Why people say that they feel amazing high after oxycodone morprhine fentanyl? My mother died of cancer and i took her morphine and oxycodone many Times, i didint feel any mindblowing high etc. Ofcourse i felt something but it was not as they described it. I expected more to be honest. And my back pain lowered but i could still feel it. I really liked them. I even took very high doses and i just sleep very long after they wear out. Then i thought if 80 mg of oxycodone cant help my back pain disc, they what the fuck can i do? There is nothing stronger to function normal. My mother said the same there is no high like in the movies or something its all bullshit i don’t understand people it gave them extasy or euphoria wtf. And in Pharmacy when i bought it they handled it like nuclear material checking milion times. I Think it should be without perscription anyway
>>537501854It’s gay because hillbillies in places like Florida have to be animals and consume everything to excess. Food, alcohol, drugs, gambling and sportsball. Everyone has to be punished and kept from a good pain medicine because every grandmother and fat chud in the US pops pills like candy because of Purdue and greedy doctors 25 years ago.
>>537501854I take it because it helps with the painOxy isnt addictive because of "le heckin high!!!!" Narrative that kikes push. Its good because it stops my nerve pain. But jews want me to be in pain and shame me and others for taking it
>>537501854>I think it should be without perscription anywayMajeck, just acknowledge that you are a dope fiend
>>537501854For pills, you have to take them for awhile before you can really get the euphoria effect
>>537502087>Scared of drugsThis is why Inga is shagging Abdullah, Sven.
>>537501854Opioids don't work for some people. It's not that common but it's a real thing. People who get addicted enjoy the brain chemistry altering parts it's not about getting high although that's the immediate side effect of it.These are satan's tool, just stay away.
>>537501854Heroin gives you that high you're talking about. No one should ever do it more than once though, if even that.>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=74bduWYz3cM
>>537501854I got percocets when they took my wisdom teeth out. They make you feel really comfy but also kinda like you can't breathe. It's like a scary cozy thing.
>>537502909Yea that probably best description
>>537501854 Because you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to snort it or shoot it up. You can't do that with the new 80s. If you did it correctly you'd feel complete peace and contentment like you never have before and then you have to try to live life knowing you could go to heaven with a little like of powder. Opiates take a few times to understand, the first few times your brain doesn't know how to process it or something. Then one day you try it again and you're like holy shit I can't live without this. Just don't do it if you don't need it, don't be a retard.
>>537503121A junkie preaching moderation.Follow your own advice.
>>537503399I haven't touched them for over a decade retard. He asked a question and I answered it.
>>537502741I have two friends who tried heroin once (this was before fentanyl existed). They said it was awful and terrifying, the worst experience of their lives. They just lay on the floor for hours, paralyzed, feeling like they were going to die.
>>537504068Probably ADHD? I have it and I know a few friends/coworkers as well, and opiods don't do shit. Uppers are highly, highly addicting for us though.
>>537503121I once mixed codeine and beer. It just intensified my alcohol buzz. I laughed my ass off for hours and ran around doing stupid shit. When I woke up the next morning, my jaw and sides were sore from laughing so hard for 8 hours straight.
>>537504155One of those friends did later go on to use lots of meth. She stopped before she became addicted to it and now just smokes weed all the time.
>>537504237Is she a smoker/vapes and drinks lots of coffee or caffeine? If yes then there's the answer.
>>537504068>>537504155Can confirm, I have adhd and I get zero side effects.I DID get massively constipated for a week when I was in hospital for a few months, but even that went away fast
When we got high in the 80s we got high on just about anything because everyone was partying all the time. What I never did was anything with a needle or heroin because in 6th grade they showed this really graphic video of a lady having withdrawals and throwing up everywhere and screaming. I couldn't eat my fucking lunch. Got offered to me plenty, no thanks. Nope. Two people I knew that used needles with meth long after I left the game, they are dead now from liver disease. Seemed like normal people, one in the medical field and another just a pretty regular guy. They should have watched that video in a dark classroom right before lunch in 6th grade.
>>537502909Same. I never felt like i couldnt breathe though. Its like a big warm hug. When i got my wisdoms pulled in HS i literally sat in math class taking notes and loving every second of it
>>537501854You need to take more oxy. Opiates are the best perfect drug all they do is give you euphoria and make you feel good.
>>537501854It's because they inject or smoke it.It hits much harder and is basically on a different level. It hits the brain in high quantities in seconds. Like how snorted cocaine is nowhere near smoking crack cocaine. Or eating an adderall pill is nowhere near smoking meth from a pipe. If you could smoke an Adderall pill it would feel like meth. It would hit hard and fast with a huge rush like meth from a pipe. Eating meth in a tablet form feels almost indistinguishable from Adderall. This has been studied in blind testing in animals and humans. Physical and psychological parameters are almost the same between Adderall and meth taken in the same format. But laypeople say that meth is hardcore evil and nothing like Adderall, even though both drugs do essentially same things in the brain, just meth is usually smoked which turns it into a more intense crazier drug than popping an Adderall pill which takes an hour to kick in and the peak is muted.
>>537504296She's not a heavy tobacco smoker. She smokes weed all day though. She's not a big coffee drinker, either. Weed seems to be what she really loves. Me, I don't like weed. It just makes me muddleheaded and paranoid. I used to drink a lot, now I hardly drink at all. I'm not really interested in drugs of any kind anymore.
Tried low dose codeine once. Had a mild 'comfy' sort of sedation but nothing to shout about. Higher doses aren't worth the constipation.
>Then i thought if 80 mg of oxycodone cant help my back pain disc, they what the fuck can i do? Roping it would be an option>I Think it should be without perscription anywaythere's a literal opiate crisis brewing in europe but if this guy doesn't feel anything on some polish generica surely nobody else does too
Downers suck. Cathinones are where it's at. Rock on.
>>537504068>be amerimutt nigger>get impure shit laced with PCP and rat poison>WHY ISN'T IT WORKING AS INTENDEDwhat those niggers got was certainly not "heroin"
>>537503121They just make me nauseous. I’ve had morphine after surgery and it’s whatever.
they gave me hydromorphone in the ICU after brain surgeryit was like being wrapped in sunshinefent was fucking disgusting and made me throw up all night and feel like I was going to diethen the next day back on hydromorphone sitting on a cloud all day watching family feud laughing my fucking ass offthey got so angry when I laughed>STOP LAUGHING YOUR GOING TO LEAKI was so fucked up and that's the good stuff.
>>537502175What? I got blasted the first time I took OCs. That shit was wicked. Not my cup of tea tho.
>>537505106>be German >buy drugs from a Tunisian in a park >your country is nowhere near where the good drugs are made in South America >smoke drugs made in a bathtub in some sand niggers trap house in Morocco>we do smoke sand nigger ass water in Germany
>>537504794Everyone has their own drug career and then it's over. Except for some.
>>537505106One of them shot up in Spain.
>>537501854yeah oxys suck. fent is ok but it makes you super zoned out. when I was in the hospital they were pumping dilauded directly into my heart, that's the ticket right there
>>537502175That's not true at all, actually quite the opposite, the best highs are the first couple of highs when your brain isn't used to the effect. Op, you have time-release Oxy, that will blunt your high. You also shouldn't be taking them for "your back pain" or whatever other bs excuse you need in order to take them. They are useful for a couple of days post operation or maybe in cases such as cancer (my condolences, op). You shouldn't be taking them at all or you won't just be a dude with backpain, you will be a junkie with back pain. Just throw them in the trash, or or give them to a pharmacy, they will destroy them.
Had a shot of Demerol (meperidine) in the hospital. It felt like living in a dream. Shit's nuts yo.
>>537501854benzos ain't mindblowing either. The issue is with taking it for prolonged periods of time and then trying ot get off. You feel like your new normal is on benzos and off you feel like shit
It doesn't do something for everybody.
I dunno I got pretty blasted off oxycodone for a few weeks. then after that it was barely better than a Tylenol 3. those first few days it felt like god giving me a big hug with a warm pillow
>>537504155>Uppers are highly, highly addicting for us though.i've heard the complete opposite thing, loland I do have ADHD, do take "uppers" and I don't feel addicted at all. Truthfully I don't like taking them, because then I feel obligated to do shit.
>>537505670>Had a shot of Demerol (meperidine) in the hospitalSame here. All it did was knock me out, but not completely. The oral surgeon still had to zap me with nitrous, and even then I kept waking up.
>>537505689Reminds me of a certain someone.
>>537504792>>537503121Ehat you are saying is a tital bs. All it changes is a higher dopamine release which aggrevates the addiction. Good feel during the whole period of being high is still the same. Junkies brain doesn't chase that high, it chases that dopamibe release, which isn't even a pleasure. And they they lie to themselves that it feels better this way, when they are just junkies chading dopamine.
>>537505689the alcohol abuse that goes along with it is the big problemit turns into a different animal
>>537501854Morphine Hydroxide cannot get you 'high', it will kill pain well, but you won't feel any of the Warm, Fuzzy, good mood that Oxycodone and sunshine will give you (To be honest the sunshine is like half the fuzzy feeling) What I don't understand is people getting addicted to Fent, because although it kills pain its what I describe as a DIRTY feeling that is not good, not warm, not fuzzy, its the same feeling you'd get doing Saboxone, or Krantom. I think everything should be legal and OTC, because I can stop anytime I want. I have no problem understanding that the high is over and going about my life without doing drugs till the next blue moon, or weekend, I can even quit smoking on command, until I feel like picking the habit up again often years later. No taper, no gum, no drugs to help me, because Nicotene isn't addictive, its the additives that the government mandates be in them that is habit forming.
>>537505689Full disclosure, I didn't really have a lot of experience with benzos, but recently I had a very bad couple of months mostly personal shit combined with loads of panic attacks, sleeplessness etc. I have pretty fine tuned antennas and I'm prone to this shit, especially if I don't get enough sleep and my environment is causing me stress all the time. Usually I'm very critical of any pills and I do my research, in this case I stupidly ignored the long term consequences in order to get a supposed short term benefit and I took Diazepam for about six weeks straight. It was only 10mg in the evening, but it was enough to get my brain hooked. When I realized I was hooked, I yeeted the pack I had and raw-dogged the withdrawal from hundred to zero. I knew it would be very uncomfortable but I didn't want to taper that shit, I was disgusted with myself. Worst withdrawal ever, all your senses are turned up x10, sleepless nights, constant anxiety and irritability. My advice is to not take these benzo devil pills, not even once. They also stay in your body for a surprisingly long time, they accumulate in your fat, you need weeks to be completely clean again. I can easily see how people get hooked for life simply because the withdrawal is so terrible. It's best to stay away from everything if you can't control yourself (which many, if not most people can't). Smoke the occasional joint if you have to, drink a drink every once in a while if you want to, but take nothing as a crutch. There are no external solutions for internal problems (mental or physical) in my opinion.
>>537501854hey i buy the same brand on the darknet. do you sell these?
Things ive tried and the results, i also have ADHDFentanyl - felt like cream was in my brain and coudnt speak coherently, fun with friends.LSD - Took it with friends and had the best day in my life, felt like a child experiencing everything for the first time again. Coke - speeded, great it you want to talk/dance and need energy.Weed - dude lmao, fun to jerk off onAmfetamine - not even once, fun at first but got flashbacks when i was a child on my ADHD medication, coudnt sleep and just wanted it to end.Started trying drugs 2 years ago bc new friends and i can see why people get addicted to this shit. Heard people with ADHD have a higher chance to get addicted as well, but i belive in trying almost everything once.
>>537502175what about crushing and snorting them? thought thats a good way to get around the extended release crap.
>>537506493>I think everything should be legal and OTC, because I can stop anytime I want. I have no problem understanding that the high is over and going about my life without doing drugs till the next blue moon, or weekend, I can even quit smoking on command, until I feel like picking the habit up again often years later. No taper, no gum, no drugs to help me, because Nicotene isn't addictive, its the additives that the government mandates be in them that is habit forming.I'm the same as you in the sense that I can just say "I won't take xyz anymore, finito" and then I just won't take it, end of story. I just say "I identify as a non-smoker now" for example, end of story. Any sort of withdrawal or imbalances are temporary and get raw-dogged until they subside. Problem is, most people aren't like that, most people will got through a surprising amount of bs and self-degredation in order to get their fix. As for the "everything should be OTC" I agree on principle, but it's not that easy in practice. I couldn't give you a definite yes or no answer to that statement.
>>537506533>I knew it would be very uncomfortable but I didn't want to taper that shitIt can give you seizures and make you die. Although idk at what level of addiction this happen. Probably taking for way longer and more than what you tookI only took benzos only once, just to see what they do. I got them prescribed for anxiety. I felt a buzz like from alcohol and there I knew it would be dangerous to take that shit often.
>>537501854You need to have sex with girls like Sydney sweeney or Zendaya to feel the real opioid effect. Every MR knows that.
>>537506493>I think everything should be legal and OTC, because I can stopyeah, you're retarded
>>537501854I think that's when you INJECT it. If you take it orally, it just makes you feel good and comfy but no rush or ecstasy or whatever like in the stupid movies
>>537502741No it doesn't. I smoked it once and I felt a slow drift into unconsciousness then slept very well for like 12 hours straight. There was no high or rush
>>537501854>i took her morphine and oxycodone many Times, i didint feel any mindblowing high etcbecause you are a braindead polish retard, andrzej. NPCs dont feel pleasure.
>>537507193Of course I knew that, I informed myself. But I also knew that it was highly unlikely after six weeks with a steady dose. I would have called a doctor family friend to help me taper if push came to shove, but thankfully it wasn't necessary. I actually wanted to feel very uncomfortable in order to punish myself for my stupidity and my atypical behavior and weakness when it comes to taking stuff as a crutch so I remember the lesson. Pain and discomfort are very strong teachers, there's a reason we feel those feelings, it gives us a signal to change things, not to mask or numb the problem. I know I sound like a preaching fag, I don't really care, the topic is too important.
>>537507611>But I also knew that it was highly unlikely after six weeks with a steady dose.yeah, going cold turkey was probably the best solution then. With tapering you probably would feel tempted to stay on lower dose. Did anyone quite alcohol by tapering? I've never heard that. The success stories i've heard were always "I stopped drinking and never touched it again"
>>537501854national flower of your country is fucking red papaver, fucking disgrace, grow some poppies and stop sucking on the petrochemical tit
>>537507696kurwa taking jay pills made with btx benzene/toluene/xylene coproducts fracked off from persian medium sour crude; motherfuckers acting like we didn't drink poppy pod tea for 1000+ years before the post-war good time goyim petrochemical pill mill oligopolies modern history is thinner than a piece of paper yet we act like its priors and assumptions are ancient and accepted
Withdrawing from fent analogue haven’t slept in 48 hours even though I get a daily small dose of suboxoneChrist it was worth it to try heroin a few times but other than that not worth the agony of getting back to feeling normal if that’s even a possibility anymore.It’s a waking nightmare. Life sucks in pain but there’s no way to sustain taking opis for everyday pain or sleep, crazy expensive.
>>537508073>flagyou were definitely warned about all that shit>but it won’t happen to meit did, thanks for playing
>>537508185Yeah I know, I thought I was super tough cold turkey any day kinda guy but god damn this is brutal.Zenes were the shit though & im so glad I got to try most of them, but this recent week or so long splurge on shitty fentalogue has me nearly hallucinating from sleep depDon’t do opis ya retards don’t be like me
>>537507983taking drugs doesn't make you look tough, idiot
It ain’t worth it anons. Imagine every square inch of skin being constantly goose bumped but in a way that feels like spicy uncomfortableness no matter what you do. Every hair follicle feels like a little needle being dragged across your body.Everything to warm & yet too cold at the same time, several days without sleep or any relief..All I can do is chug down water to try and piss this shit out of me faster, day three or four of getting off fent & I still can’t sleep. Looking forward to my suboxone in 4 hours when the pharmacy opens but somehow I doubt it will let me sleep
>>537508355you're a slave inside and out, an absolute disgrace to your ancestors or you are brown
>>537501854Ive tried oxycodine before for injuries I swear it does jack shit. A person must have a genetic predisposition to getting hooked to this junk
>>537508794what do you know, junkie, lmaoI'm high on my masculinity
>>537508939street shitter
>>537501854Nothing compares to the feeling of IV opiates, but opium itself is just good shit. When I was in Afghanistan, we would frequently find ourselves in poppy fields. You could just take your gloves off, grab a bulb and squish it in your hands. You'd get high as fuck. The Afghan police also were constantly drinking opium tea. Sit down in the evening as those dudes are serving tea and you might not be able to stand up again an hour later kek
>>537509073I'm white
>>537509275that juggling between high alert state and being high of your mind on opioids was probably worse for you than if you were just under fire all the time
>>537508511So you want to exchange one opioid crutch for the next, great job. I had to take all kinds of shit due to a severe accident with multiple complicated fractures, I've mentioned it here once or twice over the years. Just tough it out. It's not an eternity, embrace the week or two of severe discomfort, embrace the month of two until you feel halfway normal again. What's a couple of weeks in the grand scheme of things? You also don't feel like that all the fucking time, it comes and goes in waves. It's uncomfortable, yes, but it's uncomfortable for a couple of minutes at a time, not 24/7. It's also not "someone stuck a hot poker in my asshole uncomfortable, it's more like a moderate to heavy flu, and we all had the flu and survived it, didn't we? Be a big boy and don't let that time and life thief ride you like a bitch.
>>537508859Same, I broke my leg, they did nothing so stopped taking them, months later I strained my back, tried 'em again, nothing happened. Third time I was just bored one afternoon and had to stay around for hourse waiting to sign for a package so I took the pills again and nothing happened.OTOH years before this I fell and my back was messed up for 3-4 days, and my buddy brewed up some opium poppy pod tea for me and that seemed to work nearly instantly, stopped the pain, but didn't have any sort of other intoxicating effects. If you could legally grow such an effective painkiller in your yard, the Sacklers wouldn't have made a single dime so I can see why our government made that illegal.
>>537509369Maybe, maybe not. My war wasn't e.g. crossing the airfield at Peleliu or storming the beaches at Normandy. We got into some shit, and yeah, my limbic system is permanently fucking haywire, but you have to imagine that the dudes who did four, five, six months of literally constant combat probably had it worse. I mean fuck, even the partisans in Poland probably had it worse than we did. The brain is a weird creature, though.
>>537509433Well yes it’s monkey branching to a free pharma opi - better than full cold turkey. But it does mean the withdrawal will be prolonged.I’m taking a very small dose of suboxone daily but plan to get off that by the end of this month.You are right though just bare with the sickness - I’ve had worse flu’s. This withdrawal is constant though there is no escaping the uncomfortable, not even for a few minutes. 48 hours of sleep deprivation, it sucks.It’s gonna be a shitty last week of JuneBut yeah what’s a couple weeks of suffering, builds character!
>>537509593>probablyimagine hiding in the forest for years, with no steady supplies and locals being afraid to help, because if that was discovered their whole family would be burned alive. That's not even in the same realm of stress than btfo-ing some ragheads every other week. But that aside, I really do think that jumping from that state of feeling really safe to fearing for your life might be worse than just fear alone.
>>537502048>Its good because it stops my nerve pain. But jews want me to be in pain and shame me and others for taking itcorrect, but not just jews, the normie asshole hate if someone else gets something they can't have, even tho u need it for pain, normie scum want u to suffer, cos they're evil crabs-in-bucket scum
just take quetiapine if you want to have a good sleep once in a while
>>537509918It's mild discomfort all the time followed by waves of more severe discomfort that don't last too long. Just tough it out. If you feel like you need another ten days to make the jump l, so he it, bit tough it out, go to zero and don't be a slave. That's my honest freon advice to you. I don't demand anything from you that I wouldn't demand from myself or others around me. You can tough it out. Smoke some weed for a bit if you want to.
>>537501854The high you get from injecting it is not the same as the high you get from eating an extended release tablet.
>>537506786Most of them are manufactured specifically so that doesn't work.
>>537501854>wtf i took this (abuse-proofed) medication as prescribed and didnt get highno shit retard. junkies smoke and snort and inject that shitrate of absorption is the only part that mattersalsoyou must be like >500lbs. an 80 taken orally by a normal-sized human with no tolerance is enough to knock you out for hrsgo get some exercise fatty
>>537509969You're right, and I was probably too glib about it. At the same time, while the direct combat in the COIN meme wars was often not as frequent as it was in other wars... it's hard to express what it feels like to know that every step you take could be the end of your life, and that even if you survive, you're probably going to be a paraplegic for the rest of what remains. It's all well and good while it's abstract, but the second or third time you see someone you know get torn in half by an IED, it changes the way you look at... everything, I guess. It's no longer just "well, this might happen" as much as it is being able to imagine in vivid detail, from personal experience, what it might be like if that's you. A part of your brain just kind of goes dark and really, really doesn't want to turn back on, if that makes sense. I envy the partisans, in a way. They knew what they were doing it for. When you're a professional soldier, the mental gymnastics you have to do to explain to yourself why you're there doing what you're doing is incredibly hard. Did I do it for money? For Israel? For oil companies? Just for the lifestyle? I still don't know. The simplicity of "I am defending my homeland" is the part I envy, to be clear -- not the misery you're talking about... because, yeah, I think I can actually imagine that. People who think causally about these things dramatically under-index on the general misery of war: being cold, hungry, in a sleep deficit that feels like it'll take a lifetime to pay off, etc. My point isn't to get into a pissing contest, for the record. I just wanted to push back on "blowing up some ragheads every once in a while." War is always much, much more than that.
>>537510668must be similar with ruskie soldiers now. Do they really believe they're liberating ukraine from nazis? Supposedly they're on voluntary contractsthat assuming that ruskies can reflect on their lives, which I have my doubts about. Some probably can, but a lot of them are probably too dumb for it. Rarely anyone smart would sing up for this anyway.
>>537501854I was given fentanyl in the ER. It felt pretty damn good
>>537511130Very few people in general ever want to imagine the possibility that they did something wrong. I'm not sure it's a smart or dumb thing -- just a basic human willingness. Russia's an interesting case, though. The way I understand it, huge majorities of their volunteers are from steppe villages and towns on the vast interior. They're offered material benefits beyond what they would ever make on their own. For them, it's money. For a lot of us, it's the GI bill, citizenship, a steady paycheck, etc. I imagine among the Rus volunteers there is more patriotic sentiment, but who knows?
>>537511130its no small secret that a vast amount of russias troops rn are just provincial vatniks and churkoids from whereverstan and fuckistan and backistan etc. the signing bonus is embarrassingly cheap, but on the nowhere parts of russia? its some generational wealth. and to ppl whove probably never exp such things, literally ever. even better if you get (confirmed) killed, then your mom can prolly buy a fucking houseor at least thats what it is on paperin reality its more like geting listed as "missing" for a few yrs then receiving a sack of buckwheat and a letter of condolences
>Be me, get surgery for deviated septum>Nurse wakes me up after the anesthesiologist cuts propofol>"it's time to wake up anon">try to go back to sleep because fuck that shit>she nudges me again and says to get up >"are you comfortable anon?">knowing whats coming I say no>she pushes 5mg oxymorphone through the IV>feeling got to my shoulder, then all at once the best euphoria I have ever experienced overcame my entire body. No words to describe how peak the feeling was>moan a bit>"are you comfortable anon?">y-yeah Shit was so good and I'll never forget how it felt. I enjoy opioids but am not the type to get addicted thankfully. They're really hard to come by these days anyway. I never really liked oxycodone, it just makes me feel like I'm on the moon but not in a good way, the body high is just uncomfortable. Hydrocodone on the other hand has always felt way better imo, it's like my body feels "golden." It sucks places in the states don't give them out as much anymore, one time I had a pinched nerve in my lower back and the physician assistant that saw me just gave me a cortisone shot (after which i passed out) and some muscle relaxers. I was in so much pain for the next two days, but at least the two solved the problem relatively quickly.
>>537506786You can only do that if it is in hcl form. Doesn't have anything to do with the film or whatever. It's the molecules themselves they have changed, and added longer chains so the body can't break it down immediately.
>>537511930it was actually 4mg Hydromorphone not 5mg oxymorphone my bad
>>537501854reformulated
>>537510668https://youtu.be/1gmgwx77oswSorry you got duped to take part into some zog war, I hope you've learned your lesson.
>>537504068That's strange. I used to smoke heroin semi-frequently and it always felt great, like you're lying on a cloud enveloped by a warm coat of bliss.
>>537502043>sportsball
>>537511564>I'm not sure it's a smart or dumb thing -- just a basic human willingness.it definitely is. Dumb people are incapable of admitting they could have been in the wrong. They dindu nothing>imagine among the Rus volunteers there is more patriotic sentimentthere probably are some who believe in this bs. Some maybe just like the action. >>537511775I've seen an interview with some Buryat volunteer, who knifed a hohol in combat. Then hohol proceeded to beg the Buryat to finish him off, cause he was suffering. So Buryat finished the job. It didn't seem like he felt any regret. It was pure business for him. Maybe I'm too soft or maybe they're sociopathic - idk. Would I feel remorse if I knifed a guy who invaded my country? I don't think so, even though I'm Catholic. Would it bother me if I volunteered to go to a foreign place and then killed someone - quite definitely. Idk if it would be more because of religion or because of my inner morality.
>>537511564>I imagine among the Rus volunteers there is more patriotic sentimentnot really, they feel like they're the bottom of the barrel while tajiks fuck their wives
>>537512376This, opioids are like sitting in a comfy rocking chair in front of a fire during winter
>>537514318>there probably are some who believe in this bs. Some maybe just like the action.Neither the Ruskis nor the Ukies are very popular here, they just keep to themselves. They have more contact with each other than they have with the local population. That being said, those are mostly rich people who live a comfortable life, not some average Ruski from bumfuck nowhere. I hear that a contract is financially pretty attractive for the average village Ruski. Either they live and get a nice sum of money, or they die and their family gets an even bigger sum, so often the family (the dear mamushkas) press them into serving out a contract or two.
>>537514318youre not looking at it right because you have no referencesure, the reason(s) theyre both there is dumb politics and ethnic whatever, but the only thing that matters in the now is survival. when someone is trying to kill you, you try to kill them back. its hardly a choice, its basically an instinct.alsoi know what vid youre talking about, and iirc you have it backwards. the ukro guy asked to be left to bleed out, but the guy put him down instead. and that wasnt some "cold" decision, it was pragmatic. he was obv holding that position alone, so why would he give his enemy time to call in drones or backup?its war. youre not allowed to think like a normal human in society. because youre not in society. in fact youre literally in what happens when society breaks. if you try to bring those peacetime rules of engagement to a war, youre gonna get ded. and you still might get ded anyways because war fucking sucks. thats just how it works
>>537514847>so often the family (the dear mamushkas) press them into serving out a contract or twomore like their wives. Slavic mothers love their sons>>537515442idk, I watched it a while ago. I just know that the Buryat guy seemed unbothered by it. Maybe in the moment you don't think about it, but after the war, it bothers some and doesn't bother others. And I think it's correlated with intelligence
>>537502048Kikes dont push that "narrative" you moron. Pharma jews would be the last to admit their products are addictive. Addicts will tell you that its addictive
>>537515537There's Slavic and then there's whatever the fuck the Russians are, mój brate. Haven't you seen the memes, the Ruski mother that proudly proclaimed "I'm sending them for mother Russia, I can always make more sons" and similar shit? They don't give a fuck and their whore wives aren't much better. I have a literal disgust feeling when I see Russian women. I'm a faggot when it comes to Russian women, fuck those self-centered ego whores.
>>537514318You feel bad because bad action has bad consequences. It's a fear for the future.
>>537515537outside of real actual psychos (who more often than not are filtered out during training cuz they cannot take orders for shit) i dont think ANYONE actually likes killing ppl. hell even just tangential involvement in killing ppl has some coming back with trauma of some sort. its not an ordinary thing to be involved in something of the scale of a war. it weighs heavily on anyone, even the dim. esp when its personal and you can literally watch em die.but if you gotta kill ppl to keep you and your frens alive? youre gonna do it, or you and your frens simply arent gonna make it. because the other guys? on the other side? are doing the exact same thing.thats as simple as i can make itit highlights the importance of diplomacy. ppl scoff as if talks/failed talks etc are all a waste of time. in reality theyre the only things that can truly stop war. even in wars where a clear victor emerges, theres still diplomacy required at the end. sadly, every world leader rn, on every side, isnt rly interested in les war. quite the opposite, they want more. they want so many more, that even when at peace, theyll be funding two other insurgencies somewhere else just to keep the wheel turning. and so kids from wherever have to go fight other kids from somewhere else. rinse repeat.now certainly im no pacifist, and theres plenty of just causes for a war (for ex ukros defending themselves). but when it drags into these multi-year slugging matches? this war didnt need to take 5yrs. the line has hardly changed since the first year and a half or so. putin couldve just taken his gains and tried again next decade. he wasnt interested. so its 10-min knife fight with the mongol in eastern ukraine time. cuz no one can get both guys in the same room to hash it out like fucking civilized men
>>537516185>putin couldve just taken his gains and tried again next decade.not a fan of putin, but I think this is what Stambul 2022 agreement was supposed to be about. But then anglos got involved and told Zelensky to break the talks.
>>537501854Took it for 6 days once after surgery fir pain. Got constipated and took a 12 lb asshole ripping shit. Worst high ever.
>>537516462If we're complete fair-minded, Putin has a point about Nato bases, American intervention and subversion, red-lines etc. The war was completely provoked, but that doesn't mean I can support waltzing into another country in that fashion. I also get the Polacks perspective, but they shouldn't have tied themselves to the US in that fashion. A European only solution would be preferable, get the band aid off and tell the Americans to mind their own business (respectfully).We can all agree that the best off all outcomes for everyone involved would have been the Istanbul talks a couple of weeks after the war started, but this ungodly chimp BoJo fucked it up for everyone, may he rot in hell for eternity one day.
>>537507356K. He is talking about injecting intravenously bud.
>>537501854Drugs are not actually some great experience. The people that take them are retarded and easily entertained.
>>537517058the war was provoked but by russia and over a decade ago>Putin has a point about Nato basesnah. It's bullshit. Nato just stops putin from doing whatever he wants in the region. It's a delusion to say that NATO would want to attack russia. there's no legitimacy to this war. If donbasians wanted sovereignty they're free to do what tehy want about it, but they shouldn't have been armed by russians to begin with. Without that, there would be no conflict there in 2013.Polacks ally themselves with whoever would have a real pull in case of war. And that's certainly not anglos, nor germans. There are only 3 major miliatry powers out there: americans, russians and chinese. All others just fall into spheres of influence of the 3. So, out of the 3 america is the obvious choice
>>537517577Nato is a strictly defensive coalition, they would never attack countries for containment or regime change reasons, right? I get your thinking, but just know that you tied yourself to the neighborhood mob boss in order to be free from the other regional mob bosses, nothing else. When the US says dance, you will dance like a monkey.
>>537517904we play the cards we were dealt. I don't think Poland could afford to be neutral, like Switzerland.it's kind of like you say, but not exactly. Worst case scenario if you don't want to do what USA wants, USA pulls out and you're left alone. So you still have a choice. Meanwhile in a soyuz with Russia or China you couldn't simply disagree and expect no retaliation. Not to mention both would aim to dominate your country sooner or later. Which USA does to, but at least this comes with prosperity instead of being drained.
>>537515442>its war. youre not allowed to think like a normal human in society.I disagree. I think that during a war is the only time you arguably CAN act like a human in society. A value only has teeth when it's hard to uphold. It's only real when every real incentive points against it. When it's easy... it's just the path of least resistance. I would additionally argue that the general behavior of "normal humans in society" is a much lower bar than you think it is. After all, the people who run this side of the dotted line do so as if it's a kind of war anyway, right? They compete ruthlessly, fuck each other over, prioritize themselves above anything else. They steal and con and obey laws only when the cost and likelihood of the consequence exceeds the chance and benefit of the upside. I would argue that in terms of outcomes, "normal humans in society" have caused the deaths of more people than all the soldiers of all the world's wars. Through deprivation, economic capture, slashed benefits, and on and on, they've caused more suffering than any soldier could have ever caused himself.It's just that we have these economic and political layers of abstraction/indirection through which intentional actions are passed and whitewashed and finally presented as if they are textural features of reality instead of the purely contingent outcomes they are -- as if human beings didn't cause them. I have a lot of bitterness about the military world I left, but I have even more directed at the civilian world into which I returned. I think you are drawing a distinction without an essential difference in anything but circumstance. You can act as a human being at war or peace. I think most people choose not to in either, and blaming it on war is a total copout.
Reminder that most opioid withdrawal symptoms can be almost entirely mitigated by loperamide, an OTC medication available everywhere. Don't overdo it though because it's bad for your heart in high doses and you'll probably need to taper off it because it's an opioid itself.The symptoms it can't help with (insomnia etc) can be dealt with via other medications.
>>537518753It's best to inform yourself precisely what awaits you and how long it will last etc. When I quit this Diazepam devil after six weeks, I typed out my stats, what I took and how long I took it and asked a AI a shit load of questions. I was informed what awaits me and I've just dealt with it. The known devil is much less frightening compared to the unknown devil.
>>537508073I have a public service announcement for everyone on this shit. From a long time user. ‘They’ suppressed these studies from the 70s, but it’s the method I use. Get high dose buffered vitamin c, and take like 4-6k milligrams before bed with withdrawing. You will sleep, they think it sits in the receptors and stops the cortisol flush and nmda response. It also makes you not able to feel any buzz if taken prior, and majorly lessens cravings. I thought it would be bs till I tried it. Normal vitamin c at those doses will destroy your stomach don’t do this. Is it a magic cure? No. Does it work to get sleep and not be as bad? Absolutely
>>537501854how much of this stuff do I need to take to feel any difference? Ive tried 15mg and nothing had happened
>>537501854Bout to pop a terpentadol
you gotta inject it straight into the bloodstream for that mindblowing high the movies show
>>537520911That's what AI shit said when I asked about this. Very interesting, this might actually help some poor devil, good work bro:The Key Human EvidenceThe most frequently referenced human study regarding this protocol was published in 2000 by a research group in Greece (Evangelou, 2000).The Setup: Researchers administered massive daily doses of oral Vitamin C—300 mg per kilogram of body weight per day (which equals about 21,000 mg or 21 grams for a 70 kg adult)—supplemented with Vitamin E, to a group of heroin-dependent patients for at least 4 weeks.The Results: The study reported that roughly 50% of the Vitamin C-treated patients experienced only "mild" withdrawal symptoms, compared to just 6.6% in the control group who received standard care. Severe withdrawal symptoms were significantly less common in the group taking Vitamin C.This human study built upon earlier, mostly unindexed observational work and field visits from the 1960s and 1970s evaluating whether ascorbic acid could ease detoxification from narcotics (Schauss, 2012)..
>>537505377>>537505645If you take opioids when you are actually in pain, the relief is euphoric. But you can get the same euphoric relief if you take 800mgs of advil and Tylenol too. If you are purely abusing, it often needs to reach a certain plasma concentration for you to notice the euphoria and then for your brain to start making those opioid pathways available. Some people don't need this, and strong painkillers bypass this too. But for normal stuff like oxy and percs, it can take 2-3 days to really work
>>537502048With actual nerve pain you may be better off on tegratol or Gabapentin, always felt oxy and fent did nothing for my nerve pain at all... Anyway if you wanna stay on it don't forget to have something to help you shit
>>537525487Or Pregabalin, depending on what kind of nerve pain you have. I don't think opioids do shit against nerve pain, my best friend has some of these problems. Depending on what you have, you might try something like PEA (Palmitoylethanolamid), make sure it's micronized. It does really help some people. I took it for my old fractures, together with Cissus Quadrangularis and it helped calm down some residual pain and discomfort from my old fractures. I only took the combo for two months, I will actually try it for four months soon because I really believe it helped me. PEA is also worth a try if you have Sciatica problems.
>>537525487It helped me with occipital neuralgia.
>>537501854Do Norcos get you high? I was hanging out with a buddy and he gave me like 3 or 4 of them and I took them and I didn't feel anything at all. I'm pretty sure they were legit too, they were like right out of the prescription bottle
Duuurrrrrr I love sleepingHuuurrrrdur this this da best
>>537522883>You can get the same euphoric feel of 800mg ibuprofen Absolutely false.The euphoria isnt from relief of pain, that's just an added benefit.>>537505645The first high is usually the strongest or most memorable, which is why many people refer to dosing painkillers as "chasing the dragon".You will never experience "that one high" ever again because your brain knows what to expect, like you said.
>>537501854just because it has jewish packaging and labels doesnt mean you didnt got scammed. most jewish drugs are fake. sometimes people took 10x the max dose and didnt felt anything, others took only small amount and died. dont use your experience as a benchmark. because buying pharma is as bad as buying nigger.
>>537502352/threadBeen a Kratom addict for over a year now and it never would've started had I not enjoyed the anti-depression affects. They did a test in Switzerland I think where they gave heroin addicts their heroin every morning for free, as much as they wanted, and then they helped them get jobs and houses, and eventually, as their life increased, they no longer wanted to use heroin. They eliminated their opioid crisis by just giving them a better life. This is the addict's real problem.
