New thread text, suggestions welcome:Factors and Probable events:-CBC, CTV, Global all critical of a Liberal government, which is unusual-PrescribeIT (launched during Trudeau's leadership) costing $250M and not used often-majority loss due to by-elections-start of recession-racial power political-interest-groups rising and rioting-Liberal caucus infighting becoming publicly known-MPs leaving, due to political pressure-provinces seceding-MPs rebelling - Carney does not entertain disagreement among his caucus-Trump harming Ontario auto workers, by limiting trade-infrastructure, such as Calgary's water system, having 25-50% capacity losses for months, in recent years-increasing taxes, increasing public sector employment, decreasing capital investment, population declineCarney announcing plan to purchase 2500 condos did $3.2 in British Columbia.https://www.timescolonist.com/real-estate/carney-and-eby-announce-32b-developer-subsidy-plan-to-buy-unsold-bc-condos-12442807The stage is set, lads.It's just a matter of time.
Share your thoughts about the events immediately preceding the downfall of Carney and/or his government.
>>537559484fuck himfyi /pol/ ... the vancouver developers are some of the biggest liberal donors in the country. thats why they are gettin a bailout. also hongkouver is filled with CCCP chink scum, another reason for the bailout. Carney cant let his drug dealing chinese gangster freinds lose any money.all this while I listen to the CBC tell me "capitalism is bad"fuckin clownworld
>>537559484Stfu you well poisoning kike on a vpn
>>537559484Freeland or whatever goblin he has doing his bidding would just become PM. If we had an election the liberals would win a minority again.
>>537559484>something is going to happen>if something happens, it will be karma relatedyou must be new here retard (pic related, thats (you) )
>>537559484There is an elite civil war going on in Canada atmCarney was an upset choice and apparently a lot of the Trudeau era MPs hate himHe’s also a bit authoritarian in how he deals with things which is making the provinces upset.I do appreciate his authoritarian stance and kicking out the left-lib losers, but honestly I think Canada is deeply unstable behind the curtains, far more than the average Normalfag or boomer realizes.Most old boomers don’t have a clue what’s going on, that the old world they have lived in their entire lives is ending and this is just the last gasp of the old elite to hold onto their power.What will be the outcome? I think the mainstream conservatives are dead, however they have a powerful minority bloc in their camp supported by the Canada Strong foundation who is ready to pounce once the centrists break down so they have a possibility to take power in a major upset.Perhaps Carney and his mask-off elitism can hold onto power and enact a sort of pseudo-fascist blairite government, the kind which tony blair himself actively promotes right now. Perhaps the left-libs take back power and we return to the slow rot we have seen for the past 2 decades now, possibly sped up by the increasing disintegration of the State into an anarcho-tyranny mess.I think these are the three realistic options, barring something unexpected like a US invasion or a genuine revolution, either actual fascist or communist seems possible to me.In the latter case, where we go back to social-libs in charge, I imagine the country just dissolving and chunks joining the USA piecemeal.
>>537559484I hate the globalist regime.
>>537559484We patiently await your downfall and eventual applications for statehood.
>>537559484Cope and seethe, losers! Carney's in charge until 2029 at the earliest.
>>537562808Recession until 2029. 51st state in 2030.
>>537562799do u really want them u silly nigger
>>537559484There is genuinely no way out of this hole for Canada barring a revolution of some kind, either a total Elite revolt where one group takes over in a dictatorial way, or a popular uprising of some kind installing a new counter-elite.The 3 main factions in order of strength at the moment are:1. The Blairite “dark liberals” who want a technocracy, they are the strongest and most organized but also the smallest elite caste.2. The Imperial Loyalist conservatives who want to reform Canada into a militaristic state in order to better align with the New American Empire.3. The Christian fundamentalists who are gaining more and more influence and power in Canada as their old allegiance to the Liberal mainstream is effectively broken.4. A long shot at the moment but the Labour movement and some sort of socialist/communist bloc, which effectively doesn’t exist now but could possibly have a lot of power due to the historic influence of Labour on Canadian politics.The “historic” soft-liberal elite is basically dead and ineffective, it can only rule in a vacuum so long as other groups lack power to take down its institutional control.
>>537562921Nice fanfic. Canada will continue being more or less the same, mostly run by the natural governing party (Liberals), making policies that sustain the wealth and comfort of the middle class, made up of people that are not failure-to-launch shut-in terminally online autists. Try it sometime!
>>537563353Canada will likely just remain in a state of managed decline until it effectively ceases to exist. It's just a banana republic underneath it all.
>>537562867Our autism over borders knows no bounds.
>>537562647>>537562921I can't see the future so I don't know what's gonna happen, but I am pretty certain that if Alberta secedes (doesn't matter if it's to stay independent or just a smokescreen to join the US), I see Canada as being completely toast. Given that pretty much everyone in Canada lives on the Southern border with the US, losing Alberta means losing continuous transport between the east and west coasts of Canada. Technically you could go north around Alberta, but... there's no infrastructure there, so it's just not feasible. I think this would impose such a great economic cost that it will basically just seal the deal and guarantee further dissolution of Canada into smaller states.It's not looking likely that the Alberta secession will succeed, but man... even a 1% chance of success has got to be terrifying the liberals in power given that they're basically staring down the barrel of a shotgun. Or maybe they don't care at all, and they think they can just whip Alberta into shape. Who knows. But whatever the case, I am pretty confident of the fact that the liberals are completely out of touch with what the population at large both feels and wants, so no matter they try to do, I imagine it's gonna blow up in their faces.
>>537559728Idk man, im kind of waiting for the [PRIVATE NUMBER] And white person to call me and let me know if (this) is something I need to worry about, all good, or just an internal op they used me as bait for.Its actually fucking hilarious when you think of the long term geopolitical implications.
>>537562921>Dark Liberal Faction.Okay, thats fucking awesome im defecting from Classic Liberal (Fascism) to Dark Liberal (Fascism2).Can we get Light Second Sons, and Darker-green Domsoc next?
That's why I'm saving up for my homestead in the Yukon.
>>537563353You are fucktarded up the ass of you thin the wealth is being maintained. It is managed decline and it won't stop because it is being intentionally caused by the globalist regime.
>>537562647>but honestly I think Canada is deeply unstable behind the curtains,Yes. Muh pensions essentially forced a hard decision, also with the boomers refusing to train anyone except TFW's, we will have a terminal shortage of skilled workers in the next 5y, if it reaches a critical point it makes it so we are fucked as a nation, we already lack the manpower and trade numbers to do the nation building required, and even then once people find out its for 1/6th of what the boomers got, ontop of having to pay for them and free Healthcare being a wealth transfer from everyone to the boomer....Math doesnt add up. This isnt even factoring in lack of rail transportation and ability to get goods to market or even harvest them outside of the cities and designated resource zones.Your also going to see a paper barrier, if you already dont where boomers do all the talking and then constantly kick anyone in the face who doesnt have every paper they need to do X job,
>>537559484the word you want is dissolution for future reference.
Also with the new revisions to muh building code the days of boomers being able to sell their house with a firm handshake and "just make it look nice" is fucking OVER.DO NOT BUY BOOMER HOUSES.YOU WILL BE LEFT WITH THE REPAIR BILL, MOST FOUNDATIONS IN THE BOOMER ERA ARE FAILING NOW.That being said, muh capital gains tax means you no longer have any reason or incentive to help,look after, or care for boomers.
>>537559484He's already proven that he'll just buy whoever the fuck he needs to. If he's desperate, it'll just be any and all pajeet MPs.
>>537562748Same .Canada fucking wasted so much potential on fucking nothing and in fact actively made their country worse instead
>>537565065If alberta leaves, quebec will leave. Canada would just be done at that point obviously.
>>537567283Alberta won't leave the separtists are mostly all hired foreigners, the entire campaign is a propaganda fraud. Imagine being tricked into abandoning your country by India and Pakistan.
>>537562647Nobody believe these glownigger misdirection narratives. We know that the elite are a united bloc for the Jewish agenda
>>537562808You're in this thread coping and seething about the fact we're saying things you don't like, and there's nothing you can do about it faggot
>>537568426Lol your apocalypse fantasies won't save you buddy! Reality remains undefeated. Try it sometime!
>>537568764Lol you're still crying about the fact we're discussing things you don't like. Be less of a faggot. Try it sometime!
>>537559484>-CBC, CTV, Global all critical of a Liberal government, which is unusualUnusual? It's unheard of. CBC being critical of the Liberal Regime would be like Ben Shapiro being critical of Israel.
>>537568835>discussingBy discussing you mean your only two posts in this thread are acting butthurt that I'm stating facts to you? LOL Remarkable!
You Canadian conservative chaps don't have a future.
>>537559484Couldve bought 4 of these and used them to mine lignite on banks island for the chinese. I highly doubt the chinese care more about their shadowbanking ponzi than energy and the golden waterway.The lets just leave crowd is correct. The elite need all their empires burned down to the ground again to cure their hubris and resentment.
>>537559484I've spitballed before that Trump's cold feet on CUSMA is due to us implementing age verification
>>537569090Don't matter. Canada's chosen to turn the entire country into a visajeet scam center.
why won't the masses vote the way we tell them to vote
>>537569135Only the thin cement strip that their grandparents built. They wouldnt know what to do once the gas stations stop popping up
>>537568954"Try it sometime!" "Remarkable!"Do you end every point in an exclamation? Does your blood boil when you overhear private conversations about things you don't like? Are you a colossal faggot? Reply to confirm exactly that.
>>537569271You're still not "discussing" Canadian politics? You're still exclusively getting enraged at my posts? LOL. Truly a deranged individual folks!
>>537569399And you're still replying. Thus confirming you are indeed a colossal faggot. Holy fuck, you even busted out the big guns; deranged and folks. You're so fucking gay lol
>>537569491LOL What an intelligent source of political "discussion" he is folks! Aren't we glad to have him in the thread? It's safe to assume that getting angry is the limit of his mental ability! Better luck next time!
>>537569607Think they're glad to have you the thread? One minute you're thumbing your nose at them because your side is currently in power (with no help from you most likely lol), and the next minute you're pandering and condescending to a non-existent crowd. You, specifically, sound and act like a loser. Which is why you keep supplying me with (you)s because I've hit too close to home lol
>>537569837He returns to ad hominem and grade school insults in an impotent rage, folks! He can't handle disagreement. He can't formulate an argument. They're not sending they're best!
>>537559484Carney has a 66% approval rating and the conservatives are perma-unelectable, what the fuck are you talking about?
>>537569920Folks this folks that. You haven't made an argument this entire thread lol. Go on, reply in the same fake and gay manner again, put all your energy and effort into providing me (you)s faggot :^)
>>537570138And he's illiterate too folks! >>537562808>>537564434Take pity on this poor, enraged, retarded soul! He can't help himself!
>>537569116The main problem for the Americans wanting to toss CUSMA is that the car parts industry in Ontario is gigantic, much much more important than the assembly plants we have that get all the attention in the media. Magna is a massive company, and there is also Linamar and Multimac plus all the small companies servicing them.
>>537570138Uhoh! >>537570095He let one slip through, folks! We can't have disagreement about Canadian politics in a Canadian politics discussion thread! What will our enraged retard do now? Continuing with impotent insults is the safe bet!
>>537570226Lol you're describing yourself there dude. Doesn't matter how much fake exasperation you dress it up in
>>537570322Carney may trigger the fuck out of Canadian conservatives but he would be a massive step up for Australia. Our PM is still in the 'what does America want and how can I be as subservient as possible' mode
>>537570375Agreed. As you can see, Carney triggers the fuck out of this poor enraged retard.>>537570368You think a Carney could unfuck what's going on in Straya?
>>537562138>If we had an election the liberals would win a minority again.Because there is no one else to vote for since the Conservatives are just Blue Liberals, and the other provinces refuse to make their own Bloc parties to join Quebec in dismantling the Fed
>>537570455Australia won't even consider purchasing armaments from any country other than the US. The Canadian purchase of Saab Gripens is a breath of fresh air. Carney even offered to be in a middle powers trade agreement with Australia, which our PM apparently rejected because it would upset the US and we never heard anything about it again. Australia is so under the US boot it's disgusting.
Good to see every Canada thread has to have the one unpaid jeet desperately trying to derail
>>537570520What's the US' leverage? >>537570245Some argue the point of throwing out (or throwing into uncertainty) USMCA is to prod those car parts companies to relocate to the US. I don't see why they wouldn't, other than capital costs. But if the US is their long-term major market, they might have to bite the bullet.
>>537570561LOL>>537570368
>>537570640They have our country effectively occupied with military bases. Also they're holding AUKUS over us, nuclear submarines that we were promised, but realistically are never coming.
>>537570245Same with airplane parts in Quebec. Airplanes is one of the USAs last manufactured exports and a ton of materials and parts for em zig zag across the border here because of our cheap power.Cheap power which Trump is doing the opposite of solving right now with the data center push. Even a 40% tariff on those parts wouldn't make it economically viable to make in the USA considering power costs went up 40% in most border ststes.
>>537570687Interesting. Canada is/was in a similar situation with our economy so closely dependent on the US. But the recent overplaying of that leverage has caused some real backlash, to try and get out from that yoke. Maybe something gets overplayed to cause a change in Aus. Rumours that US intelligence played a role in previous Aus politics. You'd think we would be just as susceptible, if not more.
>>537570640>companies to relocate to the US.Power costs
>>537559484>un Canadathe fact that Canada isn't a feminine noun bothers me greatly
>>537570857Power is a minor contributor to the overall cost of manufacturing goods. You're overestimating its importance. 40% increase in tariff is not offset by 40% cheaper power.
>>537570843>Rumours that US intelligence played a role in previous Aus politics.They straight up overthrew our government in 1975, because the PM at the time tried to get rid of the US bases from the country. Yes, really. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alleged_CIA_involvement_in_the_Whitlam_dismissalThat's almost certainly why our PM is so timid. Probably reminded by someone in Trump's admin that they will do it again if there's any noncompliance.
>>537563353>sustaining comfort and wealth of the middle classThe gaslighting here is pure chutzpah, generally the people who are most likely to be statists are the ones who rely on the state the most, aka the failure-to-launch shut-in terminally online autists. Most people who fit that description are libtard statists, you stupid jew faggot. Anyone who remotely leans right is far more likely to work for a living. They have been destroying the comfort and wealth of the middle class for a long time. You have no clue wtf you’re talking about and you should kys
>>537570960>Want to open up a new parts factory because of tariffs.>Power bill going up 30% per year with no end in sight.>Get outbid on every lot for the factory by data centers willing to pay twice what you can.>No water access.>Infrastructure sucks.>Massive over regulation while the data centers go up with 0 oversight.Trump wants to repatriate industrial production but made it impossible to do with the data center rush.
>>537571094Nice series of unfounded assumptions, faggot. Stick around and, who knows, you might learn something. Thanks for playing!
>>537571159>shits up the entire thread talking like a fagYeah i did learn something, you’re a delusional retarded loser that’s projecting.>unfounded assumptionsI can guarantee you’re vaxxed. You have absolutely no rebuttal because i described exactly who you are lmfao
>>537571447Anything to say about Canadian politics or just impotent ad hominem because my post triggered you? We're waiting.
>>537568305If they are actually all united behind the scenes then you are totally out of luck and shouldn't even waste your time caring at all.Across the non-american anglo west this same sort of division exists, though the specific factions vary, the mainstream liberals (in Canada this includes the tories and liberals of the “centre”) are totally dead politically but still have whatever leftover momentum behind them, mostly provided by the huge elderly bloc who wants absolutely zero changes
>>537571538>thanks for playing!>we’re waiting!Jesus christ i bet i could kick your faggot ass with one hand, stfu. I already told you that you’re dead wrong about the middle class. Even libshits have been complaining about the destruction of the middle class and impossibility of owning a home for atleast the past 10 years. You’re a god damn clueless retard with a double digit iq. Now go get your umpteenth booster you worthless faggot.
>>537569210The CPC is a total joke, idk why any serious “right winger” would support them, even comparing them to American republicans is a laugh.At least the Repubs differ SOMEWHAT from the dems and donMr just follow the same policies and ideals exactly.
>>537563353That is just not possible without serious changes.I think Carney represents one attempt at a sort of change from inside.Remember Carney is a London banker and deep with international financial elites, he and Tony Blair are also closely connected and both praise each other up and down.To see who Carney is it’s useful to see what Tony Blair wants, and what he wants as of late is basically mask-off liberal authoritarianism with just a bit of a softer veneer to avoid full-on fascism. I think this is what carney is going for, punishing the more idealistic Liberals who want to keep going with social justice initiatives and green politics, removing Guilbeault is a major sign of this as he has been the largest green politics promoter for a decade and a massive roadblock for any kind of development or sensible policy.Arguably the fires of the past several years have been his fault since he blocked provinces from being able to cut dead forests due to beetle infestations for environmental reasons.Now does this mean we all should be team Carney? No, not if you aren’t an insider at least. But he is a force for change and arguably a preferable force verses the established order.My hope is that these elites will fight each other and allow a new counter-elite to rise against them.I mentioned who these counter-elites might be, but none of them have the power at the moment to make a genuine play for power.Understanding elite politics and your possible role in them is more useful than crying and peeing yourself while doing Nothing because brown people and jews exist.Imo both Liberal factions are unlikely to win, as the established faction is frankly dead already and just coasting on inertia, while the rebel Blairite technocrats are too unlikeable and tiny which makes them vulnerable, not to mention lacking deep talent pools to pull from or firm allies to call on.They would need to make a deal with some other faction to be successful.
