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https://youtu.be/7Eeo-82Eac8?t=5733

Is it because atheists are useful idiots enabling them and other satanic cults? I mean even muslims understand that you can reach the certainty of the creator through initiation into the mysteries and attaining Ma'rifa (gnosis).
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For those who don’t know, the French Revolution was actually a masonic coup d'état that resulted in secularism, weakened Christendom and allowed for satanic Freemasons and their Jewish masters to take control of every part of society.

"The Secret Powers Behind Revolution" is a fascinating book that explains all of this.
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Testimony of a man reaching ma'rifa after the khalwa. The goal of attaining ma'rifa/gnosis/jnana, an intuitive knowledge of reality as it truly, is the same goal shared by all mystical sects and ancient soteriological cults like the mithraic mysteries. It was often symbolized by the removal of the veil in ancient pagan traditions, such as the Cult of Isis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veil_of_Isis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjWCmVHmdLw
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If your interest lies in getting initiated into the Western system of magick as a solo practitioner, your best bet is the Golden Dawn system.

https://archive.org/details/copy-of-self-initiation-into-the-golden-dawn-tradition-a-complete-cirriculum-of-

You can self-initiate into it, and modern magickal orders such as the Temple of Set, O.T.O., and others are based on the Golden Dawn system. However, you shouldn’t lose track of the fact that the main purpose of Western ceremonial magick is to complete the Great Work, symbolized in the Kabbalistic Tree of Life by the final sephirah. In Dharmic traditions, it corresponds to the moksha, in Sufism, it is represented by reaching the primordial state of al-Insan al-Kamil, the "Perfect Man" and in Daoism, it is the completion of the alchemical elixir.

However, if your goal is purely soteriological, you might as well get initiated into a tariqa.
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>>537544677
I'm not promoting a cult or anything. The Golden Dawn system is simply a spiritual and magical system, you don't have to subscribe to a specific set of beliefs or join any organization to study it. There are modern Golden Dawn derived groups that are explicitly Christian, while others adopt more Satanic or occult interpretations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpV7wfwMIiE

Personally, I encourage everyone to accept the message of Islam, reject the worship of anything other than God, and submit to God's will. In fact, for those seeking a soteriological goal such as salvation, spiritual realization, or union with the Divine, I would recommend seeking initiation into a Sufi tariqa rather than pursuing ceremonial magic.
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>>537544472
Atheists are retards. Now that their religion of nothing has been exposed as faggotry and being shabbos goys, they all pretend to be pagans, so they can recycle their old talking points all over again.
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>>537544742
Islam is the original goy noahide system created by talmudist jews
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pump
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>>537544472
1. esau gambit meme.jpg
2. You are a freemason and you need to fuck off to India where shitheads like you belong
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>>537544742
>poor man's samefagging
Those are all freemasonic groups (promoting feminism, communism, atheism, jeet & arab immigration) , chud, why don't you fuck off?
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Truth scares away the druggie faggot.
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>>537544742
There is no secret. The light eater you swear loyalty to is Lucifer. The royal secret is raping kids.

Freemasons are domestic terrorist pedophiles who follow kabbalah. Jabulon or whatever your secret demon faggot name is.
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Freemasons and Jews rape kids.
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>>537544472
because they believe in a fake god and they know they cant prove hes real so instead of arguing, presenting arguments etc. they just use ad hominems.
truth is the freemason god is as fake as the jewish god and all the other non existing gods.
its fake. these jews probably know it too but they cope and seethe.
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>>537544472
Says the guy who probably worships a rabbi. Of course the Freemasons hate atheists because when you're not brainwashed into their cult or all the other denominations of Christianity, that means they have no power over you. Make no mistake, Freemasonry is simply splinted off from Judaism (a Jewish desert cult) that uses biblical references, worships a "God" and has plenty of it's own loony practices. Reminds me of the Mormons really; another cult birthed by a single man (Joseph Smith) that is another denomination of Christianity and managed to brainwash a tonn of sheeple.

If there's one other thing they all have in common, it's that all of these cultists hate a free thinking white man.
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>>537550831
Whites who choose a religion whether freemasonry or Christianity are the free thinkers
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>>537544472
Freemasons are niggers who believe laws are fake and abuse the courts to fuck over average people because they can't handle the fact that their wives aren't satisfied with them with being retarded cucks for jews. Its a dead secret society meant for aging boomers who think they're special because they know a judge who will back them in the courts. They can honestly go kill themselves, I have never met more sadder people in my life.
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>>537544472
Because there is higher powers, intelligence agency backed billionaires like Epstein seem to think so.
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>>537551699
They rape kids and their occupation of courts is domestic terrorism and an insurrection. Same people protectijg Jeffery Epstein's clients.
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>lol
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>...
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>>537544472
Atheism is logic turbomaxxed.
But the issue with overextended logic is that our brain doesn't have the capacity to understand this reality, it's just a survival machine, not an Universe deciphering machine.
I was an atheist. Atheism is a conflict that arises when you try to integrate a dogmatic religion. Above room temperature IQ you'll see that organized religions are a construct and that "God" in any of them is an anthropomorphized entity with whims and judgements and mood swings like a period foid.
So religion becomes a mechanism of uniformity. You're being conditioned to fear the unknown(death, judgement, punishment e.t.).
A decently smart individual can smell this trap from a mile away but if arrogant he will conclude that there is nothing else and all religions are shams. And he embraces materialistic views. If his existence is also not so cheerful, cynicism and nihilism will follow suit.
And cynicism and nihilism are not some deeply philosophical views but rather the polar opposite of indifferent normie mentality(live, love, laugh).
You're not detaching from reality, you're digging deeper into the lower frequencies.

And if the 33 club follows a gnostic religion it makes sense to laugh at atheists because gnosis requires 'pulling out' your soul. A logically hyper focused atheist won't work even a little bit in the direction of awakening. So he'll run blind in this existence, fully concentrated on senses and logic. A smart animal but an animal nonetheless.

Dogmatic practitioners at least have some sort of connection to God. They might misinterpret God, they might not be empty of desire or stable enough to reach gnosis but they are in the door. They can see the light of God, they just have a lot of earthly misconceptions.
But no matter how folly the 33s consider atheists I can't understand how folly they are to try playing architects with societies and minds, with their dualities and schemes and their desire for friction as a means to evolution
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>>537544472
They’re a Jewish op. They need you believing in one sect of Judaism. Stay in the Abrahamic fold anon, even the Freemasons think it’s good
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>>537553898
Then why are atheists relentlessly illogical?
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>>537544472
GOD calls atheists retards.
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>>537544472
I wish someone would cut this down to just the talking parts. There has to be a solid hour of just celebrity’s doing le spooky symbol?
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>>537544472
Masons are gnostics. Think about it for a second. If you believe in god, you’re going to assume that other people that have different religions are just interpreting the same spiritual phenomena in different ways. To them, an atheist who denies all spirituality will be seen as dumber than those trying to figure out the truth.
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>>537554249
>To them, an atheist who denies all spirituality will be seen as dumber than those trying to figure out the truth.
That's because he is
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>>537553898
I see them as retards for similar reasons they consider atheists 'tards for.
God IS, everywhere, at any Planck second, watching and being the source of every timeline. There's not even the question of what we'll do because even in the case of branching timelines HE sees and IS all.
I don't even want to try understanding their logic of playing ping pong with polarities, trying to force steer this reality thinking they are rigging the game.

So as they consider atheists folly for their ultra materialism I consider them folly for the desire to force God's hand(lol). As if an omnipotent and omniscient entity will ever be put in the position of having his hand forced by an irradiance of HIS eternity that resides in a hairless apes body.
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>>537554068
Most atheists I read and the ones I talked to, which greatly influenced me in my younger years, tackle religion as a mathematical proof.
i.e. if I can prove that the books your religion is based on has lies then your religion is entirely false.
The 6k years old world. Existence of dinosaurs. The creation of the Universe and so on.

They see religion just at face value. A dogmatic and ritualistic practice that formed due to myth and desire for control.
I don't see them as retarded but rather misguided.

Personally I don't consider them to be lesser or worse, but I try to evaluate the difficulty of jumping from that path to a relation to God and it's not an easy journey. It's an extremely difficult journey even when you purposefully try...
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>>537555398
>i.e. if I can prove that the books your religion is based on has lies

Okay but they never actually do this, they just think they did because they are illogical.
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>>537544472
Freemasons are salty because they engage in anal sex to try to invite demons into their bodies while fedora tippers just tip fedoras.
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>>537544472
Because only a retard would deny the existence of god
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>>537555855
That’s not quite right. The word you are looking for is reprobate, not retard.
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Questions from an atheist:
What is god?
Where is god?
Why is god?
Why won't it reveal itself and directly interact?
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>>537555398
>i.e. if I can prove that the books your religion is based on has lies then your religion is entirely false.
This is true though. The idea that you should follow any of the edicts or moral values of a religion rests on the idea that they were attained by divine revelation, and divine revelation in turn rests on the idea that there is a divine which could deliver such revelations. Religions do not rest on evidence aside from that, they do not argue from reason like philosophy and they don't pretend to. Maybe not every religion but definitely the main Abrahamic religions on offer state that they are to be accepted on faith in the divine nature of the revelations contained within their teachings and books.
>These come from the creator of the universe, therefore you should listen to them.

Because there is that one narrow path between religions and the source of the authority they claim justifies themselves, if that narrow path doesn't exist, then the religions themselves lose all authority. They become roughly equivalent with a children's book. Sure you can save the religion from total destruction by claiming it's metaphorical or something, and not based on anything actually true, but then you're stuck justifying it using reason like a philosophy and you might as well just start with philosophy instead of the rantings of desert nomads.

This is where we get into the various murmurings you're alluding to in your post, ideas like
>Well it's useful
or
>It has beauty
or
>It's a hard and rewarding path to follow
and I'm sure pushing down your natural skepticism so you can fit in with a crowd of other theists is difficult in some sense, but just being difficult doesn't make it correct. And I'd wager that conforming to a group is easier for most people than not conforming.

A useful, beautiful or rewarding falsehood is still false, and I know theists among themselves do not discuss their religion as though they know it's fake. They just smooth that over in public.
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>>537556432
>what
The creator of our existence
>where
It’s possible concepts like “where” don’t apply outside of our existence
>why
By (our) necessity. Beyond that I don’t know how we could answer that.
>reveal
This is a universal constant
>interact
I would need a more clear definition.
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>>537544472
Why freemasons choose to be separated from God never makes sense. They instead make contracts with liars.
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>>537544472
>Why do Freemasons call atheists retards?
A mix of projection and seething at their intellectual superiors.
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>>537550831
>Mormonism is a denomination of freemasonry
>Freemasonry is a retread of judaism
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>>537544472
If masons are the devil worshippers, why would you take their opinion about atheists seriously?
Have you considered that they look down at atheists, because they aren't as smart as they think they are?
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Freemasons are filthy nigger loving kike rats
Who really cares about what a gaymason thinks?
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>>537544472
Freemasons are mommy worshippers, women are gods to these retards.



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