https://x.com/Patrickwebb/status/2068701360380334237
>>537531827Since 2012 actually.Old ass news.
>>537531827It is always a possibility. This is why drive by wire should never have been a thing. Same with planes. You really think the kill switch was accidentally put in there?
>>537531942Ditto for the teslas. That's already happened with those. What I'm wondering though it what's the cutoff point? are you ok in a 2011?
>>537531827shit like this is basically common sense if u understand electronics, and its not "some shadow group" can do this, is just that the tech is straight up vulnerable to this so anyone can do it, and this guy is basically using the funy buzzword abbreviation. u can put any demographic's boogeyman into that slot in his sentence and it remains true. example:>the jew can allegedly take control of vehicles by hacking into their computer systems and crash them, according to former jew officer john kiriakou
>>537531827Source: some dude on twitter
we've known about this since 2013 when they killed paul walker
>past 10believable. hastings got wrapped around a tree in 2013
>>537531827Emphasis on "ANY." It has been "MOST" for decades.
>>537532145Anything with onstar or other similar capabilities can be hacked in this way.
try hacking my dacia logan CIA cucksyou can't even defeat iranpathetic mutts
>>537532251right it was walker who got the tree, hastings had his blown up after losing control
>>537531827Kiriakou is full of shit. He’s such a pussy and every podcast he does he has all these new stories where he was like james bond basically. If he even worked at the CIA, he was doing banal paperwork 99% of the time.
plz mr/ms cia people stop killing american citizens for israel
Probably how the CIA killed this guy to protect Israel for some reason. I doubt anyone of you zoomers even know who he is, his name has been scrubbed from history.
>>537531827Since 2020, for many, but not all. But most, in the last two yrs. OnStar doesn't have the ability to be utilized to access power train modules. Which is what's required to remotely access the controls of a vehicle. That said, you can completely remove Onstar from your vehicle. You can also completely disable anything that captures data and stores it within the vehicle. For the most part the only thing that has had the ability to capture data since 2010 is the airbag module. Which is also very limited to what it can capture and how long. None of this has really been a threat to the vast majority of every day vehicles, up until the last couple yrs. 100% grid connected EV stuff should be something you avoid no matter what year it was made, if you're concerned with remote access by nefarious actors.~T. does things with vehicle telemetry for monies
I can control reality with my mind, so cut it out, CIA
>>537532445He studied languages at a bottom ranked university while everyone else who works there studied at top schools and did wellHe has the same inability to grasp government power Snowden did, and Snowden also did not have the pedigree to do any politicking, so both just denounced government altogether to feel superior
>>537531827Michael Hastings agrees.
>>537531827so glad I drive a non-"smart"car.
>>537532318I didn't think about it but it occurs to me that any car with a drive by wire throttle could be hacked and forced all the way open. I think you should make sure your car has a cable throttle just to be safe.
>>537536115>Snowden"Snowden" was a CIA op to save their boy King Nigger - who was just about to get impeached when "Snowden" magically appears, "reveals" nothing that hadn't been known for 10 years, and implicates the CIA's arch rival the NSA.The (((MSM))) used "Snowden" to misdirect the public and never said anything about KN's Fast&Furious, IRS, or any other scandals ever again.
>>537531827Yup.Any vehicle with a CAN bus. So about 2010 onwards.If it has a phone, and many of them do phone home, they can be driven remotely.You won't have video obviously but you can tell it where to go.
>>537538679What has the NSA ever done for America?
>>537531942Even before then anything with a computer csn be hacked to some extent and make your car do some weird stuff, maybe even gas, break, EXPLODE, maybe even some steering
>>537531827My daily driver is from the 90s glowniggers have nothing on me
Kirikou spouts so much bullshit because the CIA put him in prison for ratting out their operation and he wants them to look bad because of that.
>>5375318272nd and 3rd Gen Cummins bros made it
>>537531827You are now reminded that Cash 4 Clunkers cleared non-computerized cars off the road by law.
>>537531827>remote controlthis is bullshit or extremely exaggerated.first, how would they have remote control? they would have to either have a backdoor to ALL makes and models in that era via LTE/5G which not every car has, OR have physical access to the car to install some kind of remote control hack thing. Which means if they have physical access they could just install a bomb in your car to begin with, so what's the point.then we get into each make/model being different especially in terms of electronics and subsystems (steering, braking, ECU, drive by wire, etc). and even within the same make there can be differences between models and even model years where they changed things. ask any tech at a single brand, shit is not that simple.so you'd have to believe that the CIA has some master list of backdoors that can work remote on stock vehicles from all major makes/models for the last 10+ years (which means at least two model refreshes). i'm calling bullshit.then we get into what the car can actually do via ECU. sure, acceleration has been drive by wire for a long time now, but brake by wire hasn't. it's present on hybrids/EVs due to the nature of them, but most gas-only cars even modern ones are NOT brake by wire. steering is another thing that is very limited to do, maybe with LKAS systems it's possible but hardly fine "remote control" like self-driving would be.anyone in the automotive industry knows this is entirely fucking bullshit and fantastical. I'm sure there are ways for them to "attach" a remote control system to the car but it has to be tailor made for that vehicle. they don't just have some web UI where they can be like "remote control that nigga right there" at an instant.
>>537531827>admitting to multiple murdersweird flex
>>537531942Big reason for "Cash for Clunkers">Cash for vehicles which aren't under complete government control
>>537532145Older not necessarily safe. They crashed my 2009 Honda into a tree trying to kill me. When that didn’t work they settled for a tracking device surgically implanted in my ankle. They can also terminate my life with that due to poison capsule also contained in the tracker. Disguised as two screws.
>>537531827I like the occasional night ride but the car nigger is like a money pit.Gas prices, repairs, tolls, parking...Extremely high expenses to keep this shit running.
>>537539437>first, how would they have remote control? they would have to either have a backdoor to ALL makes and models in that era via LTE/5G which not every car has, OR have physical access to the car to install some kind of remote control hack thing.correct. the rest of you post was unnecessary to read so I didn't.
>>537539635now this is schizo posting
>>537539624I don't think it was for govt control as much as the auto industry + jewish usury lobby. the modern version of this is just technology, making people have FOMO.I have a first model year NSX and the only modern thing I wanted was bluetooth audio for music. fortunately it came with a 6-disc CD changer so someone makes an bluetooth adapter that lets you emulate a CD player with full controls for play/pause/prev/next over regular BT audio. works like a charm and 100% reversible.btw oil change in that thing is $50 done in 30 minutes or less.
>>537539635>older>2009you must be 18 or older to post here
>>537531827Yeah. We know.
>>537539855it was for other people trying to "ackshually" me with some bullshit defense so i have to premeptively shoot the shills and retards who know nothing about cars down.
>>537531827anyone that doesn't keep a healthy tinfoil skepticism about all developed technologies deserves to get fucked over by their government.
>>537532156It's even been shown several times by grey hats at defcon and/or black hat.
>>537531827is this only for self driving cars?
>>537539896>I don't think it was for govt control as much as the auto industry + jewish usury lobby. That's how everything happen on this planet, multiple groups of interest agree on the common ground that benefit each of them in some way.
>>537540085>with physical access to the carthat's like saying the feds can hack your computer once they are literally in your house
Why aren't motor company executives afraid to drive their own cars?
>>537539991You don't seem to understand, he said they have that access.Attacks have been shown repeatedly on a wide range of make and models.Typcially they don't fully remote control but rather disable brakes and force acceleration.Around the time the attacks became known several investigative journalists dies by suddenly accelerating into walls.
>>537531827No shit, /pol/tards drive clunkers for a reason. If your car wasn't available with a tape deck as standard it's over.
>>537538907>this is correct>>537539896>this is larpt, worked in automotive industry
>>537531827If it's made in the west it's a goykart, Chinese only
>>537540290No, not only with physical access.
>>537539437Not rocket surgery to have remote enhanced access to the car's Telematics Control Unit. Over 90% of newer cars have them. Hell, even telemetrics have been around for at least 20 years. It's not some alien technology we're dealing with here.
>>537539635Remain where you are.
>>537531827Old news. Real old.
>>537539074yeah, well it goes back a little further than that. It's called the CAN bus, and a CAN bus transceiver could be spliced into the wiring harness virtually anywhere in the vehicle and it can manipulate ECU and sensors by hijacking the arbitration sequence. CAN is a broadcast protocol so its basically just spamming the data freely to anything attached to the wires
>>537532156>>537531827Its an assumption based off of 1 or 2 vulnerable system they came across. They are all different and require different hacks. The reality is most of them cannot be hacked most likely or it would be done by regular people all the time. Or terrorist groups. Kikes are annoying liars and boomers literally pour their money into everything they say thats why this country is losing bit by bit and dollar by dollar as time goes on.
>>537531827Not muh problem, glowniggers could never get me no matter how little they try.
>>537532944> That said, you can completely remove Onstar from your vehicle. You can also completely disable anything that captures data and stores it within the vehicleInstructions please
>>537540545Right, that's how they steal a lot of the vans, just pop a rear light and connect to the CAN bus. Really any of these agencies could hack your vehicle if they had 30 seconds alone with it, put in a remote control and drive you into a wall, but at least with older models they need to physically tamper with it and not just log in remotely like with newer ones. And if they have to tamper with it physically they could just as easily put a bomb on it, fuck with your breaks/throttle, or do something else so you're already fucked at that point if they're going that far. Most of them are lazy fat cucks though so if it means leaving their office to do something they aren't going to do it.
>>537540590They are not sending their best
>>537531827You guys have cars?
>>537531827Glad I just rebuilt the engine and transmission in my 1998 f-150
>>537531827This is one way they kill their bread and circus celebs who aren't willing to keep playing ball
>heh my car is old and safeNot when they shoot a 50 cal through the engine
>>537531827AAAAaand?i'd be concerned if they couldn't
>>537539437The CAN bus works like this:>two wires running the entire length of the cars wiring harness>hundreds of nodes connected to this bus>a node could be anything, brake sensor, tilt sensor, throttle sensor, key on/off sensor, door locks, steering wheel position, and most importantly the ECU>all these nodes are broadcasting their data constantly on the CAN bus>this means they are spamming 100s of msgs per second all the time>the ECU is receiving this data and making alterations to basically run your car as you are controlling it>the messages can't all be interpreted at once>they go through an arbitration sequence that selects based on the lowest value of the header of the current messages being processed in transceiver>which ever msg has the lowest binary value wins the arbitration sequence and actually gets processed at that moment in time>this happens 100's of times a secondnow, how would you hijack it?>create your own transceiver module in the loop, before the actual transceiver>do your own arbitration sequence>compare that sensor data against a list of sensors you'd like to change the value of>when you get a hit, have your program alter it to the desired value>now the altered sensor data goes on to actual transceiver connected to ECUyou could change throttle, accelerate, brake, lock/unlock doors, turn on/off car, limit speed, roll windows up/down... it's limitless possibilities.
This is a dream for those guys, Back in the day it was real stuff, like draining petrol tanks and sawing parts under the hood. Not it's just hit enter and delete.
>>537531827Let go, let the CIA take the wheel.
Oh no.... who installed this kill switch by the steering wheel?!Damn, guess they'll need to make the electrical system wireless!
Holy larp
>>537531827land of the free btw
>>537540786Also older models have actual gearboxes, handbrakes, brakes etc. If you fuck with the throttle on mine I'll just put it in first and have a blast redlining at 30mph. Got a handbrake too. A key that actually turns off the ignition. Wouldn't trust a new car for shit.
People do this waymo
>>537541329the tech is already in every vehicle, even farm equipment has it, and it is not exclusive to US. CIA could mess with it, but also any other state actor could do the same in theory, you just need basic programming and EE knowledge and the right integrated circuit board
>>537539882indeed
>>537531827jokes on feds, I only take public buses
>>537539635You dropped this
>>537532251Those movies sucked and that guy was a loser
>>537531827Why are americans like this?. They revel in being able to say Nigger on the internet but dont give a fuck about palantir locating their car then the CIA driving it into a wall at highspeed because you might be a bit anti-Semitic.
>>537540325I was also suspicious of the Michael Hastings situation and I'm not ruling out targeted assassinations like this. He had a 2013 Mercedes C250, which does use the Mbrace2 cloud connectivity system. There could be backdoors present there that might have been used specifically for this, or the potential for his car to have been modified somehow by a government agency.My main gripe is that the suggestion that the CIA has this for all makes and models seems absurdly broad and impossible, especially how some of them do not have cloud connectivity features even today. I know more and more are getting cellular connectivity but you'd also have to assume that all of them have cellular backdoors into the ECU to reprogram it and the CIA has the way to do it across every brand? I find that hard to believe.>>537538907CANBUS is one thing but you need a way to get into it and then assuming that make/model allows the functionality you are trying to do via it. It is possible to do it via sensor spoofing attacks, making the ECU believe things are a certain way, but the formats especially across passenger cars (non J1939) are incredibly diverse.And even then, many modern vehicles have a "gateway firewall" that isolates critical safety networks like powertrain/chassis from the infotainment or ODB-II ports. So you would have be suggesting that the cell-enabled data systems have a way to get into the "inner core" CANBUS network which would be an obvious security flaw in design so bad these days it would be almost intentional.
>>537540993Radial wins again. It'll still run with a cylinder blasted off.
>>537531827cia niggers tongue my anus
>>537542133We are the ultimate bread and circus cattle
Kash "Hackerman" Patel
>>537531827everyone already knew that since 2012-2013 when Hastings car wrapped itself magically around a tree
>>537531827Not if i beef up the emergency brakes and put a stand alone ECU in there they cant
>>537531827I unplugged the antennas on my car. It can't receive or send any data or signals. Yes, this means I no longer have a working radio, but I just use my phone anyways.
>>537532145Every thing really is computer. Just ask Mitch McConnell's sister-in-law
>>537532145If you have a turn key ignition, you should be ok. Turn it off if they managed to upload something janky. Never understood that one case, this asian guy was accelerating and said he was on the brake the whole time. He ended up killing people and put in prison. The car was recalled after and he was found innocent after serving a long time. All he had to do was turn it off. Browns lose brakes and they have no idea the emergency break is hard wired.
>>537543094I want to remotely hack into her tits and crash her into me, if you know what I mean.
>>537543094>Just ask Mitch McConnell's sister-in-lawThat taiwan lady that owned the cargo freight operation?I remember they drove her tesla conpletely around her house/mansion and into the pool and called it an accident.I still dont get why they offed her desu can you explain pls.
CIA tongues my anus
>>537543094Yeah but on an older car where your throttle is just a cable connected to your gas pedal, that's something that can't be hacked. A car with an electronic throttle seems a lot more vulnerable. Late 90s/early 2000s cars have computers but they're much, much simpler units that don't do anything besides reading data from the sensors and making adjustments based on it. Those older style ECUs don't really have any control over anything else and it's a closed system that no one can connect to.I still would like to know what the cutoff point is between what years the ECU is just a closed system that monitors sensor data and when it became something vulnerable that can be connected to from an outside source.
>>537531827The CIA doesn't exists. Its a conspiracy theory. But if they did exist they are patriots and do it for our freedom.
>>537531827Carfags BTFO again
>>537544374i love the fact that kind of woman would never be interested in the guy sitting down but she's increasingly confused why he isn't gawking at her and would rather open pokemon packs on the train
>>537539635Meds
>>537532484Well you're not really helping keep the memory alive by not naming him as Michael Hastings yourself.
>>537532222Wasted digits on such an ignorant newfaggot shitpost.
>>537539635Based schizo.
>>537531827i have seen cars older than that, in car chases they can trigger the airbag, and it also releases a stinky white powder substance by which they can track the driver by smell.
>>537536115>He has the same inability to grasp government power Snowden did, and Snowden also did not have the pedigree to do any politicking, so both just denounced government altogether to feel superiorI dont need eyes to see your jewishness
>>537531827>KiriakouHe said this three years ago on a podcast and it's been known longer-ago than that.
>>537543179Some people have ignition cutoff switches put into their cars, which seems like a good idea these days. It seems too well within the realm of possibility even on some older cars that have electric throttle bodies that someone could connect to your system and force your throttle all the way open
>>537531827
>>537531827remember the reporter that broke the story on the Panama papers? Yeah, me neither.
>>537531827are glowniggers running the tuning game? they're the ones leaking how to crack new ecus? lmao
I ripped the Onstar module out of my mom's car for this reason. No antenna, not comms. This goes for any wireless communications.
You're safe if you have a manual transmission. Glownigger tech relies on computers controlling your clutch. If you just push your clutch in glowniggers can't do shit.
>>537545329Older automatics are fine too because they aren't computerized.
>>537531827Doubt they can remote control my stick shift.
>>537531942Yep they used to call this (((unintended acceleration))).
>>537542133Why are chinks like this? >>537542511
>>537531827Why I drive a 2009 Saab fuck you glowniggers
this is why i stack pre-2008 japanese shitboxes. for $2k you can get a kike-free vehicle thats reliable. its gonna be worth its weight in gold when the retard NPCs finally realize what powers they gave the kikes
duh, so can the Russians and others
>>537547057Me on the left.
*blocks your path*
>>537531827Cool, I can blame them for vehicular manslaughter
>>537531942wikileaks revealed this not too long after michael hastings died on route to interview julian assange
>>537531827>allegedly>according>formerTwitter and the internet as a whole is just a bunch of slop. Subhuman retards posting like this, and then reposting on 4chan. Fucking subhuman.
>>5375318272009 here. I'm a ghost with a steel frame, scanner and no gps, when I want to be.
>>537542200>you'd also have to assume that all of them have cellular backdoors into the ECU to reprogram it and the CIA has the way to do it across every brand?>I find that hard to believeit's a few bits of data, you just need the individual backdoor code of the model, which you would have collected in a databasethen you just change some variables, idk, turn pedal sensitivity to zerothats just writing 0x0 to byte 0x343FEA03, and the commands to do that would be a few bytes more
>>537531827This started around 1995ish. Basically any car with fuel injectors instead of a carburetor get their computers as a standard unit that INCLUDES the comms equipment for OnStar. Its built into the supply-chain. Even cars that don't have OnStar enabled are universally connected to the network, and can be remote-controlled.
>>537547057They are the ultimate "for the greater good" cattle
>>537545019its probably a give-and-take relationshiptheyve definitely onboarded one or two enthusiastsidk record them masturbating to scat porn>you work for us now, tooor check your bank accounts for sketchy stuff and threaten to report to IRSor illegals to ICE
this is why you're not allowed to buy a CHYNA car
>>537544259Every car computer since On-Star (including cars that don't use it) has had an OnStar control unit on the chip. They're integrated. OnStar is the network that controls the cars. (The communication is generally two-way because they need to know if the hit was successful or not. So victims are given a system to "check in" with the assassination crew.)
>>537531827New business idea unlocked. Faraday cage your car
>>537550462Lies
>>537550243Uh huh suuure
>>537539635Stay safe, anon
>>537550599its definitely not presently as apocalyptic as that anon describesbut hes not wrong, in that that is the mechanism, by which we civilians lose control and become literally slaves in a systemthis is why ive been supporting FOSS all alongits a question of trusti want to buy cars, where ECU software is extractable, open sourced and hashsumable, and checks out, and is known to not have backdoorsi expect this to be the least wrong, the least evili am disgusted and insulted, it is even insinuated i am crazy for wanting that
>>537539437They have lower power bluetooth backdoors built into the chips.
>>537536793first motherfucker who came to mind
>>537550785we never should have accepted proprietary, closed-source code in machines that can kill, evereven the military can agree to that, if it doesnt>imagine open source is default>how hard it would be to sneak in backdoorsyou think you lose an edge, because your secrets are openbut you dont stop to think how you could win if secrets are illegal to begin withBECAUSE YOURE ALL FUCKING RETARDS
>>537531827I drive a pre 2012 car with no fancy electronics that could be fucked with by glowniggers. One of the passenger windows is all fucked up but life is good.
>>537531827What about phones and computers? They can put shit on anyones device anytime you become a problem.
>>537531827The thing about deliberately leaving all these backdoors is that they can be used against you too glowies. I'm sure plenty of foreign governments can wield it as a weapon thanks to you retards.
>>537532944>Actually trying to peddle this when car have entire fucking computer in them at this pointI guess your toolkit is severely outdated
>>537532484He hasn't been "scrubbed" you can still find shit about him online googling him.
>>537550321glowies are not your friend, nevereveryone is disposable, and they have the best means to make it look like an accident
>>537551353yeah, but they need to rely on backdoorswith the updates windows is pushing on a regular scheduleand the unique machine codesthey could covertly be deploying RATs and data scanners in a random manner to evade detectionunder the guise of closed source and 'updates'its overi only speak this clearly now, because it is
>>537551353I often wonder if "nuke" is a codeword for "state secret like the backdoor password to every car in the country," rather than mundane dumb shit like "Epstein's list."
>>537544669He's right. Kike is a failed influencer.
>>537531827Imagine driving anything made after 2000
>>537550462Yeah that lines up with what Alex Jones has been saying for over 20 years, that's one of the main things he's been saying is they want to outlaw people using older cars for that reason
>>537552301Cash for Clunkers was a very effective operation to that end. Today, if you want a car with a carburetor, you've got to get lucky at an estate sale or something. I had a neighbor die last year, and his old El Camino sold for $10k, and it was a literal rustbucket with mold and holes in the body.
>>537532222No, he's the messenger. The source is an ex-CIA officer./peanut_brain
>>537531827Good thing I drive a 2002 7.3l turbo diesel
>>537550321usually, from the cars i've owned that couldn't be unlocked for years, it was usually engineers at bosch or whoever made the ecu that would leak how to crack it for a bunch of money. i guess they could still be glownigger assets. i wonder if external ecu, like syvecs, would bypass this or the kill switch is somewhere other than the ecu.
I'm pretty sure I can put my car in neutral and they won't be able to do anything
>>537553196there it is
>>537553267do you have brake by wire brakes? they could probably lock those up in an odd configuration to cause a crash
interesting thread bump
>>537542200NSA ANT Catalouge showcases hardware capable of facilitating this kind of attack chain; attacks of this nature are generally well understood and have been demonstrated on multiple occasions. A large automaker brand exposed a service on port 666 which was vulnerable to an unauthenticated RCE. Only a singe vheicle was exploited in the demonstration, but scans indicated numerous vulnerable models in the area. The automaker was responsibly notified and patches were rolled out but I would imagine the problems are only as far gone as anybody has cared to look.>>537550093Well it's probably written in C, and there's probably all kinds of buffer shenanegins one could do but I think most major manufacturers are participating in bug bounties so hopefully the footholds are eventually patched out
>>537531827Wouldn't that just make it too easy for anyone who knew the code to hijack a car? Cheating is a two way street. Even if they are on top right now they won't be there forever. It won't be Plebs doing them in. It will be their own team realizing how worthless it is to trust the masters. And they just back doored every car in sight. Which could easily be made to crash into their unhackable models. The Jewish war against beauty is really mind fucking the operatives.
>>537531827>buys 2026 Pyeonghwa Motors from North KoreaNow what?
Jokes on them. My newest car is 2008.
>>537531827Is there no aftermarket for replacement automotive computers that guarantee no wireless functionality?
>>537553772I guess they could fuck me up pretty bad if they picked the right moment. I miss my supercharged mx5 from 1993.
Think the CIA is not completely destroyed? They are.
>>537554096Would
>>537531942Yeah it's been done plenty of times https://www.cnbc.com/2016/03/02/ex-chesapeake-ceo-mcclendon-dies-in-car-wreck-day-after-indictment.html
>>537554169>>537553202usually very big power builds will go to external ecu so they can modify all parameters. last few generation of ecus that i'm familiar only allow modifying a select set which will limit how much the car can safely put out if you stick with using the stock ecu. how fun would it be if this saved the aftermarket industry
>>537531827I have glownigger fatigue
>>537550687This is a threat
>>537531827>formerlol no way that propagandist is "former"
>>537554291The issue is that they're not even good at what they're doing. Evil requires an etiquette and a competence. Incompetent chipmunk evil where they are just doing shit to stuff their cheeks and run away with as much as they can grab with no grand plan or ultimate strategy is retarded.
>>537531827I don't believe this, at least not on a grand commercial scale. It's more believable they give faux recalls to specific people and they alter the vehicle at a shop under the pretense of fixing or replacing something. That said I already drive 90's vehicles cause I want to drive 90's vehicles so even if I'm wrong my car doesn't glow.
>>537539635>>537550687
>>537539938a 2009 car is older than a 2011 carfucking moron
>>537531827better be a good hivemind goy slave or they'll run you off the freewayfuck me. this is why i dont even bother getting a license. or do a damn thing at all for this evil hellbound country has robbed me of basically everything. that was our birthright. shat all over by the least of humanity. while we are forced to watch.tell me this is not a fallen angel simulation. my soul is in some fake world held together by some retarded demons illusions. theyre just all being restrained by God.. for now.
>>537542200Most newer canbus systems have diagnostic networks that are the gateway to the broader networks, satellite capable ones also have security networks for this reason. The idea that a non satellite capable CAN network is magically going to be hacked, without physically connecting to the network is ridiculous. But if you can interface that OBD port, it's open season. It's not really as secure as you'd think, seeing as all after market scan tools interface with it.
>>537531827Who gives a shit? I’ll worry when they can accurately maim and cripple me without risking my life.
>>537554460The self driving cars are real. If they can be remote driven by the factory they can be remote driven by anyone with access to the code and transmitter.
>>537531827Tfw retards buy trucks without mechanical throttle linkages, brakes and steering that they can't physically repair if they break.>muhCIA>muh(((dealer servicing computers)))
>>537531827I drive a manual so that isn't entirely accurate>Plops it into neutral
>>537539635
>>537531827Well obviously. The whole On Star connection was just waiting to be abused
>>537532145Even new cars should be fine as long as they are the most bare-bones trim. What you need to look out for if you're concerned about this is if the vehicle has stuff like lane assist, adaptive cruise control, and connectivity features that let you do stuff like remotely start the car using an app.
>>537531827That is for quick and lazy assassinations when other methods are not readily available. Having a car crash and fire is probably not preferred when a gassing and a friendly morgue doc writing down heart attack is a million times easier and quieter--even more so now that so many have covid boosters in them. If your leftist neighbor had a heart attack at 30, you wouldn't think twice and would probably smile. If they were doing 130 miles an hour on a city street and burned to a crisp just as they were about to publish a story on Brennan, you might have questions.
I'll say it one more time for the cheap seats. Masters who can not guarantee safety don't stay masters for very long. If a significant number of cars are able to be controlled remotely, everyone needs to know about it.
>>537554096Wouldn't the intel agencies that run all governments under one roof just recycle the same infrastructure globally? I see no reason that Chinese, North Korean, American, Russian, European equipment should be considered different in any way whatsoever. (Remember who participated in COVID? Everyone. Everywhere. All at once.)
>>537552603That's what I'd do. If I had $30-50k for a new car, I'd just go to junkyards and look for a viable frame that's still in good enough condition and just build a car from scratch.
I'm poor, I have an old car but I'm safe.inb4 a 10 years old cars hacked by CIA crashes into me.
>>537555757The only thing it couldn't pass was a gas station. However, after about 50k miles the bumper mounts have rotted out and you needed a coat hanger wrapped around to keep the bumper in place.That being said, it was an absolute joy to drive
>>537555978My family had a car like that when I was a kid, it was a yellow oldsmobile or an LTD, I don't remember what make and model it was but it looked just like that, only it was yellow. It was a dilapidated piece of crab that had rust holes in the floor that you could see the fucking ground though, but it was fast. You hit the pedal and that thing flew, it was like a racecar almost. We called it the banana boat.
>>537531942Newsweek Fact Check: Was Georgia Senator's Aide 'Blown Up' To Stop 2020 Audit?
>>537531827This has been true for nearly 30 years
>>537532944>>537551513ETCS (Electronic Throttle Control System) or Accelerator Pedal Position (APP) sensors are a couple of examples of computer components which have been known to be able to cause uncontrolled acceleration since at least the early 2000s. NASA famously proved that a mechanical fault in the APP sensor could cause uncontrolled acceleration, but a similar effect could be achieved by sending it spoofed data.
>>537531827No shit. Pretty much every remotely new car it's very obvious the whole thing is digital.Personally, I don't get the appeal. I'm using a loaner right now and simple shit changing the radio is annoying to do and dangerous af while driving. Things that were simple and safe to do when it was just a button and not some touch screen.Also, IDK how hybrids work, but this whole thing of the engine shutting off when I stop then restarting when I press the gas feels clunky as fuck and just seems like it would break down the car faster. Also makes me feel like a huge pussy that I can't just hit the gas and go.
Are they going to continue genociding us and facilitating treason, invasion and genocide? No way! They have control of the cars, wow. lol
>>537556088> yellowThey had a cream color which was pretty popular> FastYou're not wrong. And it had the four barrel carbonator. If you were going 70mph down the highway and put it to the floor, you could feel the other two barrels open and it would still push you back in your seat.> rustOldsmobile's were notorious. I wasn't lying about having to use a hanger to keep the pumper on. The mound which exited the back of the vehicle on which the bumper mounted rusted out fast in every olds I ever saw
>>537531827if your vehicle has any kind of "advanced cruise control" where it can keep itself in a lane or maintain space in front of you, basically able to control the steering or brakes, and any kind of system like bluelink or onstar (they all do), then yes you have the equipment necessary to remotely connect and control the steering and brakesthis is obvious if you have any idea how any of that stuff works
>>537532222checked>>537544669based
>>537556758Correct, and even before onstar, etc, if they could get access to your vehicle they could hack it locally and cause the same thing.
>>537531827Sure, then why are cops still chasing niggers in cars multiple times each day?
>>537532145Kid, how come you're really stupid? Did a single mom raise you?
>schizo threadMaybe just maybe old boomers are shit drivers. Just a thought.
>>537557013enough cops already left after the last couple of years, gotta let them chase a few niggers to keep em interested in the job
>>537557013every niggas gotta run from the one time for that street cred and head from shaniquas back in the hood when they get out
I didnt read the entire thread but I can tell half you kids dont even know how a car works.
>>537532484Seth Rich?
>>537539448You won't do shit about it.
>>537531827>and I believe themThey say all this shit yet dont hack their enemies cars and make them drive off cliffs. You'd have thought there'd be an instance if some us enemy driving off a cliff
>>537532125Worst thing is they have no pneumatic or hydraulic backup systems same as f1 cars. If the brake pedal signal fails you have no brakes at 180mph. Happened to niko uuulkenbeeerg the other day.
>>537557013For fun
>>537557013The police and CIA are different things and making the niggers crash via hacking would ruin the plausible deniabikity for their assassinations. Same reason they don't release their lists of zero day exploits to be patched, even though it creates huge security risks for everyone.
Yeah we know. And if you think by driving an older car you are safe they will just crash a random grandma hyundai in you
>>537549158Correct, it was the vault 7 leaks.
>>537531827Everyone knows this but it only applies to drive-by-wire vehicles (steer by wire or throttle by wire). Automakers aren't software engineering experts and none of them air gap these systems. If a hacker bypasses the security of the vehicle's wireless gateway (like the cellular telematics unit), they can move laterally into the drivetrain network. Once inside, they can broadcast malicious commands directly to the steering or acceleration actuators.
>>537531827>John Kiriakousame guy who recently said divorce is worse than prison? How long are they going to let him live?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5PBQ90TY-4
>>537531827That was literally exposed in the Wikileaks files back in 2018 and the reporter investigating it was literally killed by them doing that to him.
>>537558528This guy just gets on camera and lies constantly. What did he even do in his career? Why would CIA hire a civilian to run paramilitary operations when they can just hire a military officer?Shit doesn't add up.
>>537558623It was Michael Hastings and the leak was vault 7. Oh and the other poster was right they’ve been able to do it since atleast 2010, maybe even before that.
They first remotely deploy the airbag first, to stun you and make it useless, and to prevent an airbag deployment investigation, before crashing and igniting the vehicle.Ask me how I know.
>>537555688Good point however I feel that a north korean car would be so barebones that the high tech shit necessary wouldn’t even be there
>>537558506holy shit that might be the gayest car ive ever seenit looks like a funko pop in car form
>>537531827/pol/ knows everything 10 years in advance.I must warn you to stop eating goyslop. It's Chinese cadaver meat. You'll find out in 10 years and be disgusted. The initial hints are out there, look up "chinese human meat scandal"
>>537531827there are people that didnt already know this?
>>537531827Car theft was plummeting in the early part of the century, until every car got electronics and now is hackable in 5 seconds. A lot of people is buying aftermarket mechnical locks just to stop this vulnerability.
>>537558753>Ask me how I know.uh okay, how do you know?
>>537531827>John KirakouHahahahahahahaha fuck offfffffffff
>>537531827Good thing I drive a riced up 2008 corolla.
>>537559228>Chinese cadaver meatbro. claim your fame. genetic test are cheap enough. go ahead a test the goyslop food for human dna
Even cars as old as the 2017 Toyota Corolla have front facing cameras as part of TSS-P. This is how they remotely steer you (via DCM) into a lethal impact.I worked on this! Sorry, gotta go guys!
>>537549158It's "en route*
>>537538907>>537532944Shills, tards, and idiots abound ITT.Canbus is a system to reduce the amount of wiring in a vehicle by putting a bunch of non-related components on a shared circuit. Other capabilities may be integrated, as each sensor or thing getting electricity necessarily includes some sort of computer chip, but strictly speaking that's all it does.Depending on how your anti-lock brakes work, the car may or may not be able to hit the brakes independently of you.Depending on how your power steering system is configured, your car may or may not be able to turn the wheel independent of you. If you have lane keep assist, it can. If your car has throttle by wire, the computer is controlling the throttle. Most cars made after 2005 have this.Unless your car has cameras out the ass like a tesla, nobody is fucking driving one remotely like some hollywood bullshit.The most unhackable car has a mechanically injected diesel engine(OM603, 98 and down 6bt, ect) or a carbureted gas engine with points ignition(70s and prior cars, 80s and prior truggs). This sort of stuff is obvious to any non retarded gearhead but if you are not that, this is a basic guide. You're honestly probably safe with anything 2008 or before.
>>537559515Possible to hack a Sierra Cosworth?
>>537531827BREAKING: 4CHAN users believe anything posted on Xitter and are all niggers - fromer ASIO staffer
>>537559439>it's "on root"shut the fuck up
>>537540992Like Anne Heche
I'm sure all the chink EV's every faggot here is buying are filled with chink spy tech too
>>537531942>don't react goy, it's old news!Kill yourself you shill faggot piece of shit.
>>537559974I love it when you get angry cause you found out you're retarded for the 2nd time today.
>>537531827This is the reason why Obama should be executed.
>>537560205>muh chinano chinese every called me goy
>>537560468I'm trying to think of cars that wouldn't have some gay government shit in them. well at least not US/China/Russia. not that Russia makes cars. I imagine CIA has access to all the German and Jap car's. I can only think of Saab, Peugeot, and Renault which are also euro
>>537531827Michael Hastings tried to warn us
>>537560602i trust china over ZOG desu. ik ausland is more antichink and i get it though
>>537560754yeah. I imagine Australia is filled will all kinds of foreign agents. so the possibility that chinks could just remote kill me in my car is probably more of a reality for me that you. more likely to have Mossad kill me though. not that I think I am on anyone's hit lists. every government seems to want to spy on everyone. some of them have the means, others don't
>>537531827> former cia officerGood one.
>>537531827They've done this so many times.Your car will just accelerate to 120mph and there's nothing you can do about it.Some people have managed to survive over an hour while driving 120mph with no way to stop before crashing and dying.
>>537531827Ok, not buying a new car, noted. Thanks.
>>537543094Yerrow pushy me rike!!!
>>537562326>Some people have managed to survive over an hour while driving 120mph with no way to stop before crashing and dying.i mean, realistically....couldn't you just try to flip your car? preferably before hitting 100+ mph or use a wall to limit the speed and flip?
>>537531942I can't even afford to fix my much older car.
>>537531827I learned this from that one killer bean schizo theories video
>>537541078In Layman's terms, the CIA can hack into your car in the roughly the same way a Gameshark code forces your game to see data that's not actually being sent by the player, such as forcing your HP to always be full even when you take damage, etc.The car sees you haven't engaged the brakes even though you're flooring it since the sensor is still reading "brakes not engaged."
>>537532251Lol. The Porsche Carrera GT he was passenger in has fully analogue steering.Fucking idiot.
>>537559211Show your Nissan Tyrone
>>537531827ngmi
>>537531827How can you not rip out some electronics?Why aren't any of these EVs hacked? I swear a few years ago there were weekly reports of Teslas being "hacked," even when it meant having full access to the car.
>>537531827everybody knows that the cia has a backdoor to access every single chip manufactured by american companies. Does this mean that they can take over your car? well, as far as connecting to your cars computer and being able to do anything they want with it yes of course.
>>537531827>hackingUsing backdoors installed by design, built to spec, under official orders, is ANYTHING but hacking.
>>537565230Those electronics are constantly communicatin, verifying and validating each other. Communications are also encrypted.If something is missing or has changed (different serial number for example), the system will just refuse to boot.Theoretically you could strip all electronics and wire the car yourself for the bare minimum. Not only it's a massive effort but even if you were successful, the government also makes it sure your mod isn't street legal.The best you can do nowadays, if your car isn't too new, but still connected to the grid, is to find the antennas and cover them with aluminum foil. Make sure it doesn't get any signal. Do it while you can. Cars in the near future eventually probably won't even boot without strong network signals.(((They))) have us by the balls.
>>537558065>8065▶>>>537532125you mean the call of duty guy?the signal cuts out and you aqua plane till forever?sucks man
>>537531827Time to buy chinese. BYD sure is looking good rn.
>>537565388and we're in, send this 4channer into a ball of fire petrol and metal - sincerely the feds
>>537538679Snowden was an op to target and reveal the NSA because Obama wanted the CIA to have redundant capabilities that were outside the military chain of command at NSA.
>>537558669>What did he even do in his career?According to him, he was forced to fuck a dude and a tranny by his boss. Not sure how that defends americans or whatever.
>>537565671Cool. I should look more into what people are trying with new cars.
>>537531827>>537531942actually they've been able to do it since like 1995 and even earlier>The 1980s saw a significant expansion in automotive computing, with major manufacturers like Ford and GM adopting microprocessor-based systems for engine performance, transmission control, and anti-lock braking. By the 1990s, computerized systems became standard across the industry, culminating in the 1996 mandate for OBD-II diagnostics in the United States.
>>537538557>drive by wireye any car with that can be hacked by glowies.
>>537531827>last 10 yearsHello slowpoke.
>>537531827You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
my car is a manuel. i can just put it in neutral and pull the hand brake.
>>537539071>What has the NSA ever done for America?nothing good. the united states SINCE WW1 has been terrible. its just inner factions and families infighting like a bunch of niggers in the hood. and were the innocent nigger grandma who randomly gets shot in the head while getting milk one night.
>>537531827I thought I was safe in my 2012 Lexus...guess not then?Next car will be an Opel GT cause I just want to pull that headlight lever day and night. Let's see the CIA try stop me.
>>537531827>doesnt drive a golden era JDMNGMI.
>>537555978Absolute unit of a family wagon. Velvet seats and all... What a dream!
>>537559090That's why North Koreans are so well organized. They're kept too illiterate to SUSPECT the bullshit that's built-in. In reality, they regularly deploy the same broadcast and internet technologies we do. *thinking emoji*
They can't do anything to your car if you remove the dcm transmitting you driving data
>>537531827Snowden disclosed this over a decade ago.I do not trust Kiriakou. He is still bound by NDAs and everything he says has to be approved by the glowniggers or he can face criminal charges. This is for life, the things he is saying are a controlled release valve of pressure.
>>537555978My dad had an Oldsmobile Ninety Eight. With the really luxurious interior and the opera lights on the outside. We would sit on the porch as kids and could always recognize his car far up the street cause of the opera lights and we'd all run in the house in case he was coming home mean drunk. Damn, I miss Dad. Went to the cemetery today for Fathers Day...still can't believe he's gone. RIP in peace Dad.
>>537531827They need to do this instead of getting into police chases with addicts.
>>537568161many fathoms to the depth of this based
Only if it's actually connected to something.
Planes too btw.
>>537531827i've always thought the move to electronic power steering was SPECIFICALLY for this reason. People NEED to learn how to disable these things.
>>537532251
Man if the CIA is gonna control my card they should at least just drive me to work in the meantime
>>537544374sometimes you just tired of sex
>>537531827this was in the snowden leaks in like 2008, not exactly news
>>537563780>thinks analogue steering on a fucking porsche the most pozzed car isnt getting controlled by cia for political assassinationsngmi
>>537531827>>537531942>>537532125>>537532145>>537532156>>537532265my car doesn't have a computer and i can live in it comfortably
>>537531827It's gonna be wild when terrorists get ahold of those backdoors and turn them into weapons.Just kidding, Kiriakou seems more like a lying sociopathic entertainer than a good faith actor. I've listened to hours of him and that's the impression I got. He's a half decent story teller if you can suspend disbelief.They can probably only reduce the cars speed through a governor, read all data in the cars instrumentation, including any attached usb or bluetooth devices, engage the brakes, lock the doors, roll down the windows, set destination for self drive, disengage self drive, de register the key fobs, and mechanically disable the ignitions anyway... Engaging self drive features, and the ability to remote steer and accelerate creates a liability that no domestic government agency wants. It's not like if they had backdoors that could do those listed things someone could just script and add features Willy nilly. That would take at least 2 or 3 months of perusing publicly available CARBUS documentation with an AI, providing you are starting with zero coding or hacking experience.
>>537571956Nice $200 car, how long have you been a gay nigger?
>>537571956 Your car will be rusted through and in a junk heap within 10 years, along with most other cars that age.
>>537571956If it has fuel injection, it has a computer. The only computers for cars come with OnStar.
>>537556997Sort of, older ones they might be able to fuck with throttle because it's electronic drive by wire, but there's no way of fucking with the steering, or brakes etc because it's mechanical with no electronic control. Early 2000s is the sweet spot for nice car and somewhat unhackable. If you still don't trust it then go even older to something with a carburetter and an actual throttle cable
>>537572306Imagine not driving a car with a mechanical diesel pump. Maybe one day the goyim will learn.
>>537541078Yeah but what If I set up a special manufacturer's code to provide OBD readouts and controls in the digital instrumentation? What if I called it Instrument mode B or something goofy like that? What if that instrumentation runs on Android?Don't worry it won't run if crash detection is activated. It will just wipe the box entirely.
>>537544918>manual transmission>can just press the clutch>manual brakes>they'd have to cut the hydraulics and the easy way to test for that is to slam your brakes when you get into the carMI5 niggers tongue my anus. Best they could do was scratch my rims.
>>537531827Not if I A. Install a mechanical kill switchB. Have unprotected sex with the ecuC. 357 magnum4.??????????5. Profit
even 2007 w221?
>>537536115glownigger post
>>537532222Take your vax, good goy.
>>537572390they will give you a hacked rental wherever you will one day have to use a rental, airport on vacation, travel, your car got "towed" ( no matter if legit or not ( tip: its probably towed by them )) or stolen, or is at the repair shop etc. once you enter that you're donebottom line is, if they want you they will get youits not the "legit" feds (those are just a front) its a onion inside of a onion, layers of secrecy, and underneath some of them there is crime, organized crime, for reasons, so basically if you piss off the wrong people, they will get you.the how all depends on what you put on your bill and are unable to pay for got some big $$$ patents ? plane crash threatening the network by spilling the beans ? car crash and so on ... you get the idea
>>537532445Cope and seethe, Rabbi
