Wendeburg (Lower Saxony) – Natalie Schell (46) still finds the missing heat pumps strange. The missing doorbell makes her suspicious. When she looks through the window, she’s in for a shock. The kitchen is gone. “That’s when it finally dawned on me,” says the homeowner. She alerts the police.When the officers open the door, their uneasy feeling turns into sheer horror. Room by room, it becomes clear what must have happened here. The tenants didn’t just pack up their things and slip away. They stripped the house bare. Even the toilets, sinks, faucets, and door hardware are missing. Even the underfloor heating system was dismantled and stolen. “Practically everything was taken,” says Schell.For Natalie Schell, the semi-detached house in Wendeburg (Lower Saxony) was an investment in her children’s future. She didn’t have the new house built until 2024. She lives in one half herself, and in early 2025 she rented out the other half to a Ukrainian family with six children. 140 square meters, five rooms, all brand-new. Rent including utilities: 1,895 euros paid by the Jobcenter.
>>537399758>Rent including utilities: 1,895 euros paid by the Jobcenterso she's essentially a welfare leechnot my problem
>>537399758in germany most rentals don't come with kitchensshe probably took it with her to the new place>140 sq m, 5 roomswhat the fuck
>>537399758dumb bitch rented to slavs. this will happen a lot more because theyll never learn. because theyre scared of the racism police.
>>537400039Yep. Fucking boomer trash. that entire generation ran mom and pop rental operations. scumbags
>>537399758ha, now you know how it feels when foreigners come in and take all your stuff! sucks, doesn't it?
>>537399758She decided who to rent out all on her own. She could have rented out to the German couple who has been trying to find a better place for 2 years but can't find anything.Instead she decided to rent out to eight foreigners scamming the state, because she wanted in on that scam and have the Amt pay whatever absurd rent she demands.Now she found out why you don't do business with scammers, kek.Do you think she'll learn her lesson? My guess is "no".
>>537400039This.>do business with scammers because they promise that the rewards will be generous>get scammedHow unexpected, kekI hope the insurance refuses to pay for it.
>>537400554I love how marketing words coined by "institutes" made their way into the "-ooomer" lingo.Truly well done comrades, WELL DONE!
>>537400039>>537401082Yeah but I still wish that those porkies (I wonder how brown those supposed Ukros were, propaly afircans or gypsys with fake papers) get brutally tortured for that shit and that they have to pay the damages in organs.>>537400223Whats the problem?its pretty decent for 5 rooms.
>>537401655it's decent for two roomsor five closets
>>537399758There was some german anon in a thread a week ago saying that it's normal for germans to move their entire kitchen (cabinets, appliances, everything) when moving apartments. This doesn't sound much beyond that, so what's the problem?For the record, you guys are crazy for moving everything.
>>537402624>This doesn't sound much beyond that, so what's the problem?The problem is that all the appliances are owned by the landlord and not the renter in this specific case.They also stole the heating system.
>>537402968I see, thanks anonso, uh... how's the weather over there?
>>537399758She voted for this every step of t he way; no refunds!
>>537402118Not sure if retarded american or a troll.>>537403067Pretty warm.Guess we have to build and blow up some more Nuke plants to fix that.
>>537400223>in germany most rentals don't come with kitchenswtf no, what the fuck are you even talking about
>>537403067We had 35 degree celsius peak and it's now down to 33 degree celsius.So pretty warm. I live directly under the roof so it's extra hot in here.
>>537403713look it up anon>>537403618not sure if retarded euro or just used to living in closetsthe average new build american home is 2350 square feetthe average number of bedrooms in those new build homes is 2.8do the math and weep, europoor
>>537404069I lived in Germany for 2 years and I didn't, and no one I knew, had to bring their own kitchen. Nor was that a cultural difference anyone talked about.
>>537404069I'd rather stay poor than living in a cardboard mansion. No matter how many bedrooms it has.
>>537399758>Ukrainian family with six childrenI hope she learned her lessons - don't rent to gypsies
>>537404182I don't know how you missed it anonif you want to believe I'm trolling and not look it up that's your choice>>537404239you've had ten years to disabuse yourself of this error, there's even two carboard houses threads on the catalog right now for you to educate yourself, so what's your excuse for forgetting that OSB is a superior construction material and the only reason you don't use it is because it's too expensive?
>>537404532>I don't know how you missed it anonBecause I actually lived there and have actual knowledge instead of getting all my info from Shitter.
>>537404566oh, you're doubling down, how disappointingstay wrong then, larper
>>537400572>Rapes and murders your family>Ha! You now know how it felt in the year of 2,500 B.C.!>What?! You're not a racist? But your skin is a different color!
>>537404654Your friends on Shitter have been fucking with you.
>>537400039typical boomerism. sell out your country for a couple shekels from the taxpayer
>>537404724>>537404850oh, you're tripling down.I personally know that you never lived in germany, since you didn't know about the kitchens.everything else is just you performing for lurkers. I don't feel any need to take part, for example my exposing your screenshots as cherrypicked or looking up the exact percentage of german rentals that come with or without kitchens. hell, OP let gypsies steal her kitchen so obviously some of them come furnished. mine did, my colleague's didn't, it was fucking hilarious.if lurkers want to believe you lived in germany and the kitchen thing is just a meme it doesn't affect me in the slightest. stop taking 4chan threads about gypsies stealing kitchen so seriously, you dumb larping faggot.
>>537399758> rent out to jobcenterShe asked for it.
>>537402624If you rent out something you're responsible for keeping it intact, and obviously most landlords don't want to be responsible for all sorts of random crap, including light fixtures in many cases .>bring your ownIt's different only with things that a custom tailored and installed, like a kitchen might be, at least where cabinets and such are concerned. usually the appliances can still be swapped out easily, but in those cases it depends. Could have a fridge and oven, or could have two holes where the fridge and oven go.It's also important for the renter, because the flat or house might come with antique trash appliances, which then break, and you get jewed either by being blamed for damage or rent being raised for the landlord to buy new ones for you (with a 200% tip).There are also cases where a place comes fully furnished, but it's not the rule.
>>537405609we inherited english law on "fixtures"if my tenant nailed something to the wall he can take it down when he leaves, but if he screwed it in it's mine
how can an entire White ethnic group descend into such a feral state? "The Ukrainian" is something that should be studied
>>537405869In principle there's a huge amount of flexibility in Germany. All down to what's written in the contract, and often there's some room for negotiations, too. Say you move out, but it's not freshly renovated, so some wear and tear, which would mean a deduction from your deposit, but say you brought the appliances and don't plan on keeping them, so offer the landlord to leave them in place, transfer ownership to them, to offset the costs.Can't predict what the exact outcome will be, but it's possible to arrange things however people can agree on it.Likewise, say you bring your own apliances, those in place may go into the cellar, and rent reduced slightly, since you're not using those things.Nobody can be forced to negotiate though, so some will be like, don't care, I'm changing nothing, while others will be happy to find a mutually beneficial arrangement to whatever issue.
>>537406252imagine if there were no mountainsspanish history would just be portugal and france taking turns plunderingconquest and reconquest would take a season instead of centuries, you'd raid galicia and come home with your spoils in less than a week
>>537406308it all sounds very practical until you realize thousands of germans put their kitchen cabinets in a van and reinstall them at their new rental every year.I hope the practice becomes less common over time, it's very inconvenient and expensive for young people moving between jobs.>>537406483explains poland too btw
>>537404069Good for you, atleast till the first wind blows it over. 592-650,sqf for 2 roomsaround 807 sqf for 3 rooms1020-1300sqf for 4If you as an amifat need more room to maneuver your wheelchair and 500 pound fram around then yes those spaces will be a little bit snug.
>>537406947>If you as an amifat need more room to maneuver your wheelchair and 500 pound fram aroundkek, I guess you can post cope and bantz at the same time, who knew
>>537406308>>537406871Usually the landlord cant be bothered with your appliences since now he would be responsible for them (upkeep) so usually its comon practise these days that the next tenant pays you a sum for your kitchen and you may take over the one in the new place.Point being dont be surprised if there is no kitchen/ the current guy wants to take it with him.
>>537399758top kek, she voted for that
>>537402968they are going to have Euro flat in Kiev now, all neighbours will be jealous
>>537407116Like I said Amifriend if you can aford more room for less its great.I would be perfectly fine with an appartment of 650 when alone.
>>537399758>Rent including utilities: 1,895 euros paid by the Jobcenter.She's a low-level participant in the bigger scam of immigration. Some people make a lot more money systematically with real estate and public money (and influencing politicians), but she's still a participant in the scam and deserves her fate. No sympathy.
>>537407240you're telling me in a few years there will just be a standard kitchen charge paid to the old tenant (who would be a stranger to you under normal circumstances), and no one will have to deal with physically moving their kitchen, but the charge will remain?how very dutch. finally I understand, the dutch are just germans plus time.
>>537408090Sure but who is that ratarded.The sacme is usually you rent out a dilapidated property you own and wiouth refugee exception wouldnt be able to rent otherwise.You run the scame by rrenting it on paper 2 or 4 times and squeze out some money.Thats how the gypsy landlords do it in Germany.But she must really have been a full blown Kötterrasen-Kartoffel renting a new object to gypsys.
>>537405468and additionally, she deserved it
>>537408090I googled the average rent for her state for an apartment/house that sizenot accurate obviously since it differs from city to city, but it seems she charged around 50% above market rateso yeah, she scammed the German people and if anything, the gypsies didn't go far enough
KEK this is just like that old Richard Pryor movieLMFAOhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHANLC9JtWI
>>537406871In part it's a matter of old buildings. Many city rental flats are of postwar vintage, and consequently don't come with modern equipment, like a tailor made firmly mounted kitchen furniture, but use simple modular units on a PVC floor, and there's no network cables or sockets or anything beyond the basic light switches, electric sockets and connectors for water/sewage.But at least the toilet, shower or bathtub tends to stay in place.>sometimes for many decadesOccasionally you still encounter showers that are just tiled walls with a faucet and little tub, like in a prison.With newer buildings advanced permanent fittings are more common, and also when renting an entire house.
>>537407240>>537408344Actually yeah, he's right, often there's an option to buy the stuff left behind by the prior tenant, and it can be a good deal.
Where does it say they were Ukrainians? Sounds like gypsy or jeet or russian behavior. This is just yet another rusnigger disinformation thread.
>>537399758>She lives in one half herself,>live in half of house>rent out other half>fail to notice family stripping other half bare What
>>537409606Leben und leben lassen.
>>537409208Isnt it great when the JC never questions the costs of browns but when a German needs something they scan for every cent.I agree she deserved it but honest renters may also fall prey so I hope some african crackhead stabbes the gypsys.
>>537408344I know right.But its just, your kitchen may be brand new and that in the new place is a 25yo junker used by some alcoholic, so ofcourse you rather take yours.Because dont forget if the new guy doesnt want your shit, its on you to bare the cost of getting rid of it.
>>537399758Without any bias, are Ukrainans euro adjutant? Poles seem to have bad experiences with them from what Ive seen on 4chan.Im asking because the Ukrainans Ive met in Sweden seem fine
>>537409776Lass mich raten, die weiße Familie hatt sie abgelehnt weil sonst kann man die Miet nicht so hoch schrauben.Aber ja, wird sicher lustig es der Versicherung zu beweisen dass man nichts bemerkt hat.
>>537409208Yeah, it sounded awfully much. I would have estimated 1200-1400 for that at most
>>537410169Ukis were arrogant in Krautland at first because Krauts are so dumb and streight away gave them full gibs + extras.But in the end it depands on the people, the family with young kids may be ok, the young 20 something guys are usually assholes.DINK coupels are the worst.
>>537400039thisfather and sons should've been in ukraine helping zelensky anyways
>>537410222And that pneumatic hammer noise? Surely they're just having super violent sex or something.It does sound kinda scammy for sure. Won't be surprised she has insurance for this sort of thing and half the stuff that was stolen either didn't exist or was trash, to top up that sweet sweet Arbeitsamt handouts with a big insurance payout.>then just barely repair the unit in the cheapest possible way and go on holiday to Spain for a month
>>537411966Jobcenter.Arbeitsamt zahlt nicht, die müssen sich von der Kohle selbst erhalten.
>>537399758Haha fuck landlords!
>>537399758>>537399940
>>537413139I'm just old. Sozialhilfe? Bürgergeld? Hilfe zum Lebensunterhalt? I'm not sure they know themselves whatever it currently happens to be called.
>>537413328Arbeitsamt: wenn du gekündigt wurderest für 1 Jahr, du musst dich 3 Monate vorher melden, zahlen ca 60% deines lezten Gehalts.Job Center: Für Arbeitsfähige die länger als 1 Jahre raus sind, zahlen ca 470€ standart satz + miete + Heizkosten. Nevern dich mit bullshit bis du Arbeitest. (hartz 4, Bürgergeld, Grundsicherung, kann verwirren da ein ähnlicher name vom Sozialamt verwendet wird.)Sozialamt, alles was nicht in Jobcent fällt, bezahlung noch weniger.Dies ist mein letzter StandAlso Arbeitsamt heisst nun "Agentur für Arbeit" ein Name den kein Schwein Benutzt.
>>537399758>SchellNot so fun when the shoe's on the other nose, huh?
>>537414114>Arbeitsamt: wenn du gekündigt wurderest für 1 Jahr, du musst dich 3 Monate vorher melden, zahlen ca 60% deines lezten Gehalts.crucial this one is just a mandatory (national) insuranceyou pay this directly and explicitly from your salary>Job Center: Für Arbeitsfähige die länger als 1 Jahre raus sind, zahlen ca 470€ standart satz + miete + Heizkosten. Nevern dich mit bullshit bis du Arbeitestand this one is paid by the general taxesyou can't really abuse the first one (besides irrelevant edge cases)but you can abuse the second one
>>537399758not my problemfuck all landlords
>>537414577You can abuse the 2nd one if you are brown AND reatarded and the guys in the JC office dontdare question you.If you show them that you can speak 2 coherant setntences (in german) they will squeeze you.
>>537399758>She lives in one half herself, and in early 2025 she rented out the other half to a Ukrainian family with six children.HAHA HAHAHAHAso she lives RIGHT NEXT DOORand didnt notice that the other half of the house was being deconstructed ???HAHAHAHAHA GO FUCK YOURSELF L M A OSEGA MEGADRIVE > NINTENGO GAME
