>The United States has launched a trade investigation into Germanyover its plans to cut spending on pharmaceuticals.>U.S. Trade Representative Jameson Greer says the probe is looking intowhether Berlin's drug pricing policies are unfair or discriminatory towards American companies.>The investigation comes under Section 301 of the U.S. Trade Actand could lead to tariffs on German exports if Washington finds evidence of unfair practice.>Germany is facing growing financial pressure on its public health care systemwith a projected budget shortfall of around €20 billion.>To help control the cost, Berlin has proposed measures that would require pharmaceutical companiesto offer larger discounts on expensive new drugs.>However, the Trump administration argues that such policies allow countries like Germanyto access medicines at much lower prices,>forcing American consumers to shoulder a disproportionate share of the cost of developing new medicines.>Just two months ago, Washington used these exact same trade threatsto pressure the UK into a historic deal,>forcing the British government to effectively double its spending on new medicinesto avoid American tariffs.https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xah8e3mhttps://www.cnbc.com/2026/06/19/us-tariff-probe-germany-drug-pricing-policies-mfn.htmlhttps://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/us-launches-section-301-probe-into-germany-over-drug-pricing-2026-06-19/https://www.euronews.com/business/2026/06/19/us-launches-trade-probe-into-germany-over-medicine-prices
Fucking finally. Ive had it with the fucking europoors dumping my pharma stocks.
Give us your parents or else
Will someone please think about the poor billionaire elite.
>>537508741Have fun with your own healthcare costs going up soon
>Nooooooo you're not allowed to use collective bargaining power to stop pharma from exploiting your people NOOOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO GIVE US MORE MONEYAbout fucking time, American companies have leeched the world, they do not have a right to a cut of everything anymore. I hope US companies are discriminated against.
>>537508763Thats not going to happen tho, our jews need our boomer elderly population alive a few more decades, you are outjewed by the jews.
>>537508819The utility of most modern drugs are marginal anyway. Modern healthcare would do well with just generic drugs. It is the pharma companies that are desperate to get their new products on the market.
It's time for Europe to go hard on the American digital goods and services industry. All the big American internet and software companies need to get shafted as a response. Do what China did, implement regulation and tax schemes that makes it impossible or unprofitable for American hyperscalers to operate here, make it possible for local companies to grow, stop transferring the services tax to america. The simplest avenue would be data privacy because of the American glowy laws that allows them to slurp up all data from American companies even from operations in foreign countries, their retarded sanctions like sanctioning judges from the human rights court and all that shit
>>537509238Honestly it's time for google and Microslop to be cut out entirely.
>>537509317Most governments are changing to Linux already.It's time to stop this atlantcist bullshit especially since there is nothing European in the USA anymore anyway.We must do what China does but first we must remove all Washington puppets first.
>paying more is good ok stop asking questions Burgers really see nothing wrong here
>>537509950Please think a moment about the poor super rich child raping elite of the USA.They deserve better.
I think this is an interesting piece of news. If I understand it correctly the situation is something like this:>Germany has public health care>Germans are mandated by law to have "health insurance" but it's basically a public thing, the fee they pay works like a tax>when a German is sick, he goes to the pharmacy and buys pills>his public insurance company then pays a percentage of the price of the drug>the German government has told US drug companies that the German government refuses to pay for a percentage of the drug price, through these "insurance companies", unless the total price of the drug (part paid by the patient, part by the public insurance company) is at a certain maximum level>the US government is now using the drug companies as a power tool to force Germany to pay more>or you could say the drug companies are using the US government, it goes both ways>it's a classic case of business and state being in the same boatThe situation is similar to something that happened about a century ago. Norway wanted to ban alcohol. Spain and Portugal were exporting a lot of wine to Norway. Spain and Portugal banned import of Norwegian fish to force Norway to lift the ban on alcohol, and it worked. The state liquor store in Norway was instituted as a result, and the purpose of it was and is to ensure that all Norwegians have easy access to alcohol, not to limit consumption. The same thing happened with Iceland.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_Icelandhttps://www.vinmonopolet.no/om-oss/var-historie/hoydepunkter-fra-vinmonopolets-historie>Vinmonopolet was established to secure trade with the wine-growing countries of Europe.>The purpose was to ensure that as many people as possible would have access to wine, not to place restrictions on sales, as many people believe.A similar thing happened internally in the USA when Amtrak wanted to serve alcohol on trains passing through dry states.https://www.cityweekly.net/news/booze-train-2147945
American drug prices are higher because of constant expensive advertising. Do what the rest of us do: no advertising, plain packaging, generic name clearly stated alongside brand name.>oh no, not that...
>>537509949Can we deport all the ugly browns too my fellow anonWe can keep a few of the pretty ones, but only the toppest of tiers.
>>537511159Somalia winning like usual.
>>537510255kys fag
>>537511366Are you some somali inbred animal?
Here are two articles about the event in the UK:https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx29kke01gpohttps://nypost.com/2025/12/01/business/trump-admin-strikes-zero-tariff-pharmaceutical-deal-with-britain/
>>537508422wasnt it a few days ago that the EU signed a trade deal with the US to prevent stuff like this?
>>537511589you are clearly a low IQ degenerate, gas yourself to spare the rest of us your presence
>>537511841as the OP says there was apparently a similar thing with the UK recentlysee >>537511712
>>537508819>they do not have a right to a cut of everything anymorewith the rise of AI the US is trying to pull that shit off in every sector. A huge part of the US economy is rent seeking on services.
>>537511712The UK exports 8.8billion in pharma to the US, while also "underpaying" for US drugs (They are a huge market with leverage of withdrawing customers, they can choose what to pay), 25% is barely anything on top of such a small amount, and honestly they will just swap to internal, indian or Chinese (Their own factories in other countries) imports and it will only harm the USA's exports kekIt's just a Trump win ticket that will get dropped in 2028 when the policy changes back.>>537511909Rent seekers will be undercut by other companies, it is ultimately self defeating in the long run in the global economy.
>>537508422>the jew is here to insist you keep buying his overpriced drug or he'll tariff you with illegal tariffsDaily reminder Pfizer mass murdered a lot of people and yet here's Donald Cunt rushing to their defence lest their profits be affected
>>537512436As I said earlier this is about the state using corporations as a power tool. Same thing that happened with The East India Company and The United Fruit Company. Business (corporations) is the engine of the state. I think the alcohol situation I mentioned a hundred years ago is a perfect analogy for what's going on. Imagine a country has a lot of vineyards. One country is trying to ban alcohol. The first country imposes tariffs in retaliation. Then the wine begins flowing again. The wine export brings money into the state, even if the vineyards are privately owned. This is how corporations and the state are two sides of the same coin. The state uses the vineyard as a power tool, the vineyard uses the state to get the wine sold, a two-way street. That's the same thing with this situation. Germany wants to keep drug prices low, like Norway wanted to limit alcohol consumption. The exporting country wants to increase their own wealth and power. Same dynamic.
https://ustr.gov/about/policy-offices/press-office/press-releases/2026/june/ustr-announces-initiation-section-301-investigation-germanys-persistent-underpayment-innovative
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_301_of_the_Trade_Act_of_1974
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-us-uk-trade-deal-will-cost-the-nhs-billions/id283916558?i=1000765622157https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/can-trumps-deal-uk-become-model-similar-drug-price-agreements
>>537508422>could lead to tariffs on German exportsNo it can't
>>537508422Vassal states need to know their place.You won't develop your fully independed tech industry.You won't develop your fully independent food industry.You won't develop your fully independent pharmaceutical industry.You won't develop your fully independend banking systems.You won't make peace with your resource rich neighbour and will stay energy dependent.You will pay to AMERICA and be happy.
>>537515687I view it more as a two-way street. On one side is the USA and the drug corporations, pushing for Germany to pay more for the drugs. On the other side is Germany pushing to pay less. Business is war, or cold war if you will. There is power in both directions here, it's not simply one side telling the other what to do.
>>537508422time for every country in the world to refuse to recognize american patents and american pharma companies to go out of business. no white men under 50 have jobs so this economy must burn
>>537516020>Germany pushing to pay lessthey need to make their own stuff and stop paying amerijeets
Medicine is important. Science is important. Pay. Pharma. Companies. What. They. Deserve.
>>537508763That's not going to happen. You might not know this, but the EU has enacted several pieces of legislation about a decade ago which enact category-based ceilings on the pricing for pharmaceuticals and medication. Products may not be sold on the EU markets above that price. And if products are pulled because of that, the legislation legally allows reverse-engineering them - patents be damned.It has afaik already been used with shortages for things like cancer-meds in the past.
>>537510255>vidWell-- Germans do like cheese with their beer, so I guess that works out.
I've worked for a pharma company and most, but not all, pharmaceuticals were preferentialy sold to America simply because they were willing to pay more for them. Some countries paid more for some specific pharmaceuticals, especially during times of high need in those countries. I assume the same is happening here, it's certainly not discrimination and as a consequence of paying more you get first dibs on new orders. If you want to pay the average or median price you will get a low priority for new orders.
>>537515687>You won't develop your fully independent food industry.The EU already has this actually. They're a net agriculture exporter.The only thing EU countries really bulk-import from the US is corn, which is to be shredded into animal feed, because it's actually classed as unfit for human consumption but fine (and cheap!) for animals.>You won't develop your fully independed tech industry.The EU has ASML, the only company in the entire world capable of producing and maintaining EUV lithography machines - the source of the modern microchip. TSMC means jack shit. TSMC just has foundries that have ASML's machines installed. While the EU doesn't have a fully independent tech sector, they actually have the leverage to completely shutdown chip production and end the era of modern computing in any country they desire.>You won't develop your fully independend banking systems.The EU is actively working on this through the European Payment Initiative (EPI).Stage 1 is uniform online payments that bypass US-held creditcard firms. This is the new WERO payment platform and it's rolling out across the EU in 2026-2028.
>>537518601The EU not only have EUV machines, the precision instruments needed for their manufacture are also European. Europe is world leading in most types of precision instruments needed for industry and labs.God knows how long that will be true with all 80 IQ izzat farmers we are importing.
>>537518695>God knows how long that will be true with all 80 IQ izzat farmers we are importing.The EU actually thought that one through. Indians can only get work visas for a max of 3 years and it cannot turn into permanent residence. Three years up? You're going back. Moreover, applicants are tested and vetted for qualification in India before they can travel into the EU, at special bureaus staffed by representatives of the EU itself.So no scamming with faked diplomas - like the US and Canada.
>>537519061I work with Indians and if they are vetted for qualification then I don't know what to say.
>>537508422Give us a better price or we’ll force the American people to pay more for all your shit.
>>537518601>The EU has ASML, the only company in the entire world capable of producing and maintaining EUV lithography machines - the source of the modern microchip.not true. you only manufacture chips designed by US firms using US patents along with parts from the US, Germany, and a few other countries. Without them you would be nothing. Nothing you say will change that. It's globalized and always was.
>noooo. You have to nickel and dime sick people like we do
>>537519260i meant the machines only manufacture chips that are designed by US firms
>>537519355(the majority)
>>537510396I almost never get anybody to discuss points I bring up anymore on this fucking board. It's all fucking bots at this point.
Yeah, that's america for ya
>>537522409As I pointed out this is exactly what Spain and Portugal did a hundred years ago. But you're all fucking bots, or too lazy to read more than two sentences. I fucking hate this fucking board. Never fucking ever any good discussions. Dead fucking board. Like you, wtf is your post? Lazy dumb fucking post.
>>537508422You must not stop the greed!!! Greed needs to be more not less! Nom nom nom feed me money
>>537509238Correct. Need less respect for patent and trademark law as well. And, most importantly, Europe has to be willing to eat or truck through the export hit.
>>537522958Yikes. Chill, fucker
>>537523705>let me type this with one hand while I jerk my dick with the other
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31622038https://westervillelibrary.org/antisaloon-europe/
>>537509147This, with many new drugs the benefits are marginal or niche compared to current generic drugs. There are so many receptors and enzymes you can interact with.
While mainstream geopolitical commentators covering the U.S.–Germany pharmaceutical probe have not yet explicitly drawn a direct parallel to the "Fish and Wine" trade wars of the 1920s, the structural similarities are remarkably accurate and striking. [1] Economic historians frequently study the 1920s disputes—where Norway and Iceland instituted alcohol prohibition, only to face devastating retaliatory tariffs on their primary fish exports from Portugal, Spain, and France—as a textbook example of asymmetric trade coercion. [2, 3, 4] The mechanics of the modern U.S.–Europe drug pricing dispute echo that century-old clash in three major ways:## 1. Domestic Social Policy vs. International Trade* * The 1920s: Norway and Iceland passed internal social legislation (Prohibition) to protect the health and morals of their citizens. Southern European nations argued this destroyed the legitimate market access for their signature exports (Port wine, Sherry, and Bordeaux). [2, 3, 4] * Today: Germany is attempting to reform its domestic social safety net (Statutory Health Insurance) to plug a €20 billion budget gap. The U.S. argues this domestic fiscal policy destroys market access and "persistently underpays" for its primary innovation export (pharmaceuticals). [5, 6, 7, 8] * ## 2. Targeting a Vulnerable Key Export* * The 1920s: Portugal successfully crippled the Nordic economies by slapping astronomical tariffs on bacalhau (dried and salted cod), which was Norway and Iceland's vital export economic engine. [3] * Today: The U.S. is utilizing a Section 301 investigation to threaten unilateral tariffs on Germany's highly valuable automotive and heavy machinery exports. Washington is intentionally targeting Germany’s economic core to force a concession on an entirely separate issue (healthcare). [6, 7] * ## 3. The Collapse of Sovereign Autonomy*
* The 1920s: The "Wine Countries" won decisively. Norway was forced to completely abandon its strict prohibition laws by 1923 because its fishing towns faced economic ruin without the Portuguese and Spanish markets.* Today: The U.S. is attempting the exact same outcome. Just as the U.K. was forced to double its NHS drug spending to protect its wider trade interests, Washington expects Germany to prioritize its macro-export economy over its domestic healthcare cost-containment goals. [2, 4, 7] * The historical lesson of the fish and wine wars is that when a small or medium power tries to implement domestic regulations that damage the core export of a major trade partner, the larger power will weaponize market access to force capitulation. A century later, pharmaceuticals have simply replaced port wine.
>>537518601>ASMLYou admit that the "European" (as if there's such thing) tech economy is backed by a legacy monopoly that will be no longer relevant as soon as the US and Chinks put the resources to develop a competition.>The EU is actively working on this through the European Payment Initiative (EPI).lmao
