the first place >they also lost 3500 people. America lost under 50, Americans are worth 10k to 1 to me, so this isn't a fair exchange >and bomb the shit out of them.True >And their oil is now going to be public which means America can purchase it which means gas prices will be lower, When this started MIGGERS were screeching that US is a net exporter of oil we don't buy ME oil etc. let's say we do, di you think oil from the Middle East that has to be extracted pumped refined loaded onto a ship have that ship across the world to end up in American ports will be cheaper than oil from US Canada or Mexico? I don't think you thought this went through > and it also means American contractors Can now go and bid in Iran to rebuild it.Do you think Iran is going to allow American contractors into his country to rebuild this infrastructure after America just blew up its infrastructure that sounds pretty stupid. Do you genuinely truly believe that because if so you're pretty stupid >Donald Trump the blew the fuck out of Iran and it's going to result in more American jobs and oil. Are you able to articulate how intelligently and rationally if so please do.>You lostWe all did. But you won Lady Maga
>>537341538>Iran is giving up their missiles, and their nuclear programYes they pinky promised and signed a deal. Everyone knows that in international politics deals are sacred!
>>537343051Navy still doing fine.What did you expect?
>>537342907You're probably right... On both things actually. But it's usually pretty easy to tell when you're going past nuclear energy levels, I don't remember the exact amount of enrichment that you need,what percentage, But it's a pretty big difference between energy levels and weapon level. And you're right I am here forever. I've been here since 2004. I'm a /b/ refugee. Tranny's pushed me out of my home a long time ago so I came here
Mutts dont even take in account the damage that Iran did to their diddy party outposts.Keeeeek.It's up to a 12 digit number.Pay up.
$24bn$300bn$??tn?
>>537341538>And their oil is now going to be public Which also fucks CHYNA over bigly.The shills on here and TV are delusional.
Tit for tat.
Muttlards fucked around and found out again.
You can't win against migger cultists. They're too retarded/brown to think clearly
>>537343143that's all their go-fast boats right? I wasn't gonna bring those up as it's not really what most people think about as a navy and are mostly useful for controlling their territorial water (i.e. the strait). But yes those can't be eliminated without a full boots on the ground invasion
>>537341538>Iran is giving up their missilesThe deal is silent on Iran’s missiles. All the Zios bitching about the deal point to this. >Iran is giving up their nuclear programThe deal doesn’t say that. It does say that Iran promises to not get a nuclear weapon and also says that further negotiations will occur regarding enriched uranium and inspections but that’s it.
don't care, I'm watching the world cup and drinking in my backyard, in America. no one gives a fuck. you got your shit pushed in, you going to keep crying about it on 4chan forever?
>>537343100I appreciate you actually taking the time to make a logical argument. So let's do this. >Possibly. JD said Gulf States are making the funding available. He has said a bunch of shit that's just a lie. So we shall see(We shall see. I agree, Trump says one thing, Iran says another. I trust Trump over Iran. Also in 60 days, I'd be fucking shocked if Israel doesn't fuck up this deal) >the 12 billion>It will though. So what are you trying to say here?(You say it well. Again we don't know if it will until it actually gets released. I could say you will suck dicks but we don't know)> Iran missiles,>100% false (That's what they said, that's why we're going to have inspections. So you're wrong.)>Nuke program>Which they didn't haveThey did. We all know they had enriched uranium. Same way that you know they didn't give up their missiles.>Lost 3500 people. America lost under 50,>Americans are worth 10k to 1 to me, so this isn't a fair exchange(Too bad we don't use your metrics for anything)>>and bomb the shit out of them.>True>>And their oil is now going to be public which means America can purchase it which means gas prices will be lower,>When this started MIGGERS(No we don't buy oil from there, but we do sell oil to a fucking ton of our allies who do buy oil from there. And so we don't have to sell our oil to other people we can keep it which means we have more oil here.)>> and it also means American contractors Can now go and bid in Iran to rebuild it.>Do you think Iran is going to(Yes. Americans literally build everything all over the fucking world and if you're too stupid to fucking realize that hate to break it to you bro we're fucking everywhere.)>Are you able to articulate how intelligently and rationally if so please do.(I did. We blew up their infrastructure, other countries will then pay money into it, Americans will go there and work. You said no, I say we'll see.)Text limit is ghey
>>537342846>leftist propagandait's written in the published signed deal
>>537341370homeschooled inbred rednecks are that retarded, yes.
>>537343227There's only two possibilities that are plausible: Either Trump is the dumbest motherfucker alive, or there's some deeper geopolitical strategy and the US economy is worth sacrificing. I know for sure Trump literally does not give a fuck about normal working people because he said so and that's normally the type of thing he would lie about.It looked like the oil shortage was doing a lot more damage to China than the USA so that might be it. Russia profits enormously off of oil's price hike which usually emboldens them to invade somewhere. Like when oil peaked over $100/barrel in 2022, Russia invaded Ukraine.Don't forget about the Obama deal that Republicans all trashed habitually about "palettes of cash" in exchange for the inspection of Iran's nuclear facilities. It's a power plant, not a missile factory. The Jews love to claim Iran has nuclear weapons and use it as an excuse to drag the USA into the middle East.
>>537343622Iranians just adapted to SC2 zerg rushing tactics. Cant build your own big boat? Fine 20.000 fast boats. 2 AA missiles on that one, 2 AShMs on this one, 4 mines on the third one. Etc.Pottery.
>>537342769Obongo didn’t give Iran the strait of Hormuz or cancel all sanctiooons against Iran either…yet Trump just did.
>>537341370I mean you’re really seething right now just like the jews, so I definitely won.
>>537343750Dont forget about your planes and your bases.Gold fish memory mutt.
>>537343751Nobody is denying a fund will exist. You are implying that Americans will be paying for it, which is a lie. The Gulf states are paying for it.
0/5 objectives accomplished.Outstanding work.
>>537341538You lost youre military bases and influence in the region. Iran gains super power status. You lost tranny
if this guy is correct then the whole "we rescued the pilot over Easter in a three day operation just like Jesus coming back from the dad!" is not only a lie but it's one of those comical lies about religion. Well son of man learns what son of man is taught.
>>537344844Why didn't trump give him the medal of honour or some other publicity stunt?Wonder why.
>>537344956>here's your posthumous award for fucking upknowing the military they probably did get awards along with a very expensive yet purely symbolic casket
>>537341370only illiterate people think it's a defeat. we just opened iran's economy to the world. regional actors will invest in the country and effectively take it over. its over for persia, soon to be an arab economic zone.
>>537341538> Iran is giving up their missiles, and their nuclear programLol
>>537345124>only illiterate people think it's a defeat. we just opened iran's economy to the world. regional actors will invest in the country and effectively take it over. its over for persia, soon to be an arab economic zone.
>>537345114Naaah i bet it was only her sun lotion.Keeeek
>>537341370OP pic reminds me of this Polish castle
>>537345124So when Trump brags about foreign investment in the USA, we are really being taken over?
>>537341538based. look at all the bots crying about the truth kek. "uhm ackshually 300 million from america *drools* things happened didn't happen *more drool* cope lol *rage and drool* trump lost because"
>>537343127surely america would only go to war once about this. not twice. amirite anon?
>>537341370Donald Trump lost so America lost so Israel lost so America won so Donald Trump won. I don’t know what the MIGA and anti MIGA is anymore
>>537342946look how many wall texts responded"uhm actually it was a loss and here's a character limit post why you're actually seething right now fuckyoufuckyoufuckyou"
>>537342404you are an excellent fiction writer i await your next post eagerly.
>>537344257They already said they aren’t, cry more retard migger
Yes. Donald Trump has just broken Israel's hold over the USA, forever. The jews lost which is why they're going absolutely insane.
>>537341370Realistically what is the other option? +4 years of special military operations?
>>537347727if Russians can why can't Americans?
>>537348618One - the war is so unpopular that Congress was actually forced to act. Republicans wanted to finally declare war congressionally but they halted this move because they realized it wouldn't pass. The Democrats now have the opportunity to try the same motion again and get the war formally cancelled, victory or no victory.2) Choking out 20% of the world's oil supply is shitty for the first few months. But the eggheads said that if the conflict doesn't halt by September then the true fuckening happens: not enough oil is in the oil distribution system to keep the oil distribution system functioning.
