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It fascinates me that counterculture was a big thing among Boomers, Gen X, and Millennials, but is nowhere to be found among Gen Z. What happened to counterculture? Why did it die off? Was any countercultures actually based or was there something subversive about it?
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>>537662313
because of social media gen z can find their small community online

also because of social media, brainrot prevents gen z from intellectualizing anything

also committing to a culture might require focus and some resolve, which happens less often without testosterone
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>>537662313
Because there used to be a centralized monoculture that you could rebel from, decentralization has made rebellion obsolete or performative.
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>>537662313
The grunge style was just rehashed 70s slop, striped shirts and all.
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>>537662313
Wearing hot topic shirts was not counter culture.
It was just the culture.
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>>537662313
Its funny because homophobia is not punk because the corporation said so
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>>537662313
>what are trannies
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>>537662313
Trad larpers and chuds are counterculture
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>>537662550
Epstein science project
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>>537662489
I've always gotten conflicting answers on that, but I do think punks hated gays, always calling people faggots, but like a lot of subcultures they ended up losing their charm.
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>>537662313
Gen z doesn't really have culture besides being addicted to porn and internet videos. The closest thing they have to any type of culture is lapring as niggers.
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people used to go outside. to be fair i sometimes see zoomzooms outside doing synchronised dancing. perhaps that's a subculture
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>>537662489
Fuck you I wont do what you tell me
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because nothing is closed off anymore. with social media and the internet everything is instantly accessible. as soon as something gets popular, the algorithms swoop in and advertise/buy up everything and the whole thing immediately dies or becomes boring.
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>>537662313
Kids used to g into stuff like metal or mongolian basket weaving before phasing out of it into adulthood. Now the only options are gender shit or effortmaxxing future wageslave, except it's permanent because the psyops are so much more powerful today.
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It's the End of History as Francis Fukuyama correctly predicted 30 years ago.
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>>537662594
Hot Rod enthusiasts and biker in the 60s were putting iron crosses on their machines and jackets, punks in the 70s were putting swastikas on their clothes, metal fans have always had a bit of a nazi presence. Racism has always been a big part of actual counterculture, whether people want to acknowledge it or not.
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>>537662313
Gen Z literally has no culture as they can't read or write in great numbers. They don't even understand a lot of terms, geography, or mathematics. It's going to take generations to fix this issue and the country will probably collapse long before that into a theocracy where people can't even read the Bible and rely on a confederation of protestant rabbis to preach out abominational interpretations of the Bible.
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>>537662795
No one can't convince me that society was supposed to end in 2014, like it feels like that was the last year in which anything made sense.
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>from guitars to clicky hihats
>from skateboards to tiktok
>from myspace to facebook
>from english to ebonics
>from memes to le ebin maymays
Le Fuuuu- wake the fuck up white man
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>>537662313
BEING RACIST AND ANTISEMITIC IS THE NEW COUNTER CULTURE RETARDS
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>>537662313
>slipknot
>iron maiden
Poser fags. I'd destroy this scrubs in the pit
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>>537663012
See>>537662851

Racism and anti-semitism was always the counterculture.
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They just became troons and activists. The alphabet people are your counter culture now.
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half the zoomers live in a perpetual state of post irony were everything is cringe, so they can't have fun nor take anything genuinely or seriously.
the other half became troons and commies.
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>>537663105
The alphabet people are the culture, they are in control of several major institutions and progressivism in varying degrees is supported by pretty much every institution.
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>>537662313
Because all of them were leftoid faggots, that's why. All Metalheads are pro-trans pro-immigration anti-fascists. Fucky anyone that even knows how to play an electric guitar, we should break your hands
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They spend a lot of time on places of the internet where being edgy isn't allowed or you get banned.

There's a lot of appropriating mallgoth fashion but with none of the sex or edge.
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>>537662313
>but is nowhere to be found among Gen Z. What happened to counterculture? Why did it die off?

they never went outside. never touched grass. there is nothing organic that they do. they do not meet in real meat irl space. everything they have ever done is digital.
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>>537662313
RIGHT WING BASICS
http://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1pi20Rr9_BxBbMIfcZUTTGslfZTifEiCm
google drive easy to use interface
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anon if you want real counter-culture.........
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>>537663316
>mallgoth fashion but with none of the sex
every 18yo zoomer "goth" or "emo" chick I had always ended with me nutting on the first date, its either a personal skill issue or a regional issue and I fucking doubt american women are less slutty than european women after seeing Clavs performance in Paris
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>>537663310
>faggots in yurop
>must be the whole world
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>>537662313
Zoomy has troon culture.
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>>537662313
Me 3rd from the right
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>>537663461
Idk I don't do things in real life but every zoomer on the internet seems to be vehemently anti-sex besides gay sex.
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>>537662720
Rage In Conjunction With and in Service of The Machine
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>>537662313
Actually driving a bmw and claiming sexual reparations in the form of neetbux by evil sexhavers is counterculture. These emo faggots you posted were not counterculture, they were actually the normies of their times.
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>>537662313
>What happened to counterculture? Why did it die off?
It was purely anti-white agenda pushed by jews, they're in all positions of power now so it isn't needed.
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>>537662313
It does exist. People joined these "counter-culture" groups almost exclusively because they wanted to belong or fit in with a group, and they couldn't belong or fit in with the more elite ones. If you were an ugly awkward weirdo, you weren't going to make friends with the school Chads and Stacys. So what do you do? You band together with a bunch of other misfits and make your shared identity about something else. It's not about your good looks and social status? Well, now it's about metal music and looking like a freak. It's not about fitting in with what your parents want for you? Well now it's about rebelling against every single thing they tell you is a good/proper thing to do. That sort of shit.

So what is the counter-culture of Gen Z? There are a couple of major ones I can identify:

>trannies/faggots/sexual identitarian weirdos
>broccoli heads

There's a reason why the jump from millennials to gen Z in the percentage of people who call themselves somehow affiliated with "LGBTQ" was like 20%+ and it isn't because there were previously just so many repressed and closeted faggots and they suddenly all at once realized that they could openly be faggots. It's because it became the misfit counter-culture that swallowed up many of the other ones. Think about it. In 1998, some weird misfit kid who wanted to stand out could become a goth and start wearing weird shit to school every day. In 2018 he could pretend to be a girl and wear a dress to school every day. Just as the goth kids didn't start out really believing the "dark" nihilistic shit they were spouting, and many of them grew out of it, the majority of people who label themselves as some brand of tranny or faggot or ESPECIALLY the "bi" or "genderqueer" or "non-binary" freakshows are people who just wanted to be different, attain acceptance and group membership somewhere, establish some kind of identity, and get attention.
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Interesting, I see a lot of people talking about internet subcultures. I was rather thinking that today's youth would rather not divert from the "current thing" which would keep them away from counterculture. At least from their clothing style.
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>>537663105
>>537663674
Trannies totally own the internet and permaban anyone who in any way criticizes them, and anyone in a public position who criticizes them besides known conservatives get fired from their jobs. Being against them is counterculture.
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>>537663960
It was a lot easier for goth kids or other weirdos to simply take off their makeup and go back to being normal. Imagine spending 5 years of your life pretending that you are indeed a girl, and making that your entire identity. For a lot of them, there is no going back from this juvenile little tantrum they decided to throw for attention in middle school or high school. So they persist in the only identity they have for themselves, and the mental illness builds. Some of them irreparably damage their bodies, but this same thing happened with other subcultures who tattooed themselves or did ear gages and other body modification.

So what happened to the non-faggoty sub-cultures? Well, many of them overlapped too much with the faggotry. Punk for example, was taken over by lefty faggots and anyone who didn't agree was kicked the fuck out. The larger counter-culture of degenerate faggotry began policing the other ones. Add in cancel culture, social media, and the fact that a kid who lashes out in 1996 nobody would have ever known, and a kid who did the same in 2020 has his entire life ruined by a mob of deranged people online meant that a counter to the counter-culture couldn't easily form.

Most of the young men who didn't want to get sucked into the faggotry fell very hard into this weird bland culture of broccoli hair cuts, saying words like "bussin" and "no cap" and trying to cope by looksmaxxing and trying desperately to be Chads.
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>>537662313
We used to have countercultures that didn't mean shit. They had no purpose other than just rebelling against mommy and daddy. Now the counterculture is lowkey Nazis, and it means everything, but it can get you attacked. The kids have to hide it, but you can definitely see it's there. There's also kids that larp as trad or rural. That's something I see a lot too. Blue jeans and big trucks, let's get married at 18 and have kids type of people. The counterculture are harkoning back to better times, rather than trying to make up some dumb utopian modernist shit like the woke faggots.

We set these countercultures in motion, there is no doubt about that. Absolutely none. If you've been here for 10+ years you're a proto-hipster. But we don't even make the majority of memes anymore. Twitter and Tiktok have exploded and it's all young kids making their own organic memes, some of which are way better than ours. The fire not only rises, it burns out of control.... Jewish control.
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>>537662313
Counterculture was performative rebellion that pushed the agenda of the status quo (see https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ted-kaczynski-the-system-s-neatest-trick).

By winning the culture war, they have no need for any more performative rebellion: all good goys are good goys bowing to the propaganda machine. Except for the real counter culture, the ones who won't eat bugs and be happy. The ones who will deny the holocaust and call out the kikes.

We are the one true counter culture.
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>>537662313
how can you have counter culture if you don't have culture
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>>537664013
The subcultures I can think of:
>ironic s.oyjak autists
>gymbros/looksmaxxers
>young conservatives/tradcaths
>trannies
>kids who like stuff like Deltarune and Amazing Digital Circus

Trannies are a subculture but I wouldn't count them as counterculture because they are pretty much *the* established culture of the youth and anyone against them becomes an outsider. They think in their self-victimized minds that they're counterculture again just because Trump's rhetoric was against them, but nothing actually came of that. In fact you could say it would be better had that not happened so an actual counterculture could fill in the false position of counterculture they're occupying.

Fashion-wise, you just have people who dress "normal" (hoodie and sweatpants which has been the default mode of dress for a while now), or people who dress in some poseur combination of mallgoth/baggy jeans lesbian/fake metal band logo shirts with ugly piercings.
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>>537664932
And I forgot to mention those fashion options aren't tied to any particular subculture, they're just for looks. You only have fake goths who don't listen to any goth music or smoke clove cigs or act goth. They could actually be part of any one of the previously mentioned subcultures, or none.
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Counterculture was ceded to the + community, and overeducated midwit women. New Atheism was already starting to make it very stuffy, so I wasn't taken aback by Angry Xitter Lesbians, circa 2013.
Now, the entire thing is corporate to the nines. Even protests are funded/endorsed. The first step out of this hell hole is punching out of algorithmic content.
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None of those were real countercultures. Just subversive freaks being subversive. Being a far right Chud is the counterculture, and it is the first real one that is actually opposed by the regime
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>>537664823
Sauce, now !
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Social media happened, and every "counterculture" was taken over by retarded women who are incapable of actually being counterculture.
Which is why you see retarded shit like "homophobia isn't punk!"
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>>537665281
commie homosexual jews were suppressed and swept under the rug every time they shit in america's collective mailbox
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>>537664915

>how can you have counter culture if you don't have culture

ultimate truth nuke
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>>537662550
trannies can't be counterculture when 'the culture' is literally bending over backwards to accomodate them
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>>537662550
scientology for millennials
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>>537662313
The Internet killed it. Everyone is too interconnected.
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>>537662313
Today the coutner culture is no definied by some single fashion aesthetic or some centralized musical movement or what.

The counter culture of today are people who disingage from tech, social media, go low tech, refuse to be lead by an algorythm.

Reclamin analog = 21st century counter culture

All the rest is just some larp, mixing old counter culture to make more money out of the lifestyle etc...

If you have social media, and partake in it. You're an NPC.
No matter left, center or right. You're playing the game of big corpo to be divided into millions of self contained micro cultures. And they make you hate eachother so you become more and more of a slave to the puppeteers
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>>537662313
Where are their cellphones?
I don't understand what is happening here.
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>>537665658
>Today the coutner culture is no definied by some single fashion aesthetic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQj--Kjn0z8

jews
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>>537662313
>Why did it die off?
Because the internet (and smartphones) atomized people into ever smaller subcategories. Also it made it possible that people were exposed to literally every kind of information all the time.
Some Austrian journalist saw it all coming already in 2009:
>Youth cultures were once style-defining, setting trends and shaping markets. This hasn't been the case for several years. Youth cultures are becoming increasingly fragmented and are co-opted by the media at an early stage. Currently, hip-hop is the last dominant youth culture - and it will be the last. Things are becoming more fragmented, more contradictory, faster-paced. Styles are merging into one another. The omnipresence of the media no longer allows for any incubation period for the development of authentic youth cultures: the complete mediatization of consumer culture practically eliminates subcultures and youth cultures. If cliques and new styles emerge somewhere in the world today, they're already on the corporate agenda tomorrow.
Personally I don't think this is all bad. I very much like the tolerant kind of attitude that Zoomers have. Back in the early 2000s you were called a faggot traitor because you bought pants from the "wrong" brand. I like that Zoomers stopped this elitist shit.
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>>537662313
Incel Chuddism is the punk rock of our time. We are currently in the 1980s era equivalent, where chuddism has expanded past the initial groups of virgins who invented it to a wider normie audience and chud slang and attitudes are becoming popular with the youths. 50 years from now normies and women will claim they were always down with the chuds and ‘cels and that true chuds are anti racist and respect women.
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>>537665730
Jews are just parasitic, it's their nature, not their fault.
You let jews control you, they'll do it.

Just don't be a goy?

I never think about the jews honestly, fuck them rats who cares?
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>>537665860
>My group is the most cool and most radical guys, the others are losers hahaha

Says every god damn micro culture on the internet.

You're as lost in this as the libtards you nigger
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>>537665906
I'm just saying the fashion aspects of counter culture is some fruity jew that wants male ass
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Being different or caring about anything are seen as cringe by Gen Z
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>>537662984
>facebook
wat
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>>537662313
>metal scene sucks now because lack of testosterone in youth
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>>537662313
>counterculture
>being a faggot larper
fuck off with your gay shit, there is nothinf wrong with kids not larping as retards. Subcultures are the cringiest shit.
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Because counterculture was primarily a left thing so it always started creating a new culture through art, now that right wingers are playing to be the counterculture you only get memes maybe
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>>537662313
The End of History was published in 1992.
We are occupied by a death cult that sees us as their sacrificial goy cattle. Zoomers and all that come after ARE the counterculture.
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>>537662313
>Why did it die off?
Smartphones. It's always the fucking phones
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>>537665469
basically yeah
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>>537662313
metalheads of the 90's are the trannies of today lol
most metalheads today are single manlets / incels
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>>537662313
There is no culture to counter
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>>537662313
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiKuO-dABjY
American counterculture kids used to be like this.
Very different from the broccoli haired tiktok faggots of today.
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>>537663960
>>537662313
All thos sub cultures were always filled with LGBTQ people and eccentrics. Many of us hid out in alt scenes because you would get called a faggot for being goth but you also could use that as cover to be a fag publicly without raising as many eyebrows. An example from my life was having a bobcut and pigtails in high school 06-10. I hung out with the goths, juggalos and metal heads so people thought I was just doing that for those reasons not because I was a tranny.

9/10 of the people I hung out with in subcultures ended up coming out as adults if they weren't already out as kids.
>>537664351
At most you got libertarians, most punks and goths were always left wing or liberals
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The word autism/autistic has done a lot of social damage. If you even think of dressing different, eccentric, whimsical, edgy, etc. people would think you have a mental illness and/or are autistic then avoid you.

Notice nobody gave hipsters that label because autism wasn’t talked about in the 2010s.
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>>537666955
You lost tranny
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>>537667043
Im a married mom with a wife (childhood friend) and daughter with a career
What am I losing again?

2008 was so long ago
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>>537663461
Yeah, but then they ghost you and move on to the next dude. Every mall goth zoomer just nonchalantly mentions that they had casual sex 15 minutes ago with absolute apathy.

>Yeah I just fucked my ex before I showed up. No biggie.
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>>537662720
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>>537662313
Zoomers just consume everything without retaining anything

They don't have a personality or even free-will to develop culture let alone counter-culture
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>>537662313
Counterculture was always subversive. It's jewish divide and conquer tactics. It worked wonderfully for them
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I have a few friends that were part of counter culture. They don’t dress that way but they still go to shows and smoke a lot of weed, play in bands
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>>537662313
>What happened to counterculture?
Everything was nuked by Globohomo, MSM started to make it fashionable so counter-cultures became a consumption product that replaced them with GloboHomo kosher subcultures that eventually faded away.
As the Americans keep falling into decadence and transitioning into a fascist state then the cultural vandalism will continue as it is one of the last ditch tactics to keep power in the hands of the American 1%.
The system no longer supports independent cultural frameworks, everything must be collapsed into a single consumer culture to sustain the American corporate consortium in their early stage fascism form.
Social media has been a tragedy.
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>>537667772
It’s not even fascism. It’s capitalism. Emo, not that pretentious sweater vest variant, was made by the GAP corporation, the parent to Hot Topic. It was marketed as the mainstream and that if you didn’t dress like some variant of this, you were going to be alone, and there was some truth to this. Deviating from the mainstream was shamed as it was considered not profitable. Someone who is genuinely counterculture is not profitable. Remember that.

Today, it’s the same. If you dress bold, with taste, and not following the latest, rather bland in my opinion, style, you will be hit with the label autistic or assumed to be mentally ill because, again, you’re not profitable.

Don’t be unique or tasteful. You might hurt profits if everyone follows your aura instead of ours!
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>>537663012
been since 08 for the real ones
>t contrarian
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>>537662313
There's no more culture to counter.
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>>537667394
That would imply the base culture had no faults. The base culture here has always been a joke.
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>>537668255
They certainly arent going to start acting out against the hip hop culture. Counter Culture was designed to destroy the White family unit.
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>>537668043
I am sorry to inform you that America is no longer a democracy, your expected black shirt militia came in the form of a militant SJW/Alt-Right info-hazards ready to censor everything that is not approved with a kosher seal of approval by the cathedral.
Counter-Cultures had to go, and cultural vandalism will continue until the billionaire's profits increase and the state manages to push for a single national ideology to be then forced to the Western world under threats of nukes.
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thing is the people who dressed like that were also influenced by mass media like picrel. it's just novelty to sell more clothes, music, and other shit.
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>>537668520
That’s literally the definition of an oligarchy. The government would be the law-making and military arm of the corporation.
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What culture are they supposed to counter? The world is a cluster fuck of immigrants and mystery meat there is no culture any more. Their attempt at counter culture is liking the shit we millenials grew up with because even zooms understand there's been nothing good in their lifetimes
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>>537662313
The counter culture is being normal.
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>>537668602
>slipknot tshirt
also that specific form of counter culture was to push nihilism, get kids to think nothing means anything so they ultimately can be moulded to do whatever. if not then kill themselves which still works out for tptb
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>>537668602
To be fair, some people did fall into these subcultures organically. I never saw metalhead shit pushed by a clothing brand or seen at the mall. Those guys were always outcasts and had a subculture, even if they did all look the same. The only corporate string I could think that would be tied to them would be a record label, but I almost saw zero metal stuff in media or mainstream fashion unless it was to deliberately mock them.

Ironically, punk was appreciated more in the mainstream.
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Mavericks have been made extinct.
Simple as that.
You can't break away from the norm without a maverick and they are no more.
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>>537662313
"Counter culture" is the manufacturing of fake problems when you have no real problems. Take a deep look back at counter culture and realize it was only ever engaged in by the Middle Class.
High class gets policed to shit by helicopter parents, or hidden away by them if they turn into druggie embarrassments.
Low class have actual problems and are too busy engaging in Counter Culture.
High-trust societies are fading away (a sign of vanishing whiteness) and the Middle Class is shrinking (a sign of economic destitution), so naturally there's not enough surplus bored white kids with nothing real to complain about, and therefore there's no Counter Culture
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>>537668676
>>537668687
Even the weirdos where I live are gone. You may see a few chronically online trannies once a year, but everyone cringes at them, even the most liberal bitch with a dyke haircut. Even Antifa crust punks have ceased to exist. Right now, regardless of ideology, everyone’s just a neutered husk.

However, a cultural revolution may happen soon, and I don’t mean some lefty commie shit. Like a renaissance. Take jeans for example. Millennials were obsessed with skinny jeans. Zoomers revived baggy jeans with a slight adjustment. What would be the next? Bell bottoms from the 1970s? The hybrid between both?
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>My degeneracy was better than your degeneracy kids

Reactionaries are living arguments against free speech and democracy
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>>537662448
fpbp, basically current civilization ended with millennials, we're just in the slow process of dying now
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>>537662313
most counter culture was fake and just made up to sell you shit
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>>537669241
how were goth girls degenerate
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>>537662550
the most pro system people ever
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>>537662313
It’s the capitalist trick. Turning counter culture into something you buy off a shelf
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>>537662313
sybau cuck
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>>537662313
The counterculture is alive and well among techie bitcoiners. No one else is fucking the man
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>>537672107
bitcoiners are tied to the system they have to be able to cash out to usd
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>>537662313
Music died with napster in 2001. There is no such thing as counter-culture anymore. Plain and simple.
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>>537673951
This is truer than most will admit and they traded this freedom for soundcloud “rappers”
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>>537670599
horse girls aren't a counterculture
>>537672107
You can't make much with bitcoin it's been shit since November and no altcoins are doing anything. What is there to even talk about regarding it anymore?
>>537673951
with the telecommunications act of 1996*
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>>537665973
I read this post exactly like this
>Hon hon hon, look at le pretentious chuddite he does not pense he is le negger
And it made me laugh
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>>537662313
It was always fake and gay
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>>537662459
>Wearing hot topic shirts was not counter culture.
I'll expand on this, im 40 years old, all my friends wore this stuff. There is a place called a "mall." It's a place that has a bunch of stores. Teens used to hang out there and play arcade/3d games and what not. There is a store in this mall called "hot topic" that sells what is popular at the time. This is where you get the "goth" supplies. They also sold other popular stuff like eminem and other hiphop crap.

So basically, it's the cool kids who parents drop them off at the mall who pick up this stuff.
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>>537662313
Your “counterculture” was consumerist slop.
Zoomies have it too, they just don’t want to buy the same garbage that you fell for.
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It doesn't help that every generation before us is filled with losers and faggots that allowed mass replacement from the third world, and that includes every single person in this thread. I see crack addicts at the bus stop blasting death metal, and all that proves to me is that your counterculture millennial trash has no place in civilized society.
>>537662941
If you can solve even the simplest of mathematical proofs you'll impress me.
>>537677661
You pretentious millennial faggot.
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>>537662313
Death of counter culture isn't a thing. You just look at what is being done and do the opposite. Right now it is get away from technology grow food stop buying anything that has to be replaced in a year get married and have white children and raise them to hate Jews and modernity. Boom, countercultural
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>>537662449
>>537662736
>>537662787
All of these basically
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>>537678510
>You pretentious millennial faggot.
and yet, I am more beneficial to society than you. Eat shit and die, newfag.
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>>537670599
The jew-fro really sticks out.
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>>537662313
Counterculture is not having tats, not using social media and not listening to mumble rap from YT.
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>>537662313
Gen Z is the most soulless generation to exist so far. They cringe at the thought of being different, and are desperate for approval. You can see this in their hyper-puritanism, where every minor social discrepancy is punished. Particular example that comes to mind is an age gap of 3 or more years between a couple.
Millennials have this sarcastic, self-deprecating way of admitting they're immature, but Gen Z infantilize themselves and decry that somebody who is 24 is just an innocent child.
Also, they cannot even figure out ways around basic problems, let alone find a way to fight the mainstream. This is why their forms of creepy pasta involve punishments for breaking the rules. To then, an error screen chiding you for piracy is heart stopping when compared to some undead boy rising up from a lake to kill you.

Tl;dr, zoomers are dull.
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>>537677661
>There is a place called a "mall."
This is the new counterculture at the mall
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>>537662313
counter culture was a response to the monoculture. the monoculture is now dead, killed over decades by counter cultures legacy and the internet, therefore no need for a counter culture, as there are multiple alternative cultures to choose from.
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>>537662313
You are just too old simply don’t get it. That is the whole point.
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>>537662313
theres a minimum IQ you need to suppose among your peers to keep a counter-culture going
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>>537662313
You need a culture to have a counterculture.
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>>537662448
The countercultures have also completed their purpose. Which is to destroy the old culture.
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everything got commodified and marketed to you so people adopt personalities and cultures off-the-rack ... nothing organic anymore with all the projection of an online presence that then becomes a feedback loop one has to live up to ... this leads to blandness and slop
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>>537662313
There is no culture to counter.
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Counterculture died with the death of easy and affordable pussy.
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>>537672107
how many people are in your polycule? have you pinned the weasel?
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>>537662313
I'm surprised by the lack of White music these days? It's like after 2003-4, all mainstream music was niggers or nigger music
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>>537681747
>You can see this in their hyper-puritanism
100%

where back then it might take weeks or months for the hyper-order to kick in as it moves from town to town, these kids just look at the same thing at the same time, and the mass hyper-order kicks in. then they walk outside and they all look the same. it's rather eerie, like the creative spark of america was snuffed out.
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>>537662313
>nowhere to be found among Gen Z
doing what the incels and /pol/fags were doing here over a decade ago is unfortunately the fucking counterculture. unfortunate but it's true.

>>537662941
>they can't read or write in great numbers
go outside

>>537662984
>from memes to le ebin maymays
"le ebin maymays" was way before my time. Nearly 20 years ago.

>>537663960
>broccoli heads
>counter culture
fuck off
but yes trannies are counter culture by technicality but it's fucking shameful.
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>>537662313
The "counterculture" was in retrospect a Jewish push to deconstruct the old order of white European Christian society. Now they've already succeeded.

It was basically this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_march_through_the_institutions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metapolitics
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>>537665658
this is probably a potential counter culture of the future in all honesty.

>>537667372
>They don't have a personality or even free-will to develop culture let alone counter-culture
I tried and failed. Can't speak for anyone else.

>>537668676
>What culture are they supposed to counter?
In an ideal world we would've organised and countered the commentary youtube channels, and the tranny shit that our generation pumped out but that's probably Gen Alpha's job now.


>>537668997
Mavericks are atomized. They aren't extinct.
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>>537681747
>This is why their forms of creepy pasta involve punishments for breaking the rules.
Anti Piracy screens are a real thing in Video Games. People make fake ones that don't exist in the games they are doing them for. Fuck off. We could talk about The Spongebob Resignation Incident or not? Idfk

>but Gen Z infantilize themselves and decry that somebody who is 24 is just an innocent child.
Or you can just be one of the people who just don't do that. Fucking simple.

>>537686043
You've ended it too early. Late 2010s was when that started to kick in.
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>>537662313
Counter culture is country music now. No one listens to niggers anymore unless youre a kike.
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>>537686895
>The Spongebob Resignation Incident
nevermind that was written in 2009
it was just a resurgence
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>>537686850
It actually failed then because country is the most popular genre.
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>>537662313
all thos esubcultures were behavioral mass-expermients
dont believe in behavioral mass experiments ? watch the documentary overgames by lutz dammbeck its on the internet archive dubbed in several languages
there is also another one but i cant get the name right now
basically during the 80s and 90s new age capitalists used marketing concepts to find out what kind of behavioral programming makes the best consumer / where is the most profit to be made so that gets seeded
of course they build on the foundations that protoglowniggers seeded
even j edgar hoover understood this kind of marketing when he comodified the "g-man" in/with "superhero comics"
this kind of mass manipulation / advertising was used to create the beatniks, rockers, punks, skinheads, hippies, technoheads, etc.
all subjects to market analysis
when the corporations found out that a subculture would not be profitable enough it was dropped in favor of another one
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>>537662313
would every single one of those girls
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>>537663012
RETVRN
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>>537663674
Thats kike culture, kike
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>>537686591
Most young people say playing music or traveling is a waste. Earn money is more important.
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>>537662313
I find counter culture cringe and fake. I know perfectly normal poeple that listen to metal but its just music. Dressing like some retarded member of some drugie band owned by a jew and having that as central part of your identity is pathetic.
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>>537686923
if it is industrialised it is always slop
doesnt matter if the gig is looking like a "country" musician or a "ghetto" musician
real counterculture in this sense is what street musicians do, on location, live, raw, music for the sake of music, you can hear it where it is being made, sure even they are slopping out by canning their own goods so there is a good direct way for the supporter to get something in return beyond the live experience, instead of "just" tipping into the musicians hat.
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>>537662643
yeah, nigger emulation is a huge problem with gen z. they really truly do idolize and worship niggers
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>>537686043
Metal music has always been for whites, just as rap as been for niggers. Being white isn't cool anymore though, which is why so many white girls under 25 have bought into the nigger scene, and they're all cooked. They don't even like straight up european techno anymore, unless some dumbass nigger feeds them crystal meth.
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>>537662313
They're pretty conformist from passing observation
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>>537687197
>Dressing like some retarded member of some drugie band owned by a jew and having that as central part of your identity is a good way to filter out and avoid obsessed normie cattle.
based
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>>537662313
Counter Culture is a White society inspired thing. When you dont have any White societies, you dont really have any real counter cultures, you have different tribes or religions then.
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>>537686923
it's not you doofus. niggers got their music run into the ground by kikes.
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>>537662313
Zoomers realized it was all fake and gay and cooked up by the CIA.
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>>537662313
What was boomer counterculture? Jewish movies? Biker gangs? Boomers are very pro-The Man. Or would this be something dead like the KKK? Even then the KKK is officially absorbed into the Democrat party, so you can freely be a racist with them so long as you submit to your Jewish overlords.

Gen X and Millennials got their "counterculture" manufactured for them by globohomo. Punk, grunge, metal, goth, etc. all the same shite pushed out by Hot Topic and friends.

I guess the sexual revolution plus hippy shit would be an actual counter-culture, but now that IS the dominant culture - fuck whomever, get high, complain about climate change. All standard lefty shit.

The only way to be counter-culture in Modern America is to be pro-patriarchy and antizionist, and no one is brave enough to do that outside some fringe groups.
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>>537678510
your entire generation is losers and faggots, you pretentious jewish bitch
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>>537687414
Zoomies can read this and own their geriatric hippie grandparents:

https://archive.org/details/weird-scenes-inside-the-canyon
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>>537662550
When EVERY. SINGLE. GLOBOHOMO COMPANY posts their flag on twitter, it's not counter-culture, it's THE CULTURE. Remember it was a hate crime to step on their rainbow flag or harm it in any way. Meanwhile the American flag was free to get burned or used as toilet paper. Safe to say Tranny Rights >>>>>>>>>>>>>> American Rights.

Trannies make up all their shit and dismiss legit grievances against them because they are Jews spiritually (Jews birthed them).
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>>537662313
They had communities based on media consumption preference (music).

We have communities based on media consumption preferences (video games).

The actual problem is everyone has no time or energy or money to go outside socially. And internet is a distraction that makes it even harder.
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>>537662313
Kinda funny to live in the boiling point to a revolution. Whether it takes 5, or 10, or 20 so years. I am not sure if this new revolution will actually be a violent uprooting of our overlords and a time of brief prosperity from genuinely passionate leaders (before their dinasties become jewed spiritually), or if it'll just be a slow, yet steady, repression of the current world order until we are at the point you can say nigger out in public and no one bats an eye.
I wonder how things will be in 90 years, once this revolution cools down and becomes the new norm. Will they push for leftist stuff again? More radical things and saying the older leaders are a bunch of nigger-loving faggots? Another political overturn into something like neo-feudalism? The western world being plunged into forever wars like the days of yore when whatever super power kicks the bucket and supply lines break?
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I haven't been in Germany for 7 years. When I returned I found a bunch of punks chilling in hammocks in a beautiful garden. 2 days there I had already pussy.

The fun thing about counterculture is that we don't participate in your culture. You don't look for us you don't see us. We don't come to your office or basement. It's parallel societies now. Small bubbles. You live in a bubble where you believe 4chan memes trump into office.
It's hilarious how far away from reality this place has drifted.
Once a place where anarchists organized bankruns and ddosed visa and Mastercard now conformist neo fascist bootlickers.
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>>537662313
>millennials thought they were counter culture when in reality it was pedalled by megacorps
No you're the same you fucking faggot.
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>>537663404
based
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>>537662313
That's one thing i find strange about younger gens. Just how much they go along with what they're taught instead of pushing back against anything.

t. gen x
>>537662550
Trannies are precisely what kids should be pushing back against.
They are taught about that shit in school, and they just go along with it. They are taught that gender is fluid and instead of saying "hang on mate, that's fucking bullshit and goes against biological facts" they just run out and cut their dicks off immediately.
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>>537662313
>What happened to counterculture?
autism and trannyism. every single "counter culture" group, be them punks, goths, whatever, they've all become safe spaces for autistics looking for places to belong and grooming circles for sexual deviance because their progressive nature has made judging people for being weird against their law, which means you can just kind of be a degenerate however you like while hiding behind your niche group for support.
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Social media is centralized ubercommodified and globohomo-controlled, worse than the 1950s-70s era of 'three networks' TV.
Human culture is Dead, the human race will no longer evolve except within technocracy prison.
Human beings no longer exist everyone under the age of 60 is a Brain Dead Algozombie.
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>>537662313
Gen Z lacks aggression. They are a generation of total fucking pussies. Those without hate and anger will never rebel.
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>>537690124
STFU you subhuman fat boomer NPC. Your generation literally makes Gen Z look educated and intelligent in comparison.
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>>537690275
A) Educated and intelligent
B) Gen z

Pick one
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>>537689971
>Trannies are precisely what kids should be pushing back against.
they are. these progressive teachers are having melties on r/teacher because timmie said trannies are fake & gay and 6 million seems too high.
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Troons and hair-dyed sjw's are the counter cultire now.
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>>537662313
I am beginning to believe the youth counterculture was an entirely Jewish creation. I cannot find anywhere in history that it was a thing until the 1950's America. I think it was a Jewish invention to destroy Western civilization, by destroying the generational line of wealth and knowledge passed down from generation to generation. They found a way to break that, by telling kids to "rebel" and showing them how "cool" it is.
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>>537691487
There was def the idea of youthful rebellion in society prior to 50s America. I think things like biker gangs originated in the 30s, street gangs and younger people doing things like fighting and smoking have been around prior to the 50s. I honestly think it just became more widespread in the 50s, but it was always present in one way or another.
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>>537691487
>be kikes
>notice the goyim doing something that isn't mainstream.
>something fun and authentic, with a small but rabid fanbase
>send in plants to figure it out and infultrate
>coopt scene
>capitalize on scene
>discard scene
>move on to next thing
in my life i grew up with skateboarding, hardcore and graffiti. all of them started out as generally white, blue collar past times and sprung up organically in pockets across the country. once kikes wanted to cash in on all three they became hollowed out shells of consooomerist slop, ie fake and gay.
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>>537692110
I thought graffiti is primarily niggerish, thats why graffiti pops up anytime blacks move into a neighborhood. And while you said the stuff you were into were generally White, do you think the people you knew who were into it were Right-leaning or Left-leaning?
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>>537692232
graffiti was coopted by niggers to build a mythology around rap but it's more white/hispanic/asian. all 3 subcultures are dirtybag cultures so low-mid income families, city and suburbs and i would say it fell right of center.
the problem today is there is no margin that separates dominant culture from subculture so there is nowhere to have the opposite opinion. you get an endless struggle session instead of exile but being marginalized isn't always bad. it means more freedom and less responsibility
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Erm. Dude. 4chan is modern counter culture
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>>537662313
They can't outvote their elders like the boomers could and have no money like the boomers did.

Even if 100% of them were "counterculture" it wouldn't amount to much.
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>>537662313
how is antifa and trannies not counter culture?
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>>537662313
I feel they've had many, from tradlarp to noticers
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>>537662449
wtf? what about white supremacy and fascism?
charlie kirk was assassinated by counter culture
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also groypers, incels, lookmaxxers.
you people are retarded.
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>>537692917
Literally every institutions openly supports progressivism in one way or another, leftists clearly control several of those institutions, and if you openly mock people like trannies you'll get your career and life completely destroyed. If it's essentially illegal to criticize you, then you aren't counterculture.
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>>537663865
kekw
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>>537662313
Gen Z counterculture is not participating in a system that's rigged against them.
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>>537662313
People stopped gatekeeping and it ruined everything.
It ruined countries.
It ruined music.
It ruined games.
It ruined the internet.
It's probably gonna ruin humanity in the end aswell.
Gatekeeping is a really important part of keeping something as it should be, unchanged and everlasting.
As soon as you allow even a single outsider in that bent even one small rule it's over.
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>>537662313
zoomniggers are afraid to death of leaving their rooms. Their only culture is eating tidepods after some jiggaboo tiktoker told them it was a good idea.
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>>537693064
yes but the republicans are in power and from the trannies' perspective they are fighting against a fascist regime, so they are anti-establishment and therefore counterculture.
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>>537690157
>>537690275
(You) are a Brain Dead Algozombie and so is every human under the age of 60 (most over 60 are zombies as well but for different reasons mostly pharmaceutical)
(You)'re cattle.
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>>537662448
Tiktok also sort of absorbs and digests everything. It's a cultural blender that reduces everything to gay dances and playing dress up.
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>>537693324
No that just means you are anti-government.
The current global kabal is leftist and owns almost everything, ((they)) are the culture. The US government is not the culture, if anything it's the biggest counter culture group that exists on the planet now.
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counterculture is for impoverished niggas
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>>537693447
>absorbs and digests everything
>a cultural blender that reduces everything
This is the main detrimental effect of *all* social media. Caricature-ing, and encapsulation, reduction of everything to lowest common denominator. In tiny nano-fragmented increments Corporations and intelligence agencies, technocrats love it
Totally destroyed the pre-2010s internet.
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>>537693475
the current globalist kabal is neoliberal not leftist retard
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>>537662313
Everything turns to shit in a fiat system.
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>>537677661
No, retard. Cool kids didn't buy their shit at hot topic. Cool kids were still wearing abercrombie and fitch because they were rich.
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>>537692064
Present in a "phase" way. Ever since the 50's it seems it is not just about exploring the world and finding out who you are, it is about overthrowing and rejecting everything your parents stand for.

>>537692110
Unfortunately for /pol/, Avril Lavigne is the perfect example of this. Her clothes are Day-1-worn from the mall, her wardrobe hot off the rack just for her rebel niche.
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There is no more culture to counter, only chaos and babylon
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>>537693993
I think the rise of vehicles like bikes and cars, the rise of radio, and the post war economic boom that made it all affordable to the mases is what lead to the increase in 'counterculture'. Some countercultures are natural and are pro-White I think, but others are most certainly created and pushed by jews.
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>>537694046
>chaos
It's a global technocracy controlled by central banks. Human culture doesn't exist 2026
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>>537692917
no they get mainstream funding and support
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>>537662313
>was any countercultures actually based
They learned trades, had white kids, started growing their own food, and work to isolate their local community from the banking system.

So, yes.
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>>537694353
What was the last white street gang?
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>>537662313
To have counter culture first you must have a dominant culture. There is no longer any dominant culture in the USA because the people are fractured by race and class. One houses culture may look wildly different from another house a block away.

Counterculture is exclusive to "healthy" countries.
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>>537693993
good or bad spotify has some good artists if you know where to look. good in a way that these artists can get themselves out there. bad b/c hebrew vultures will swoop in a sec if they blow up.
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>>537666859
My dad was a metalhead in the 90s and he is one of the most chad people I know
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Raspberry Pi promised "to democratize technology and empower individuals to explore.." Instead delivered expensive worthless shit scam (compared with buying old Intel Xeon or ESP32) for idiot nepo only. What to hack? Your dick obv
Apple phones, Android phones -> Locked down SOs Assembled integrated circuits -> Locked down hardware and drivers
Locked, monetized, and Palantir analyzed all your data on internet
Everyone filming, recording you with privacy-rape devices no consent even before you become sentient in the RL. What you said?? What you did? N-word?? B..Brooo
Locked education for nepos. And then, (JHI) Just Hire indians, buy the stock, eat the bug and chew TiO2
Gig economy and Hyperscalers. Infraestructure... for AI
¿Affordability? ¿Climate change? Nah
Trumpler vs Meth Biden for zio golem prez 2028. The left forbidden to do class warfare. The right cant turn on the ovens and whip slaves. Draw offer and keep it as it is. Ofc, others are lot worse (thank to US) after all

kktxbbCu in 4 years
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kikes will go extinct
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>>537662720
... So sang the vaxxie faggot who wore a mask because they told him to.
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>>537669176
Oh lords of high fashion, I beseech you; bring back loose fitting below-the-knee khaki cargo shorts with many pockets.
The more pockets, the better.
Yes, I'm talking about Chud shorts, you fucking faggot twinks.
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>>537662313
For there to be a counter culture there needs to be a culture



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