There is not a single party in america or europe that has tried to go after the Central banks in our countries. I would become a lifetime member of any party that did it. This use to be the stance of the Democrats. Wtf happened to that?
>>537602938we haven't had a USD reserve in like 20 years or so
>>537602938
>>537602938>beliefYou think it's a belief that people pay taxes in dollars? Or that people sell oil for dollars? >Everything's a social construct, even your resistance or submission to forceyeah buddy anarcho paradise
>>537602938Bro! If you just imagine! Yes just imagine for a little bit bro! That your monopoly dollar. Yea this one right here! That this has value! Then yea bro! They’re totally the same thing bro! It’s is only YOUR BELIEF that one has more value than the other!
>>537602938it's not my belief that gives one more value. it's everybody else's.
>>537602938fascism is the way
>>537603425And for your question. Something Jews something something assassinate JFK, something something Jews
>>537602938>mono poly>e pluribus unum
>>537602938The funny thing is there are fewer monopoly notes than usd notes.
>>537602938The whole "it's just paper bro" argument has got to be the most room temp IQ take on money ever. Browns and Women make this argument all the time. There's so many issues with FIAT but the whole "it's just paper bro" is not one of them.
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>>537602938Because they’d be killed
Ones backed by guns and bombs. It's not make believe when there are real guns and bombs.
Can you lay out your reasoning why you think central banks should be abolished?
>>537602938Monopoly Dollars are way more rare.Scarcity is key, no one ever printed trillions of Monopoly Dollars.I wonder what the ratio of Monopoly Dollars to US Dollars printed has been each year?
>>537604234Violence backed currency.Borrow or die!
>>537602938Central banks control all 160 nations / their governments, heads of state globally.former U.K. prime minister explains what-who actually runs, controls their country (no, it's not the government or monarchy):https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/522930520watch ^interview
>>537603792It's just paper.
>>537604378>central banks should be abolished(for one example, a couple hours ago 1st part of this interview Jim Rickards):>https://rumble.com/v7bnz9ehttps://rumble.com/v7bnz9eIt's a complex topic. Not going to be answered to completion on this 4chan thread
>>537604634>no one ever printed trillions of Monopoly Dollarshold on, I have to check this>Hasbro prints approximately $30 billion in Monopoly money every year. >currently>90 year history>no way printed 30B for most of that timethis kind of math is over my head but it's probably not a trillion
>>537603792use the word intrinsic while doing this
Meanwhile one SPD constitutional judge candidate actually wanted to give the central bank of Germany some legislative powers.
>>537602938Using a current Monopoly Classic retail price of about $17–$23 and Hasbro’s standard bank of 210 total bills - 30 each of $500, $100, $50, $20, $10, $5, and $1 - the “cost” per Monopoly bill is roughly:$17 / 210 = $0.081$23 / 210 = $0.109So one physical Monopoly $1 bill costs about 8–11 US cents if you divide the game price only across the paper money. Hasbro lists 30 $1 bills and 210 total bills in the standard bank. Current US price listings for Monopoly Classic are around $16.99–$22.99.If you divide the cost across all pieces in the box - board, cards, tokens, dice, houses, hotels, deeds, bills - then a single bill’s share is lower, probably around 5–7 cents.So the best answer is: about $0.08–$0.11 per Monopoly bill, or roughly a dime.Closest match: Moroccan dirham - MAD.As of today’s live rate:1 Moroccan dirham ≈ $0.107 USDThat lines up almost perfectly with the earlier estimate that one Monopoly bill physically costs around $0.08–$0.11.Very close runners-up:> 1 MAD - Moroccan dirham $0.1071 SEK - Swedish krona $0.1041 NOK - Norwegian krone $0.103
>>537602938They both have a value of one though
>>537602938I don’t know how you could realistically do that without violence. This system has made a lot of people extremely powerful too, so it’s not like 1 or 10 or 100 or even 1000 people can ungabunga our way out of it even if they were willing to do the needful.
>>537605345So... you don't know? Other than having watched hours of schizo ramblings on youtube? You can't even write down one single argument?
>>537602938>I would become a lifetime member of any party that did it. This use to be the stance of the Democrats. Wtf happened to that?Alan Grayson was kicked the fuck out of the party, that's what happened to that>Former U.S. Congressman Alan Grayson is best known for his fierce opposition to the Federal Reserve's lack of transparency during the 2008 financial crisis. As a representative for Florida, he spearheaded efforts to force the Fed to publicly disclose which institutions received hundreds of billions of dollars in bailout funds.>Key Actions & ControversiesThe "I Don't Know" Exchange (2009): Grayson gained national attention during a House hearing when he repeatedly asked Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke which foreign banks and entities received $500 billion in bailout loans. When Bernanke repeatedly stated he did not know, Grayson's viral questioning highlighted the institution's lack of accountability.>Push to Audit the Fed: He co-sponsored a landmark audit amendment with Rep. Ron Paul, successfully passing a provision out of the House Financial Services Committee to have the Government Accountability Office (GAO) audit the central bank’s emergency lending programs.>"K Street Whore" Remark: Grayson courted intense controversy during a 2009 radio interview when he referred to a senior Federal Reserve adviser as a "K Street whore" for her previous lobbying ties. He later apologized for the remark
>>537604378because counterfeiting houses are allegedly illegal
>>537605176So many shills in this thread kek. Controlling FIAT is power.
>>537605913kek
>>537606273/pol/ doesn't understand how 21st century power operates, functionsThey think its some kind of cultural-political thing.(<--those are downstream of the central bank seat of power)
>>537606185It's already getting there anyway. The money is fake. It's just a matter of who chooses to call it out.
>>537606202>2 pbtid unintelligible Switzerland FAGGOT BRAINLET SCHIZO "muh argument">(it's an argument a priori that's why we're even online *because it is by definition an """"""""""""""argument""""""""""""")kek'I accept your concession'? Is that the next post, ****FUCK TARD****?back to boomerbook plebbit x whereever (You) came from
That's not how credit money works. You might as well say that a share is worth as much as 1 monopoly banknote.
>>537602938>muh central banks>I'm too retarded to understand it
>>537606739>credit moneyoxymoron
>>537604378Let's define a central bank first before we proceed.
>>537606950There's nothing complicated about having an extortion of your country's money in the form of a central bank
>>537607134>noooo I'm being extorted somehow
>>537607131Let's wait for OP to define it. I wonder what he will say. He still hasn't said why he thinks they should be abolished. Just random schizo ramblings.
>>537606959It's backed by credits which are backed by assets. >>537607134The central bank prints counterfeit money for the government and for private criminals.
>>537607231hey faggot, the jews literally attacked your country cause hitler showed a world without a jew ran central bank
>>537607385>The central bank prints counterfeit money for the government and for private criminals.Correct.
>>537602938It's not individual belief, but institutional recognition and acceptance.
>>537607422Hitler was a retard who had problems dealing with monetary policy even before the war.
>>537606739>>537607359>>537607385First everyone needs to comprehend:1. What money is aka 'What is money?' to begin with2. How is money createdMoney is created as debt, by private central banks.The Money Delugehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6m49vNjEGs97% Owned — How is money createdhttps://www.yotube.com/watch?v=XcGh1Dex4YoMONEY IS *CREATED AS DEBT*. That is what money is: Debt
The reason why fiat currency doesn't work is that it destroys the social contract. In an ideal world, money is a stable medium of exchange and even a store of value. This means that I can "save money" until I can buy something that initially I did not have enough for. If money is not a stable store of value, and I want to save up for something I cannot presently afford, I need to exchange my money for some other store of value (like real estate). In that society, real estate is fulfilling half the function of money. Does it need to be said that such a system is extremely inconvenient? There are a million problems with it. How much money (which is constantly losing value) is the entry barrier to the real estate market? What if for practical reasons someone wants to store wealth but cannot put it into real estate? How about for the vast majority of people who do not understand how money works and think just storing their paychecks is akin to building wealth? It is for these reasons why currency stability has always been a good thing. Thus, by tricking the masses, the money makers have effectively impoverished society, by turning a society of savers, into a society of spenders. The most important emotional motive in the fiscal side of the social contract should be thus: work hard, save your money, and you will be okay in times of trouble. The fiat money of constantly dwindling value actually punishes people who abide by this philosophy, and rewards the gamblers, criminals, spendthrifts, and debtors who have the opposite philosophy: spend whatever money you have as soon as you get it. Hence, the collapse of long term wealth accumulation, and a society whose moral imperative is to get rich quick and escape the system by whatever means necessary: i.e., the same principle which dominates a hyperinflationary or doomed economy. In short, in a fiat currency of continuously dwindling value economy, there is no motive to work.
>>537602938Going after the central bank almost universally leads to fucked up financial conditions. They exist for a reason, and I don't want hyperinflation.
>>537607651>>537606739>>537607359>>537607385*Corrected the typographic error in 2nd URL:First everyone needs to comprehend:1. What money is aka 'What is money?' to begin with2. How is money createdMoney is created as debt, by private central banks.The Money Delugehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6m49vNjEGs97% Owned — How is money createdhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcGh1Dex4YoMONEY IS *CREATED AS DEBT*. That is what money is: Debt
>>537607665Amen.
>>537607701We already have hyperinflation
>>537607665>Nooo not the poor retarderinos
>>537604726I would prefer to call it murder-backed currency.
>>537607864>We already have hyperinflationcope
>>537607665This is one of the main problems of private central banks / fiat currency, with regard to the gov-society 'social contract'.Be sure to watch the film '97% Owned' ^^^linkedMoney today is *created as debt* and is what is destroying all human civilization worldwide.
To exist in a fiat currency economy is to enter an auction where one of the participants (or several, in cases like ours where many banks have the ability of creating mass amounts of credit from little currency) have the ability to create money out of thin air. You will always lose the auction. The natural result of this is best seen in hyperinflations like Weimar, Zimbabwe, or Venezuela. When people cannot use currency to get ahead, they use other means. Cigarettes. Prostitution. Crime. Barter. Escaping the economy altogether.
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>>537607665>rewards the gamblers, criminals, spendthrifts, and debtors who have the opposite philosophy: spend whatever money you have as soon as you get itThis is the dumbest shit I've heared today. Hording money is a sin. It doesn't benefit anyone. Those who take the risk and the responsibility to own an asset must be rewarded.
>>537606488>the money is fakeI don’t know what that means. Money, or currency, or whatever the fuck I’m supposed to call it is just a little token of power that I can trade away to someone to compel them to do what I want instead of having to hit them over the head with a club. Who cares if it’s not backed by gold or silver? Anyway, you’d have to tear down the whole system to invalidate that sophistication of power, and there are way too many people who, having been made extremely powerful by that system, would do everything they could to make sure that doesn’t happen. It’s gonna be nasty.
>>537607864Not even close. You have Trumpflation, which is bad, but is fixable.
>>537607864No, Venezuela, Zembabwe, and Turkey had hyperinflation. We just have uncomfortably high inflation which the fed has been an active participant in lowering.Please educate yourself on financial policy before you start spouting shit.
same shit the crypto retards say. the difference is that business have to accept the monopoly money on he left.
>>537602938I didn't realize that monopoly money was also backed by the most powerful military in the world
>>537602938""Central banks""U mean capitalism right ?
>>537608091You should care because it means you cannot trust people to trade anything but real assets cause jews own the counterfeit printing press.
>>537608139>it's not REAL inflation
>>537607947the post-1970s global economy is Financialized. After the 1999 repeal of Glass-Steagall, investment banks officially became casinos and Phase I of global Financialization was complete. All 21st century wealth is generated and sourced today from *speculative debt instruments* <--that never existed prior to the 1980s. Top corporations worldwide shovel most of their profits into—no, not capex improvements of their own brand output / product / service or manufacturing—*buybacks of their own stocks* to artificially boost asset ratings.*WATCH* ^^^^ the two films above 'The Money Deluge' and '97% Owned'.>"The real money to be made in the world today is not by producing anything at all. It's simply by forms of speculating — basically making money off of money. That's the most profitable, and by far and away the biggest form of economic activity that exists in the world today."
So why then, is there a collapse in civilized values throughout the West?Well, at least in the case of economics, it'a because we are basically in a slow mo version of hyperinflation. Everyone can sense instinctually that "working for the man" will never get you anything. Hence, the old bourgeois middle class values of being straight laced, showing up to work, saving up money, obeying the law, serving your country, are now seen as being idiotic. This is EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS IN HYPERINFLATION!! People stop caring about chasing the $ when the $ runs away forever. The black market takes over. Drugs, sex, crime, extortion, and most notably: ESCAPING THE SYSTEM!! Hence, the American economy is no longer about building up a system, it is now about ESCAPING the system: whether to the Caymans, to the Rockies, to Europe, to Japan, to a gated community, anywhere: just abandon the hive itself because everyone knows it's going to blow. Thus, the moneymakers undermined the social contract - the faith - which created western civilization and all its capitalist interchanges. The modern man is so distrustful of these interchanges that he seeks to limit himself from exposure to them: the less merchants he is dependent on, the less catastrophic the INEVITABLE bust will be. Whether he is an Epstein diversifying his global assets portfolio, or a thug living by robbery and drugs, or a Ted Kacynski escaping into the Rocky Mountains, the imperative is the same as in Weimar Germany, Venezuela, or Zimbabwe: this system is not reliable, the money is not to be trusted, run away. This is not the motivation which creates big and powerful societies.
>>537608336>>"The real money to be made in the world today is not by producing anything at all. It's simply by forms of speculating — basically making money off of money. That's the most profitable, and by far and away the biggest form of economic activity that exists in the world today."This part really makes me mad everyday I wake up
The note is whatever but having enough of one of them will let me get a burrito to eat and the other will not so I will go along with whatever "belief" gets me yummy food
>>537608495have you ever eaten a burrito that costs one ounce of silver?
>>537606185you can own everything, the real question, is what can you defend?
>>537608091>>537608194>>537608225Learn what money is, how it is created.the post-1970s global economy is Financialized, all wealth today is generated (no, not from 'labor' 'capital' or 'work') *speculative debt instruments*, and all 'GDP' / 'economic growth' today= Debt.The Money Delugehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6m49vNjEGs97% Owned — How is money createdhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcGh1Dex4Yo>"The real money to be made in the world today is not by producing anything at all. It's simply by forms of speculating — basically making money off of money. That's the most profitable, and by far and away the biggest form of economic activity that exists in the world today."— Nick Dearden, quoted in '97% Owned'
>>537608416This.The gold price chart in usd follows the exact gold price chart of the weimar currency, except it's only 5x slower.What happened there in one year is going to happen now in 5 years.
>>537608423Yeah that quote is from interview in '97% Owned' (see ^^links above)Entire global economy 2026 is essentially a gigantic casino
>>537608754Ive realized that. Making money from money is the gayest most NON PRODUCTIVE shit ever
>>537608416>slow mo version of hyperinflation>>537608753>exact gold price chart of the weimar currency, except it's only 5x slowercringe
>>537608835The problem is no one even knows what modern (post-1970s) money even is, let alone how it is created.(all anons itt) Watch the two films 'The Money Deluge' and '97% Owned'
>>537608753>>537608939>gold price chart
>>537608225>most powerful>lost every war its fought since ww2.>that one was carried by russiaBro, stop huffing farts. This level of cope is peaked in highschool tier lame.
>>537608542No. Do you know where I can find a place that makes burritos in exchange for a handful of silver ore?
>>537609166silver coin is $70. So find a place with $70 premium silver.
>537608939 seething>537609061 well poisoning
>>537602938What a retarded fucking image. THEY BOTH ARE VALUED AT $1!THEY BITH SAY "1"!
>>537609503now stop looking at it like a goyim
>>537602938>There is not a single party in america or europe that has tried to go after the Central banks in our countries.Democrats - DIDN'T try .Republicans - are trying NOW. Why do you think there are 1000 Trump hate threads / day here? Trump just installed his own central banker who is also pro crypto.
>>537608753It's basically the "rats in a cage" psychological effect of hyperinflation except slowed down.It is obvious to see the motive of the bankers. (((Rothbard))) traces it excellently in the US (although of course without mentioning the (((question)))). Whether the revolution, civil war, ww1, or ww2, the government needed more money, so it decided to create it. The problem is that the elites do not understand how their prosperity is built on the labors of the millions. By rugpulling the masses, they are just rugpulling themselves. They will turn an advanced industrial economy into a neglected wasteland, because no one wants to work, and everyone with half a brain tries to get out. But now the most interesting thing is where do we go from here? How do we "balance accounts"? Do we even know how much money exists, and how much is owed, and by whom?
>>537609482>when you have to adjust the x-axis scale by 5x and a y-axis offset but that's still not enough to manipulate the chart to support my narrative so I also switch to a logarithmic y-axis scaling.That's giga cringe you faggot
>>537602938It has nothing to do with my belief, rather the beliefs of literally everybody else. I hand a clerk a dollar I get a cigarillo. I hand him Monopoly money and I get shotSimple as
>>537608975>Money Deluge and 97% Owned'Yeah I watched these because of you and they were good. I would also like to add "Princes of the Yen" and "The Spider's Web: Britain's Second Empire", which are all on youtube as well. And then also on youtube is an audiobook of Murray Rothbard's History of Money and Banking in the United States, which is very good. I would like to see a good documentary on the history of the Bank of England, and also Hjalmar Schacht who was the central banker of Germany throughout the 20s and 30s.
>>537602938Apparently Liz Truss tried in the UK and was booted out by the jews immediately.
OP is making you confused. Credit money wouldn't be bad if the rules were followed. Central banks and banks create money. They should get a valuable asset in return for their new money. These assets back the money. For instance, if a company needs a new machine and gets a bank credit to buy it, then new money is created that is backed by the credit. And the credit is backed by the company including the new machine. The company couldn't say that it doesn't want to pay the bank. On the other hand, buying rubbish from bankrupt banks is bad. Or giving the government free money is also bad. The machine was backed money, the rest unbacked money.
>>537603425I think you might be profoundly, medically retarded, anon.
>>537610129(The central bank buys the rubbish and gives free money to the government)
>>537604378They shouldn't. They should not, however, be involved with the BIS or be privately organized. They should all be under the immediate control of national treasuries and the BIS and every piece of shit involved in that should be ripped apart limb from limb after their swift trials for war crimes and crimes against humanity.
>>537609692>Trump just installed his own central banker who is also pro crypto.Youre falling for the central bank trick of >president appoints chairman, that means he controls itWhen there's 11 other fucking chairmen
>>537606202Andrew jackson
>>537609987Hand him silver or gold and watch his face.
>>537610129>Credit money wouldn't be bad if the rules were followed.This
>>537610401one of the most based democrats in history next to JFK
>>537606447/pol/ gets it and propagates it but we get shilled into oblivion.
>>537602938True, the financisl market is fake and gay as Israel.
>>537603323Good goy!
>>537610129Why should banks create money anyway? There is a gap between the work required by the bank to create the money and the work required by the company to create the machine. It is much harder to build a machine than to press a 0 button on a keyboard. Ultimately you have an unbalanced equation. You are exchanging machines for 0s on a keyboard.It is like saying I want a house, but I do not have enough money, so I should create money to buy the house.The idea that money can be created or destroyed undermines the concept of money as a medium of exchange.If we take a village and the mayor has a money printer, all you can do is hope that for decades and decades and centuries and centuries he will not abuse it. Which he almost certainly will. And it is why even have the moneyprinter in the first place?
>>537603425It's like Ork in Warhammer40k, burger.
>>537602938Doing something about monopolistic credit card companies, censorious payment processors and banks debanking customers for legal speech, purchases or investments should be a much higher priority than some abstract concept of central banking that no one understands and appeals to few.
>>537610670>You are exchanging machines for 0s on a keyboard.You don't have to pay interest on the machine so it balances out - or if it doesn't it means you cannot afford the machine.
>>537602938If jews could have full control of the note on the right I eould probably play more monopoly.
>>537610670If the interest is very low it means you should buy the machine.
>>537602938Bitcoin happened to it, any attempt to decentralize the economy meant they scammed the youth out of their money with crypto scams
>>537609994Yes the Michael Oswald films are essential.>"Princes of the Yen"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5Ac7ap_MAY>"The Spider's Web: Britain's Second Empire"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np_ylvc8Zj8Another essential one for the hundreds-of-years background history of money and banking is Bill Still's 'The Money Masters' (delves into the Bank of England in part)>>537610670According to the U.S. Constitution the Congress is supposed to retain the power of coinage and regulation of currency.
>>537602938one is legal tender and the other is not>what's legal tenderThat which can pay fines and remedies in a court of law
>>537611000checked, the __idea of__ bitcoin was (and ? remains) a good one: to circumvent and replace the central bank-generated fiat currencies.Crypto's problem after only a couple of years was, it never became an actual currency. Nobody used it *widely* as an alternative to commonly-used global currencies, it was only used for purchases-transactions by a tiny 'in group' elite (and yes there were gov restrictions/prohibitions placed on it, but still the cryptocurrencies needed to be more widely used-embraced *as currencies*)Since they never became widely used as currencies, and they still retained "power" as an alternative to fiat, they became sequestered as a speculative asset and now are just like any other speculative market.If ? crypto was to be considered a 'success' it needed to become an actual real widely-used *viable* currency, for normies in any country to buy their cigarettes with at the convenience store. It didn't accomplish that goal.
>>537610129>>537610464>ThisYoure both fucking retards.
>>537611479>seething
>>537610475Americas Hitler will be closer to andrew jackson. Niggers will be sent back to africa or otherwise segregated, and the Rothschilds are going the pay for it. 100% separation 100% reparation.
>>537610071>Liz Trusssee interview here (about what-who actually controls their country): >>537605176
>>537611581Why would i be mad that your retarded? What a retarded thing to say kek
>>537612082>more impotent seething because I cannot engage constructively.
>>537610635>assumes i dont want to demolish central banks>antagonistic for no reasongood goy!
>>53760538230*90=2700That's 2.7 trillion if they've been printing that much every year
>>537608336>Top corporations worldwide shovel most of their profits into—no, not capex improvements of their own brand output / product / service or manufacturing—*buybacks of their own stocks* to artificially boost asset ratings.Their very own brand, output and product may as well not even exist to begin with (and remember the close interconnection of top corporate CEOs with hedge funds and investment banks).It's all about making money off of *money itself alone*, nothing else. That's where the greatest amount, margin of incentive and return exists in the post-1970s Financialized global economy
>>537602938Page 7 bump!Dangerously based Central Bank thread. OP is definitely attracted to women
>>537614642There is not a single reason companies shouldn't be able to buy back their own stocks. It's like paying dividends except the money gets reinvested and it's more tax efficient.
>>537613522Ok, well...if you are antisemitic, you are cool, vikagnz anon.
>>537602938Your picrel is wrong. The monopoly note is objectively more valueable bexause you aren't paying multiple forms of (literal, figurative and functional) interest on it, and there aren't infinitely more monopoly notes minted (willed into existence, ex nihilo) in the past (debt), the present (credit) and the future (interest) for the sole purpose of controlling your behaviour by manipulating its (perceived) value.
>>537602938They will never mention the money printers. This is the where their power is vested. This is the lynchpin.MUST WATCHMoney creation: what Fractional reserve banking is and how works:https://youtube.com/watch?v=t5ayg3hbhoM> OP picrel. There is ONE single but decisive difference between these papers: The tax office only accepts one of them. There are dozens of valid arguments on what gives money it’s worth. At the end of analasys through a pragmatical lense, this is what actualy practically comes down to. The implications can’t be overstaded. Eliminate this „monopoly“ and the central banks will automatically vanish. If the tax office is under direct national jurisdiction, the Government can jur do that. This is the most elegant elegant solution for the core problem.
>>537615447it's important to disabuse people of the notion that abolishing central banks is just a matter of democratic opinion or getting the right think tanks to shit on keynes and fisherour balls are in an iron vice and this won't be pretty>vikagnzwrong flag but we cool anon
>>537602938>ImageNot really. Whether you believe in its value or not, you still need to pay your taxes in it. And so does everyone else who you pay to. Otherwise you could freely trade with squirrel skins if you wanted to.
>>537615370>14 pbtid Germany flagIt's not about whether or not they do it or a value judgment on the companies' "ethics" in question, but sheer magnitude *proportion* (of relative investment) and this is but one manifestation of post-1970s Financialization of the global economy. Another more visible Real Economy manifestation of this as a result of the parallel phenomenon of neoliberal economic policies is offshoring of corporate investment from the west.Watch the two films 'The Money Deluge' and '97% Owned' ^^^also look up the Cantillon effect
>>537615370>except the money gets reinvestedNo it doesn't.The money goes to shareholders.
>>537602938Imo a start is to use their currency less and less. Goods trading, alternative currencies, doing stuff with trust and favors locally etc. Then rethink it for some more decoupling from the central bank cartel.
>>537614642>Their very own brand, output and product may as well not even exist to begin withIt's how they earn money to reward shareholders.Can't buy back stocks without making profits.
>>537615750>The money goes to shareholdersThat's what "the money gets reinvested" means
It's their money. They are giving it to themselves - not in the form of dividends but in share accretion.
>>537615603You dont have to pay taxes if you dont use the US dollar.
>>537615828Well technically, there's no tax or stoppage of trading assets for each other. Hell, you can use gold and silver right now to buy things. And it wouldnt be considered a taxable event.
>>537616483Pretty sure that's not true. If you run a goldmine you will have to pay income tax even if you never sell the gold.
>>537616483Just like crypto to crypto is a taxable event.
>>537616645I didnt say running of a mine. I meant I can go to an average joe and trade silver coins for equivalent value of items.
>>537616702Dude, youre such a fucking retarded german cuck.
>>537616733Why are you so thinskinned? Tossing out insults for nothing. If you want to get into trouble with the irs go ahead.
>>537616442Go scale up your asset for asset economy. Eventually the irs will put an estimated dollar value on your trades and tax your income. That's what you get for trying to be cute.
Reminder: as long as we're under central banks, we're working for free. Might as well call them commie bucks. A central bank was the fifth pillar of communism.
>>537617195>incomeYou dont make any if you dont deal in usd, retard
>>537617604The irs doesn't share your opinion, retard.
>>537618532there's no way that the irs can tax you if you dont take or give usd of any kind, faggot.
>>537618567They will just estimate the value in usd. I explained that already. Why does this fact offend you so much?
>>537618846No they dont. I know taxes. you dont
>>537618864Yeah sure you are so smart. All these rich people who deal in usd have never thought about that and you are the first one to come up with that idea.
>>537618864Remember when musk exchanged tesla stocks for twitter to avoid paying taxes?
>>537617604>your income is $0.00 if not paid in USDI don't think this is how personal income tax works in the United States, but what do I know, I'm just a CPA
>>537615894That's not the reason or underlying sustaing framework for stock buybacks>the moneyThere isn't any. It's all DebtAll wealth in 21st century is generated from (no not 'capital' 'labor' or 'work') speculative debt instruments. Asset markets are total casinos, do not reflect the Real Economy of goods-services-commodities or real valuations, at allStocks post-1990s are an actual joke (look for example at Tesla, valued higher than any automobile company in history despite never having turned a profit in two decades even Elon Musk acknowledges it's ludicrously overvalued)
RIchard Werner explains central banks (2025 full 170-minute interview, essential):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StTKHskg5Tg*This* is what they are sliding — Richard Wernerhttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/511622826BONUS (15 mins clip)—Professor Werner brilliantly explains how the ebanking system and financial sector really workhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC0G7pY4wRE
>>537619822the last video really hit it home on banks>banks are in the business of buying securities. That's it.
>>537602938>This use to be the stance of the Democrats. Wtf happened to that?what funny is how people remember this differently.So when it was the stance of the Republicans that created the current republicans (thanks to ron paul) it was also well known that when you try this, you die or the election fraud starts working.For example, when I tried to vote for ron paul, the fraud prevented that. Be less retarded and you'll understand what is happening.Im not sure if democrats ever understood central banking, they seem to lack the ability to understand anything with depth or detail beyond the surface level.
>>537603272it blows my mind that people will read this and NOTICE NOTHING
Give me the real thing -- It's gold for me!!!
>>537602938But that image represents everything -You could replace it withgold and quartsOr Rubys with aquamarineOr anythingEverything only has value because we put meaning to it
>>537602938They realized they could use their power to gain a substantial portion of the printed money.
>>537622226The meaning comes from its scarcity and inability to be printed outside of productivity without exceptional effort. That's why the dollar lost most of its value since its inception. It literally has a trickle of the value and even that is fake.
>>537602938Trump took down the Fed behind the scenes reportedly. According to Q, they are now just a dept under the Treasury. I'm guessing that they are still around publicly to take the blame for the Fed's fiat dollar that is set to crash, to be replaced by a new gold/silver backed Treasury Dollar.
>>537602938>>not a single party in america or europe that has tried to go after the Central banks
>>537622796based Ron
>>537602938That's bullshit, dollars are of WAY higher quality and resilience [spoiler]and size too[/spoiler]
>>537623098>rips it apartso much for that
>>537604378Not abolished. Every nation has a central (national) bank.The problem with the system in place is that nearly every national bank on Earth is owned by other banks or private shareholders. Not owned by the state.Central banks dictate state policy through the creation of currency in their charter banks, granting loans to the federal government, and directing the national treasury to print fiat currency.The few nations that have maintained control over their central bank are sanctioned economically and frequently targeted for war by the US and England.or the UN.To understand war, you must first understand global central banking.
>>537602938left is backed by debtright is backed by hotelsso would you rather have a piece of paper saying you're in debt by $1, or own a hotel on Boardwalk?British money literally has written on it "I promise to pay the bearer on demand the sum of five/ten/twenty/fifty pounds"fiat money is debt
>>537602938>There is not a single party in america or europe that has tried to go after the Central banksKennedy, Lincoln, Jackson, McKinley. All assassinated or almost. Cued to 18 min:>https://youtu.be/watch?v=mII9NZ8MMVM&t=1082s
>>537623561>Jackson
>>537623862I still find it funny that jews would allow Andrew Jackson in the white house like that. I wonder why. Didnt they hate him?
This has been a good thread. Thanks guys. For you fiat kikes, fuck off.
>>537625756Thanks anon, good thread .Take care.
>>537623561>>537624853>Andrew JacksonAs Jim Rickards said this morning >>537605345 (watch the full 3 segments with him today on War Room) the United States had almost a century from 1832 to 1914 without a central bank, during which much prosperity of the nation was achieved.
>>537627796And we had a lot of inventions, too. We are still using the inventions we made today from that era. Imagine if we kept going with no central bank. Imagine the fucking world we would be in right now.
>>537615523>the money printersEvery anon scrolling itt needs to watch the two films (linked ^^^^):1) The Money Deluge2) 97% Owned — How is money createdThe post-1970s global economy is Financialized and all of today's wealth is sourced from speculative debt instruments in a gigantic global casino fueled by private central banks, entirely walled off and segregated from the Real Economy of goods-services-commodities.
>>537602938because the entire information system is an extension of the system you want to destroy.that means any genuine movement won't be 'visible', and if so, be infiltrated before hand or identified as terrorists.
>>537602938Last guy that even talked about it was JFK. don't hold your breath for someone to try that again
Century of Enslavement: The History of The Federal Reservehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5IyUFqUN88https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/451293951
all central banks are privately owned.look how many shills and morons are here not understanding that.We exist in a circular system where the central bank owners are outside.all "money" is DEBT issued at INTEREST.Every government is insolvent, all 'taxes' collected go straight to the banks to pay down the impossible interest and than get reissued more debt to use. its a neverending system. The only solution is to declare the debt odious and incurred under durress (which it is) grab your guns and tell the bankers to come n get it. YOu cannot vote your way out ofthis. It gets violent everysingle time an entity or individual wants to buck this sytem of enslavement, WHICH IT IS. humanity imminently needs to wake up to this reality. its the only thing that matters (sovereignty). everything else in this "reality" is crafted as a distraction from politics on down. the central bank owners (families or bloodlines of nobility) own our reality and craft it. They dont need 'money' like we need. the endless pursuit of 'money' is useless.
>>537615523OH and anons never forget. FRACTIONAL RESERVE banking is non existant now. during covid they removed the fractional part! im not gonna provide the sources for fools. anyone worth their weight in salt would already know this.
>>537630624not (technically) all of them but every one that matters worldwide, and the global system overall is of the top investment banks, that serve as Primary Dealers for the central banks. For the purposes of discussion we can default assume private central banks that "all" of them are>governments insolvent>Debt is tyrannyCorrect. Global debt topped $255 trillion in 2019 and $350 trillion in 2025, almost four times the amount of all global economic output. Total debt levels and deficit spending of the past 30 years has eclipsed that of the past several centuries of western civilization, and absurdlly low and negative interest rate borrowing costs have incentivized national governments to no longer borrow on the expectation that they will repay, but rather the expectation that they will refinance.
>>537631227yeah, I agree there issome public bank ownerships, but like all, the % is meaningless at this point. the privately held entities are the ones that have the 'power' to control, literally reality here on earth, since they 'fund' everything and have first eyes on ALL. heres a list of the fed owners from 1976 https://bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_fed01.htm
>>537604378Because jews having an infinite money cheat that they can use to vertically integrate your entire culture, government, and economy is very bad for you as a white person who wants to continue existing in the future.
>>537602938Do people think there was enough gold in the world to back currency with our population explosion?Fiat was always going to happenAlso do you think anyone cares that shiny metal in a vault somewhere backs the dollar in a societal collapse?
Jesuit Council of 13Aldobrandini/Borghese, Borja/Borgia, Chigi, Colonna/Cologna, Conti, Farnese/delle overe, Gaetani/Caetani, Merdici/Medici/Domedici, Orsini/Maximus, Pamphii, Somaglia, Este EstencePapal BloodlinesOrsini Breakspear Aldobrandini Farnse SomagliaJesuit Houses:House of BorjaHouse of BreakspeareHouse of SomagliaHouse of Orsini (Orso)House of ContiHouse of ChigiHouse of ColonnaHouse of FarneseHouse of MediciHouse of GaetaniHouse of PamphiliHouse of EsteHouse of AldobrandiniBlack Nobility Council of 13Bruce, Kennedy(Cavendish), De Medici, Hanover, Habsburg, Krupp, Plantagenet, Rockefeller, Romanov, Sinclair (St Clair), Warburg (Bank), Windsor (Saxe-Gotha-CoburgBlack NobilityAstor, Stanley, Morgan, Goldman, Kuhn/Kohn/Cohn/Cohen, Oppenheimer, Rothschild, Rockefeller, Warburg, Spencer-Churchill, Stuart/Stewart, Planck, Smith, Jasper, Levy, Palmer, Gordon, Moore, Fitzgerald, Kennedy(Cavendish), Noble, Bennett, Forbes, Beresford, Bancroft, Barclay, Cabot, Higginson, Adams, Baker, Coffin, Cooper, Delano, Gardner, Otis, Quincy, Rice, Bush, Lehman, Tudor, Sassoon, Shermans, Clarkes, Royces, Lindsays, Raffles, Robinson, Pratt, Bartlett, Abraham, Guggenheim, Loeb, Strauss, Sach, Lazard, Seaf, Schiff, Schroder, HarrimanBlack Nobility Houses:House of Bernadotte, SwedenHouse of Bourbon, FranceHouse of Braganza, PortugalHouse of Grimaldi, MonacoHouse of Guelph (Welf), Britain(the most important one)House of Habsburg, AustriaHouse of Hanover, Germany (the second most important one)House of Hohenzollern, GermanyHouse of Karadjordjevic, Yugoslavia formerHouse of Liechtenstein, LiechtensteinHouse of Nassau, LuxembourgHouse of Oldenburg, DenmarkHouse of Orange, NetherlandsHouse of Savoy, ItalyHouse of Wettin, Belgiumthesre theownrs of thecentral banks,lording over all inside the circle theyve created.Im sure there is a few new names to add to the list aswell. There isnobility all over asia also working in tandem keep the masses enslaved
>>537607359why do you need someone else to define it? Why are you too dumb to figure stuff out that everyone else has known for centuries? It's been laid out countless times for 200 years why you don't want a jewish central bank in your country.
>>537631564>Do people think there was enough gold in the world to back currency with our population explosion?Here we fucking go.Hey, faggot. The scarcity of a money is what makes it sound money, you stupid faggot.
>>537631891OkBut there wouldnt be enough to support a massive populationThat gold woildnt stretch that farYou would be poorer under the gold standard
>>537631956That's a good thing! Gold can be given in different ounces. And even if in your imaginery world we didn't have enough gold, we have silver, which was used mostly by everyone. Gold was more used among the elites or the kings for bigger exchanges.Stop being so fucking retarded and go learn about history.
>>537631444checked, yes it's pretty much meaningless as to how the global Financialized system functionsGlobal investment banks run a cabal casino, worldwide and everyone-everything one way or other is enslaved to it.
It all comes down to ODIOUS DEBTthe solution is to declare the debt ODIOUS and incurred under durress.that is the one and only soluton. so continue to argue. /pol/ is even still scared to talk about ODIOUS DEBT. Which is what this system incurs on you daily.babylonian money magic. declare the debt odious and incurred under durress. start talking about that. you can't do anything about a new system until you work your way out of the one your already enslaved to.
>>537632248When people understand *what money is* and *how it is created*, then they can understand how *all money* the entire global money system exists and is generated AS DEBT.All anons itt need to watch the two films upthread^^^1) The Money Deluge2) 97% Owned — How is money createdOnce you comprehend that the entire global system, including money creation itself, is BASED AND FOUNDED ON DEBT then this becomes a daily awareness.Money *is* debt. Money = DebtExpansion of the Debt system is the total whole goal of central banks. It has to continue expanding so they can be the lenders and buyers of last resort.
>>537632634and thats why the only solution is the one thats already founddeclare the debt odious and incurred under duress.
>>537602938this is the power of retardation?actual dollar bills have value because everyone knows - not believes, knows for a hard fact - that all other people assign a value to them.
>>537632941money is not made by belief but by logistics
>>537632941I would rephrase that slightly into everyone agreeing that they have value.
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>>537619017the trick is exchanging stuff locally. Ofc if you mass exchange goods three states away they will try tointerfere. But if you rxchamge stuff in your town i think they wont
>>537632809>"The only option is to stop [central] banks from creating money as debt. If you want to have a chance of tackling any of the big social issues, you've got to solve the money issue."— Ben Dyson, quoted in the film '97% Owned'
>>537623466what if a state has bo official currency? anything goes, taces can be payed to all currencies and exchanged in the spot gy the goverment to a currency if uts liking at current market prices
>>537633861no official currency, taxes can be payed to whatever currency the taxed people like
