Common Chinese W
$74 for an orange. Can you fuck off please
>>537541511It wasn't saplings, thats just a cope thrown around by Japs to make the situation sound worse. Some of these oranges had seeds in them as even seedless oranges of different varieties will at times still produce a seed. Chinese just planted the seeds and grew them back home.
>>537541511I did the same but with my neighbors weed, just cut some clones and outgrew his bitch made garden by 2 feet and 8lbs.
>Communist can only stealShocking
>>537541898They really cant create and we have to genocide them before they kill us and the world
>>537541733Chinese will take a trip to Japan just to drive around farm country and steal fruits and vegetables. Claiming it's inconceivable that they took some cuttings from trees is stupid.
>>537541898cry more kike lmao
>>537541733>Its called grafting you ignorant boob. You can snip off twigs and graft them to older rootstock to rapidly make a tree
intellectual property is not real property. you cant own an idea.
Every western country is being extorted to the full amount anyone is willing to pay for anything. You can compare prices of items from USA, Japan, Australia etc and each one is being ripped off. Japanese prize fruit very highly while Australia could grow all the fruit Japan needs, but it's all about relative extortion. Compare the same items in different countries in the same currency and you will see what I mean.
>>537541511Honestly you got to keep a better watch over your genetics. Think of your orange tree like a gold brick or something that a thief might want to steal next time
>>537542030I'm aware of that you twat, its how they produce new varieties of apples around here where I live.The point I'm making that your low iq mind can't grasp is that the chinks didn't need to steal saplings because they didn't. They found seeds in a few of the oranges and used those seeds to plant them back home.
>>537541729In which turd world shit hole is 500 yen equal to 74 dollars?
>>537541997Says the faggot that thinks you have some inalienable right to other people's development and progress, you diseased shithead
And when did this happen? From a sapling you are looking at 3 years minimum until it can produce oranges. From seeds, 9 years or so assuming ideal conditions.
>Japan steals its entire culture from China>YOU NO UNDERSTAND, THAT FINE! NIPPON NUMBER WHAN!>China steals an orange from Japan>FUCK YOU BLOODY BASTARD BITCH! NO STEAL FROM NIPPON!Why are they like this?
>>537541511There are two choices here.Refuse to care, or think both parties are fucking shit. Fucking protect your land, retard orchard owner.
>>537541898>Asians can't create*Let's be honest here, after ww2 Japan went full stealing mod till 90s and so did South-Korea. All the asian countries have stole tech, ips and patents.
>>537542130How are you so sure they didn't steal a sapling when they steal everything else?
>>537541729500 JPY is like $3 what are you talking about?
>>537542224>Japan steals its entire culture from ChinaJapanese culture hasn't taken notes from China in over a thousand years
>>537542192>noo you have to obey my uniquely jewish laws, it says in the talmud that these seeds were promised to me 4000 years ago!!!
>>537542224inferiority complex as for Americucks here they just love Jewish semen and homosexual brown plutocracy that exploits them and turned their country into fourth world shithole that’s getting smacked around by Iran
>>537541511Chinese, English, Indian, African.We have the same name for all four.In some countries they are called Jeets, in other countries they are called Niggers.
Copyrighting plant breeds is probably the most retarded concept ever invented. If you want to breed your own cultivar, you should be thinking of how it will help you get more food in your climate and region, not about how much money you will make from it. I personally breed my own because most varieties on the market were not bred for my climate and die easily to disease or pests.
>>537541898Based, i hope communists and capitalists eat eachother..
>China sells it on their own market and doesn't interfere with the Japanese market by selling it cheaperWhat's the problem again?
>>537541511>NOOOOOOOO WE MUST GATEKEEP FRUIT FOR THE SAKE OF CAPITALISM
>>537541511Here, Yamato. Take a seatNow please tell me what you gonna do about it.
>>537541511Sorry Japs, I've patented the use of a 2-circuit, 4-chamber muscle pump to power organic beings. Your hearts violate my patent, I'll have to rip them out.
>>537542340Japanese did not even have their own writing system until 1946. It was Chinese.
>don't you also hopeNo actually I don't think the Chinese deserve nice Japanese fruits.I hope there's some kind of punishment for the thieves though I doubt it.
>>537542271Are you retarded or just a seething, inferior mongoloid? Japanese made superior cars, their woodworking is top tier and you’ve obviously never owned a zojirushi. Kys, faggot.
>>537541511Serious export policy changes need to take place with China. If we spent the last 25 years ignoring patent policy, then exporting knock offs to the very country of origin with legal impunity we would be filthy rich also
Chineses are incapable of creation. They can, at best, imitate.
>>537542531>things that make you hmmIt's quite the shame that you can repeat this so often without having a "wtf, is this inversion" moment.
>>537541511Groriosu Nipponu
>>537542723Spesharu Chingu Chongu.
>>537542652did rabbi teach you that?
>>537541511>“Don’t you also hope that Chinese people can eat delicious fruit?Fucking based
>>537542061>Japanese prize fruit very highlyWhy is that so?I've heard of japanese watermelons at absurd prices.2,70 for an orange is also rather expensive, though not outrageous.
How come no one is stealing Chinese fruit?
>>537543020Oranges are from China so its already stolen by japs. And brits stole the kiwi fruit.
>>537542376>brings up America out of the blue when talking about an inferiority complexlol. lmao, even.
>>537543020They trade them. No need to steal. Only thing preventing any cultivar from coming here from China etc. is customs and the USDA.
>>537541511is this why they sent orange corona to florida
>>537541511This is called a ragebait account.
>>537542944Historically they didn't have access to sugar. So fruits were their main kind of sweet. Traditional Japanese sweets are notoriously barely sweet at all and generally don't use cane sugar.
>>537541511>nigger-like behavior:|>nigger-like behavior, china:OOOOOi hope all wumao cannibalize each other like some tang dynasty siege when the world final cuts china/india off from the internet
>>537541511The English stole tea from the Chinese.The Dutch stole coffee from the Arabs.It's all normal, crops cannot be hoarded.
>>537541511Fake and gay jeet slop thread
>>537543353You forgot silk too. A priest smuggled a bunch of silk worms out of China and ended China's monopoly on silk.
>>537543327>muh pwecious intellectual property>but we need AI to violate every intellectual property law in existence in order to beat chynapound sand you minority white golem NIGGER
>>537543266Cultivars should be bred with resilience to diseases. Relying on a monocrop is unrealistic. Even fungus mutates and resistances fail. Also, relying on cultivars that require pesticides and herbicides and mass fertilizilation instead of natural genetic resistance and is a retarded concept borne out from boomers with no forethought. Valuing total yield over guaranteed output is the problem with all of modern agriculture. It creates fragile systems with a dependence on outside inputs and a just-in-time model with zero redundancy.
>>537543327>>nigger-like behaviorwebm relIf that nigger saw a valuable genome folded 1000 times Japanese orange orchid he'd just try raping, stabbing, and burning it
>>537541511Hearto brokenu andu powerress itsa ovaridaaaHahahahaha
why are chinese and japanese so different? arent they practically the same race? the difference in behaviour is as wide as an african and a european
>>537541733Imagine denying chinks are lying and thieving little rat men. They literally see it as a virtue to rip people off and get away with it. They have izzat too just like the jeets they just have a different word for it.
>>537544109Japs are an offshoot from Korean, who are an offshoot of Chinese. Ironic to the discussion of theft, Japan was a pirate island before the Shogunate era.
Based. Fuck them Japs and their obsession with exclusive product.>you wouldnt pirate an orange would you?
>>537541511>>537541898https://youtube.com/shorts/fQrneC4u1MY?si=maSUvXKn6P9e3kxAGIBSMEDAT
>>537542360>human invests time into creating something>>(You) 'gibs me DAT'>"No, I invented it so it's mine to do with as I see fit">'You're jewish for wanting to keep it to yourself! What, was it promised to you 3000 years ago?!'Shalom
>>537541729¥500 is like $0.50
>>537544541>t. jew
>>537544541Im willing to bet you dont shill against tech CEOs for plagerizing and stealing literally everything used to train their AI models lol
>>537544541>>537542192>>537541898It's not stealing. You still have the same oranges you did before.
Jap whining only made chinks look better. That's why many became Koreanboos instead the last decade as everyone saw that only weeb retards like japshit. Now we also have Chinamaxxing.
>>537544541“IP” is pure Talmudism it’s impossible to “steal” something that isn’t physical purpose of “IP” isn’t to reward creativity but to stiffle it and create monopolies
>>537544650>but what about!Irrelevant.If you want to link to a thread on software piracy then we can have that discussion there.
>>537541511>Don't you also hope that chinese people can eat delicious fruit?no.mao should have finished the job.
>chinos stole jap 1000 times folded orange seedsWhy are they like this?
>>537544698+100 social credits have been deposited into your account
>>537544988Checked.The problem with having no protections though is as the OP has shown, Japan has footed the bill for R&D so that china can profit.Having a short grace period where the inventor has a brief monopoly is best.
>>537544698>catching upno it’s not lmao“free trade” went the way of dodo bird as soon as Chinese started being competitive in previously “exclusive” domains like car industry now in EU you have to pay extra to buy a Chinese car they defend it by ridiculous claim that Chinese government is subsidising these companies or whatever, as if FRG Ltd. isn’t fully in service of German corporations this is why I respect Chinese, they are pragmatic and they basically raped Le rules based world order in their own game West won Cold War with ruthless cynicism, aided by the fact that Soviets were too idealistic and lost in ideological dogmas (after Stalin) Chinese learned the lesson
>>537545181Don't do it with plants. If you want to manufacture a product, so be it. Most cultivars in the US are developed by colleges, not companies, and they are never protected.If you want to build your industry around growing food, it should be the from way your business is run, not by some licensed cultivar. Look into Monsanto. They literally fine people for crosspollination and seed saving.
>>537545181>I want to monopolize biology This is fucking why you people are going extinct
>>537541511Based chinks.
>>537545181>Japan has footed the bill for R&Dso? did Chinese force them to do that? developing shit solely for the purpose of rent-seeking behaviour and profiting from bullshit concept like “IP” is inherently Jewish Chinese aren’t preventing Japanese from planting these or selling them
>>537541511China is fucking over international corposEU is regulating them.Big American corpos are Jannies and they clean it up.
>>537541511What exactly makes these so special?
They’ll be poisonous, wither, die and catch fire. Pingpong players of chingchong persuasion are not competent, sub poo tier disaster cucks.
>>537545657>bullshit concept like “IP” is inherently Jewishinteresting choice of words
>>537545424>Don't do it with plantsFair enough, I knee jerk reacted and ignored nuance.>Most cultivars in the US are developed by colleges, not companies, and they are never protected.Bayer has patents on all their GMO shit.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundup_Ready>Monsanto>subsidiary of bayerI thought I've heard of them sending cease and desist orders to farmers who've had their crops contaminated with pollen from GMO fields. Not finding any cases right away.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsanto_legal_cases
>>537546329>false equivalence
>>537542433The chinese would have bought them too. its called international shipping
>>537545657Subhuman mind.
>>537545508Feel free to bring us agricultural revolutions at the expense of your time then.
>>537546329are you saying they are hypocrites?cause I’m not sure how does that relate to my point
>>537546565I literally just told you most cultivars are created by colleges and are free.
>>537546556impotent screeching by a Jew or Jew-brainwashed cattle
>>537542130Where is your evidence?I am the Queen of England.
>NOOO you can't just sell cheaper stuff Retarded statists
Imagine you guys telling Italians they cant use tomatoes and peppers because they came from somewhere else lol. Its just food you dont own it if someone thinks he can put a copyright on a fucking orange he should be hanged from an orange tree.
is this propaganda for us or against us
>behave like a leech>expect anyone to respect you Do chinkies really
>>537546634>ignores my response to his response>replies to another response to repeat himselfYou going to ignore this one too?https://web.archive.org/web/20141031215507/http://patentlyo.com/patent/2013/06/monsanto-wins-again-in-federal-circuit-organic-farmers-have-no-standing-to-challenge-patent.html
>somebody grew a fruitI do this all the time, I've taken patented Monsanto tomatoes, cross bred them, and sold the seeds on eBay. Fight me.
>>537541511>Poor kulaksfuck em
>>537541511Honestly fuck patenters and proprietary genes.
>>537542041Or a fruit variety
>>537543788Only one of those gives you ROI within your lifetime, and few would buy expensive fruit with less edible flesh if given an option. You just ignore economics. In reality, the only way what you propose could happen is as a government action that nobody would support on a universal basis so it would have to be a national food security contingency plan.
>>537545657>If I steal from you its fine, because I didn't force you to create what I stole.
>>537541511>chink W>it's just theftlel
>>537542041Well. You can be the founder of an idea, but to be the sole possessor means keeping it to yourself.
>>537541511Kek
>>537541733Seeds wont produce true to variety.
>>537546587i'm point out that disregarding property rights is 100% the jewish playbook when it suits them.
>>537544689This faggot is right.
>>537542779The Chinese haven't invented a single thing in thousands of years. They're basically a failed offshoot of the human race at this point.
>>537542423Genetically modified sterile seeds is dumber yet
>>537546634Yeah I have a bunch of lsu figs..don’t see any butthurt cajuns cryin
>>537541733It's a hybrid, you cannot reproduce it from seed. Only cuttings work.
>>537545424>Don't do it with plants.Why not? If it works in other fields, why wouldn't it work there, provided legal protections are actually enforced? IP is a proven vehicle for innovation and patent law makes the investment justifiable.>>537545657Then nobody will ever do it again and all of humanity will lose out on similar developments in the future.
>>537548113Well to be fair it's a gray area kind of thing.For example, land, products and ideas are 100% private property.But the chinx in OP's story took seeds from the oranges they bought, if I bought the fucking orange I own it's seeds and can sell it how I want.So no it's not stealing unless they literally took the oranges by force and sold them that way.
>>537541511>copyrighting a fucking plantThat's stupid. It's not art, it has value for practical reasons, ie it's grown and eaten.
>>537542178Post-petrodollar Weimerica, soon enough.
>>537547960>USA 19th century>steals every idea and copies it cheaply>industrial accidents are the norm>rich get no consequences and use armed force against unions>rich own all media and warp education with myths about bootstrapsSame as china now, just plutocrats instead of commies
>>537547404Your response was a corroboration of my post, nigger. I already said Monsanto were jews. They do not create most cultivars.Now back to you>bring us agricultural revolutions at the expense of your timeEither you understand most cultivars are created by colleges, such as LSU, Texas A&M, Auburn, etc. or you believe cultivars are made by conglomerates. Which is it? Why respond to the spic with what I quoted?
>>537541729$310 United States dollars to be precise.
>>537548354Read all of my other posts before asking me to reiterate over and over. Are you seriously defending jewish copyright law?
>>537542041Of course you can, if the law says so. Thats why you can own land and anything else. Ownership is a legal concept. In modern society, IP laws are needed to protect investment of time and money, which allows an inventor to work full-time for a company developing inventions rather than for 2 hours a night after work with low energy, which means he will probably be able to invent a hundred things in his life rather than two or three. Or even just invent them himself and sell off the rights so he can go back to inventing.
>>537548043Depends on the plant, for apples you're correct.I think most citrus is true to seed.
>>537541729>$74Maybe in India it costs that much. 500 Yen is only $3.10 USD
>>537542130Shut the fuck up retard. You're full of shit.
>>537541511>Red Princess>not redShigdiggy
>>537541511The Chinese would steal anything: designer handbags, computer software, Rolex watches, anti-aircraft rockets, airplane brake shoes, etc.Hell, they even counterfeit MILK.
>>537545102Explain
>>537542433The Chinese have mislabeled Japanese tea (matcha) to sell at cheap prices.
>>537548629You sound like a retarded communist who wants to eat the collective seed crop of humanity. IP rights allow for limited periods of exclusivity for useful inventions in exchange for disclosing how to do it. Without IP rights, there is no way to justify investment and it doesn't happen. Historically, the only recourse was often trade secrets, just keeping the how-to a secret, but that only works in some industries and is much harder with modern technology, and has historically resulted in the total loss of technology in some cases.
>>537548692Most people who invent things are poor. You're promoting usury. Actual investment is in production capability and standards.>conflates land ownership with copyrightJust admit you're a jew and let's be done.
>>537548701It still wouldn't work. Growing from seed adds 10 years to the process, that's if the plants grow at all since seeds from seedless fruit are small and weak. Plus a lot of hybrids get diseases and other problems without a resistant rootstock.
If you’ve ever pirated a video game or a movie you’re a Chinese.
>>537541874A legal state or nah? I was running on the road the other day wondering how long it would take to see them appearing in nature again if you just started seed bombing randomly around wherever there's water. Also the fact that the government stopped a plant from growing in nature in an entire country is fucking ridiculous and it is horrific
>>537548616For 100 of them.Expensive but not completely outrageous.
>>537548990I am an actual gardener and I have bred my own cultivars. I am creating my own out of pride and necessity, not for money. I would want my seed sold to everyone for their own growing and be used to create even better varieties. You are urbanite trash that has never produced anything in your life.>hurr durr ur a commie if you don't support financialization and legalismSpare me the boomerisms.
>>537548993>Most people who invent things are poor.Most people who invent things work for a decent salary for companies that would not hire them if IP law did not exist. Most of these people would not invent at all if the system did not exist, they would work their day job and unwind, or otherwise live life with their remaining time. Those few who would still invent would have to work sparingly in evenings or on weekends in between other responsibilities, with accumulated fatigue from their day job and much fewer hours to dedicate to it. Naturally there would be fewer inventions without IP. I am promoting greater innovation, more inventions, and a system where inventors can make inventing their day job.
>>537549226Good for you, but human development should not have to rely on hobbyists like you if there are systems that allow for more advancement.
Corporations are people.
>>537549251As I have repeatedly said, most cultivars created in the US are made by colleges on government research grants free for public use. You're conflating manufacturing and engineering with agriculture. You're a jew and a reddit brained moron that can only think in binaries.
>>537548945I think its more like "fuck me, fuck you, and fuck your mother"
>>537542531It was derived and based on the Chinese writing system which they originally used only phonetically, but they had their own distinct written language as far back as 800's.
>>537548539I misread >>537548539>Which is it?I did not know that colleges work to create cultivars.Apologizes.
>>537549728No problem.
>>537541511
>>537548410well the last people in japan to kill chinks were slaughtered to make way for niggers and trannys or so it goes
>>537548498
>>537541511Next time lets make The Rape of Nanking be the gangbang. I got your back Shohei, you are the only people I am willing to die for.
>>537541511On the bright side the insult has nothing to do with white people
>>537545992Japs are such jews, every harvest they manually sort out normal/subpar fruit from "premium" fruit, then they sell the "lower quality" fruit at a normal price and wrap each individual "premium" fruit in plastic and sell it at bullshit prices.
>>5375498187/10, text misses the mark
Also, something that would remedy this situation immediately would be to end free trade and impose heavy tariffs on Chinese produce, but this is heckin protectionist and le bad. This is every bit the fault of the Japanese tbqh.
>>537541511Nips deserve it , this is the Chinese century
>>537541511Based China making japcucks cry
>>537541511>Common Chinese W
>>537548996We have no idea if these are clones or hybrids or what, they could have gotten the material years ago. It could be they simply got some seeds here and there from vestigial seeds in a few crops and test grew some to see if they conformed close enough to type. So far we have what, a tik tok video to prove this? I'll wait for the genome sequencing and WTO action, if it doesn't come it's fake news or the Japs themselves just stole another citrus and didn't create a unique plant themselves, which means they won't go to court.
>>537551002America tried that multiple times, but always chickened out when they found out they need China imports to survive
>>537552097>America tried that multiple times, but always chickened out when they found out corporate profits would be affected and red line go down.ftfy
>>537545057Sounds like the usual US installment.
>>537541729>$74 for an orangeWhat's the improvement at all?
>>537548701No it isn't you dumb nigger.
>>537548955>Japanese teaNigger, it's fucking native to China and they got it from there in the first place. It's like some dumb nigger laying claim to the language of chinks because Japan changed it around a bit. You're not entitled to profits. Copyright on fucking naturally growing material, and infinitely reproducible digital products (which you don't even legally owned after purchasing) is the most fucking jewish thing ever conceived of.
>>537541511AGAIN !
>>537541729>$74 for an orange. Can you fuck off please>>537542178>In which turd world shit hole is 500 yen equal to 74 dollars?>>537548616>$310 United States dollars to be precise.>>537542323>500 JPY is like $3 what are you talking about?Still, in North America you see things like grocery shoppers buying a single piece of fruit, and fruits sold by the unit instead of weight.Although we have it, it's outrageously expensive for good fresh produce in America.You can save a little money getting a bag of crappy oranges or apples, or whatever, but you won't enjoy them, better off taking a multivitamin.
>>537548616>three hundred ten dollars United States dollars
>>537544689>stolen saplingsYou'd have a point if they bought them or used sees from the fruit (if the seed is even fertile)
>>537548955>matcha>Japanese tea It's Chinese, and the powdered method is from the Song Dynasty.
>>537548498Don’t forget they also put children to work on the mines And had slave labor camps. Just like china.
You wouldn't download an orchard.
>>537541898If that's communism I'm all for it
Ching Chong Copedex (for IP theft)Origin"Actually, this fruit originated in China AD200 Ping Pong dynasty period."Lying"We don't steal. You steal."Gloat"China makes your products.""You should thank China. They make stuff cheap and convenient for your country."Unapologetic "What's the problem? Everyone copies. That's how it goes."
>>537554702Kek
>>537553658Where the fuck do you live that the produce isn't absolutely fuckin' delightful? Shit's great in Southeast Wisconsin. Though, I guess to be fair, Wisconsin has largely been immune to the financial turmoil most of the world has been experiencing for some weird reason or another.
>>537554536You know things can be originally invented somewhere but later become associated with a different place because it's more common/famous there, right? Nobody looks at China in the modern age and thinks about any of the shit Japan made famous that technically originally came from China. Your example being one of them.
>>537554840>copedex
>>537554840All based don't see chink crying about peach, orange or kiwi being stolen from them.
>>537545508This is why your country is a third-world shithole run by cartels.Having a temporary monopoly on innovation encourages innovation, something the japs and the West have figured out but the rest of the world clearly not.
>>537555048Easy, don't be such an uneducated monkey.
I hate China.
>>537555048lol it's still chink regardless jap should stop being thieves
>>537555133Read the thread before posting.
>>537542423>Copyrighting plant breeds is probably the most retarded concept ever invented.Why? because you're a thieving little shit that thinks someone should spend years creating the conditions to grow something just so you can come along and snatch it without putting any work in yourself?
>>537541898kike alert
>>537554953>Where the fuck do you live that the produce isn't absolutely fuckin' delightfulnta; the area I'm in is an "agricultural" area but all the farmland I've seen is used for cash crops that are exported (corn, basedbean). There are local farmers markets that run through summer for good produce but none of the supermarkets sell local produce.
>>537541511Japan should retaliate by unleashing a plague on the chinks crops
China unironically deserves to starve.
>>537555133>"innovation">designer orangeshava nagila right back at ya
>>537555499>>537555921cry about it to your rabbi nigger mutt
>>537541898Everything about Japanese culture is stolen from China. Even anime if you dig deep enough.
>>537541511And then polchuds have the gall to ask why Japanese people massively prefer Indians to stealing, lying chinks.>>537541729>>537541733>>537541874>>537541898
>>537556047>jeets dont steal
>>537555164You should've been more thorough 90 years ago.
>>537541511There is literally nothing wrong with chinks growing and maintaining fucking fruits. lmfao
>>537556137Yeah no we don't shamelessly steal intellectual property of other nations that takes hundreds of millions of $ to develop. You are chinkmussrat
>>537542340Retard.
>>537555938Why wouldn't it qualify? You can still grow and buy other oranges, you just can't grow or buy theirs. Obviously there is some benefit if people are willing to pay a premium. You shouldn't get to be a free rider on their development unless they choose to give it away.
