This site is full of people who erroneously believe that they can think logically without studying a single page of logic.
>>537635068That sounds entirely un-logical
>>537635068Europoors shouldnt be able to use american inventions like the internet and 4chan
>>537635068>nooo some guy has to tell you how to think or else you're thinking wrongcuck slave mindset. some richnigger philosopher isn't going to tell me the "correct" way to think
>>537635205the internet is british and 4chan is japanese. you can use the jewish invention, google, to check.
>>537635068/pol/ users that have read the sticky have studied more logic then 90% of the populous. Logic should legitimately be part of the regular k-12 curriculum.
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>>537635068If you have to study logic, to think logically, you're too fucking stupid to apply it, anyway.
if it makes sense it makes senseif it doesn't, it doesn'twhy do you need other people to tell you some "method" to figure out what does or doesn't make sense
>>537635283You're wrong.
>>537635547No, you're just brainwashed.
>>537635068Hear me out... niggers tounge my anus.
>>537635188If you got your education in logic from Star Trek, you're not just ignorant, you're ill educated.
>>537635561>>537635578so you're going to do the worst excuses for logical replies the whole thread, eh
>>537635068https://youtu.be/g-2Didi1bnk
>>537635188Fpbp ipso facto people from Sweden are fuggin retarded, how's that logic Swedelandia? Lick my balls
>>537635553See picrel or listen to this clip.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8MyllahXgwFreemasons and Jews study logic and that's why they have power over you.https://archive.org/details/logicorrightuseo00watthttps://archive.org/details/logick_2507_librivox
The time for arguments has come and gone.
>>537635068Who taught the first guy that wrote the book on logic how to logic? Sounds to me like the book is bullshit, that's my logical conclusion.
>>537635068What do you even talk about with logic? Whether an object belongs to a category. Whether categories have certain properties. Whether two events occur together. Good luck picking up a woman with that kind of jibberish.
>>537635410>/pol/ users that have read the sticky have studied more logic then than>90% of the populousthe what?
>>537635332Hwat?!!! Hiro did what all chinks do and steal/procure White inventions, 4chan was and always will be for the White man and just because an American created it you would rather give credit to a chink than your more successful cousin. Fuck you
>>537635750First Premise: If the person who taught the first guy that wrote a book on logic to logic is unknown, then the book is likely bullshit.Second Premise: The Person who taught the first guy that wrote a book on logic to logic is unknown.Conclusion: Therefore the book is likely bullshit.Are you sure about the soundness of your First Premise?
>>537635068That's literally AI tho. Its binary weights and logic gates, they literally think logically without studying logic.
>>537635068Of what use is logic?The world runs on passions and deceptions. Truth has helped no main gain power, authority or wealth. Even if one could "prove" a truth to the masses, the masses do not care, and would follow their emotions to their own ruin if allowed. No, logic is nothing more than a hobby.
>>537635700my problem with these kinds of people's instructions on how to think is they're intertwined with mental gymnastics
>>537635068Logic is just the equivalent of 2+2 in idea form. Not all logic is sound in the grand scheme even if it's correct in a vacuum or isolated.The error is people believing any things they like are automatically "logical" and what they don't like is all "illogical."I bet you're one of those people OP, but you're free to state otherwise.
>>537635877100%, I had a dream about it last night.
>>537635877don't apply this to any widely known abrahamic works
>>537635700What's logical about cutting and sucking baby dick, jew? Yeah I know it's you.
>>537635700>Freemasons and Jews study logic and that's why they have power over you.Jews study logic because the devil is a litigator. Hell is found through sinful actions, not wrong reasoning. When one becomes aware of their offenses against God, whether that awareness be conscious or unconscious (i.e. gut feeling"), they cannot argue their way out of fit. The door to hell is opened by actions, the door is locked by argument. This is why we are told to never converse with a demon. Their intelligence is, by their own nature, far above ours, and we cannot be safe from their words.
>>537635068>post is OPErgo>post is gay
>>537636288Keep freestyling reasoning. It's not going to get you far.
>>537636565Answer the man.>>537636230
provide the answer to all odd-numbered questions, OP, or I simply will not be able to take you seriously
>>537636787Quit ducking, jew. Why cut and suck baby dick?
>>537635978>Logic is the beginning of wisdom, not the end.You don't seem to understand what that's saying. You didn't even study logic at all, and yet you think you're wise.
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>>537637534see>>537636634
>I studied logic, I'm smart.makes a completely illogical decision to post on 4chin about it.This is not logic, this is narcissism.You did not understand what you read.
>>537635803He misspelled populace.
>>537635068OP thinks he can breathe without studying a single page of respiratory mechanics.
>>537635068And they're right. Logic is not about the formal rules being followed. It's about understanding the structure of your claims and supporting arguments.Studying logic is a lot like practicing Raven's Progressive Matrices. It may improve your ability to perform certain specific tasks. But it will not meaningfully improve the basal charactaristics that might have originally caused you to stumble. An illogical person who studies logic is still just as illogical. He just has a bunch of new terminology to dress his egotistically motivated reasoning with.
>>537635205Euro hours were always the best. Now it's shirskin hours 24/7
>>537638399Nope, see: >>537635700You haven't studied a single page of logic and yet you have an opinion about logic.
>>537635068>without studying a single page of logicThe fuck does this even mean? Do you have a book of logic?
>>537638949I actually have studied logic. So your accusation is incorrect. And even if it were correct, that critique is fallacious (ad hominim).With regard to your image: we can strip away the flowery prose and evaluate the argument presented as "things are often not what they appear to be at a plain glance and logic is a tool we can use to distinguish between false appearances and less apparent truths. And practicing that logical reasoning will help us get better at it." The first two claims are correct. The third one has merit but not in the way you propose. You are conflating "logic" and it's use with the study of the formalized system we have developed to express it. That conflation is exactly my point of contention and you are begging the question by utilizing that conflation as part of your supporting argument.
>>537635068I agree with OP even if he's a faggot, anyone who hasn't studied formal logic is essentially incapable of reasoning at all. For example: OP studied logic, therefore everything he concluded must be correct. Either you've read a logic textbook cover to cover or you're guessing. Like OP, I studied logic, so my opinion on the matter can be taken as fact. We start allowing uneducated cunts to attempt reason without studying logic, and civilization will collapse in two more weeks or less. Notwithstanding the aforementioned: Any argument about logic is wrong if you namefag.
>>537639191https://archive.org/details/logicorrightuseo00watthttps://archive.org/details/logick_2507_librivoxhttps://archive.org/details/the-trivium-the-liberal-arts-of-logic-grammar-and-rhetoric-sister-miriam-josephhttps://archive.org/details/artoflogicalthin00atki
>>537635068You are referring to the philosophy of logic, which has little to no barring on the real world. Actual useful logic is math.
>>537635068lol
LMAO even
>>537639359The faggot is you. Kys.
>>537635068Logic or philosophy?I agree though, for the record.
>>537635205Most 'Americans' shouldn't have a driver licenses.
Lmao. Only idiot nerds try and convince people with logic. The goal is to win, you can be right later.
>>537639294>I actually have studied logic.You didn't learn anything though since you clearly know jack shit about logic.
>>537635068Slippery slope isn't a fallacy.
>>537635283>>537635611You're wrong and retarded.
>>537635068You don't need to "study." You do have to be rooted in reality and value truth while hating its enemies, though.
>>537635068Is it logical to assume then, that the first men to utilize logical thinking must have learned it from a written page?From whence then came the first written page of logic?>t. has never read a page of logic
>>537635068>This site is full of people who erroneously believe that they can think logically without studying a single page of logic.How close to the top of the list of fallacies is "making assumptions"?
Logic is an internal process of deep understanding. What most itt are talking is rhetoric. OP is right, these people don't read.
>>537635700It's interesting how if this is from The Enlightenment era, they started off on the right track acknowledging God. And somewhere in there, The Enlightenment became about how people don't need God, or He doesn't exist, whatever floats your boat, as long as it's anti-God.The same thing happens with every movement, including Christianity. Satan sidetracks it invites tons of brainwashed normies in to dilute it and make it ineffective against him.
>>537635068You’re acting illogical which would make me believe that you haven’t studied logic either. >To tell the fool he’s a fool, is foolish.
>>537635068somewhere between "studying" logic lmaoand making roughneck shit upjust fucking whitetoids
>>537635561>>537635578>Pure ad homYou’re really proving your point here anon.
>>537639913Somewhere in there, they started critically analyzing the actual text of the Torah and realized it was fabricated by men to control the minds of men
>>537639708Yeah it is. See page 185.https://annas-archive.gl/md5/1e6db4b5cf36286682b541fc0016afd0
>>537639652Your behavior precisely demonstrates my point. You refuse to engage with the argument and use your "study of logic" as window dressing for the very same logical fallacies you would be committing had you never studied at all. You commit ad hominim by asserting that anyone who doesn't agree with you is doing so simply out of ignorance, and you beg the question as a means of justifying your application of the aforementioned fallacy (your conclusion is only those who study logic can think logically, so anyone not studying logic isn't thinking logically, so you feel you can discount anyone who disagrees you as not thinking logically because they clearly haven't studied logic). It's as if an electical engineer asserted that he's perfectly fine working on an electical system without cutting the breaker first because he understands electricity better than the people warning him to cut the power first.
>>537635068Studying logic can improve reasoning, but claiming nobody can think logically without studying logic is self-defeating. By the same reasoning, nobody could speak correctly without studying grammar. Formal study refines a skill; it doesn't create it from nothing
>>537639560Homophobic much? This is not inclusive language. You should check your privilege, OP.
>>537639652Ad hominem/Ab auctoritate mixNice. Tell me. It doesnt matter for this, but Im curious. In what capacity did you learn logic, how long and from whome?
>>537636230>Another reason that we should learn logic is because many things can appear disguised, under false colors, and are not as they appear.Such as this post made by either someone so utterly vile they can't discern the truth and is actively working to deceive others, or an actual democrat illuminati satanist bot.
