10kg of powerpaste store 1kg of hydrogen students recently drove a tiny car over 1500 miles on 950 grams (0.95kg) of hydrogeneven during an impeding oil crisis humans will disregard the best fuel available in the universe
>>537610011>Let's use all our drinking water to make fuel insteadYou're trying to make tankgirl a reality?
>>537610011I think we should go back to whale oil
>>537610156it turns to water again when you use it
>>537610011What the fuck is "powerpaste"?
>>537610415It's cum.
>>537610011Still inferior to unicorn farts.
>>537610415solid state storage of hydrogenit binds hydrogen to magnesium and you release the hydrogen by adding water
>>537610553Is the "powerpaste" destroyed by this process and has to be replaced?How much does it cost per kg?
>>537610011>950 grams (0.95kg)
>>537610011It's not ready for production yet. The biggest problem is packaging. It'll probably end up in cells you can buy. Plastic boxes you drop in and recycle when empty.
>>537610804That's about two pounds american friend, or how much sugar the average homo americanus consumes every day.
>>537610345That's so dumb.It turns into water vapor of which almost all of that will fall as rain in the ocean.In the meantime, water vapor is the strongest greenhouse gas.
>>537610731it turns into a sludge that gets recycled into new powerpastezero waste
>>537611203The joke was the base 10 conversion.
>>537611063it is ready for productionpackaging is not an issueit's technology that is surpressed because it interferes with certain interest groups
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>>537611420Uhhh just use ocean water or wastewater treatment effluents as water soruces...
>>537610156>>537610345>>537611420>>537612230Just grab icy comet and smash it into india
>>537610011hydrogen embrittles everything it touches.
>>537611420there is no need to release the vapor into the environmentyou collect it and make more hydrogen out of it
>>537610011mirai gets 100km per kilogram of hydrogen - how they got 2000km per kilogram?
>>537613183mercedes f-cell uses 0.34kg per 100km and it's a suvthe vehicle the students built was a very light weight cuckmobilebut you could use the same technology on a scooter or a bikeimagine your ebike with a range of 2000km
>>537613733meant for>>537613525
with a simple alkaline electrolyzer you can generate 1kg of hydrogen per day at home with only <2kw input powernever pay for fuel again
>>537610804Mutt is flabbergasted by eu measure units.Many such cases.
>>537610553Sounds like those old lamps miners used to use or those gas masks the soviets had
no matter how many records they set, people are unable to accept the superior fuelit must be cursed
>>537610011What's its composition? Metal hydrides?
>>537617075yes, magnesium hydride
>>537610011They'll all die from "suicide" within the next year
>>537610553>release the hydrogen by adding waterI think this is too unstable and they just heat it instead using recycled energy from the fuel cell
>>537618318it's not unstable afaik and it eliminates the requirement for heatingmagnesium hydride requires high temperatures to release hydrogenother hydrides can go much lower but are also not as abundant as magnesium
>>537610731its probably magnesium borohydride.a few years ago a kg of sodium borohydride was $300-400, Mg would cost double that probably
>>537618970it's magnesium hydride and you could produce it at home
>>537611519The joke is that mutts need the conversion because they prefer to measure in horse shoes or cheeseburgers
>>537611591> it is ready for production> packaging is not an issueSo... Where are they? What can I put a cartridge into to power?Nothing you say?> it's technology that is surpressedIt isn't suppressed. They haven't thought it through. It is a mobile technology, but it's 9kg of hydride for 1kg of hydrogen. If I need 4 or 5kg of hydrogen, then I need 40 or 50 kilos of hydride, and it's solid so it has to be carried in a cartridge or box of some sort. 50 kilos I have to go and get to exchange. And it needs water also, about the same weight. IIRC.
>>537610011>even during an impeding oil crisis humans will disregard the best fuel available in the universeUranium?
Hydrogen fuel is the most energy inefficient fuel there is because it takes a bunch of energy to produce, it leaks out and corrodes any tank because hydrogen is the tiniest atom, and it has practically no energy density to begin with so the size of your tank is enormous. It also competes with fertilizers we need since hydrogen is a big component of those (ammonia). If we could mass produce hydrogen fuel, we could also be mass producing artificial oil like the Germans did in the 40s. Hydrogen economy memes are pure grift.
>>537614010Or you could take that 2 kW and recharge your extended range EV. Unlike a hydrogen pump, EV chargers actually exist outside of a few cities in California.
>>537620984>takes a bunch of energy to produceit's a byproduct of multiple existing industries
>>537620692it's a paste like toothpaste and you can store it just like thatand it is very surpressed by people like elon musk and bill gates who invest in lithium batteriesmusk even called hydrogen cars the dumbest thing he could imagineit's not a perfect technology but it's better than gasoline in many waysnot only does it produce zero waste but it can be recycled into new fuel and you could potentially produce it at homeit's not compromised by cold or hot weather like batteries, doesn't lose capactiy with each charge, weights much less than battries, no need for lithium mines, fracking or drilling for oil (plus refining it into gasoline)
>>537621068>EV chargers actually exist outside of a few cities in California.because hydrogen it is a surpressed technology
>>537621129>it's not compromised by cold or hot weather like batteriesHydrogen nozzles freeze even in hot weather.It's a big problem in sunny California where you regularly have to wait 20 minutes for the nozzle to defrost before you can tank H2.In actual freezing weather it's unusable.
>>537610415The energy drink for people who need gratuitous amounts of energy. Comes in bold flavours such as Manana, Fizzbitch and Gun.
>>537620984>we could also be mass producing artificial oilThat wastes even more energy.Hydrogen can be used in fuel cells which are several times more efficient than internal combustion engines.Current generation Formula 1 cars do use 100% artificial fuel, so the technology is there but it's stupid expensive because it's such an inefficient way of powering an ICE (In F1 they don't care if fuel costs $100 per liter it's all about the marketing)
>>537616039All fuels are inferior to just charging a battery.>hydrogen trainLOL ever heard of a catenary?
>>537610011The production is far too expensive, even with today's oil prices.
>>537622374>All fuels are inferior to just charging a battery.Far too expensive, too. You have no idea what kind of life you would lead if your standard of living were based on these expensive energy sources. But perhaps you will find out, and then you will certainly wish you could go back to oil.
>>537610011>powerpastewhat is that? sodium borohydride?
>>537611420You know what else turns to water vapor? Puddles on the ground.Stop being retarded.
>>537614010that is really cool
Hydrogen and helium make metals brittle is why
>>537621186Nobody is suppressing it. Hydrogen can't succeed under capitalism because the laws of physics forbid it. Hydrogen can't even succeed under socialism with government subsidies out the ass like in California or Europe for the same reason. It's an insanely inefficient technology that will never be used.
>>537622537Electricity is a lot cheaper per km than gasoline.The batteries are the only expensive part and they have already become a lot cheaper and longer lasting and they keep getting better and cheaper year after year with loads of innovations still in the pipeline.
>>537621875kekdPops in my head regularly still.
>>537623083>Electricity is a lot cheaper per km than gasoline.I know, I know. And employers don't hire the cheaper women because they're all misogynists. Your fake figures have nothing to do with economic reality.
>>537622162Got any stats? I highly doubt hydrogen from any source cannot be too much more efficient to make than longer chain hydrocarbons (unless you're comparing some 40s era artificial oil plant to a modern hydrogen plant, and I do concede hydrogen manufacturing has more experience because we use it for ammonia in fertilizer). But in any case, our entire infrastructure, all our handling procedures, all that, is already built around oil. Hydrogen provides no advantage, not even environmental.
>>537610011>wait until this retard learns about Ammonia Borane
>>537623221>Tesla Model 3 = 82 kWh battery>average cost of US electric = $0.17>cost to recharge = $14Meanwhile I just paid $36 to refill my Toyota Corolla. For 90% of people, EVs make the most sense and once China rolls out sodium-ion batteries like they're already doing then only semi trucks will need fuel.
Doesnt hydrogen have to be kept under pressure?
>>537623304I meant with the same amount of hydrogen you can drive several times further if you use a fuel cell to generate electricity to power an electric motor than to burn it in an internal combustion engine.ICE's are just very inefficient generating way more heat than useful motion.Converting hydrogen to synthetic gasoline means you have to burn it in one of those inefficient ICE's.I have read somewhere how much F1 teams spend on synthetic fuels but I can't remember exactly, crazy F1 amounts like millions to run two cars over a season (but still change compared to the hundreds of millions the whole team costs to run so they don't care).
>>537623898You can also cool it down until it becomes a liquid.But then you have to keep it that cold until you use it.It's what many rockets use and they're thinking about powering airliners that way.
>>537624047Neat. But how long will it stay cooled if you put it in a car?
