https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-closes-strait-hormuz-over-ceasefire-violations-mehr-2026-06-20/
>>537459271It's all part of the 4-D chess strategy.
>>537459271That was Iran's last chance to avoid complete annihilation,....right ?
>>537459928Trump has already threatened maximum destruction at least 3 times and cucked out.It's unlikely that anything is going to happen, they'll just try to get out of the war again with more concessions
>>537459271i'm okay with this.we just roll back into a blockade and they lose lots of money every day again.eventually, they'll be back to tapping out and we can help them understand that they can't win.surrender is their only option.
>>537460589that's because it's the expensive option.blockades are much more cost effective.every single day under a blockade their quality of life drops.every single day.
>>537459271I hope J.D. will find the right words. picrel as inspiration.
>>537461059The problem is that Trump has demonstrated that the U.S cares more about the strait being open.Just look at how much Iran got in the deal for just opening it, which also benefits Iran to open it
>>537459271Iran should pay Donald Trump.
>>537459271btw it takes up to 60 days to get any oil that's stuck in the gulf to be usable.
>>537461230so?>uh, that's like, leverage, man.their economy is fucking nose-diving.people here complain about the price of gas going up a nickle or something, but if the blockade goes back into effect a bunch of iranans are going to have to start making some hard choices about how to feed their families.obviously we want the straight open, but that doesn't give them anything.we just put the blockade back and watch them run out of resources like yeast in a beer.
>>537461452You're making an assumption that their economy is the main concern for Iran.Their actual concern is nuclear deterrence, they believe that if they don't have it then Israel will nuke them off the planet.Temporary hardship is preferable.That's why Trump is desperately trying to make a deal happen with increasing concessions every time
>>537461430Good since the strait of Hormuz was never blocked between late february and today; many oil carrier and other ships sailed across the strait.Simple as this; the IRGC simply couldn't blockade it because the US Navy was deployed and they also couldn't deploy a fleet to screen the strait.
>>537459271>we need to have a reconstruction>it will be the greatest and biggest reconstruction you have ever seen>there will be so much reconstruction you wont know how to contstruct anymoreis this how northerner niggers cope daily that they actually contribute to fucking civ?what a bunch of retards you know.. india's cars are getting destroyed without real fuel. oh how are they ggiong to deal with it after that? maybe electric? Maybe idk. But i bet it has to do with bettween the 2. new remote controlled cars - reconstruction. etc.ours too. heard junkyards are burning down. more surveilllance. destroy the working shit. put in chinese bugged piles of shit. idk everyone riding bicycles everywhere or something
Why are Americans afraid of a ground war? They have the greatest ally Israel to help them
>>537459928>*crashes during takeoff*
>>537461630>You're making an assumption that their economy is the main concern for Iran.if it's not their main concern at this point, then they're retarded, lol.reinstating the blockade means two things:1) the quality of life for the average iranian goes down and continues to deteriorate2) america, and the world, gets closer to having to use overwhelming force (i imagine nothing would be left off the table).the fact is, we CAN'T let the strategic oil reserves get too low. everyone knows this. so, our only other option is to use force to gain compliance; accusations of warcrimes be damned.there is some tolerance threshold beyond which that shit isn't going to matter.the iranians have miscalculated in thinking that america draining the strategic reserves was to their advantage; i assure you that long before that happens we are going to be incentivized to use every millitary tool at our disposal to transport them to the stone age.one way or another they're going to do what we want.>but, muh russia! muh mountains!i assure you that iran has never faced an adversary like America. they should concern themselves less with nuclear arms and more with being able to make bread.
>>537459271Looks open to me,https://www.marinevesseltraffic.com/HORMUZ%20STRAIT/ship-traffic-tracker#gotomap
>>537461630Right, nuclear deterrence for their regime is far more important than food.You are a nigger, right?
Lol then that time trump told Iran we were 30 days away from depleting our entire countries oil reserves.
>>537462164>if it's not their main concern at this point, then they're retarded, lol.You're not engaging with the substance.It's perfectly rational to prefer hardship over nuclear annihilation.>>537462239Yes temporary hardship is better than nuclear annihilation
>>537462239worked for north korea
I heard there's a possible new deal materializing in a few weeks
I am sure they will keep it closes this time and won't come back to the table begging for another deal after Trump slaps their shit again.
Trump will send seal team six to take out Bibi if it gets the strait open before marker open Monday. Iran has figured out how we works, Trump is literally a slave to Monday morning market opening.
>>537462283we're not talking about "hardship".i'm going to be frank.we're talking about either iran complying or we're going to turn off the tap.no potable water in iran.the world cannot afford to let iranians, or anyone else, control the straight.if this goes on much longer we're going to destroy electrical infrastructure and water infrastructure and the rest of the world is going to look the other way.the only things on the table are compliance or desolation.playtime is over.
>>537462465You're still not engaging with the premise.If Iran believes that lacking a nuclear deterrent creates a credible risk of regime destruction or nuclear attack, then even extreme economic hardship may be preferable.Saying "we'll destroy their infrastructure" doesn't address that. It just changes the severity of the cost. The question is whether they view that cost as worse than the outcome they're trying to prevent.
>>537459271Huge mistake by Iran. Rumors in Washington are that Trump has already convened a military council to prepare one of the longest tweets in American history.
Bomb the fuck out of these retards every time they do this. Kill 10% of their leadership every time and they'll stop this shit real fast. Diplomacy was tried. It won't work. They're retards. The only diplomacy Muslims and Communists understand is strength and they misinterpret you not killing them as them being too strong to kill.
>>537462710Trump has already threatened maximal destruction multiple times and not followed through.It's unlikely he's willing to pay the cost of such an attack, as he opts over and over for a deal with more and more concessions
>>537459271i wish Trump would leave Israel to fend for themselves after being this disrespectful towards USA. the blackmail can't be that bad.
>>537459271>Trump deal failsoh wow, who could have possibly seen that coming
>>537462905Money is a better explanation than theoretical blackmail.Trump has gotten hundreds of millions from aipac
>>537462164no one is going to die for Israel, schlomoAmericans would rather this fake and gay economy collapse than WOT2 Electric Boogaloo
>>537463292no, i don't think money would move him like this. first of all 100s of millions is cheap for trump, but mainly if he was bought he wouldn't be as negative/fatigued towards jews as he has been lately in interviews.
>>537459928You understand that Israel violated the ceasefire, set the negotiating back 2 months. You think Trump’s going to bomb Iran after Israel has embarrassed him on a global stage!l? He and JD either nut up now or we accept we are occupied. There’s no blow off valve available Mr. president.
>Maniacal kikes keep bombing cities>deal is off>Trump: It's Iran fault!Im tired of this circus. Back in the day international conflicts were led by strong men not these clowns who fear blackmail over some child porn videos
>>537462652>You're still not engaging with the premise.i am, actually.you're choosing to ignore the elephant in the room: iran can't develop nuclear weapons without electricity and water.they can't have people without electricity and water.they played a good game, and that's nice, but at the end of the day they're going to do what we want or they're not going to do anything at all.
>>537463448...who do you think would be dying for israel?american lives are not at risk when we change our strategic targets from leadership to infrastructure.a lot of iranians are going to suffer if their leaders don't pull their heads out of their asses.
Devils AdvocateI think Iran and Hezbollah are deliberately doing shit to try and provoke Israel into retaliation so that the US/Israel relations collapse
>>537461452>their economy is fucking nose-diving.kek, the kike lie that's being repeated over and over again(You), the American people, Trump and USA are the ones that are DESPERATE that the strait opens up and remains openit's your reserve currency status that hangs on the line. Trump said it himself, (You) are 4 weeks away from running out of oil.when all those strategic reserves deplete, total and complete chaos is ensured on global markets and (You), Mutts are on the verge of losing control of global finances. when (not if) that happens, your standard of living will drop 80%.so, no, Iran isn't desperate, they've been under sanctions for 40 years, they can go through hardship for a couple of years. (You) on the other hand will not last months.>>537462164>to the stone agekekif you could, Trump would have already done it
>>537464058I think you're a total fucking moron and the kike rats should scurry out of lebanon
TOTALZIONISTDEFEATSOON
>>537461059No it doesn't. You know they just run trade through us right? Go see what's happening at the Balochistan border lol
>>537464058and I think your a glownigger
>>537464058Probably not devil's advocate unless they're actually going for Israeli/US decoupling which idk if they wantHonestly I'm wondering if any Iranian gubbment people saw how the administration was fixing the markets literally every Sunday evening and were like why can't we get in on this? They are the MASTERS of proxying shit, why can't they proxy some money moves on the stock market eventually getting it back into Iran? Fwiw I don't think it's collaborative at least, I dont think the jews would threaten their profits like that
>>537462164No you aren't. We'll hand them nukes and then what are you going to do?
iran wont do shit they are too scared to strike Israel
>>537464510Yeah, because you keep covering their kosher asses
>trump peace deal fails for the exact same reason all the other peace deals failedwow im shocked bros who could have seen this one coming? when is king migger gonna realize he's not in control?
>>537462465Your boss is a weak pussy faggot who only cares about the grift. He's just pumping his bags while dumping on everyone else. The US is impotent. Trump is symbolic of that impotency. Playtime is over. America loses.
>>537464332>(You), the American people, Trump and USA are the ones that are DESPERATE that the strait opens up and remains openone one hand, not immediately, on the other hand, it's not just America that want's the straight open, but the rest of the world, too.it's the rest of the world part that they need to start worrying about.as the rest of the world becomes more frustrated with the current situation, America will be less concerned with how actions are percieved.>if you could, Trump would have already done itno. if you look at the actions we have taken thus far we you will see that we've been trying to achieve our goals with as little impact on the average iranian as possible--it's not their fault their government sucks.first, we killed their leadership. that didn't gain compliance, so we moved on to blockades.this inconveniences the average iranian, but greatly costs the higher ups.as our strategic reserves run dry we will care less and less about the average iranian and more and more compliance.targeting their infrastructure is a winning move with a terrible cost to the average iranian.we don't want to do it, but as the entire world becomes tired of this situation, it becomes a viable tool to gain compliance.
>>537463292>Trump has gotten hundreds of millions from aipacIf it was merely "money" Trump would already cut them off because it is far more unprofitable for his family business to continue this war into a global economic crisis of the likes we've never seen before than to keep bending knee for the jews. There is some blackmail involved.
>>537464450>they just run trade through us.yes, i'm sure it's at the same volume and you're not heavily taking advantage of their current situation.right now iran is a fractured state,and the trade through you is shifting the scales of power inside iran.if the people in power right now won't listen to reason, maybe the next ones will.
>>537464496>We'll hand them nukes and then what are you going to do?lol.lmao, even.
>>537464367whyHezbollah have been scoring some very tasty hits on the IDF, especially in the last weekIran is clearly enjoying flexingThe longer the closures go on the more leverage Iran getsTrump isnt bothering to hide how pissed off he is with Netanyahu, the blame for this is going to land on IsraelLets be honest, if Israel say Hezbollah start shit down the line, no-one is going to believe themThis is going to go on and on and on and the relationship between US and Israel is going to get worse, Bibi cant retreatI dont see a down side for either Iran or Hezbollah at the moment
>>537464888No it's not at the same volume obviously but something is better than nothing and at the end of the day we make shekels too. >heavily taking advantage Nah you don't know paki culture you don't kick someone who is down bad. >>537464910Gave them to n Korea no one did shit. We can do it again.
>>537463915If someone believes jumping out of the building is certain death, threatening to break their legs if they stay inside doesn't necessarily make them jump>>537464858It's extremely profitable for Trump, being able to control the market with a tweet is not trivial
>>537464772If we had the balls to attack Iran more directly, then Iran is going to start taking out vital infrastructure in the gulf states. There will be no more water in Saudi. They may even attack Mecca. If Trump attacks, WW3. If Trump doesn't attack, Israel will keep bombing, but will eventually lose. Iran will become dominate in the region, the Saudis will cuck, Europe will collapse, and America will become a backwater for the global East to colonize. The world is reorienting toward Persia and China, and Trump just handed it to them on a platter.
>>537464488>unless they're actually going for Israeli/US decoupling which idk if they wantIts exactly what they want and its closer at this point in history since the last US president (reagan I think) started stopping funding until they got out of Lebanon
>>537465019it is clear that you have no idea what you are talking about.you dodged the part about us being aware of the trades and the resulting power shifts that are going on inside iran because of them.>we just hand out nukes like candysure you do.you didn't give them nukes, you gave them a scientist who knew how to make them the pakistani way.in exchange for missiles.
>>537465039>It's extremely profitable for TrumpTill it isn't, if this goes on for another month the negatives will heavily outweigh the positives for Trump. His other billionaire friends are getting pissy and scare with him already and he got bunch of countries calling and bitching all the time, he is running out of time.
Yeah I already posted this, slowpoke.
>>537465071>If we had the balls to attack Iran more directly, then Iran is going to start taking out vital infrastructure in the gulf states.that would be a grave mistake.imagine what would be on the table if even the libshits got on board with doing whatever it takes to stop the terrorists.remember 9/11?everything was on the table and not a fucking soul objected to it at the time.right now calling iran a "terrorist state" is a buzz word to libshits.making a reality, and you get a combination of zero resistance from the left and the American war machine actually spinning up.all-around terrible idea.
>>537465170>you gave them a scientist who knew how to make them the pakistani way.Obviously. Iran is way closer to us than the Koreans. We share history, culture and language with them, and to an extent religion and a common enemy. Have a look at how the Irani and paki leaders are having such a gay old time when they meet. America fucked up by cucking out and now any U-turn will make trump look weaker. Pretty funny for me personally because petrol got cheaper today and I got all the cars filled. That's what winning looks like boy
>>537465459your lack of understanding of the current geopolitical picture is expected.as nothing you are saying is germane,i'm going to stop talking to you.have a nice day.
>>537462239Iran is almost self sufficient in rice and wheat, which are the main staple grains.Nuclear deterrence is, unironically, more important than food. Given the foreign political environment Iran is in, without deterrence, everyone dies.
>>537465952but, anon, how can you grow rice and wheat without water?it's time for them to realize the actual situation.
>>537465206>Till it isn'tAnd then he will re-evaluate it.>>537466024I noticed you stopped responding, did you realize I was correct?
this was has been stuck in a time loop of the same news happening every 2-3 days over and over again for months
>>537465952Iran isn't self-sufficient in anything other than oil, they have limited fresh water supply and need to import around 1/3rd of their food. Even in terms of wheat and staple crops it's not fully sufficient internally. Also medically they're not sufficient seeing as how they needed to send the Ayatollah's son to Russia for intensive care. They also rely on machinery imports, the greatest fear of this war isn't that Iran itself is a threat but the war forces them into greater dependencies with countries like Russia.
>>537459271Migger humiliation never ceases.
>>537463604You're treating blackmail as the default explanation and requiring the financial explanation to clear additional hurdles. Why?
>>537460964The US has 4 weeks left of oil reserves. I know this because Trump said it in his infinite wisdom.They're blockading to get a better deal because they know they have the world's balls in a vice.
>>537468865because trump was already super rich and he is at his end of life, considering his ego leaving a legacy is more important than additional wealth. besides he is obtaining additional wealth through other means anyway, like crypto and stocks. if trump isn't being blackmailed directly he is protecting others that the jews have dirt on either due to friendship or because he knows it would damage USA if the truth came out.
>>537469962>because trump was already super rich and he is at his end of lifeYet he's actively trading and making hundreds of millions. His behavior suggests the financial motive can't be discounted as easily as you prefer
>>537470230honestly it's such a childish take to think something like this is just about money. the thing trump's family has infinite amounts of. i hope you're on a vpn.
>>537470428You're treating financial incentives as obviously impossible and blackmail as obviously true, but you haven't explained why.What's the evidence that specifically favors blackmail?
