What was his deal?
He was a socialist that realized he could get personal wealth and power by selling out to big business.
>>537604935WOOOFORZA ITALIAAVANTI SAVOIA
>>537605006Did he really sell out...>>537605042Italy should be capital of the world desu, I have no idea why it isn't
>>537605168No industry big wigs just dropped piles of cash in front of him and he busted up unions, lowered wages and raised working hours for completely unrelated reasons
>>537604935He tried his best.It was not good enough.A fine example, like his German counterparts, of how appearances simply do not matter in the face of reality.There is only one arbiter.
>>537605684Can you explain what you mean by that second half? >>537605540Okay but even so he still had aura
>>537605168>Did he really sell out...they literally found the nigger heading towards the swiss border with gold and his wifesocialists are one of the same kind
>>537605684>tried his bestNo he fucking didnt. He did the bare minimum. He didnt even try to purge the lazy Savoy officer corps.If he just fired everyone in 1922 by 1940 he would have brand new elite 18 year olds trained in a superior prussian tradition (assuming he would ask germany for help)
thoughts on Fascist Anglo Man?
>>537605042My ancestors...
>>537606309That's not how it works.>>537605883>What was his dealYou shouldn't be looking for Mussolini but the theorists of fascism of which he became the leader. It was a movement to restore decency and the greatness of Italy / Europe and combat Socialism and in a way Liberalism. It got its own personal characteristcs as Mussolini became the undisputed leader. But in terms of political theory Mussolini was mostly irrelevant as we was based on the theories of the fascist ideologues. It was what it was... he was a strongman who headed a revolution. He made Italy into a great power but he could have easily made Italy into a much greater power. AMA
>>537605006>>537605168The truth is much worse, he sold out to thieves and looters of state (taxpayer) funds. To the extent that the armed forces were lacking equipment that had been paid for, but the funds were diverted or the supplier had no intention of delivering. The SS would have dragged out and shot anybody trying that shit in the Reich.
>>537604935Musolini acted like a nigger to sabotage HitlerHe was never actually an ally of Germany
>>537604935oh look, another Divide & Conquer thread
>>537604935based from the start but dropped the ball on ethno nationalism and even if Fascist Italy would survive WW2 they would be turned into a Mutt shell of its former self.
>>537606731Its exactly how it works. Uncle Adolf purged the officer corps and installed a meritocratic Prussian model. Which is why the 1939 german army was so disciplined. Mussolini left the fat fuck french Savoy officer corp in place that was built on nepotism. Discipline comes from the NCOs
>>537606456Total loser, couldn't even get enough followers to fill a bus.
>>537604935A worthless sack of shit A useless ruler for an useless people Italy fell 1500 years ago and never recovered
>>537605042imagine having a such a nice civilization and then one day complete swamp retards ruin it lmao
>>537606913The only based black man to ever exist.
>>537607179but i like him
>>537607095>Picrel Accurate af
>>537607249Ti te se un terun
>>537607154From what I remember - and I am no expert on Mussolini or the Italy of the period - Mussolini notoriously arrived in power by forming a militia and marching upon Rome and taking the State for himself.Yes, he had the support of the people. However he did not have the support of the elites, even the military ones, who were mostly of the liberal freemasonic type although still with alliegance to the (freemasonic) King of Italy of the Savoy house.I don't think the Savoy royals were French, especially once they moved to Piemont and settled in Turin and dedicated themselves to the Italian cause. Anyway, if Mussolini arriving at the head of the government were to turn against the military elite he would have been ousted quickly and probably killed.Franco on the other hand was an officier who rebelled, fought a civil war and conquered the country.Salazar was a finance professor who after the military rebelled, made a coup and changed the regime, eventually was asked to lead the country as a civilian and to write a new Constitution. Funnily enough the major heros of the military revolt in Portugal that created the Salazar regime (or proto Salazar regime) got fucked by other military officiers shortly after.Revolutions eat their children and what not. When a civilian heads such revolutions or ends up as leading the government it ends badly more often than not. Salazar had great respect for the military officiers and worked with them and I think the three Presidents of the Portuguese Republic back then under Salazar were formally above Salazar and had the power to remove him: They were all military officiers. Eventually it was military officiers that ended the (post) Salazar regime, after a liberal had suceeded Salazar.
>>537606731Sure, I'll start with: could Fascist Italy have lasted more than twenty-odd years, and if so, how? Also, how can fascism become tenable in the modern day?
>>537607154>Discipline comes from the NCOsSort of but not really.I think our equivalent of your NCO's is the Sargeant. He is the one who commands a few soldiers but the Sargeants / NCO's are always just there to do whatever the Officiers tell them to.And there is also a big difference between the Upper Officiers (say Generals) who rule supreme and the Lower Officiers (say Capitains) who basically just execute in the terrain what the Higher Officers tell them too. Why do you think the US and its army are so gay and everybody is afraid of its top generals who are generally jews and leftists?Because they are the ones that concentrate the military power and therefore all powers really. The division of powers and a civil led government are mostly memes.
>>537607154Mussolini was given authority through the king's mandate, he didn't completely take over like Hitler did
>>537607021Should have just sided with japs, hitler even said meds are low trust niggers
>>537604935Socialist retard who got butthurt do he made another socialist party with the same socialist ideas and invited big corporations to join his political venture.Retard do retarded thing from a balcony, people cheer from the meet grinder.Retard believes that he would annex Southern Europe if he joins Hitler, his annexation campaign fail due to a mediocre army.Loses control of his socialist heaven, a mob lynch him until death.That said he was seen as a role model by the democratic elite... Makes you wonder the real motivations of politicians.
>>537607249>Italy fell 1500 years ago*500
>>537604935He fought jewish Bolshevism.
>>537608151The last time Italy was based was under Garibaldi, why he let the French rule italy is beyond me.The only good thing Mussolini achieved was embarassing 4'6" Victor Emmanuel so badly that the Monarchy was toppled.
>>537605168Because the world advanced beyond swords.
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>>537608343Except he did not, he just killed other fellow Italians from the socialist party he was expelled from.
>>537605042mamma mia. mi serve una bella italiana....
>>537604935Make Italy Great Again, MIGA.
>>537604935si si si si si si si si sisi si si si si si si si sisi si si si si si si si si
>>537608449>he doesn't knowno one wanted an italian nation state and we're still suffering from this shit
He neglected his military and invaded Greece for no reason dooming Western Civilization to extinction.
>>537608889Washington was a Freemason too and hated kikes. Garibaldi pussied out at the critical moment. He could have gone full Napoleon.
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>>537607826Of course they could have lasted more, they literally were ended only by the greatest war that ever happened. Fascism in my opinion was a phenomena of its time. And real fascism was a purely Italian phenomenon. Italy had great problems and ambitions that were specific to itself: It was a country completely in the hand of freemason liberals which conquered it from the North to the South. There are at least four Italies who have surprisingly few to do to each other: Italy is not a nation and is not homogeneous. But they conquered it specifically to create a great power, which is geographically and even culturally sound (ethnically too in a way as they're closer to each other than to non Italians) if only to diminish the non Italian influence which had plagued Italy since the fall of the Roman Empire. The fascist muh Roman Empire larp to justify a unified Italy was a bit too much and too artificial but still popular. So, fascism can not be copy pasted to make it function in the future, in Italy or anywhere else.But if one considers fascism to have been a reaction against socialism and liberalism and as a part of traditionalism then surely some form of Traditionalism can be achieved in Italy.But let's be real: Italy is a barely independent state ruled by Washington and Brussels and is still considered very bad for being part of the axis and considered the vilain in the UN and what not.Italy - even more than the rest of Europe - is under American occupation. That's the first step for something traditionalist or nationalist to be able to live: To get independent from the USA . Especially now that the US is becoming a socialist one party state brown country. But the position of Italy is not particularly conducive to such an independence these days.
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>>537608657>he killed traitorsBased.Argentines should really try it.
>>537609295>Washington was a Freemason too and hated kikes.LolLmaoWashington loved kikes.Washington was a kike agent.I'd love to see you back that statment of yours out.
>>537606456only guy who knew that europe needed to be nationalist together
>>537609997>>537606456Really big fan of his proposed Pan-European alliance
>>537609706Well said, thanks for the effortpost. So in other words, the fascist movement has had no true sccessors throughout any other country or time period? Also, tell me your thoughts on National Socialism
>>537608112They were all working with the bankers
>>537610282Anon, what do you mean my thoughts on National Socialism?Fascism as the Italian movement was its own unique movement. Political movements can be inspired by others that preceeded them and can align more with this or that but they tend to be unique to their circumstances: Especially their time and place. Being right wing has practically been illegalised in Europe and the Americas. Do you know that India has a literal fascist like Hindu militia that is among the biggest and most active in the world and routinely hunts down moslems who create trouble?In Europe or America that would be against human rights and religious extremism. Anyway National Socialism was its own thing. I think it was aligned with fascism and other "traditionalist" "nationalist" movements across Europe at the time.Hitler himself was heavily influenced by Mussolini and the Italian fascists who he unirronically considered as heros and saviours of the white race / civilisation.At least until he got to power and met them. National Socialism was a reaction against the jewish Weimar regime and the decadent liberal (therefore jewish) regime of the multicultural Austria Hungary. It was again specific to its place and time. I think Hitler was a bit too autistic but then again that 's how Germans are. He shouldn't have invaded the Soviets the way he did which caused him to lose the war. But he took over France surpisingly quickly and kicked Britain out of Europe effectively, showing how weak the big liberal (jewish) Empires truly were. Some say National Socialism was too focused on war and gathering vital space for the Germans thus creating too many enemies and at the same time if successful creating a hugely dominant empire which obviously would not be tolerated by the other great powers.But then again it was what it was and I don't know what you are referring to regarding "my thoughts on National Socialism".
>>537607179fuck off jew
>>537608657>he killed communistssmart
>>537604935in the end he was useful idiot that was discarded like a used condom, at least the king lost the crown for it
>>537605042Sir, im gonna need this video with sound, stp.
>>537611608To be fair, f*moids were probably the majority of anti-king votes
