Factors and Probable events:-majority loss due to by-elections-start of recession-racial power political-interest-groups rising and rioting-MPs leaving, due to political pressure-provinces leaving-MPs rebelling - Carney does not entertain disagreement among his caucus-provinces secedingThe stage is set, lads.It's just a matter of time.
I’m more pessimistic
>>537358470Given the precedent set by Carneys rise, and the equivalent situations in France and the UK over the last five years, it isn’t going to end with anything other than the same party in with an even more incompetent leader and an even more unstable government. Seeing that the French, UK, and German governments have repeatedly collapsed and stubbornly refused to change in the past ten years I think it’s time to say that the parliamentary system is a failure and the management class is simply refusing to comply with any kind of representation.
>>537358520The party is infighting, more than usual, per MP reports.If they're complaining to outsiders, they no longer see cooperation within the party.
>>537358669Has that continuity of government survived publicly known infighting within a year of the election, with a 2 seat majority?Global / CTV / CBC are all being critical of the government, which is very abnormal of a Liberal government.
>>537358865The French government collapsed something like 4 or 5 times in the span of 6 months and Macron is still in charge and refusing to form any kind of functioning coalition. I know Canada isn’t France but they are in the same circles and systems and none of the other countries have relented. Frankly I think you only got rid of Trudy because he genuinely thought he was universally loved and having a few people confront him hurt his feelings. Carney is an international banker, I don’t expect him to go anywhere and I certainly don’t expect the government to include anything close to opposition, even if it means having a non-functioning government. It’s just the international norm. I’m not saying it won’t collapse, I’m just saying it’s probably not going to matter. I’d love to be wrong.
>>537358470https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kbkysPTnHcSocial media has primed an environment where this type of degeneracy is not only accepted, it thrives. Social media desensitizes and radicalizes even moderates into believing heinous and abhorrent behavior is acceptable under the correct context. Spend just 5 minutes on Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, you will find hordes of these deranged people. They exist among us. The FBI knows about them but never acts until it is far too late. Western society is on a one-way fast track to collapse as long as social media continues to destroy minds and decay the culture.
>>537358520I foresee scandals ending this government.They already are dealing with a previous government's doing - PrescribeIT - $250M, little useage.This is much bigger than ArriveCAN - which was also began during Trudeau (as was PrescribeIT), but was only $20M, gone to 2 people who subcontracted, with poor results.https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/conservatives-auditor-general-request-prescribeit-9.7179223
>>537358520I think OP is right but that it is going to just lead to things getting even worse. There's no off ramp.
>>537359054I understand what you're saying.I don't see Carney caving in a way that Trudeau may have. But I also don't see Carney's MPs weathering the court of public opinion. The Liberal government is becoming toxic.
>>537359117>Canadian minds are rotten, it's overTrue, and many support the Liberals as zealots support their religions.However, that doesn't bolster his MPs to weather the storm of public opinion and toxic caucus culture.
>>537359209The only offramp is provinces leaving Canada.Is the NWT really going to stay in Canada, or might they prefer to be American? And are the Western provinces really likely to stay?
>>537359054Nha Trudeau was hated by everyone who wasnt brain dead, especially everyone old enough to remember his father deeds. The adoptive one, not the cuban one.
>>537358470>It's just a matter of time.2 more _____.
>>537358470I want to add:-Trump harming Ontario auto workers, by limiting trade-infrastructure, such as Calgary's water system, having 25-50% capacity losses for months, in recent years
>>537359487Trudeua was liked or thought neutral, by most non right-wing people.
>>537359128>PrescribeIT"Every time Ottawa awards IT contracts, we see the same movie: deficient management, no oversight, and enormous costs and expensesI'm so glad that I don't actually pay income taxes to support all these ridiculous boondoggles. Recall the Phoenix payroll debacle about a decade ago? >. Launched in 2016, it became one of the most prominent administrative failures in government history, leading to chronic underpayments, overpayments, and a massive backlog of pay transactions that has cost billions to manage and stabilize.
>>537358470>-racial power political-interest-groups risingAlready happening to the OLP which is fucking hilarious. The guy votes that shit in, wants it badly, gets it and suddenly loses party leadership. Wild shit, future staring us in the face lol.
>thinking back benchers care about anything more than their pensions and will actually revoltCanadian politicians dgaf about policy or actual progress, theyre all grifters looking to feed on the decaying remains of the cash cow we call public service. That shouldve been clear after the nearly half dozen defections from even the most hardline conservatives. They know they are mostly faceless votes with zero accountability to their constituents. They dont even put their faces on their campaign signs.
>>537362211>Recall the Phoenix payroll debacle about a decade ago?Have they finally cleared the backlogs of payments?>checks factsHilarious. 11 years later, they're still working on resolving payments:https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/here-s-what-a-decade-of-the-phoenix-pay-crisis-looks-like-in-numbers-9.7095395
>>537362581Hopefully Dunkins puts Tims out of business.They've actually given Rebel News employees a lifetime ban from their resteraunts, after Menzies exposed their lies about hiring Canadian workers.
>>537364679>defectionsAre you speaking of the recent floorcrossings?
>>537363188Yeah, Ontario has been a mess for a while.How about that Wynn era power plant fiasco, which had 2 resignations, and the next election her party losing official party status...What is the state of your electricity currently?
New thread text, suggestions welcome:Factors and Probable events:-CBC, CTV, Global all critical of a Liberal government, which is unusual-PrescribeIT (launched during Trudeau's leadership) costing $250M and not used often-majority loss due to by-elections-start of recession-racial power political-interest-groups rising and rioting-Liberal caucus infighting becoming publicly known-MPs leaving, due to political pressure-provinces seceding-MPs rebelling - Carney does not entertain disagreement among his caucus-Trump harming Ontario auto workers, by limiting trade-infrastructure, such as Calgary's water system, having 25-50% capacity losses for months, in recent years-increasing taxes, increasing public sector employment, decreasing capital investment, population declineThe stage is set, lads.It's just a matter of time.
>>537365912Looks like the cost was 0.9-1.1 $B.
Wonder what the Native's will do once provinces secede, will their gibs go?
>>537366813The natives get some money, but most stays with the chiefs.The natives can get jobs, they are good for manual labor.
>>537367172The Squamish Chief and Council took 3 billion dollars, wish the Native's would walk into the band office and kill him.
Canada will go full communist by the 2030s
>>537358470PPC bros...our time is now.
>>537358760theatre for more snaps, this is canada
bamp
Still voting purple
>>537367261Meh, little different than what happens in Canada outside the reserves - cronyism.
>>537367314Imagine thinking it will take that long.I'm thinking 2028 or 2029.
>>537367391>Bernier>tactical libertarianYeah, nty.
>>537358470>provinces leaving>provinces secedingnot in a billion years, even if a referendum magically passed (and good luck with all the meddling the feds have proven to be capable of)canada has built an impregnable bureaucratic hellscape of indigenous lobbying, "claritty" act loopholes, charter authoritarianism, backroom ratfucking and more indigenous lobbying, even if the people wanted to separate it's essentially not possible for a province to leave canada thanks to trudeau and chrétienVLQL
>>537370688>neverEventually, it will.Or, more likely, sovereign states within provinces once the provinces are unable to provide for, and control, the populations.
>>537370738at this point i'll take an implosion as long as ottawa burns, still not moving back to québec until it sorts its shit out or italy becomes worse
>>537365925Everything is going to come down to whether a favourable renewal of USCMA happens. If it is allowed to expire July 1, the US tariff system will apply to a huge amount of Canadian trade that is currently exempt under USMCA. Businesses will have very little certainty to invest. Real recession. Major job losses. Inability to reopen the immigration flood gates.Everything for Carney relies on a favourable renewal or extension of USMCA in a few weeks.
>>537370947Quebec will be next to suffer, after Ontario.They survive on gibs.They're hanging on, because of hydro electricity and government work.
>>537370990I imagine that it will lapse, or be renewed weaker.OFC, there will be certain exemptions, that benefits US industry.
>>537370301The Native's don't realize they can just kill their chiefs, but killing Carney or Treadeu would be more difficult.>Just that these Natives are too docile.
>>537371005gee if only the leech that survives on gibs wanted to leave thank montréal anglos
>>537370990Carney has been doing his best to kowtow to Trump but it isn't enough. The USA is losing control of the world so they will have to resort to fortress America and in such case Canada as a country has no future. All considered if you're west coast things will probably end up fine after a lot of pain but east coast is a raped husk.
>>537371081All signals are pointing to Trump not wanting to renew at all (at least with Canada). He likes to operate in open uncertainty, to be able to press and retract his leverage at any given moment. Not sure what Carney can do about it, but so far he seems to be signaling confidence, maybe as a show for the markets. A courageous defiance on the way to the gallows.
>>537359411No way is any tribe of chugs going to want to join the USA. They know the treatment they'll be getting with a ruthlessly free enterprise America. They're going to huddle up to the Liberal Party as close as they can get.People bitch about Quebec getting transfer payments; look at the Yukon and the NWT per capita take.
umm wrong, carney has thus far unlocked a hundred billion dollars for canada he is doing a GREAT job
>>537367172>they are good for manual labor.
>>537367172crazy how much people just talk out of their ass here
>>537371396I'm Native and got 2k last year at christmas and last one too, I do not want to side with the liberal party. I guess it'd be the end of my free gibs.>also I get a 1070 a month from welfare.
>>537371654I'm Native and I modify my resume with jobs I did not do. Use defunct Canadian companies. Kek you get so many phonecalls and they desire you!
>>537371793just keep pumping away bud, milk this resource colony for all you can...canada never stood for or meant anything anyways
>>537371850I will milk it for all I can; I just wish we had a weimer miracle happen. And all the White's became National Socialists. If you did not read Mein Kempf you should consider reading it. The jews really did brainwash White people en mass, and it is sad. I want my old country back and it's hard to face everyday.
>>537371224They were bluffs for gibs.But, they do vote blue.So fuck the West.
>>537371265I don't foresee it getting that bad, but I do see the loss of a market as a decrease SOL.And yes, would hit the East MUCH harder than the West (AB btw).AB might not secede as a whole, but there are factions in the North.
>>5373734031995 wasn't a bluff, 60% of francophones voted to leave>So fuck the West.something we can agree on
>>537371283Yeah, the turnaround is odd.Wonder what blind-sighted him - could be that surprising uncertainty Trump gives.I think he's trying to show off that Europe wants to trade more with us, but that seems for domestic consumption - the US aren't idiots.
>>537371396>Indians gets lots, esp in the NorthMeh, government is probably only 20% efficient in its spending, and there is much more spent there. A free-er West (including Yukon (word choice, lols)), could give a competitive offer.
>>537371476>umm wrong, carney has thus far unlocked a hundred billion dollars for canada he is doing a GREAT jobFren, it's>Carneyor>Carney, the greatSocial Credit - 1To the gulags
>>537371654Indians are fun people, I like them, I date them.They have a high tolerance for pain - blue collar material.
>>537371729>Native, getting gibs, 2k>government worker getting 6k, 20% government efficiency, thus getting 4.8k extra than work is worth in private sectory.>2x as many government workers than are nativesYeah, the problem isn't natives
>>537372050>native wanting all Whites to become National SocialistsAre natives included in that group, or?...
>>537359411>provinces leaving Canada.Alberta won't leave. At least, not this turn around. It is interesting to see some action from them however. But the separation talk from the government is entirely in order to gain an advantage over judiciary and budgeting allocation, and show that Alberta can play the same game it perceives Quebec has having played with separation threats (Albertans, at least the delusional ones, need to believe this, otherwise they understand their plight to be inferior). Quebec is not anywhere close to leaving. Carney is trying to find new ways to bend backwards for us. Whatever he ends up doing to appease Alberta, it won't come at Quebec's expense. The secret offramp is mass immigrant unrest caused by soon-to-be-introduced full bilingual requirements in government offices. This is the final stage of the Laurentian Elite Establishment plan.
>>537373484Each coast is different, but excels at different work.Genetics are surely already different between the two.But yes, I suppose Quebec, insofar as it wanted to secede, suffered from a hetergeneous population.
>>537373903>plight to be inferiorWhat are your jabs so long winded...>appease QCI'm sure they don't want the elections to be happening simultaneously.>this time aroundIt's the start.
>>537374049>What are your jabs so long winded...I assume you mean why? I am Laurentian Elite Stock. Superior to you, intellectually and morally (although, don't drop me in a forest I'll die of thirst in two hours). Fate has conspired to keep me from wealth and power, but it cannot suppress the fact of my natural eminence over you. Having rejected the values of my kind because of my many failures, I wish for nothing else but to see Toronto burn.
>>537374291>eliteI choose>(intentionally) ambiguousI think you're a regular poster in my threads, I recognize the feigned arrogance and entertaining babble.
>>537374359>I think you're a regular poster in my threads, I recognize the feigned arrogance and entertaining babble.Perhaps, but one does not disprove the other, now, does it?
>>537374465>replies tangentially and ambiguously to pointsAlmost like a caricature of public sector productivity.
>>537359128Trudeau survived like 7 scandals in a row. Never underestimate the boomers who fell for elbows up.
>>537374291I wouldn't go around telling you're a frenchjew but if you want to hang from a light post more power to you
>>537375049Yes, while the seceding elections were maddening, his slim minority was bolstered well.
I think I have cancer but I'm just letting it have at 'er.
>>537375085It's an act, for jest.He could be an oil rig supervisor for all we know.
>>537358470>-majority loss due to by-electionsPlease god let this happen soon before the "Liberals" can cram through their authoritarian bullshit.
>>537374291Hello JewNot enough babies to kill right now?
>>537375149It will eventually be enacted regardless.We're upon another age of failed government socialization of all costs, and extreme taxation and strict governance. Until they can no longer afford it, ofc.
>>537358470His path to glorious victory is getting rid of all the jeets that came to Canada in the past 15 years.
>>537374291>>537375165>kbecois Jew, and a LauranteenThat's as elite as they come.Is this conversation thread meant to have me laughing so hard? If not, the K/J/L is unintentionally hilarious.
>>537375226>because that's possible in any wayCarney crashing Canada's SOL won't push them out - no one will accept as much of them, and dot Indians won't want it either.Bad take, IMHO frfr.
>>537375165>Hello Jew>Not enough babies to kill right now?I will exercise patience, as we are clearly on different sides of the IQ Communication Gap (if you don't know what that is, you should what more TedX). As I have stated before, I am dejected, with no power or wealth, and thus am removed from the normal access a Jewish man would be entitled to the baby-sacrificing pipeline in any anglo country. I happen to not have any semitic blood, however, but am privy to the fact that we are trying to phase out the baby-sacrificing and get Jews to accept MAID as a substitute. The current demands from the Jewish groups in Toronto are, in part, caused by this.
>>537371396the north isn't viable without transfer payments desu, like the climate isn't fit for human habitation (apart from subsistence hunter-gatherers) unless you subsidize the hell out of it
>>537376183>dumb, since don't watch TedXIs AI commenting the funniest comments ever?I revise my estimate of you, my God.You are a /Qubecois / Jew / Laurantien / (former) Redditor (QJLR)
>>537376183>baby-sacrificing and get Jews to accept MAID as a substitute.My suspicion >>537376687 confirmed.Compound post - I can't read your comments without laughing.
>>537376438Yes, ofc.But the feds likely want to keep some inhabitance there, for international land disputes.
>>537373830Most Native's won't don the swastika nor the banner of Hitler. Would be nice
>>537375140most likely but anti-seimisitms are increasing in Canada
