10kg of powerpaste stores 1kg of hydrogenstudents recently drove a tiny car over 1,500 miles on 950 grams (0.95kg) of hydrogeneven during an impending oil crisis humans will disregard the best fuel available in the universe
>>537642912Bump needs to be seen
>>537642912>disregardcalm down
>>537642912https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IANkXaF2_4YThese are a new Dutch invention. Hydrogen pellets have a look
How much energy does it take to create the powerpaste?
>>537643294How much energy does it take to make batteries or refine crude oil into super 95
>>537643226New inventions are useless when the technology is being suppressed
storage is the main problem of hydrogen. It needs to be under immense pressure, which means one fender bender coupd take out a city block.
>>537643410Powerpaste stores hydrogen at ambient temperature and pressure People are completely misinformed on this topic (on purpose)
1.8kw input power > 1kg hydrogen per day Never pay for fuel again
>>537643410Without knowing what power paste is this is probably its main point to solve
>>537642912Only Li ion and Hydrogen bomb has more energy density than other sources.
>>537643671It has been solved over a decade ago They received an award for this technology back in 2013 and it has been showcased since 2016
gasoline is also hydrogen storage, it burns because of its hydrogen.call again when you find an oil well full of free powerpaste.
>>537644242Show me an oil well that produces gasoline What the fuck this board
Well no wonder you’re all slaves
>>537643351Battery stands there doing nothing if not used. Hydrogen leaks. You can't contain it. Just transporting it from the production site to the place of use loses a quarter of it.
>>537643467How long does ut take for half of that hydrogen to leak? A week?
>>537647594>>537647575the hydrogen is bound to magnesium there is no leakage
>>537642912>even during an impending oil crisis humans will disregard the best fuel available in the universejews do not make money off hydrogen paste
>>537642912If I eat it what happens?
>>537648004you can avoid the jew and make it yourself that’s the magical thing about it that no one seems to understand
>>537648280you turn super saiyan
>>537642912>humans will disregard the best fuel available in the universeOhh you mean demons like jews, Americans and oil muslims?Yeah they need oil economy to control the goyim.
>>537643467This is the first time I've heard of powerpaste.I knew of the efficiency of gaseous hydrogen, how you can improve fuel economy with petrol by adding the hydrogen to the mix as well as reduce toxic emissions by up to 75% depending on the ratio.A Dutchman was talking about his experiences with hydrogen-combustion cars on a podcast earlier this year.That's where I also learned that CO2 and water vapour show up the same in spectrography.They can't tell how much CO2 is actually being emitted by cars since they're not using sequestration techniques to scoop it out of the emissions to measure it.They just look at the spectrograph and say "mmm that's a lot of CO2".There is no CO2 in the emissions of gaseous hydrogen. There isn't even a carbon to make it with in the combustion process.So powerpaste looks good.Maybe we can use it to power lighters and home generators, basic things like that.I hope Toyota's multifuel engine will swallow it without much modification.
>>537643294Cool it with the antisemitism
>>537642912Buy an ad
>>537648730Your post reads like a shitjeet trying to sell some grift he doesn't understand.
>>537648730You can power anything with itIt’s just a hydrogen storage solution and the waste product can be made into more paste
>>537649078I'm thinking more about the engines.Right now we have nice smooth lubricated pistons going up and down, with liquids being squirted down their tight holes for the big suck squeeze bang.I have no idea how viscous powerpaste is, I need to look up more about it.
>>537649227Fuel cells don’t use pistons or any moving parts
>>537649227>>537649078Ooooooh I found itYou add water to the magnesium hydride and create gasThat then gets burned or electrolysed in a fuel cellYeeessss I see nowThat was a missing link for me
>>537649390You got it
They can set record after record but the cattle brain will not understand
>>537642912this is why you lost, it doesn't matter what is possible - what matters is who has the power - after ukropigs blow up the last refinery in russia with storm shadow cruise missiles you will buy anglokike oil for generations to come
>>537647719>the hydrogen is bound to magnesiumthe fires after the detonation will be legendary.
>>537642912>humansYou mean jews will kill you to stop advancements like this...
>>537652381who is gonna detonate it?
low iq board hydrogen is the way
>>537643294>How much energy does it take to create the powerpaste?Immaterial as various Waste Heat or Concentrated Solar power input energies can be leveraged.You fuckin KIKE.
>>537642912>students recently drove a tiny car over 1,500 miles on 950 grams (0.95kg) of hydrogenwhat they left out of this is,>the car weighed 12lb>reached a max velocity of 1.5mph and took days on end to complete
>>537647575>>537643294>>537643351>>537643410>>537647594>it just won't work!Wrong.
>>537657220>it doesnt matter how much energy this fuel conversion requires
>>537657358>lying on the internet
>>537658989hah, so I was off by about half, they went like 25mph and the car was lmao 150lbbut they did take days on end to complete it>but we did in 72 hours what can take you 20 in a normal carlol, lmao evenget back to us when this shit is akshually viable and they're not just doing little test stunts with vehicles suited to carry a family of ferrets
>>537654097any minor traffic accident. even worse than Li batteries. Obviously hydrogen is the most efficient fuel to use from a chemical perspective but it comes with a lot of major practical issues.
>>537643294Hydrogen is combined with a transition catalyst and pure magnesium metal under high pressure. This is a safe controlled industrial process no more energy consuming than standard fuel refining. To turn back the spent hydrogen fuel into magnesium metal you need to either calcine it or use a chloro silicon route with molten salts. But again not that big of a deal considering fossil fuels waste 70% of their energy as heat. And we calcine limestone to create concrete in the hundreds of billions of tons everyday. And guess what? It takes half as much heat to calcine magnesium hydroxide (the spent byproduct) than it does to create cement. Because you’re driving off a hydroxide instead of a carbonate. And the binder used to make the hydride into a paste? It’s just silicone oils or esters. The only real limiting factor is fuel cells. But those aren’t terribly hard to mass produce it’s just sulfuric acid treated styrofoam. Right now fuel cells are expensive because of lack of mass manufacturing and price gauging from the membrane producers.
>>537659551Magnesium hydride remains stable until reacted with water where it produces an alkali fuel and hydrogen gas. Said hydrogen gas is not under pressure so it’s nowhere near the danger of traditional fuel or lithium batteries. Hydrogen is a promoter not a detonator what does this mean? In a car on its own if an active fuel hydrogen line was breached and ignited assuming no flash back arrestor was present in line you just get a sharp crack and then nothing.
>>537658724Fossil fuels waste 70% of their energy the only reason we use them is because that waste was covered up front when the earth started creating the crude oil under immense heat and pressure. But when we have to start making our own fuels ourselves. We can afford to waste so much of our input.
Wow I’m generating unique varied IDs on the fly? Interesting information. Now I know how kikes spam this site with propaganda.
You are free to fuel your car with this dumb shit if you want.
>>537654097Anon, try explain to this dorks what are metal hydrides...
>>537642912>if everyone drives a tiny car and uses the insanely expensive plants and transport for this shit we can beat Putler in 40 yearskys
>>537642912Only amazon forklifts can efficiently run on hydrogen you nosey goy
>>537642912how much would it cost to convert the entire fleet of global vehicles to this technology i wonder>between 18 and 56 trillion dollarsok
>>537659983>Magnesium hydride remains stable until reacted with water where it produces an alkali fuel and hydrogen gasWrong retard.Why don't you read the fucking article before you comment.https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1782229644537694.pngThe Temperature MUST be above H2O boiling point for reactivity to commence.
Keep trying to make cylinders strong enough to hold compressed hydrogen so you blow yourself up silly goy, no on demand hydrogen for you
>>537644283i have one in my garden
>>537660190>We can afford to waste
>>537642912so can you use it with your own solarpanels electricity to generate hydrogen and colect it at your own household hydrogen generation & storage plant and tank your hudrogen fueled car and tell goverment to fuck off?
>>537657220EROI is critical. Even solar is a technical negative; more energy is consumed mining/manufacturing than the panel is expected to produce.
>>537664105>When you're too dumb to appropriately distinguish between Energy Expenditures from Monetary Expendituresretard beyond belief
>>537648730Jews lush gaseous hydrogen because they want to pretend hydrogen vehicles aren't an already solved problem.Guy who ran his car on water? Simple hydrolysis. He was killed due to scaring the Jews and oil industry.
>>537659405imagine an ebike with that range the Mercedes f-cell suv uses 340 grams per 100km
>>537664512hey man I just woke up but you know what I fucking mean
>>537662110basically, if you wanna lone wolf it I would rather build an infrastructure with your neighbors
>>537657358This post has been fact checked by real Ford patriots. Hydrogensissies will not conquer our roads.
>>537642912OP pic is horseshit because it doesn't take into account the fuel cell apparatus overhead in mass or volume to convert the hydrogen into electricity. Add that in for the paste, a gen set for the fuels and suddenly the battery doesn't look so bad at a system level if all you need is electricity.In typical German fashion, these people have spent a lot of time and effort to create what is essentially a wonderful new disposable battery. Too bad disposable batteries are inherently ass for a dozen different reasons.No one is going to use this. Maybe, and it's a big maybe, it could have some use in electric aircraft, but that's the only use case I'd see where the inherent flaws might be worth it for the fuel density.
>>537665970your Li-ion batteries are trash compared to powerpaste, Elon Waste of precious resources
>>537664105This is trivially demonstratable as horseshit.If that were true, the price of the panel would have to be more than the expected return of the panel.Let's just look on Amazon real quick.100w standard panel is $80.Price of electricity worldwide averages around $.17/kWh.Expected payoff is 470.5 hours of sunlight if you use it all as it's produced.Yearly peak sun is 1,460 hours/year.Your panel is positive ROI in the first third of the year.>>537666404You are full of shit and have no real engineering reasoning to back that up.They made a big ass disposable battery that you still have to have a mobile chemistry set onboard to run and that's all there is to it.
>>537664714>imagine an ebike with that range
a recent study show that Algeria's green hydrogen cost is at 4 euros per Kg https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306261926004289Germany will get its hydrogen from Algeria (South2 corridor)
>>537666543>Price of electricity worldwide averages around $.17/kWh.go get your electric bill and see what they are really charging youthen double it, because you are getting hit with a generation cost as well as a delivery costthey did this because some local governments tried capping what they could charge, so their fix was to outright double the chargeso even if by some fantasy you're "paying" .17 per kwh, in reality it is .34
>>537666543You are full of shit trying to suppress the only technology that can free us
>>537666690>>537666543solar energy here in algeria is at $.015/kWh to $.02/kWh.
>>537642912Ok cool very interesting with the hidroginpast or whatever, so which stocks should I buy?
>>537667135buy gabenewell coins instead
>>537666690>in reality it is .34Well then the fucking panel pays for itself in a sixth of the year instead of a third for people in that situation. Thanks for reinforcing my point.>>537666833A disposable battery isn't saving shit.Even if recycling is trivial, just transporting the spent containers to the exchange facility (you'll need that added expense also!) and back absolutely destroys any potential that this can outperform high performance rechargeable batteries.I cannot think of any scenario I'd want to use this thing to power something over standard fuel or batteries. Maybe a long-range suicide glide drone?If you want energy storage that might actually materially improve things, look at grid-scale flow batteries.
>>537667494>Well then the fucking panel pays for itself if I just ignore the cost of the panels and installationthis is like taking the refining costs out of the gas price, faggot
>>537656780Hydrogen only ever makes sense if electricity is free. Is your electricity free Hans?
>>537667799its (basically) free in algeria, that's why we have a massive green hydrogen project, with 1 million tons of green hydrogen exported before 2035, and 10 millions eventuallybruxelle wants to invest 25 billions in this before 2035
>>537667913How much of this “free” hydrogen has Germany already imported? I’m guessing none, but definitely lots ten years from now, right?
>>537667601My assumption was the most basic possible configuration, laying it directly on the ground hooked into something useful its voltage can power, but you can add in a mounting kit, a battery and a charge controller to quadruple the price and it still pays for itself many, many times over the life of the equipment.If you think differently, please share whatever shitty math has brought you to any other conclusion.
>>537647719>>537648311>>537649078Ok, so I looked it up, because you make it look too good to be true.And guess what. It's too good to be true. Hydrogen from it costs 3 times the regular hydrogen. It has a low trip efficiency and to make it you still need to deal with a regular hydrogen and high pressure and temp. It sucks in all metrics comparing to lithium ion battery. But it might be used in aviation.
>>537668174>My assumption was something basically nobody is going to havewhy do these fags bother arguing so hard
>>537668047SoutH2 is a serious project with high level officials of all the involved countries meeting several times in the past year at 4 euros / kg hydrogen is viable nowhttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306261926004289
>>537668655>euros have endless meetings, news at 11Is any of this infrastructure built? A single km of pipeline? Of course it’s not.
>>537667494No battery will outperform powerpaste or hydrogen in general
>>537659765You lose energy in every step. You will without a doubt end up with way less than 10% efficiency measured by how how much energy it took for the entire process divided by how much energy you get out from the engine from that amount of hydrogen
>>537668906You are meaninglessly reasserting your statement of faith on that matter. Come back when you have some engineering to back that up.
>>537668906And power paste will be completely outclassed by antimatter.If you try to reduce a complex system to one variable you will make very bad decisions and the actions you take based on that variable will not reflect reality in the way you expect.
>>537669126I’m phoneposting on the move You can look up the numbers Battery weight per kwh compared to powerpaste or hydrogen >>537669126
>>537669253Don't forget zero point energy anon
>>537642912No one's disregarding it you silly billy. We're waiting on it to be made commercially viable. It's very obviously not there yet.
>>537669556Sure, we will without a doubt have that before power paste becomes a thing. At least I hope so because if power paste gets serious adoption by nation states we can expect a noticeable decline in quality of life due to idiotic energy management.
>>537668762a pilot hydrogen producing plant is already activealso isnt saudi arabia already exporting ammonia to japan?
>>537669682People like gates or musk are heavily investing in batteries so this tech is not going anywhere Powerpaste has been available for a decade Fuel cells much longer
>>537669750One single commercial wind turbine can generate tons of hydrogen per day All you have against it is shit flinging
>>537669923So many projects have soaked up billions of euros in subsidies only to be canceled. Only a few are still moving forward and AFAIK everyone single one of them project far smaller production than initial estimations and a higher CO2 footprint per unit of hydrogen compared to hydrogen (hydrogen from methane). Anyone who knows even the most basic thermodynamics understands that it would be more efficient to burn the methane directly instead of ripping of the hydrogen atoms from it and then burn that.
>>537670059Hydrogen fuel cells are genuinely ass. That's why powerpaste was invented. You're utterly delusional if you don't think the billionaire class are keeping tabs on this and investing in it.
>>537670254Powerpaste is the storage medium Fuel cells turn the hydrogen into electricity What a retarded troll board
>>537670213May we see they happening outside of a lab?Anyway EROI is what you should care about and even if such projects would work, which they don't, they would still be stupid. Not to mention tertiary problems such as hydrogen embrittling.
>>537670254I have heard verbatim those same words escape the lips of people trying to shill literally any alternative fuel source, please take time to reanalyze your ego because you're the alternative energy equivalent of unself-aware Fudds at a gunshow telling people "No low ballin' I know what I got". I am not saying this as an attack on you as a person but a caution towards improving your own worth on this topic that you're clearly passionate for in a way that others may be too "nice" to stop you from continuing.
>>537670362They are both a storage medium you retard. How do you think fuel cells work?
>>537669302I already looked at the numbers.They do not include the weight of the conversion mechanism in the calculations.It's like comparing the energy density of a tank of gas to an EV battery set but leaving out the weight of the combustion engine you need for the gas to be able to move the car in the calculations.It also regulates power output by fucking dripping water, so if you're using it in a car you're going to need what is basically a standard EV anyway and just use this as a range extender. Then, on top of that, you have to carry the water onboard also to react with and it doesn't even have the decency of burning up the fuel source so you have to haul the entire dead weight of the slurry around just like you would a dead battery, except now you have to physically pull out and replace this heavy ass cartridge every time you need more juice.It just sucks every way I look at it.
>>537670377You can buy an electrolyzer for your home that will generate 1kg per day >>537643667and that’s just the small version
>>537670478Are you replying to the right person? If so I'm not sure you understand what my point is.
>>537670535You’re just unable to think outside of what is commercially available Even with fuel cell+powerpaste+water you have less weight than with a battery
>>537670554Producing hydrogen gas was never the problem with this tech. You can do that with a car battery and tap water if you wish.
>>537670554Do you think that you can plug that into the output from a wind turbine and it would work? You need a stable grid for that to work, you wouldn't be able to boot it and if you tried you'd be lucky if you only bricked part of it. Also good luck running a factory with thousands of those. That's the least of your problems though. Why do you think pretty much all hydrogen factory projects have failed in the EU despite billions in subsidies? Even if you fix all problems that are inherent to automated factories, production only when there excess electricity and thode problems that current and former projects have struggled with you'd still have the problems of storage and low EROI.
Yeah I’m not responding to your troll science anymoreYou’re just demonstrating the active shilling against hydrogen technology
>>537671172You lack a basic grasp of thermodynamics and electricity, not to mention electric grids.You have never worked in a factory, especially not in production or an associated role such as maintenance or automation.You are a naive dreamer but your naive dreaming has a real cost. The billions of EU dollars wasted on hydrogen projects could've been spent on actually improving the grid and they could've been invested into technologies which actually stands a chance to refuce CO2 emissions.
>>537671594TrollYou don’t need a grid to generate hydrogenAnd I’ve worked in a factory at mercedesFuck offI’ve also built my own electrolyzer for hho welding It’s powered by a solar panel
>>537670878Your problem is you are thinking to far outside of what is commercially available.Gas is gas and has been around forever. All of the logistical problems are worked out. Enormous legacy momentumBattery EVs have been around for decades now. They require a functional electric grid and charging stations. Both already exists.There is a zero percent chance people will swap over to this tech.Even if the benefits were numerous and clear, they'd still not swap to this tech. They are not. You'd need to scale mass magnesium supply, mass hydride production, mass paste manufacturing, cartridge/paste distribution, spent material collection, regeneration back to hydride, fuel-cell-grade hydrogen cleanup onboard and a dozen other problems that I can't think of off the top of my head besides those, only to still get absolutely mogged on overall power efficiency by a battery EV.It's not only not going to fucking happen, it shouldn't happen.It's dumb.You can argue it for something like a stealthy, long range, glide military UAV, but that is the singular application where this makes any kind of sense and it still probably wouldn't make it out of planning once you really got into the nuts and bolts of it.
>>537671770Yeah, I doubt you actually worked there for long if you think factories that only operate fully when the wind is blowing enough for there to be overproduction are a good idea. Do the fucking math on the electrolyzer yourself. 1.8 kw for 1 day and you get 1 kg of hydrogen.You must think wind power is some form infinite energy generation if you think that's a good deal.
>>537646319>Well no wonder you’re all slavesI ride a donkey, it's fuel grows freely and abundantly in my garden, it self replicates and it's waste only improves my garden and thus it's fuel source.Has your technology brought you freedom or slavery?
>>537672290Combine wind with solar and a bigger electrolyzer (not just 27 cells) and you generate 1kg in several hours at peak performance or in a day with wind solar fluctuations China built a solar park that generates up to 21GW It could power several factories permanently (even at night with storage)
>>537672028Hydrogen cars have been around for decadesThey just workBeautifully soThe only problem is the suppression of this technology They claim there is no infrastructure Because they don’t make one
>>537672597Freedom and a great hobby
>>537673842>>537674246What's the end-to-end power efficiency on regenerated paste energy in/out?If it's over 25% before transport, I'll eat my fucking hat.You are likely wasting over 3 times the amount of usable power you are getting out of it as loss over just recharging a battery EV *on top* of massively complexifying the logistics chain.And what specific problem does it actually solve? Theoretically faster refueling times? Slightly lighter vehicles? Shelf life is real, but matters a lot less than most people think.Nothing that trumps that much wasted energy at grid scale.They aren't suppressing it out of malice. In fact, as the swede pointed out, they've wasted billions in research costs actively trying to make it work. It's just shit, no conspiracy needed. Shit tech suppresses itself.
>>537642912>>537643138Hydrogen leaks and is absolute shitThe future for towing is diesel electric hybrids on freight tractors; we already use them in trainsI know trains is a hard jobAnd theres big money to be had going viral stunting in front of oneHey heres an idea: instead of stupid retsrded shil threads of enclosed preprogrammed discussion, you instead go organically fuck yourself and your own assholeVery kindly benchods sirs, thank you, all fields sirs!
>>537674598Take a manned drone like the jetson oneIts flight time is limited to 30 minutes because of lithium batteries With hydrogen you would have hours of air time
>>537674811Apply this to anything else, from exoskeletons to scooters
It’s suppressed because you can make it at home With lithium you are dependent on those that mine the lithium and build the batteries That’s why they shove it down your throat
>>537643294Irrelevant. There are a lot of excess power sources that get wasted. For instance in Finland we've overbuilt wind power to the point that when it's windy, the price goes negative and the power companies pay people to use electricity. Also the last nuclear reactor built in Finland produces 1600 MW of electricity but it also produces 2400 MW of thermal power which currently gets dumped into the ocean nearby.
>>537674811EAV is the single application I've conceded this might make sense in.>>537674890>exoskeletonsshit applicationYou're going to dump half the power the unit produces into the person the suit is strapped to with no advantage over just swapping a battery pack that can then immediately go onto a charger.>>537675079Post your at-home powerpaste reprocessing center design please.
>>537675779A powerpaste cartridge can be swapped just as quickly plus its power to weight ratio is much better You return your used cartridge and it will be recycled into new paste
>>537642912Metal hydrides are the great way to store hydrogen for cars and trucks. It's ambient temperature and only needs heat to extract the hydrogen.
>>537675079Hydrogen makes a great battery and it leaks little to nothing for an year scale. A good metal hydride would make the a car 5x cheap.
>>537643667Is this proven?
>>537675779>>537674811There are tons of problems with it, just read the breads we had in the past on this. I'm banned so I'm not posting my data but:It needs to react with water. If you count the water mass, its terrible.It also makes a shitload of heat.You can just use solar based HHO electrolysis in place.The paste requires a fuel cell.It only looks good because it ignores the water problem, but then every H2 system looks amazing when you do that.
>>537679755yeshowever, they sell this thing for $30kthat's one way to suppress a technology>the free market will fix it
>>537679755No.1 kg of H2 is 142 MJ1.8 × 24 = 43 KWh142MJ / 86400s = 1.64 KW
>>537680002the water isn't a problem, you just double the weightit still beats batteries by miles and is equal to gasoline
>>537647575>Hydrogen leaks. You can't contain itThis has been solved years ago.
>>537642912Bump for interest, might actually be a game changer if true.
>>537680454https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnTp3PbXza8
>>537680322Go away retard.You can go find the info easily.1Kg H2 = 9Kg H2O + 10 Kg PowerPaste 142MJ/19Kg = 7.5 MJ/KgAnything with a 40lb power pack could just have a 5 gallon fuel tank and a small engine. 5 gallons = 660 MJStupid fucking German from all the other breads prob
>>537659983Hydrogen is a good energy storage medium. Eventually we will be using it in some way to power transportation. And making it during off peak hours at atomic power plants. But nothing is a panacea. High pressure storage is practical now, and this hydride storage is a possibility. But keep in mind, China's "non nuclear h bomb" was a fuel air explosive using magnesium hydride which is *pyrophoric* and decomposes into flammable hydrogen and magnesium when heated, as in a fire. High pressure tank storage and gas refilling has already seen some commercial use, successful technically if not in the market. It is at the point where, if we had to use it, we could, though the costs are not presently competitive with gasoline, natural gas, or battery autosThe refueling systems are being actively developed. This would be going faster if several of the companies involved werent run by foolish nepotist Indians.
>>537680680suv using gasoline consumes 8-9kg per 100kmsuv using hydrogen consumes 0.34kg per 100km
>>537681205Keep lying like a jew. Everyone can see.0.34Kg H2 = 48.3MJ (storage weight 6.5Kg)8Kg Gas = 373.6MJ (Storage weight 0Kg)Burning gas for transport gets more efficient as you burn the fuel, same thing with rockets.Die jew.
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>>537680344So-so. It hasnt been solved entirely, and pressures on the order of 20 ksi are always a sealing challenge, even in a grease gun. Its not that it cant be done, the hardware is just more expensive than your average filling station. Handling a pyrophoric hydride can be done too, but again its exotic. There are also competing ways to utilize hydrogen, like synthetic methanol, which is handled like gasoline. Or methanol synthesized from flare gas, which uses a wasted material to make valuable fuel. There is a lot of this work being done now, in the US as well as overseas, I have been somewhat involved in it.
>>537681901just noticed it's a hybrid
>tranny investor has to work
>>537681901>I don't even read or know I just looked for something that told me I was rightLiterally go away.
>>537681924All hydrocarbons are just replacing oxygen with innert carbon to hold the bonds. They are by definition, compressed hydrogen.Attempting to compete with hcs on density is retarded.They need to compete on exhaust efficiency, but they all use fuel cells instead because of the storage and pressure issue of scaling H2 into useful torque.H2 Airliners are thr future, but the jews don't want air travel
