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Did you know that there are over 400,000 different species of beetles? We can tell that any two random beetles are different species because of differences in their physical appearances, genetics, and behavior! However as everyone knows there is obviously only one species of Humans. Science is so freaking cool!
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>>537503473
>looking very different = different species
do you know what makes a species?
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>>537503473
Left one looks like an effeminate faggot while the right one looks like a Australian Chad.
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>>537504178
certian species of butterfly have a fixation index of .2 and we still class them as different species
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>>537504372
With a flag like that, how could I possibly be surprised?
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>>537504379
species aren’t determined by one parameter like fixation index. ability to interbreed naturally is the main thing though
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>>537504547
>ability to interbreed naturally is the main thing though
REATRD ALERT. taxonomy was created before we sequences the human genome. also
>the ability to breed AND PRODUCE FERTILE OFFSPRING
you're forgetting your basic secondary school biology classes

fst is how we determine speciation nowadays. taxonomy will always change with new data. but our genetics are basically set. even "enviormental" factors are epigenetics.

new taxa are created every day. an australoid is a difderent species to a european caucasian.
>evolved in isolation
>seperated by continents
>vastly different enviormental factors

mixed race offspring between a pairing of an abbo and a huwyteman is by defenition a new species and not a hybrid. follow the logic. that means the parents were two different species
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Do you think non-whites are in a constant state of envy over Nordic features and that's why they hate us?
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>>537504372
Your parents are siblings and for God's sake put on some closed toed shoes.
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>>537504913
Well obviously, I just wish you Whites stop being so sensitive about how society views your actions.
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>>537504913
nah the just hate us because of otherisation and tribalism. there is no grand ideological reason for it. different populations compete
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"Species" is an arbitrary category.
Scientists categorise things as same species if they maybe have a common ancestor and maybe can interbreed and kinda sorta look similar.
There is no real hard and fast definition for species, so scientists can call whatever they want species and can't be called wrong for it. Its just a loose tool for understanding the world.
If you want a stricter definition, you can go ahead and make one yourself. Put in the work.
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>>537503473
late with this stuff 10 years if not more. All fields. Nowadays it's kill the jews or bust.
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>>537505093
its a "social construct" that describes real phenomena. the point where we class things might seem arbitrary to an autistic midwit. taxonomy based on ancestry is how we track changes in living creatures.
i had to get my jaw wired shut one time because i got into a very bad fight with another biologist over weather "dogs" are a new species
>they are
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>>537505177
/thread
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>>537503473
They say the difference between human races is the same as the difference between foxes and wolves—animals we consider to be different species; that’s what I heard. I also heard that the different human races resulted from interbreeding between *Sapiens* and other hominids. The mainstream pushes this narrative of equality, claiming there is only one race—the "human race."

It’s just something I heard, and it seems to make sense.
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>>537503473
There's no such thing as "species", retard. It's an entirely arbitrary concept.
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>>537503473
BUMPING FOR TRUE, SETTLED, SCIENCE!
HEIL THE SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS!!!
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>>537503473
The concept of a species is still hotly debated in the scientific world, to the point where taxonomic categories have been sidelined in favor of determining genetic similarities through differences in genetic sequences. These can be represented using cladograms in which organisms are organized into clades based on their evolutionary similarity. These cladograms are still constructed under the assumption that differences in an organism's genome accumulate at a constant rate, but are still helpful for most
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>>537504870
>fst is how we determine speciation nowadays.
totally wrong.
fst is not even a species threshold
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>>537505369
so is almost any concept by your logic
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>>537505332
That pic should be horrifying to everybody with a soul. Those cannibal things still exist and walk among us.
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>>537505332
Everyone's just scared that if it's acknowledged that we're different, then it will result in people being dicks to each other and thinking they're better than each other. If only they understood that people think that anyways, so they're just fucking things up by spreading a lie that will probably muddy future knowledge, especially if civilization falls again.
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>>537505551
>fst is not even a species threshold
youre misinformed or lying. its not the ABOSLUTE threshold. youre just denying that fst has been used to determine speciation
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>>537503473
the abo would outlive the honkey in a catastrophic climate warming event
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>>537506262
you can easily google most of the stuff you've said and you will see you are incorrect.
it's fine if you want to say some races are worse than others, but they are not a different species
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>>537503473
the differences aren't big enough to be meaningful in practice. if religious people, whom are literal retards, can live functional lives in a white society then an abo can do it too
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>>537506563
can an abo be a president or millionaire in a white society? if trump could then anyone can
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>>537506499
the are different species. everytime you've replied you've made mistakes. you're not capable enough to debate this topic
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>>537504547
>wolves dogs and coyotes are all the same species

>>537504913
>Do you think non-whites are in a constant state of envy over Nordic features and that's why they hate us?
it's a big part of it
you can see their poopy eyes light up with hatred when they see a tall blonde head rising from the stunted brown crowd
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>>537506856
Was going to post about canids. The main difference between dogs and wolves is a double repeat, Whig allows dogs to digest cereals, wolves cannot do this. Small differences count.
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>>537506803
what mistakes did i make?
>>537506856
>wolves dogs and coyotes are all the same species
species is not defined by can x and y interbreed alone..
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Species is a concept applied to animals, insects etc. Humans have "races". You may call it species as well, if you like, would not change much.
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>>537507115
>ability to breed is the main thing
>fst isnt a species thershold whatsoever
>different races =/= different species

three massive mistakes any student in a secondary school could correct you on. like i said, you're using google ai to argue for you and dont even have the mental bandwith to read it beyond the first sentence

you're not equipped to debate this go back to baiting retards on starmer
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>>537503473
Nigger
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>>537504372
Very good baby rapejeet you are learning to bait like a white
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>>537507115
>species is not defined by can x and y interbreed alone..
unless you're trying to own le heckin raycis
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>>537507285
>ability to breed is the main thing
of course it is, but it is not the deciding rule. your inability to understand this nuance is holding you back.

fst + ability to breed are not definitive rules or thresholds. this is basic stuff.
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>>537507158
And humans are what?
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>>537504379
>cherry picked example of low fixation index is .2
>most black and white humans have a fixation index of .1
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>>537506499
Sub-species is accurate. I had thia conversations with chatgpt, grok and gemini and got all 3 to consneed that given all the animals we classify as subspecies we could also do the same for different human population groups. Took me a long ways to get then qll to consneed though
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>>537507487
lad you're floundering, just arguing for the sake of pride...on an anon imageboard. well if you're just going to "no u" and add zero contributions im going to say ive soundly defeated your adolescent brain in a debate. the "races" of men are species. not even sub-species. the differences between populations is more than enough

gg no re
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>>537504913
>Do you think non-whites are in a constant state of envy
They are.
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>>537507525
Different races are different species of humans. Question is - what does this change exactly?
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>>537507604
i used butterflies because there are still some retards who refuse to acknowdlege dog breeds as sub species. breeds with an fst of 1 with massive morpholigical, behavioral differences. in populations that lack genetic diversity, the smaller differences count more

dont reply to things you cannot understand, mutt
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>>537507885
you are full of shit and expect other people to buy into your nonsense. you lost tranny.
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>>537507763
>what does this change exactly
its just a classification debate. thats all taxonomists do. all day every day. it doesnt have much impact on society and politics because biologists are all women or autistic
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>>537507678
thank you for conceding.
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>>537507909
>ad hominem

hehe. you really are a mutt. i dont talk to alien species. it's wasted on you. its like talking to a cactus. fruitless
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>>537507954
>no u
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>>537507885
>1
>.1*
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>>537507932
People here tend to think of this as some kind of gotcha moment. Like if they manage to prove blacks and whites are different species, then they will stop mixing or somethhing? That is not how it works.
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>>537507968
whatever potato nigger.
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>>537503473
I am Science, Ligma balls Tulsi.
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>>537508069
No, it's the fact that people say there are absolutely no differences between everyone, except skeen cola, which is absolutely bullshit. There are some very fundamental differences, especially when you get into the realm of medicine, where taking that attitude can get people killed or give wildly inaccurate test results.
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>>537503473
explain this
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>>537508069
its just autism. retards like the anon i was debating think just because an animal can stick its cock into another animal, that makes them the same species. he's follwing older taxonimical classifications.
now we look for common ancestors through fossil analysis and most importantly their genome. we've seen animals become new species in controlled enviroments. iirc the tested guppies they breed in isolation with an fst of .6 after a very few cycles of reproduction, relatively few. it was still hundreds of generations
people dont want to class humans as such for political reasons and people wish to seperate us for political reasons. it just comes down to what is the most logical way to orgnise us and not surprisingly theres a a lot of debate.

really its all just people with pointless degrees justifying their employment.
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>>537503473
Science has been always co-opted by the current political climate.
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>>537508069
no, its a justification for TND because theyre violent savages
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>>537503473

Did you know that the different "races" have completely different teeth which have evolved over tens of thousands of years, just like different species of animal?

Notable differences include

Shovel-Shaped Incisors: These have a distinctive scooped shape on the back and are primarily found in populations with East Asian or Native American ancestry.

Cusp of Carabelli: People of European descent frequently have an extra small cusp (bump) on their upper molars.Tooth Size and Roots: Research has shown that populations of African and Native American descent frequently have larger teeth and deeper roots compared to populations of European descent

Tooth Loss Disparities: While genetics dictate the shape of your teeth, overall oral health is heavily influenced by environmental factors, diet, and access to dental care. For example, studies from organizations like the CareQuest Institute note significant disparities in tooth loss among adults of different ethnic groups, typically driven by systemic socioeconomic and healthcare inequalities rather than biological destiny.

There are of course different species of human, and yes LIKE ANIMALS, different species of human can produce fertile offspring.
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>>537507909
why are you calling him a tranny? trannies would take your side in this debate
its one of the few objectively correct takes youll ever see on this board
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>>537507763
A lot actually, different human species have different baseline metabolism, reaction to medicine, healthy weight threshold, response to nutrition, and organ compatibility. Ignoring human species difference gets people killed due to virtue signaling. Medical professionals tacitly understand this difference in human species already.
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>>537509333
>Medical professionals tacitly understand this difference in human species already.
>trips of truth
call up a blood bank and pretend to be the child of a pygmy mother and a han father and see how much money they offer you for that genetic concotion
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>>537504870
I love you spaghetti-bro. the seethe in this thread is amazing
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>>537504178
Looking very different. Anything else is zionist propaganda. English people are a different species to Welsh people and Scottish people.
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>>537509564
you seem to have made a catastrophic error
>english
>people
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Fuck, rape all whites everywhere.
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>>537504870
Why do you retarded faggots have to pivot to zog ideology at every fucking moment. Stop saying indo-European, stop saying white European and don’t say caucasian. There are no brown Europeans. Indo groups us with the Middle East and india. Caucasian is an outdated way of grouping people by skull shape. Our ancestors had been proto-Europeans. We are ethnically European. Anyone who says otherwise is a communist non contributing to a genocide.
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>>537509333
Checked, and this. I wouldn't have a problem if people would just acknowledge the differences and say it shouldn't be a reason for everyone to mistreat each other, or whatever, but it's the dystopian levels of propaganda and lying, shaming and ostracizing people into ignoring their lying eyes, that disgusts me about clown world bullshit like this. It's actually evil, even if it is wrapped in some pretty bow.
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>>537509768
shut up, retard. pull your finger out of your arse and dont you DARE put it in your mouth. you go wash you hands RIGHT NOW

filthy little boy
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its hard to believe right fucks left in the ass
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>>537503473
The left one has useless nose, the Abos and Jews have maintained the good nose so you can get some fucking oxygen in. We in west have the whole mental collapse thing and slave thinking because we constant lack of oxygen.
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>>537507685
Imagine having your back to a stabmonke, especially on a bus. NEVER RELAX.
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>>537509942
Fuck off you irrelevant ginger ape. Why don’t you import some more nons while crying about a jewish zombie sky wizard.
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>>537510036
why do whites refuse to admit before america, whites were jews slaves. its a process no different than modern trooning jews shill.
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>>537503473
That's no more science than gay woman priests are kikestianity.
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>>537510133
>he tasted his own shit

after i told you not to? shameful little gremlin. rancid little shrew. i dont care how autistic the doctors say you are. YOU WILL NOT EAT YOUR OWN SHIT
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>>537504178
yes regions do
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>One side is a model the other side is an old weathered dude
He could be italian
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>>537507487
>there are no specific and clearly laid out criteria for what makes a distinct species distinct
yeah, that's the problem with this sort of "science"... in math definitions are clearly laid out or you can't move forward... anthropologists and sociologists and other somesuch for too long have been getting away with obscurantism ("well it's more complicated", "it depends", "there is no clear definition", etc)
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>>537503473
Domestic rabbits and wild rabbits can't even breed because they're so genetically different, yet that "white ubermensch Chad" CAN procreate with that sub-Saharan. Really makes you think!
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>>537510814
>no clear criteria
thats why we have gene clusters and relative distance. this isint edwardian taxonomy
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>>537504178
no one agrees on what makes a species. many distinct species can interbreed, but usually choose not to. for instance, coyotes and wolves can interbreed. something like 15% of living animals and 25% of living plants are thought to be interspecies hybrids. calling all humans the same species is not a biological decision, it's a political one.
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>>537505716
what's even more horrifying is some degenerate human chose to fuck it.
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>>537507644
i got gemini to admit that the way we assign humans all to one species is purely political. biologists decided at some point that they would define "species" in such a way so that all humans were members of the same species. so when you define species with that goal in mind, of course "one human race" is the result you will get.

but the fact is science has not come to terms with how to classify hybrids. homo erectus, neanderthals, denisovians and cro-magnons are all different species, but what about hybrids? where do you draw the line. it's just all political, and anyone is free to think other races are different species and you can't say they're wrong because it depends how you think "species" should be defined.

remember leftists can't define what a woman is and say race isn't real. don't let them make you feel weird for using your eyes and brain.
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>>537508931
>blonde
>brunette
>ginger
Shave the cats and let's see what they look like
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>>537510120
nowadays i tell anyone who will listen that racism saves lives. that ukranian girl is a perfect example. she chose to sit there.
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>>537511253
>lions and tigers are the same creature
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>>537508069
the underlying point is that on a grand scale, behaviour is predictable based on race. think pit bulls.
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>>537503473
Member of A can make perfectly healthy and fertile offspring with the member of B. They also share the same environment and depend on exact same good chain nowadays, so seperating them even in biome based species is kinda pointless.
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>>537505093
>If you want a stricter definition, you can go ahead and make one yourself. Put in the work.
Take whole genome data
Plot on a PCA plot
Sub/sSpecies are any groupings formed with default correlation circles, depending on percentage of overlap etc.
WOWWWWWWW, so hard. Almost like we already did this and proved there were different human species
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>>537516682
BLEACHED
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>>537513349
I always love the different species (non human animal) vs same species pictures. Especially when it's like Australian abo which look like cavemen.



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