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Amazing how short the last thread was, given the crap on this forum and how much everyone loves talking about Jews. I guess you're scared to dive in deeper than hate?

Take the following suppositions:

- Esotericism is the most powerful force in the world. While hard to locate the center of it, it doesn't just develop ideology; it transforms how people think. This root skill required for elites, and it is the root skill that plebs lack.
- The Christian church killed most esotericism in the west.
- Jewish esotericism survived, and in the 14th century it began to repopulate elite circles with esotericism. For instance, the Medicis were not Jewish, but Florence had one of the largest concentrations of Jews in all of Europe at the time (don't quote me on that, but I read it somewhere).
- In the centuries that followed, the Jewish symbols and ideas have permeated through the elite class and spawned off other secret societies (including the Golden Dawn, which is the precursor to a lot of 20th century stuff). Now, it seems like everything is actual "Jews" or crypto Jews because it uses the same symbolism as Jews.
- All of the West has been Judaized, not just through Christianity but because Christianity killed off pagan esotericism, leaving only Jewish esotericism to fill the gap.

So to be clear, there are a lot of Jews among the higher ranks of power, and this is to be expected if they are the only intact culture with esoteric elements. However, they are far from the only faction. It's more that it _appears_ to be all Jews because of the allegories and metaphors. I don't even think Israel is Jewish. It's just an Anglo-elite military base, military contractor hub, and intelligence services hub. So overall, a military-industrial complex colony.
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Kike thread

The Jewish Internet Defense Force (JIDF) isn't here to debate, learn, or even convince anyone—they exist purely to damage control, deflect, and suppress anything that threatens their fragile worldview. They don't engage in honest discussion because they can't afford to. Jewishness collapses the second it's exposed to real scrutiny, so their only tactics are derailment, accusation, and censorship. When they see a post they can't refute, they don't challenge it—they call it AI-generated, spam, or beg the janitors to move it somewhere obscure. They don't want a discussion; they want a safe space where no one questions their Holohoax.

This is why their presence is so pathetic. Real conviction doesn't need protection—truth stands on its own. But kikes? They're like children plugging their ears and screaming whenever reality intrudes. They cry about being "persecuted" while demanding special treatment, moderation bias, and the ability to flood every space with their dogma unchecked. The fact that they have to rely on mods and spam instead of argument tells you everything—you don't need to defend what's real, but you do need to protect a dying lie. That's all kikes have left: weak men clinging to a collapsing lie, praying no one notices.
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Revelation 2:9
Revelation 3:9
Romans 2:28-29
Philippians 3:3
1 John 2:22-23
2 John 1:9-11

You don't even need to engage with pilpul. Just post these Bible verses in their entirety or in part. You don't even need to elaborate.
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>>537343312
>There is no secret to be revealed, all you need to understand power is absolute and money buys power
Esotericism is about personal power before societal power. Power in the physical realm is considered "profane" because it disturbs your ability to achieve power in the spiritual realm.

It's not complicated, but there are secrets to be revealed. You can look up most of this. Like I said, it takes dedication to sift through the bullshit. The secret exists behind a defacto wall of bullshit.

Hell, you could read Plato (and he's ANCIENT) and get a decent grasp if you read him correctly.
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>>537352680
>Nazi
>posting bible verses
Hi, fag.
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I'm gonna reveal the biggest secret of all. Like I said, it's all hidden in plain sight because people don't analyze what they read, if they read at all. You could read a million books and collect nothing if you're only looking at the surface level definition of words, which is literally what pilpull is. The fag above has no understanding of this.

The secret is that spirit exists between body and mind. The Christian trinity never elevates the spirit above all. Old animistic, pagan religions did, whether they had developed concepts of gods or not.

The "mind" is the mind's rationality, and the body is a lot (similar to Freud's id) which includes instincts, reflexes, senses, blood and flesh.

The spirit is vague and difficult to discern between them. That ambiguity creates the perception that it is not physical. That is NOT the point. It could very well have a physical grounding but represent abstract principles that you can't easily point to.

Anyway, the spirit integrates the mind and body. If you have no spirit or soul, these things are divided in you, and you disassociate whenever you engage with one or the other. To reassociate is to develop your spirit, which is to develop your will. That is what all spiritual work amounts to.

Orthodoxies exist to keep order in the physical plane, and esoteric traditions exist underneath them to distribute this knowledge to those who can handle it without fucking themselves up.
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>>537353375
So who told you not to know this? Who killed people, burned books to achieve this end? The CHRISTIAN CHURCH.

So before you start going "oh the jews don't want you to know this", the call is coming from inside the house, you faggots.
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>>537352648
>reeeeeeeee
Are you in Tel Aviv or Eglin Air Force Base? I can never keep track.
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The Khazar tribes were being pressured to take either Islam or Christianity as their religion, but some of them settled for Judaism.

Now some people call them "fake Jews", but I just consider them a mix. These Jews have preserved the culture, language, and traditions of the Pharisees so well, and they've managed to take back Jerusalem after all this time. I don't believe fake Jews would care this much.

These are crimes of passion, revenge. This is actually unbelievable when you stop and think about what these Jews have accomplished. They have not only survived without a homeland, preserving their culture, language, and traditions, but they've managed to enslave the world through the shadows almost completely undetected.

So, I refuse to give the credit to Turkish nomads who have no connection to Judaism or Jerusalem. I consider what's happening today VERY Biblical, as the Jews are forcing the world to look back to Jerusalem. So, you better read the Bible and the Quran, and maybe study the Talmud if you want to know what you're talking about. You can't begin to understand the conflict in the world today unless we talk about the two things we were told never to discuss at the dinner table, and that's politics and religion.
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>>537353880
Bro, they aren't even that important. Have you heard of the Anglo-American Establishment?
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>>537356801
Who are you kidding? lol
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>>537356951
The new elite is a result of the managerial revolution, and the elite managers started out of projects orchestrated by the Anglo American establishment.

Try and contest it. Or, just keep being a fag and hurl poo.
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>>537357066
Dude, they get their information from Jewish wizards, it's not that complicated.
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>>537357109
It was exclusive to Jews in the 1400s. That was 600 years ago.
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>>537357255
It existed thousands of years before Jews ever existed, but OK.
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>>537357315
Yea I know, and then the Christian Church killed them all.

It also existed in the East that whole time, but also just in small pockets because Islam did the exact same thing that Christians did.

Actually, it was only when the Turks invaded and co-opted Islam that it really became the menace that it is today.
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>>537357398
The Church didn't kill anybody it actually incorporated all their Gnostic heresy covertly. Pretty soon you had conversos (not) teaching gentiles the Bible lol. That's why the establishment fell and Protestantism exists. But you're right, it still exists in the East, 'cause that's where it comes from and what we're trying to get away from.
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>>537357573
What kind of christcuck nonsense is this? Gnosticism is deeper truth, not "heresy".

Picrel is one of the old west's most famous temple. What do you think the temple is and what does it say?
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>>537357870
Yeah, I knew you were a crypto Jew faggot. Begone, vile wretch.
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>>537357933
Just address the question. You won't because it exposes you.

>Know Thyself
>Gnosisticim
>Gnosis = Self Knowledge

Holy fuck, it wasn't complicated.

Do you drink a lot? Is that how you keep down your cognitive dissonance?
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>>537357870
it looks like some kind of nigger worship, rabbi...
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>>537359550
>Nietzsche found in classical Athenian tragedy an art form that transcended the pessimism found in the so-called wisdom of Silenus. The Greek spectators, by looking into the abyss of human suffering depicted by characters on stage, passionately and joyously affirmed life, finding it worth living. The main theme in The Birth of Tragedy is that the fusion of Dionysian and Apollonian Kunsttriebe ("artistic impulses") forms dramatic arts or tragedies. He argued that this fusion has not been achieved since the ancient Greek tragedians.

Read books, faggot.
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>>537352545
>esotericism is the most powerful force in the west
nah, its money.
>the church killed esotericism
accurate
>jewish esotericism survived
true
>the medicis were not jewish
*record scratch*
you know they were bankers, right?
you know they opened up a fake platonic academy just to damage control the narratives coming out of the lost european works finding their way back into europe
>golden dawn
not as influential as youd think
>all of the west has been judaized
thank christianity for that.
>there are alot of jews among the higher ranks of power, and this is to be expected if they are the only intact culture with esoteric elements. however they are far from the only faction.
>anglo-elite
you mean the anglo elite who keep mohel's on retainer to circumcise their sons, who declare war on their own supposed "homelands", who interbreed with jews and niggers?

what is it you even think *jews* are? theyre that. theyre not the torah believers. theyre the people who concocted the torah, and later christianity, as a means of social and power engineering.

israel is populated with gutter jews who actually believe the torah is real
but there are the elite, anglo-banker-jews who manufactured two world wars, who literally own israel as a private country (though most of its property is owned by greek orthodox christians and leased to them lol) and who know the torah is bullshit
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>>537357870
*gnosticism was an ATTEMPT at deeper truth

what gnosticism is is jews attempting to reconcile a hellenic philosophical pagan mode of refining ultimate truths with their own cultural beliefs predicated on jewish supremacism. the two are inversions of one another, and so naturally the gnostics went utterly insane. started talking about tranny babies and cat faced gods, they completely lost the plot. thats why the label "gnostic" is applied derisively and ironically. its like when christians use the word logos, aka legos. only in the legos case christians are self-applying it.
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>>537352702

The vaguepost KING
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>>537356801

Pathetic
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>>537352545
Christianity was set up to be a slave religion... by... jews
You're literally just trying to justify your own group's unscrupulous activities.
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>>537356801
>>537361587
i cant believe he just dropped that normie shit
i thought this was a serious thread
next he'll be talking about operation paperclip and how nazis control the federal reserve from antarctica
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>>537360982
>nah, its money.
It's a lever of course, but who controls the lever?
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>>537360982
>you know they opened up a fake platonic academy just to damage control the narratives coming out of the lost european works finding their way back into europe
Fake how? The genuine enlightenment comes out of Florence in part as a result of their funding.

>golden dawn
>not as influential as youd think
I was just using them as an example. Most 20th century cults seem to stem from them, or at least are inspired by them.

>you mean the anglo elite who
Ya, they are faggots. It's not that they are "true Anglos". It's that this era of power still stems from the full reach of the British Empire. So, they relate to that network.

>what is it you even think *jews* are? theyre that. theyre not the torah believers. theyre the people who concocted the torah, and later christianity, as a means of social and power engineering.
All law is social engineering, but you'd need to demonstrate why this law was particularly malicious.
I also don't think the people who wrote the Torah were also the people who wrote the Talmud, but I'm open to new information.

>>537361443
I agree the creation story autism is gay. I'm just saying any truth within gnosticism is the same truth that has always been.
Also, there were lots of different groups calling themselves gnostic. Some better than others.

>>537361501
kek
Real spirituality is existential and trying, then it becomes easy but in some senses never really is (and that's because you choose to continue). The universe favors the emergence of free will but not the total satisfaction of it, so you will have battles.

>>537361617
No, Christianity was ORIGINALLY a separatist movement in Judea (actually Syria to be a little more accurate). They fought the Romans in several wars (66 AD, Masada, for starters). Rome then adopted it because they had lots of separatists, and they tried to make it not about separatism. Then, they killed anyone with more profound ideas. It's not a glamorous beginning, but "slave religion" is a stretch.
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>>537361680
>operation paperclip and how nazis
Nazis were set up by the same Anglosphere network to balkanize Europe. Same network that supported Marx, same network that sent Marxists to France and Germany (where it failed), same network that sent them to Russia where it succeeded.

I'm a "normie"? You're the one who bought the official narrative.

>the federal reserve
This is a major fulcrum in "the machine", and that's what the international elite have set up. It's a machine.

>from antarctica
There are lots of secretive bases, but many of them hide in plain sight. No need to go to Antarctica for that.
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>>537363048
>"slave religion" is a stretch.
Christianity today does create mindslaves, but I don't think it achieved that even when Rome made it the official religion. That took centuries to evolve to that point, and that included probably well-meaning autists with zero spirituality who spoke on false authority. In the end, Christianity as we know it today robs you of free will and places all of that energy in a fake and gay external being.
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>>537352545
I don't think you understand. You are so far past being able to contain or 'deradicalize' what happening in the culture now. You aren't putting the toothpaste back in the tube, the best you can do is just live quietly and stop pissing off the whole planet with your murderous treachery and exploitation.
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>>537365051
You think culture is "radicalized"? Honestly, read some books. People are just as foolish as they ever were.

It's sad that posters just assume I am jewish for daring to question the 4chan narrative. You can try all you like, but I'm just going to go with what makes sense to me.
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>>537362552
jews, obviously
is this another "water is wet" thread?
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>>537365767
Do you actually know how finance works, or are you another one of these retards that just says "it's the bankers".

Let's go with that line of thought for a second. Which bankers?

- Credit and currency are controlled by large consumer/universal banks (universal banking established in the late 90s). The big four consumer banks own the shares in the regional federal reserve offices.
- What about the investment banks? You've got Goldman Sachs which helps with mergers and acquisitions, IPOs, and things of that nature. They have a lot of political access as well.
- What about passive investors? There, you have the big three, most notably Black Rock. They own the lion's share of the stock market and use all of our votes to make decisions guided by their own agenda.
- Oh, can't forget the international bankers who make loans to nations and then sell their own debts on secondary markets, leading to investment packages like Brady Bonds which funded the collapse of Soviet Russia. The International Monetary Fund is famous for bankrupting Argentina. Can't forget the Bank of International Settlements.
- This is going to be met with skepticism, but in my opinion, if accounting/finance is your specialization at a corporation, you are functionally a "personal banker" for them. So, if the finance department is where you end up getting executives at a major corporation (and this is true for many of them; the promotion of finance bros over engineers is why Boeing's quality went in the trash), then it's functionally "ran by bankers" and is thus a corporation acting like a bank and thus includable in our list of evil bankers.

Look, the truth is that this machine is complex. There are connections between many of these levers, but "Jewishness" is not the connective tissue. It exists in a lot of places for the same reason that blacks are overrepresented in crime. It's just something they do.

The real connection is esoteric societies and their public face, thinktanks.
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>>537366933
>Credit and currency are controlled by large consumer/universal banks (universal banking established in the late 90s). The big four consumer banks own the shares in the regional federal reserve offices.
One very important note for you retards that only look at the Federal Reserve (which I agree is important, but it relates moreso to how it completely upends the American School of economics): 95% of money supply is created by the universal banks on their consumer side making loans to people. The Big Four are:
1. JPMorgan Chase
2. Bank of America
3. Wells Fargo
4. Citigroup
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>>537352545
>- Esotericism is the most powerful force in the world. While hard to locate the center of it, it doesn't just develop ideology; it transforms how people think. This root skill required for elites, and it is the root skill that plebs lack.
In other words, Jews have it, Goyim do not.

>- The Christian church killed most esotericism in the west.
Yes, until recently it did a good job at keeping kikel death magick at bay.

>- Jewish esotericism survived, and in the 14th century it began to repopulate elite circles with esotericism. For instance, the Medicis were not Jewish, but Florence had one of the largest concentrations of Jews in all of Europe at the time (don't quote me on that, but I read it somewhere).
Spread with the increase of usury.
Huh, that's a mighty odd coincidence.
What's the Hebrew word for coincidence again?

>- In the centuries that followed, the Jewish symbols and ideas have permeated through the elite class and spawned off other secret societies (including the Golden Dawn, which is the precursor to a lot of 20th century stuff). Now, it seems like everything is actual "Jews" or crypto Jews because it uses the same symbolism as Jews.
Jews use jewish symbolism.
Makes sense.

>- All of the West has been Judaized, not just through Christianity but because Christianity killed off pagan esotericism, leaving only Jewish esotericism to fill the gap.
Judaism has severely wounded Christianity with Zionism, feminism, multiculturalism, and again...usury.
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>>537358100
>Gnosis = Self Knowledge
You will be your own god?
Where have we heard that one before?
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>>537367263
>Yes, until recently it did a good job at keeping kikel death magick at bay.
You're confused. Did individuals gaining a sense of freedom cause the cultural meltdown of the 20th/21st century? Or did the CIA, the Frankfurt School, the Rhodes Society, and other networks create the narratives to capture people as the world governance machine created by these same societies grew in size and power? Why do people honestly believe that the 1960s cultural revolution was any different from the 2010s?
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>>537367457
>You will be your own god?
No, once again, you're confused. You will have knowledge of yourself. That doesn't mean you are god. "God" was the concept created when you didn't have knowledge of yourself, and now you're trying to take that idea and relocate it in a system that doesn't include it. If you really want the perspective of what god is for someone who actually knows himself and other things: it's just physics and nature bro. No, I will not elaborate.
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>>537367263
>Spread with the increase of usury.
Wow, are we really still doing "usury"? Please see here:>>537366933
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>>537367472
Why do you think magick is any different now from then?
Only the uniforms have changed.
https://youtu.be/XAJVgLyJKx0

Magick is the art and/or science of causing change to occur in conformity with will.
You seek to impose your will, over God’s, onto Creation.
It is a sin for that reason. It is why God dispersed our forefathers at Babel.
Magick never works correctly. It always misses the target, sometimes by a lot, sometimes by a little. This is because we cannot do it right. God’s attribute of Omnipresence, Omnipotence, and Omniscience are essential to His will being properly done in creation. Without that, we are doomed to forever fail. All we can really do is mess the place up, like we have done from the beginning.
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>>537367764
I will say, you really do speak like someone who is completely mind-controlled.
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>>537367533
>it's just physics and nature bro.
Have you ever seen a junk yard explode adn an airplane self-assemble itself and fly away from the explosion?
No.
Because creation requires a Creator.
Chaos is merely rearranging and destroying the things that have been created.
You are a fool proud of your many words.

That is the hardest sin to overcome.
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>>537367909
>Have you ever seen a junk yard explode adn an airplane self-assemble itself and fly away from the explosion?
The absence of evidence for how life came to be has nothing to do with your silly nursery rhyme.
The funny thing is, I'd be happy to call that self-assembling thing that we call life to be "god", and it would piss you off more than anything if I made you do it.
Who's hypocritical now, faggot?
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>>537352545
>Magical jews!
Pure obscurantism. They control the banks. It's that simple.
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>>537367064
Here's the truth about the Federal Reserve and the Big Four banks:
1. All but one person on Jekyll Island was part of the Yankee banking faction.
2. All of the Big Four are part of the Yankee banking faction.

What is the Yankee banking faction? I was the extended British Empire, some of whom became the Boston Brahmins, who then became investment bankers on Wall Street, who then started losing some money and wanted to rig the game in their favor.

Have a painted a clear timeline yet?
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>>537352545
Your pursuit of esoteric and occult practices is spiritually hazardous, as a practitioner, they may open you up to malevolent spiritual forces rather than God's will. Stop passing children through fire, practicing divination, telling fortunes, interpreting omens, sorcery, casting spells, consulting mediums or spiritists, and calling up the dead. It profits you nothing. Jews who deny the Christ Jesus are not your friends.
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>>537368219
>blah blah blah
Not reading your magic mind-control shit.

>>537368016
It's not being obscure. I've been rather explicit throughout this thread. I've not clearly described the major factions in think tanks, but we can go there next.
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>>537367992
>Who's hypocritical now, faggot?
You.
You are too proud to claim your chosen god.
He is happy with your choice, though.
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>>537368283
>teehee, I believe in a fairy tale, and in my fairy tale, you're super evil and stuff
Get real, faggot.
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>>537368281
You're burying it in all this symbolistic flimflam and esoteric hogwash . Nobody cares about that. It's about money.
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>>537352545
>people think
crux, you cant start like this.

when the merkaba remained out of the rest, what makes you think that paganism is better. their gods are defeated.

youre bound riding this dead horse wherever you go because youre cursed, amalek.
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>>537368314
>teehee, I believe in a fairy tale
Right back at you.
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>>537352545
The bots only respond to bait threads. kikes have made /pol/ unusable for all intentsive purposes.

And to answer you moronic statement about esotericism. Christianity is as esoteric as it comes, you are too simple to understand and too lazy to seek out people who can teach you.

And in answer to your question, get fucked and do the work yourself.
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>>537368389
>It's about money.
Hmm.
>No it's about bullets
>No it's about real estate
>No it's about geography
Ok well, my next question is going to be

>Who controls the money
>Who controls the bullets
>Who controls the real estate
>Who controls the geography

Do you see how critical thinking works? We don't stop at images in our head. We look principles and structure.

>It's who owns the money

Is it though? Is it who owns the money literally (as in, whose name is on the check), or is it who manages the money (as in, who cashes the check)?

How much money do you think a world elite of intelligence operatives would have to have to take over the world.

Now, keep in mind that the global drug trade, which predominantly runs through banks established within the network of the former British Empire handle the money laundering for this trillion dollar cash business. Small little fact.

Would they need more than a trillion dollars to run the deep state? Would they need more money to control every single market in the world, including every facet of banking previously mentioned?
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>>537368635
>Christianity is as esoteric as it comes
It was based on an esoteric origin. The separatist was indeed esoteric. However, it's done more to kill esotericism than anything else since then. You're a lying faggot if you say otherwise.
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>>537369082
Let's state the high level pattern for the people in the very back.

- He who controls money is he who manages money.
- Money managers are under the enforcement of global empire
- This global empire stems back to the remaining cells of the British Empire
- They run intelligence agencies and criminal cartels, not for profit but for power
- They are networked by secret societies, thinktanks, and other international bureaucratic organizations

>Ya, but all of that is Jewish
Please.
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>>537368622
It seems like whoever states the truth gets drugged.
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>>537352545
>Esotericism is the most powerful force in the world.
based retard
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>>537370410
>>537352545
The Pen, the Sword, the Purse, the King, the Cattle

The Pen sits highest, unhurried and dry,
inking the rules that the rest live by—
no crown on its head, no name on the door,
just members-only salons and a think-tank or four.

Beneath it the Sword, an old empire's ghost,
the last living cells of the realm that ruled most;
it trades not in profit but leverage and fear,
runs the spies and the cartels, breathes "Obey, my dear."
The Purse comes third—and let's be precise:

who manages money calls money's price.
Yet the Purse, for all its glittering art,
still takes its instructions from the Sword's cold heart.

Then the Politician-King, all sash and parade,
who fancies himself the one by whom laws are made—
a crown of papier-mâché, a throne built of foam,
he rules the six-o'clock news and is steered from home.

And last graze the Cattle, content in their field,
fed on the headlines the Pen has revealed;
they vote and they cheer and they never quite see
the Pen, the Sword, the Purse—nor where they might be.
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>>537373236
>Then the Politician-King,
Wow, I blundered this. It's just the crown.
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>>537367064
those brand names are meaningless, just like all brand names in current year are. you should be looking at those companies and reading them as "jews"
>>537366933
theres only one bank, the rothschild owned central bank.
when you decide whether or not entire countries can print or access their own currency, you no longer have a boss, you are the boss. the rothschilds are that boss. all wealth trickles down from the rothschilds, people are merely competing for their favour - aka the "economy"
because the primary bank responsible for issuing a government's currency is rothschild owned, the government subsequently has a boss, a ruler. when they issue their stamp of approval like "FDIC Insured", those are signs of government and subsequently rothschild approval.

just like no business can operate without the influx of jewish money, banks operate very much the same way. over time you can watch as company by company, bank by bank, religion by religion, each and every one of them became insolvent and required that (((private))) influx.
>just start your own bank bro
go ahead and try to exercise fractional reserve lending. youll quickly find that the federal reserve is under no obligation to take your calls. they will offer you terms, subjugation, a hostile takeover, if youre lucky. if they dont buy you out with their infinite money to purchase infinite assets, they will use their media apparatus to stir a controversy to cause a bank run on your specific bank. but we are way past that point, we are over a century into this rothschild occupation. thats why every generation has to work 2x as hard for 1/2 as much as the previous generation, because thats how usury works.



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