The brainwashed American brain cannot understand how switching to carbs while travelling in Europe ends up making them lose weight. Years of non stop propaganda made everyone in this board believe meat is good for you and carbs are evil.Meanwhile the French consume the most carbs and are the thinnest Europeans. The shills always avoid this topic regarding the French./pol/ will never accept the fact that meme diets like Keto and Carnivore are just shilled here by the meat industry. They think they are contrarians while following direct orders by multi billion dollar industries.Truth is excessive meat consumption is inflammatory, makes you fat and destroys your heart(eating conscious animals for pleasure, since meat is not needed for survival in this day, destroys your heart). The brainwashing has reached a point where companies just stamp PROTEIN over shit products and retards buy them. Meanwhile a slice of bread a day was enough to keep your grandpa alive during wars and famines. Can protein do the same? The answer is no. You will literally die without carbs and all the meme diet influencers eat carbs in secret
>Greek flagMama mia!
You lose weight because you have to actually use your legs to move your fat American ass around the cities.
>>537528228Keto makes men bald, fucks up testosterone production and throws the endocrine system out of balance.
>>537528228Already debunked your nonsense in another thread.The mediterranean diet is not "mostly carbs".
Americans drown everything in dressing so obviously they get fat.
>>537528228Carbs are not inherently evil if you're actually expending the energy you get from it and aren't overeating. The problem is that it's extremely easy to eat a lot of extra carbs (unlike fat and protein) and that many live sedentary lives. Carbs is the thing to cut because it's not essentially and generally doesn't have much nutrients.>Meanwhile the French consume the most carbs and are the thinnest EuropeansThat's because they smoke
>>537528419True. I don't like salad dressing and everyone has always acted like I'm insane for just eating salad without it.
>>537528228So carbs make you lose weight, keto makes you lose weight, mediterranean diet makes you lose weight.What do I consume to gain weight?
>>537528228Reminder that this jew loving dick riding walking corpse went and took a screen shot of a video on a phone and then saved it to a computer to re-upload here.Its time to Kill every single last jew.No exceptions shall be made.
>>537528228>eating conscious animals for pleasure, since meat is not needed for survival in this day, destroys your heartYour beliefs are based on emotion, not fact. Post tits.>You will literally die without carbsObjectively false.
>>537528714The #1 thing that makes people gain weight is liquid calories. You'll notice that the fattest fucks are always chugging soda, beer, milkshakes, etc. If you just drink water, it's very difficult to become a giant fat fuck.
>>537528228She lost weight because she was consuming less calories than when she was in America. Calories are the only thing that matter for weight loss. It's not magic
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>>537528228>eat natural food with no kike poison, seed oils and HFCS>damn how am i losing weight.I drink fresh olive oil daily.
>>537528403>per capita meat>doesn't reference non meat total weight consumedITS DEBOOONKED
>>537529101
>>537528228The problem with meat is that most people eat it cooked in oil and covered in sauces but only count the meat itself when figuring how much they ate
>>537528228>Tell me why I've been in a country where you have to walk everywhere and lost weight
>>537528228>Meanwhile the French consume the most carbs and are the thinnest Europeans. The shills always avoid this topic regarding the French.I think that's because over here it's illegal to put poison in the food, contrary to the US. t. eat borger & pizzer every day + do zero efforts and still didn't blow up
>>537528343ThisAlsi, there is new stuff to see aroind every corner so you will want to walk around every corner
Because our flour is not fortified with with synthetic crap and folic acid.
>>537528228Its more to do with portion sizes. Here in north america the plate would have 3-4x more pasta on it.Put less on? And people will literally comment on you "not eating enough"
>>537528643What kinda salads do you eat tgen?
>>537528228Ameriburgers don't actually walk around the cities they live in, which is 99% of the problem. They sit around all day consuming slop on TV, playing slop video games, or some other sedentary activity, then they get into a car to drive to work, where most of their job involves sitting at a desk and typing on a computer, only to drive back home, return to their sedentary activity, and then go to sleep. Suddenly they appear in Europe, where much of the countries there tacitly encourage on-foot transit, and they lose mountains of calories because their bodies are finally in the locomotion they crave. Diet is a massive force multiplier for losing weight, but you cannot actually lose weight without movement to burn the calories you are consuming. Even if you just ate spinach and rice all day, sitting on your fat ass 99% of the day will not burn anywhere near as much as someone eating McDonald's but also doing high-intensity exercises on a regular basis.
>>537528228>YOU VILL EAT ZE KARBS UND YOU VILL BE HAPPY AND THIN
>>537528228>carbs not ultra processed and filled with perseveratives and sugar is good for you Wow
Americans are brainwashed into eating three meals a day and then sitting on the couch or driving a car. Once you start arguing about "carbs" and special diets, it's over. Just eat less calories and move around, you fat fucks. Fatasses are some of the most delusional people ever
>>537529374portion sizes and she's walking around all day /thread
>>537529002I've been trying to drink a litre of soft drink a day to put on weight, but it's not working. Apparently, an entire bottle only has around 400 calories. I don't know how the fat cunts do it, they must be chugging over 2L a day. I’m thinking about starting GOMAD instead.
>>537529478Just eat fairy bread 3x a day as snacks inbetween meals. Carbs that digest quickly. Fast food. People having a hard time GAINING weight are mentally ill as well.
>>537528562>it's extremely easy to eat a lot of extra carbs (unlike fat and protein)1g of fat has 9 calories. It's easier to overeat than any other food.
>>537529588Fat and protein are satiating unlike carbs. You can basically continue eating unlimited carbs while fat and protein will make you feel full and unable to eat more.
>>537528228>eating conscious animals for pleasure, since meat is not needed for survival in this dayVegtards get the rope."It is interesting to note that humans, uniquely among the primates so far considered, appear to have stomach pH values more akin to those of carrion feeders than to those of most carnivores and omnivores. In the absence of good data on the pH of other hominoids, it is difficult to predict when such an acidic environment evolved. Baboons (Papio spp) have been argued to exhibit the most human–like of feeding and foraging strategies in terms of eclectic omnivory, but their stomachs – while considered generally acidic (pH = 3.7) – do not exhibit the extremely low pH seen in modern humans (pH = 1.5). One explanation for such acidity may be that carrion feeding was more important in humans (and more generally hominin) evolution than currently considered to be the case [...]" - ["The Evolution of Stomach Acidity and Its Relevance to the Human Microbiome" (2015)](https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0134116)
>>537529570My maintenance calories are around 3,000 and I can only eat twice a day.
>>537529728There is a limit to the amount of glucose (carbs) your body can store. There is no limit to how much fat your body can store.
>>537528228Everyone so dumbYou lose weight by calorie deficitLiterally all it is, eat less than you burn and you lose excess weightDoesnt matter meat vs carb
>>537529588>1g of fat has 9 calories. It's easier to overeat than any other food.It's impossible to overeat, once you completely stop eating carbs.Try it, Bubba.
>>537529833How is that relevant? Excess carbs just get turned into fat.
>>537528714>carbs make you lose weight, keto makes you lose weight, mediterranean diet makes you lose weightOnly if you maintain an over all calorie deficit. Barring wierd hormonal disorders a calorie deficit is the ONLY way to lose weight. The only reason any of these fad diets or even GLP1s work is because they induce a calorie deficit.You can gain weight by simply eating more.Also the OP girl owes me sex.
>>537529877>Excess carbs just get turned into fat.What do you think happens to the fat you eat?
>>537529953How is that relevant?
Meat marketers immediately spamming their dumbass material itt
>>537528228>CarbsNothing wrong with bread, noodles and potatoes. Starch is ok.Short chain sugars are bad, fructose especially. Unfortunately industrial food contains tons of sugar.
>>537530000You seem to be saying that the carbs you eat get turned into fat, but the fat you eat which is already fat just disappears.
>>537529916The point of a diet is to make living with a continuous calorie deficit bearable.
>>537529860this. if you eat only vegetables and meat you literally cant get fat. if you eat only complex carbs like beans iwith meat and vegetables its also nearly impossible to get fat. most fat people today are eating sugary drinks, alcohol, and simple carbs daily without physical exertion to burn the extra calories
>>537529379Chopped carrots, celery, cabbage, kale, baby spinach, cauliflower, sometimes other stuff like radishes if I feel like it. Salad dressing just tastes like greasy slime to me and ruins the whole thing.>>537529478If you had a relatively stable weight on your regular diet, and you're adding 400 calories, you should start slowly gaining weight. Unless your activity has increased as well, then you'll need more. If you're an athlete, you can eat like a fat fuck and not gain weight. I used to eat about 3500 calories a day when I played sports and lifted, and I had a six pack. I can't do that anymore though since I sit in an office, I would be a hamplanet.Milkshakes are probably your best bet. They're nutritionally better than sodaslop as well.
>>537530111No. I'm saying you feel full when eating fat/protein because it's satiating while you don't feel full when eating carbs so can eat too much (excess calories)
>>537529454Keto was just a neat tool to help fatties lose weight while not feeling on the verge of dying the whole time by abusing the fact that fat provides high long term satiety. Like everything else it got meme'd into some insane religion. Force those tubs of shit on Ozempic. Either they become human or die; either way it's a win.
>>537528228>wtf I went on vacation and I'm walking around everywhere and I'm losing weight
>>537528228It is sad. If thy would at least admit they eat it just because they like it and it tastes good, it wouod be fine. But instead make up a lie and try to gaslught yourself and others that carnivore is the ideal diet...just die already.
>>537528343Yeah
>>537529831Why can you only eat twice per day? let me guess; some bullshit excuse. Just eat bro. Literally just put food inside your mouth and chew.
>>537528228Americans have to avoid carbs because there's sugar inserted into fucking everything, whereas that's not the case in civilized countries. Japanese "sweets" have less sugar than normal American food.
>>537529916Hormones won’t override thermodynamics. You’ll always lose weight if you’re eating a deficit. That line is fatty cope
>>537529859every "calories in calories out" retard that ive encountered had zero muscle tone in their limbs with a big old gut protruding out. you will age like milk and plateau in any athletic output/workout routine if you follow this diet. ketotards and vegantrannies at least tend to eat quality food unlike the npcs who think counting calories is sufficient while eating pizza and sandwhihces all day.
>>537530221So it's not possible to eat excess calories from fat?
>>537530210>all vegetablesNice. What about cheese?When I make a bean salad I make my own dressing with apple cider vinegar, lemon juice, olive oil, and spices. I would recommend
>>537530481If your problem is eating 10000 calories in one meal, eating fat won't change that.If it is needing a "snack" every hour you're awake, it can help.
>>537530481>So it's not possible to eat excess calories from fat?No, Bubba.It would feel like torture and you'd stop doing it really fast.You should try ketosis for a month. See for yourself what a proper human diet feels like.
>>537530676When humanity invents a cheat code to losing weight, the universe will provide a bigger fatass. Like the fat faggots not losing weight on ozempic because they literally force feed themselves.
>>537530339I've got dogshit appetite and I'm out of the house from morning till night with uni, work, and gym, so I only get to eat breakfast and dinner. I don't want to drop $150 a week on buying food while I'm out
>>537530774Where do boiled potatoes fall on the Satiety Index? And how does that compare with butter or oil?
>>537530481It's much harder but also depends on the fat and what it's attached to. If you were to eat a very fatty piece of fish or meat then you'd feel really fucking full and unable to eat more, even if the caloric amount isn't a lot. You could however easily eat 1000-1500 calories of potato chips in one sitting without achieving the same satiating effect.
>>537528343walking does almost nothing for weight loss
>>537530774You underestimate the insanity of hamplanets. They'll eat till they're full, and then keep eating until there's physically no more space for food inside their bodies, and then keep eating as space slowly becomes available. They defeated keto, roux-en-y gastrectomies, and even ozempic. Their problems are deeply psychological and no amount of satiety will stop them.
>>537528343A single combo meal from Taco Bell is enough calories to run a marathon. It's not the exercise, it's the food. Back in the 1980s plenty of people worked office jobs and were not obese. Cities were hellholes in the 1980s so people weren't walking to the office from home. The human body is very efficient in how it uses calories, which is bad if you try to lose fat with exercise.
>>537530445I mean thin people who cant digest food properly. The fatty cope is that it's the thyroid that makes them fat.
>more walking>less mindless snacking>more whole ingredients>less sugar>less preservativesdid you know they still won't say that sugar causes type 2 diabetes? elevated blood sugar is merely a "comorbidity." meanwhile children drink full sugar soda instead of water.
>>537530976If you spend an extra 5 hours or so a day walking for 2 weeks straight rather than sitting at home then you'll definitely burn a decent amount of calories.
>>537528228she's probably doing a lot of walkingalso the food has regular flour and sugar and not enriched, bleached flour and corn syrup
What retards fail to realize is the carbs have fucking protein in them in the form of gluten. And some flours or grains have high levels. Fuck the Romans in their bread even had God damn high levels of fiber that's only achievable with leafy greens. Bring that shit back. Any good bread recommendations?
>>537531118This.A 20min walk after dinner won't probably do much, but serious exercise does definitely help a lot. When I did 30+ km bike tours once a week I definitely lost weight.
>>537530932Potato chips are mostly fat, which is why they place low on the Satiety Index.
>>537531003>You underestimate the insanity of hamplanets. They'll eat till they're full, and then keep eating until there's physically no more space for food inside their bodies, and then keep eating as space slowly becomes available.I'm telling you this is not possible during ketosis.Once the metabolism switches from glucose to ketonic bodies, it's game over.Not only there is no pleasure in overeating, like with carbs, but you stop being hungry more than once a day.With an extremely stable glycaemia level, eating when you're not hungry starts feeling like a chore, and then as torture.No matter your habits and addictions, you will stop doing it.Try it and see for yourself.
>>537531118The only reason americans are out of shape is that they spend zero time on their feet. At home, they are on their sofa. They commute by sitting in their car. At work or school, they sit at a desk. The American can easily spend less than an hour per day standing. In fact, for most Americans, walking to the store is incredibly difficult due to both niggers and urban design. All of the stuff about food is a gigantic psyop. There are plenty of hood niggers eating nothing but junk food and dollar store groceries that are in great shape because they spend all day roaming the hood looking for victims. The only reason Americans are shaped the way they are shaped is that they spend their entire lives sitting on their ass or lying in bed.
>>537530976walking is the best way to burn fat
It literally requires 0 effort to lose weight. Just stop eating. You don't even need to exercise
>>537531355>the carbs have fucking protein in themAmeritard education...
>>537530830You have to eat more than twice a day, that's by far easier than packing on a bigger breakfast and dinner. Just eat some cheap snacks throughout the day. Chips or cookies or whatever, nice and easy.
>>537531569>Celiac diseased yuro detected
>>537531442And I'm telling you, as an avid user of ketosis, that these butterballs aren't constrained by physical hunger or satiety. If the food can physically fit inside their bodies then in it goes. They have demonstrated this on innumerable occasions.
>>537528403based Spain for eating too much meat!
>>537530976I burned 1300 cal today, just because the weather was nice so I walked the dog a few hour
>>537531659sounds like a good way to get diabetes
>>537530830>>537531659And get a tub of icecream for dessert. Always eat dessert.
>>537528228>what is walking
>>537531853Eating some cookies every day when you're thin and live an active lifestyle is unlikely to be a problem.
>>537530976found the actual unironic subtard. kek. of course it's a memeflag jeet, no fucking wonder
>>537531019Calories is just a gigantic psyop. There are plenty of bodybuilders who look like they can barely walk. The body gets good at what it is demanded of it. When an Italian walks around all day because his city is walkable and full of Italians, his body becomes good at walking. When an American spends all day at a desk, then in a car, then on a sofa, his body becomes good at sitting. That includes not just giant fat chunky thighs but also a bent over spine. It is painfully obvious that the majority of America's health problems stem from spending an average of less than an hour per day on their own two feet. Our ancestors probably spent at least 8 hours per day on their feet. Stop looking at calories like the body is a math equation, (you are measuring food by how much energy it can generate when burned in a fire), start looking at what peoples bodies are good at doing. Anyone with an ounce of common sense can see that american body shapes are good at what americans do, which is sit on their fat asses, and they are bad at what americans do not do, which is stand and walk on their own two feet. Every single urban area in america is full of rail thin ghetto niggers who eat nothing but fast food, gas station food, and dollar store food, who are in great shape because they spend all day roaming the hood. Meanwhile, upper middle class neighborhoods are full of pear shaped boomers who buy their groceries at whole foods, but commute to desk jobs their SUVs and then come home and watch netflix.
>>537530210You can just make your own dressing, it's very simple. Olive oil, balsamic vinegar, salt, pepper. Garlic and dijon if you want to be fancy. You can adjust quantities to suit your tastes and you don't need much of it. Storebought stuff is disgusting and I don't blame you for hating it
>>537531734Wouldn't be a problem if they were eating potatoes.
>>537530830>>537531659>>537531875You can also do nuts. Peanuts are basically free and 620 kcal per 100g.
>>537531875Have you noticed that it's borderline impossible to buy ice cream that's just ice cream anymore? I now have to make all my own ice cream because even the absurdly expensive brands, for some inexplicable fucking reason, use gums as their thickeners instead of egg yolk.
>>537531978Are you aware that simply standing doesn't burn any more calories than sitting?
>>537528228>portions aren't 1kg>you lose weight wowzers
>>537530457They measure calories by burning food in a calorimeter and calculating how much energy is produced.https://www.livescience.com/62808-how-calories-are-calculated.html>This tool directly measures the amount of energy that a food contains, said Ruth MacDonald, professor and chair of food science and human nutrition at Iowa State University. To use this tool, scientists place the food in question in a sealed container surrounded by water and heat it until the food is completely burned off. Scientists then record the rise in water temperature to determine the number of calories in the product.I am sorry, but if you measure food by calories, you are a retard.
>>537530976Yeah? So doing 300 pushups, which is moving your body weight 300 times would be considered a large amount of volume…but moving your body weight 300 times by stepping isn’t a form of exercise? There are Americans who legitimately don’t even reach 1000 steps a day. Think about how bad that is for their health.
>>537532201How do you measure food then?
>>537532040And yet...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFGH0hBVaU0
>>537528228My grandmother (my fathers side) died at he age of 99 (almost 100) peacefully in her sleep while suffering none of the common illnesses of this day like alzeimers, high blood sugar or pressure, diabetes, dementia, etc ... her memory worked better than mine, she could climbed trees and pick fruits, she was extremely thin, and of course much happier than i am, lived a happy fulfilling life, died rather rich, had a large flat. farms, gold necklaces and etc ... she only ate meat broth and cheese.My mothers side: all of her family suffer from diabetes, i too am overweight, they all have blood pressure, grandmother died at 62 from multiple complications, grandpa had stroke at 96 and used to regularly visited doctor, all off her family suffer from various mental illnesses stress, depression, low self esteem, narcissism, low-level schizophrenia, all of them are stupid and sheepish people, treated me and their other kids like animals, kids also suffer from stress and depression because of that, frequent and permanent customers of cardiologist, took the vaccines (i didn't ;) ) poor, bitter, sick and frail, total losersMain source of nutrition ? bread and vegetarian foods That's all i needed to know, and not from your church of science but from real life examples .
>>537532137Being on your feet is harder than sitting. There are palace guards which stand outside of palaces for 10 hours straight. If you made your typical American do this, his body would rapidly adapt to become good at it by losing the huge amount of fat in his ass and belly and straightening his spine. It is incredibly rare to see americans with a straight spine, usually any white person with a straight spine in this cunt is a ukrainian refugee (since those are the only europeans desperate enough to come here)
>>537530457So you’re telling me that every professional athlete, competitive lifer, bodybuilder, endurance athlete and Olympian is a retard because they follow a strict caloric plan that specifies not just calories but specific macros? Got it ledditman.
>>537532201>>537531978Yes your body is just magic. Science isn't real
>>537532120>use gums as their thickeners instead of egg yolk.Is it really that big of a problem? at least we don't get the American "ice cream" they have to call frozen dessert because it's some kind of chemical experiment.
>>537528228carbs alone is not the answeri bake flatbread homemade pizzas several times per week and have a BMI of 22
>>537528228Serving sizes, bitch probably eats like a pig here. I follow serving sizes and faggots i know say I'm starving myself because my meals aren't 3k calories each. Americans are fucking stupid.
>>537530976lmao nobody tell him
>>537529260While our food is full of awful shit, none of it magically creates fat out of nothing. Americans just eat massive piles of slop. Go look at the calorie count on any meal served anywhere, most of them are two meals worth of calories. The poison they put in it mostly just gives you cancer, doesn't make you fat. Fatties will throw out every excuse for why their fat, only a few will admit it's their excessive eating and those are the few who will lose weight.
>>537528228I don't know what kind of phenotype this is but how'd she get over there? She has that jungle latina forehead slope and the negress hairstyle with asian eyes and baboon ears.
>>537528228True, OP. Same thing happened in bodybuilding/fitness and that’s why every brand advertises how much protein is in their product.
>>537532279>cheesy fried potatoes are the same thing as boiled potatoesYou have to be trying to be dishonest at this point.
>>537532308It's harder on your joints, but you aren't burning more calories.
>>537532638Americans dont even eat that much, they just literally never use their bodies for anything.
>>537532804https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SavsJYXWgm8&t=75s
Probs the first time in her life she wasnt bombarded with sneed oils and fuggin HFCS at every waking moment and meal
>>537532213K pls walk on handstand 300 steps and tell me how you feel, retard; apples to oranges muscle groups and basic design function
>>537532804She consumes 2700lbs of potatoes per year which works out to 2600kcal per fucking day in potatoes alone on a TDEE that would, at a normal weight, likely be 1500kcal. She'd be a ghee goblin even without the cheese. Spare me your bullshit. Fats gonna fat.
>>537529374>the plate would have 3-4x more pasta on it.and 10x the oil, meat and cheese.american flour products normally have bromine in them, which is why they make you fat in the usa. it affects your thyroid and slows your metabolism. they only just recently banned it from soda. usa is the only place left in the world that allows this in the foodpic related is an ad for a bromine tonic to make your skinny babby a fat babbyyou can overeat on carbs all you want, the human body is terrible at storing carbs as fat. fat, on the other hand, needs to be stored as body fat first, before being used. and protein gives you no useable calories, no food energy. fat and animal protein cause insulin resistance, we have known this for over a century. sugar reverses it.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1394223/?page=1>>537529454calorie deficit always results in gaining the weight back, plus more. it trains the body to store fat. it also releases cortisol, which also causes insulin resistance and a whole host of other health problems. the secret is to eat as much as you want, but no added fat or things like nuts/avocado, no meat, and lots of carbs. even table sugar, which cannot make you fat. https://youtu.be/rUWcgh5Ju9g
Here is a chart showing the % of dietary energy from carbs of Europoor countries
>>537529135Checked. The faggot works in tandem with mainstream media- a kike or golem to..OP doesnt realize US food is literally poison.Normies move to extremes in an attempt to counter the heaping chemical poisoning thrust upon US Citizens. I have to produce and consume my own- as much as I can to reverse the effects of Jewish corporate crime.
Carnicucks and ketocucks are retarded
>>537533219Ok that's illegible, here is the data
>>537528228Its simply about the amount of calories. If you eat around 1200 kcal in carbs you're going to lose weight. The issue is that protein and fats are more important, carbs are just energy. Great for a workout but on an off-day? I try to stick to mainly protein.
>>537533218Kys
>>537532426Gums wreak havoc on your gut biome but it's probably fine as long as you don't consume excessive amounts of it. It just chaps my ass that it's seemingly impossible to buy the exact thing that's been called ice cream for centuries, and I also don't really like the texture.
>>537529728this is the opposite of the truthfoods with fat in them are known to be addictive, which is why they add fat to all kinds of things.sugar turns off the hunger signals the fastest>Boiled potatoes are widely considered the most satiating food in the Satiety Index, a scale developed by the University of Sydney to measure how full people feel after eating various foods. In the landmark 1995 study, boiled potatoes scored 323, significantly higher than the baseline white bread (100) and far outpacing other common foods like oatmeal (209), fish (225), and eggs (150). >This high satiety is attributed to potatoes' low energy density, high water content (approx. 77%), and volume, which stretches the stomach and signals fullness to the brain. The effect is most pronounced when potatoes are boiled or baked and consumed with the skin; cooking methods that add fat, such as frying, significantly reduce their satiating properties. so adding fat makes them less satiating, and more likely to be "overeaten"more about taters>Research on long-term metabolic ward studies of potatoes is limited, with controlled feeding trials typically lasting 8 weeks rather than years. The most extensive controlled study, a randomized equivalence trial, compared a potato-based diet to a bean-based diet over 8 weeks in individuals with insulin resistance. >This study found that the potato diet reduced body weight and improved insulin resistance (HOMA-IR) without needing calorie restriction, largely due to the high dietary fiber and low energy density of the food. The results contradicted some epidemiological data by showing potatoes did not adversely affect glycemic responses when consumed in a controlled settingso if you eat those unholy, high glycemic index WHITE potatoes, you lose weight and cure diabetes.
She lost weight walking everywhere
>>537530195>without physical exertion to burn the extra caloriesyour brain is the biggest consumer of energy. exercise is a piddle in the ocean in comparison. it also has very little effect on weight losshttps://www.scientificamerican.com/article/does-exercise-help-you-lose-weight-heres-the-latest-in-that-debate/people just like to ascribe negative character traits to fat people, when most of them have tried every diet under the sun, and eat significantly less calories than a naturally skinny person that never puts on weight. caloric deficits lead to obesity.
>>537529478>>537529831Thats why you don't get fat, you are maximising autophagy eating only twice a day, the way you eat can change it alot.Autophagy is the process by which your body eat its own cells to produce energy, including fats. Its highly reduced during digestion and increase slowly after that.By eating a large amount of food in a single time your body has to spend energy to store the energy, in fats and then it will have to spend more energy to get it back from the fat. And since you spend more time without eating, your autophagic activity is increased.On the contrary people who get fat tend to eat often, and so keep the autophagic process very low.That's one of the reason i think French or Italians tend to be leaner, we do large long pastes rather than small snackings
>>537533433>>537533203https://caloriesfit.com/how-many-calories-do-football-players-eat-a-day/>Elite footballers usually eat 3,000–4,500 calories per day, with match days pushing intake higher to match energy use.It is not about calories. First of all, calories are a retarded way of measuring food. They measure calories by burning it in a machine and seeing how much energy is produced. 100 grams of pine wood has 20 calories. Okay? Calories is literally measured in a device called a bomb calormiter which burns the food and measures the energy.https://www.livescience.com/62808-how-calories-are-calculated.htmlSecondly, even if we are looking at calories, a footballer eats 3000-4500 calories per day, which is far more than what Americans eat. For some footballers they are vegan, others are carnivore, others eat tons of pasta, others eat fast food with seed oils. They are in great shape because they spend all day exercising. Every American city is full of hood niggers in great shape because they actually move their bodies. It is also full of hood niggers shaped like potatoes because they sit on couches and do nothing. Food is not why Americans are shaped like giant sacks of shit. There are sack shaped Americans on every conceivable dietary plan and level of caloric intake. What they all have in common is they spend all day sitting on their big fat asses and probably spend less than an hour per day on their feet. Our ancestors probably spent 8 hours per day on their feet at least.
american carbs are a different breedthey literally have lower standards for flour so much that some bread recipes straight up dont work with their shitty flourany time i go there i dont shit for days
>>537530976>retarded post by the gayest memeflagmany such cases
Here is a better version without micro countries and including the US, Canada and Mexico.There is no correlation whatsoever between % of calories from carbohydrates and BMI.
>>537533830Okay, and how many hours per day are you on your feet?
>>537528228>eats like a serf>surprised to lose weightwhat was it like to live in a society with people that weren't absolute npcs? I was born in the 80s, too young to have experienced such an age.
>>537532328nice strawman faggot. calories are one piece of the puzzle, not the full picture. nutritions/macros, water intake, supplementation, and timing in relationship to other meals/exercise/rest are all extremely important variables. You can be obsese and suffering from malnutrition because the majority of your caloric intake is from extremely processed sodas or alcohol.
>>537533830okay tubby
>>537530445>Hormones won’t override thermodynamicsthey don't need to. you are assuming the only way to expend energy is through jogging or deadlifts. your body turns the excess sugar to heat. >>537531077checkit doesn't cause diabetes at all. fat does. >>537531355checkpic related
>>537533884Potatoes are basically just starch. You digest all of it. Sportsmen in general burn an enormous amount of energy. Look at Tour de France riders. They consume 8000+kcal per day and end up on borderline 0% bodyfat at the end of it. She's a couch potato and she'd be a blob on a diet consisting of nothing but the potatoes she's currently eating because she's forcing that shit into her gaping maw as often as she possibly can. I sure as shit can't eat >3kg of potatoes in a day but that does not make it impossible, as Hamantha there proves.
>>537533218I can't believe retards like you try to give other people advice. You're a double nigger.
>>537533884>What they all have in common is they spend all day sitting on their big fat asses and probably spend less than an hour per day on their feetkek but its pretty much this.Its just about balancing what you spend that's all. Professional cyclist eat 500cals of sugar every hour on a race day, they don't gain an inch of fat. You can get that fat in carbs, lipids, or proteins, it just change how efficiently they can be used.
>>537533134K now do a 225lb squat after solely benching 3 plates for 5 years. The muscle groups LE…….ADAPT? Le exercising an unadapted muscle group by exercising (walking)…..LE BURNS MORE CALORIES? Don’t ever raise your voice to me again you filthy fucking shitskin.
>>537534225Sure sure bud but if all things being equal but one fatty eats 100 calories less than the other fatty for a prolonged period the -100 fatty will lose weight. Cope and suck my taint dry while you’re down there you little shitskin nigger.
>>537534302Your average obese american doesnt eat a huge amount of food. They just literally do nothing all day. And this is mostly due to cars and an absence of manual labor. This problem is widespread in my cunt. It is extremely rare to see wypipo here over the age of 40 that are not shaped like Sully from Monsters Inc. And the reason is they drive to work, sit at a desk (or behind a wheel), drive home, sit on a couch, and then lie in a bed. At best they may do some sort of half hearted gym exercise or dog walk for an hour a few times a week. You can see from looking at their bodies and the way they stand that walking and supporting their own weight ("standing") is physically exhausting for them and they can only do it in short bursts. They are evolved to sit their giant asses on various forms of furniture. And then they come here and cope about muh sneed oils muh carbs etc.
>>537528228https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8TCxtl1qwEPotential domestic terrorists exist among us at this very moment. There are deranged individuals screaming on the Internet they are going to "fucking snap" and "commit a mass shooting right now". The FBI knows these people exist and refuses to prosecute them. Is it because the FBI doesn't want to protect us? Does the FBI want these sick people follow through with their terroristic threats? None of this makes any sense.
>>537534610>You have an amerifat and an Angl* at the same weight (160lbs)>You give one 3400 calories and you give the other 3800 calories >Neither exercise Will they look the same after 365 days?
>>537534302>She's a couch potato and she'd be a blob on a diet consisting of nothing but the potatoes she's currently eating because she's forcing that shit into her gaping maw as often as she possibly can.the fat from the cheese keeps the hunger signals going. as i posted before, potatoes induce satiety better than any other food. they do not make you fat. i already posted a study which shows that people that ate nothing but potatoes for 8 weeks straight cured diabetes and lost weight.this guy knew the literature on potatoes like nobody else. this is a 2 part, multi hour presentation on everything potato. i've watched it a few times. https://youtu.be/v60u4plA1TAhttps://youtu.be/NhGG9ihM4xQ>>537534310i'm a 128 dimensional tessellated nigger
>>537534960The Anglo will be skinnier because he walks three miles per day to go to the corner shop and pub, while the American will become morbidly obese because he uses his Ford F450 mobility scooter to travel half a mile to the grocery store and then another half a mile to his workplace and then a final half mile back home.
>>537535119You either didn’t read or chose to ignore the >neither exercise part so you’re either a nigger or a product of the public education system. Either way may god have mercy on your dumb nigger soul.
American carb is goyslop.European carb is carb.
>>537528228Why is this Greek flag always spamming incel shit everyday for yearsI can’t get laid either but damn bro lol
>>537531416They always do shit like include brown pasta, when we all know wheat pasta tastes like fucking dogshit.
>>537528358Most men here don't do keto, but they still become fat, bald, low T slobs as they age. I tried keto for a bit and it was the one time in my life I had visible abs and a v-cut / adonis belt.
>>537532638I dunno. You guys put corn syrup in your bread and use vegetable oil for everything I think.In the north here it's all butter, in the south it's olive oil and all the bread is salt+flour+yeast+water.
>>537528228Enjoy bleaching the dark spots from your armpits, asshole, crotch, and lower extremities. Later comes cancer, so I hope getting lean was really worth it.
>>537535222I dont get your point. Are you trying to say that Americas obesity crisis is because of calories in? I am saying it is because of calories out. https://caloriesfit.com/how-many-calories-do-football-players-eat-a-day/>Elite footballers usually eat 3,000–4,500 calories per day, with match days pushing intake higher to match energy use.They literally eat more than a hamplanet. So why aren't they shaped like shit?
>>537535093And I will reiterate for god knows what time: fats don't eat because they're hungry, they eat because they're physically capable of fitting more food inside them. Some of them will literally tell you this unprompted to your face, as if you're the retard for not literally stuffing yourself at the buffet. A normal sedentary human being couldn't consume 10000kcal in pure sugar or fat per day and yet there are galaxy guts pushing that shit back on the daily.
>>537534302Big Dumb take. She'd get fatty liver.
>>537535285And you treat your oats with chlormequat (banned substance in America except on imports for some reason).>Potential health concerns from chlormequat exposure include reproductive and developmental toxicity, with animal studies suggesting reduced fertility and possible harm to the developing fetus at relatively low doses.
>>537535374A trait of being white is not needing to be told what point is being made because you understand it with the specific information being given. There are other country’s that are incredibly obese that are not American. What do they share in common with Americans? Their excessive intake of calories. Your average human is not going to burn 4000 calories a day as they are not an athlete. That shouldn’t need to be said. Your average human should reduce their consumption of calories to a “normal” amount which is clearly more in line with what Europeans consume vs Americans. What else do I need to spoon feed you for niggerboy? Do you need help understanding my post? Do me a favor and run it to through an AI first since your critical thinking is non-existent.
>>537530976it does about as much as running
>>537528403pork supremacy
>>537535776Well I don't eat oats nor do I know anyone who do. Everyone here eats bread and only sand niggers consume veg oil in a quantity that matters.
>>537528228the weird thing is I didn't change my diet, even had a breakfast donut this morning but I stop consuming most process foods, got on Metformin (For prediabetus) and im 0.01 from normal range and have lost 17 pounds without ozempa crap.I was told to eat whole wheat pasta like they do in Italy and al-dente (spell check) because the overcooked white pasta bleeds out nasty shit that causes you to bloatBloating is not the cause of over-eating but from an allergic reaction which fucks your blood vessels and heart valves upthe idea is to stop eating shit that causes you to swell up
>>537535942Bro go outside and tell me what Americans look like to you. What I see are big fat hamplanets that use mobility scooters to travel half a mile to work or school. Have you ever even tried walking in this country? There's niggers, and also all of the infrastructure over the past 100 years has been designed to make pedestrianism impossible. I really expect the same phenomenon to occur in Europe now that their walkable cities are being subjugated by niggers. The whiteoids will flee to hard to access suburbs, and will then turn into hamplanets, which is what happened to Americans.
>>537528228Americans think pizza and burgers are carbs, despite them being like 60%+ fat by caloric intake. Then as a result think carbs make you fat. Nobody ever got fat eating plain potatoes or rice.
>>537529443It's 100% diet. You can lay in bed all day and fast and lose weight.>>537530830Pack a lunch bro. Eat after work / between uni classes / instead of masturbating between gym sets because the gym chad keeps teasing you and you don't want to deal with a boner during your next set and you've already asked him several times to leave you alone but he thinks you're cute when your frustrated. It's easy.>>537531569Take a look at the nutritional label of any loaf of bread. If you try to give me the italian cope of "but mon cherie, all mon bread is from le bakerie!" then look at a bag of flour. It's not as much as meat or fish of course, but there's protein there.>>537532120I can't suggest any alternatives to this, but the best thing that happened to me was losing my sweet tooth. Now my "desserts" are milk and yogurt. Occasionally fruit.
>>537532120People fear egg yolk in ICE cream because of salmonella and companies want to cater to vegans.Personally I don't see xanthan gum as a big problem, but generally there's too many ingredients in everything.
>>537536765>It's 100% diet. You can lay in bed all day and fast and lose weight.Yeah, or you can eat 6000 calories a day and be jacked as fuck. But you will never be jacked as fuck from lying in bed, no matter how few calories you eat. There are Americans who eat 1000 calories a day (a calorie: a measurement of how much energy you get when you burn a piece of food in a machine) who are out of shape, and there are Americans who eat 6000 calories a day who can run 15 miles no sweat. This whole calories argument is just a gigantic excuse for why Americans have a lifestyle of sitting on their buttcheeks. This lifestyle is so entrenched that the infrastructure is designed around it, like wall-e. In America you drive your truck if you wanna go half a mile to the grocery store.
The main thing that most people arguing "it's diet! you need to lessen calories!" and "it's exercise! you fat fucks need to move more!" seem to be overlooking is the importance of fiber. Fiber is removed from all processed foods for the most part because it doesn't store / freeze / reheat well. Fiber changes your gut microbiome, which also thus contributes to the depression epidemic. It interacts with dietary sugar in the body as well, and it affects cancer rates by not getting enough.It also reduces hunger by filling your stomach without being absorbed nearly as much as other food (some is, some isn't).Decide for yourself whether you want to eat less or move more (both is preferable), but definitely eat more fiber.>>537532299Cheese is vegetarian though...
>>537537166You are not wrong, but you are making a separate argument. The topic of discussion was obesity, not physical fitness.You can be skinny and physically unfit, and you can be physically fit and fat (note I'm not saying healthy, but you can have lots of muscle, with lots of fat layering over it).Is it better to change lifestyle to become more physically fit? Sure. However diet is something that can be changed with no change in lifestyle and is easier for people to adopt / start with, which, given the health impacts of obesity regardless of other signals of fitness, is very important.
>>537537533The american body is morphologically designed to do what the american does, as the anon you first rejected laid out. The American sits on his couch, in his car, at his workplace, and then lies in bed. I would be surprised if he spends more than an hour a day on average on his own two feet. It is painfully obvious looking at American boomers simply from the shape of their spine that they spend all day in a reclined position. It does not really matter how many calories (a unit measuring the energy a food item produces when burned in a calorimeter, such as 100 g of pine wood producing 20 calories) a person eats or what quality they are when he lives like this. And the reasons why it is like this can be basically summed up as being cars and niggers. If people are rich enough to live in a niggerproof neighborhood like this one, they will if anything spend even less time on their feet than the urban poor as they proceed from their 2 car garage to their workplace where they are also sedentary and back again over and over for years.
>>537528228Carbs, barbs, all I won’t to know is who taught this monkey how to use utensils.
>>537530976this, it does fucking nothing and doesn't substantially improve your health compared to any kind of real exercise let alone the gold standard of resistance + interval training. Walking is not exercise and you won't become healthy by walking all day you'll destroy your body. Glyphosate additives and preservatives in American wheat products cause inflammation illness and weight gain. That's the problem the quality of the wheat products in NA is poisonous. Anybody near a normal weight who is on their feet at work will improve almost nothing by trying to reach this arbitrary step count meme. You need to lift and train your heart to regulate between exertion levels and stay far the fuck away from non organic food especially wheat.A reminder that American ranchers use a product called Ractopamine that causes animals to artificially grow more lean muscle tissue which becomes fibrous disgusting low quality meat. Ractopamine is banned in EU China Russia functionally the entire planet and they feed this shit to you.
>>537538042>A reminder that American ranchers use a product called Ractopamine that causes animals to artificially grow more lean muscle tissue which becomes fibrous disgusting low quality meat. Ractopamine is banned in EU China Russia functionally the entire planet and they feed this shit to you.intredasting. I wasn't aware of this.
>>537528403>israel>poultrythere was no way that they were gonna waste the chicken after transferring their sins to it
>>537533229Yup. Lots of long-winded threads on the subject, thousands of hours of podcasts, hundreds of books, and it's as simple as all the food getting sprayed with glyphosate, then injected with cancerous dyes.
>>537528228Why would europeans want to stay alive to get raped by pakis and indians? Enjoy your long life where brown dicks are stuffed into your every orifice forcefully. Your wives, daughters, sons, and even yourself will be raped mercilessly by paki mud cocks, as seen in the rape report.
>>537538689The USDA does not protect you from shit. It protects the industry and it protects itself and doesn't give a shit about the American consumer. The only reason they enforce bare bones safety regulations is so it looks like they're doing their job. Kvetching and screaming about the possibility of botulism from Joe Schmoe selling homemade canned goods while giving the the meat industry a free pass to put whatever growth hormones they want in the meat, and for corporate farms to sell you cancerous GMO products.
>>537537330If you tell vegans that it's made of milk which comes from animals hopefully some of them will kill themselvesGenerally i trust my instincts and body, whjatever makes it happy i eat it, red meat brings back my good mood, my teeth stay cleaner and after a while my belly shrinks, in combination with yogurt and milk it literally makes me feel healthy. also my libido drives up nicely.
>>537540667>>537537330Also i've completely stopped consuming seed oils (they're made of petroleum anyway!) only use butter, made my toothache go away ! and i have more energy during day, eat less too.
>>537540454Thank you for your service.
