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The current right wing government wants to commercialise NZ conservation land because they can't figure out any other way to make money. They also want to introduce a tourist tax.

Have your say on this proposed bill here:

https://www3.parliament.nz/en/pb/sc/make-a-submission/document/54SCENV_SCF_BD7D0F89-D8CB-42F7-9C5F-08DEABEDA048/conservation-amendment-bill

More information on the bill:

https://www.wildernessmag.co.nz/what-is-the-conservation-amendment-bill/
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>>537691937
fuck new zealand hahahaha
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I don't give a fuck about anybody that does a cringe haka
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>>537691937
Since when has any government listened to public submissions lol. It's like when Redditors say they sent an email to their MP
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>>537693133
John Key backed down on mining after big protests. The current lot are more determined though.
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>>537691937
>the National party are filthy juden who make no beautiful things, but many clever ones, and as per usual can only seek to destroy that which is beautiful to gain only profit for themselves and suffering for all others
So, same thing that's been true since Muldoon? And half the country are still fucking retarded enough to keep voting for them?
National are nothing but slaves to banking jews, Labour are nothing but slaves to feminist jews.
Shits fucked
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>>537692749
Yeah well when Uran gets nukes and the more radicalised leadership figures they should drop them on the only country that's ever done it and you've rushed to the airport and are deciding where to go avoid the fallout for 3 months New Zealand might be the only option. And if the exhorbitant tourist tax happens, you'll have to pay extra. Then you'll say 'I wish I had filled out that submission form to axe that bill, but I thought it'd be a funny guy instead.'
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>>537694562
Since Lange, really. Muldoon wasn't a globohomo politician.
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>>537694498
John Key didn't give a shit about internet privacy with the GCSB Bill though lol
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>>537694562
Yes but the saddest story is looking around and seeing green grass hills everywhere that used to be forest with thousand year old trees everywhere. 90% of natural forest burnt away for industry. And this govt says, yeah about that ten percent, that should be developed too.
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>>537694498
Laughable.

There's no way they'll push this while they're trailing in the polls. They might be corporate puppets but they're also gutless faggots.
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Michael Laws reckons the right are going to throw the election. Laws himself is a rightoid talkback radio host, so I take his projection seriously.
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>>537694562
National just signed a big trade deal with India and that means even more Indians.
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>>537691937
Okay, how should I vote?
I don't care about the tourist tax because there is absolute no fucking threat in this multiverse that I would ever willing go to sheepshagger land.
But I also want the White people of NZ to be okay.
So what's the insider scoop here?
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>>537695147
You can fill out the submission form in that first link. It's not a race thing really.
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>>537695272
Yeah, but whats the right answer?
I want to vote for whatever is good for White people and bad for browns.
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>>537691937
I almost had an orgy with my ex wife and an elderly New Zealand couple. Not sure why it didn't happen because I was hammered but that shit would have been so cash
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NZ government can go fuck themselves, frankly, this goes for all governments. Not an anarchist btw, just enjoy telling governments to fuck off, alot. lol

Thank you for the opportunity, OP.
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>>537691937
>tourist tax
Australia is right there. Why would anyone go to NZ at all? It's already so ridiculously expensive to get there that it is half the cost of a 2 month trip. Tourists are pure free cash inflow, they should be sucking them off at the airport.
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>>537691937
Why are "CONSERVATIVES" such sell out Jew cock sucking retards? Serious question. We seriously need a Reform or AfD party.
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>>537695337
Maybe NZ First, but Winston hasn't done anything to reduce immigration while in cabinets of both major parties.
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>>537691937
Honestly its a good thing. Lots of land that you currently can't do anything with because of woke poofters in Wellington and fat retarded maoris on welfare screaming about land rights. Changing the rules to allow the private sector to turn nature into a productive asset is fucking based and mankind pilled. Rip out the minerals, suck out the oil, I don't give a fuck. I don't give a shit about a rare species of moth. Take your environmental impact assessments and shove them right up your fucking arse you cunts.
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>>537691937
Are you guys less or more obnoxious than Aussies?
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>>537691937
I'll take a look, no problem. Good thread. Love you guys.
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>>537692749
Hide your fucking flags at least, pricks.
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>>537691937
Well dumb nigger your fucking welfare state bullshit depends on infinite government money and they need it from somewhere.
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>>537695459
I don't want Chinese and Indian mining companies pillaging our national parks. You seriously think they are going to hire Kiwis lol, lmao even
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>>537695547
This.
It's going to be complete plunder for foreigners and a few boomers, just like everything else.
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>>537695547
There's not really any Kiwis left in this former country and now economic zone. I really don't give a fuck what the expatriate Kiwi community abroad think because they gave up on the country to live overseas or otherwise don't really have any meaningful stakes here. Something has to change and if that means turning a national park into an opencut gold mine and turning a council reserve into a medium density housing development so be it. This place is full of Chinese and Indians anyway so who gives a fuck anymore.
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>>537694872
who gives a shit about trees and wild life. everything should be a mega mart or a carpark to ensure our gdp keeps rising.
of you disagree, you are a commie or a leftists or something.
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>>537695439
Winston needs to be the dominant faction of a coalition. Not the minor party. There's simply not that much he can do from there. And because we don't have migrant stabbings and rapes all over the place, we are arriving at the need for an alternative to the two party system a lot later than other Western nations. Tbh, Winston is a bit long in the tooth now. BoomerMaxxed. "Muh China" shit is boring. I want a more focused protect NZ at every layer, and make it prosper type of guy.
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>>537695547
Yes the chingers were taking out all the fresh water underneath Canterbury and sending it to China but they were stopped through the courts by an LEFTIST activist group called AWA.
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Meanwhile your left wing government in power is extending pajeet family visas to address the rampant immigration
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>>537695817
I do wonder whether National will end up disappearing if they lose their election as they are torn between ACT and NZ First. Doubtful. But a man can dream.
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>>537695821
And, although they can be massive retards, the iwi actually do a lot to protect the land and environment. Anglo conservatives have always been trash. Boris Johnson literally flooded the UK with swarthoids. They can never find a good balance. ACT was responsible for cutting red tape on building dwellings on your own property. Which is good. But they are also responsible for policies that lead to cutting red tape related to land protection and immigration. Typical Anglo conservative. Two bad ideas for one good.
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>>537691937
why don't they tax all the billionaries that are building bunkers there?
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>>537696061
*emigration
Thank Albo as well, he is killing 2 countries at once
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>>537695821
>LEFTIST activist group called AWA.
The destruction of this country has been a group effort by right and left. Don't let them off the hook just because they were right like once or twice in forty years.
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>>537695817
Winston grew up as a boy when Nz was the per capita number 1 country in all ways. His whole life is him trying to get it back. Someone said I think Chris Trotter , he's a Muldoonist and that's pretty apt. NZ needs that harsh cut throat guy who actually gives a fuck, not a sellout Luxon or a SSRI woman. If a politician said let's exile the 501s to Campbell Island and deport the brown yellows I'd say now we're talking.
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>>537696110
Killing NZ would be a mercy at this point
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>>537696263
I wouldn't call Trotter a Muldoonist, just old-school Labour. He got kicked from Labour over Rogernomics and has had a nostalgic longing for the days when it took 6 weeks to connect a telephone and you needed permission to import foreign magazines lol
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>>537696222
It's the left organising against nature destruction every time, usually grassroots groups too, not politicians
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>>537696292
You don't deserve to get JEETED though
Ideally the maoris kill them and drive them off and then each other
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>>537696334
Still the only thing they are right about, as I said.
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>>537696331
I was saying I think it was Trotter who called Winston a Muldoonist. Trotter voted for Winston last time amazingly, he was so fed up with the Left's identity BS
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>>537691937
>The current right wing government
>>537691937
>New Zealand
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I'm voting for TOP
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>>537696454
Sorry, I misread what you meant. Yeah, I saw that. He gave a pretty good speech to the NZ First conference too.

Crazy for a man who once voted for the Alliance in the 1990's lol.
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>>537694778
No, but like Chavez he kept his model for a planned economy going far past its use by date thus making national look far better than they ever were by comparison
And now we have all the millennial and gen z farmers voting for them coz "that's who we've always voted for"
Fucking retardation

>>537695046
You should see and smell what my local supermarket is like these last couple years, god I hate them
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>>537696507
I'm thinking about voting TOP as well. The country is fucked anyway, may as well try and get free gibs
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>>537691937
What sort of people live on NZ? Are they white or have they been invaded?
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>>537696572
The country was 92% White in 1961 and was 56% at the last census, for perspective.
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>>537694872
I used to work on a farm on the road between Taupo and Reporoa. They call it The Green Desert coz its all converted forestry land. Sad shit.
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>>537696626
Same as Europe and Aussies then
grim
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>>537696540
Personally, I want to rape the landed gentry (boomers) in the ass with a land value tax. Economists love it, it actually promotes economic growth unlike most taxes, and it encourages more construction when we're in the middle of a housing crisis, so why the fuck not? Why are we taxing working people's personal income at 39% instead of the land-banking parasites passively soaking up value from a property bubble?

Shame it could never happen in TOP's first government; too unpopular because of homeowners' "line go up forever" delusional fantasy. I really hope they can get it done somewhere down the line though
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>>537696074
It's our lack of happenings which act as organic forms of accelerationism that puts us miles behind Europe, and even a bit behind Australia. We had the one Supermarket stabber that was meant to be deported. But that's unfortunately not enough. Europe, by contrast, racks up the events. Germany, for example, actually has to put bollards up to protect people from getting mowed down at street markets. These changes to your day to days life radicalise you. It's different in NZ. We organically don't like Jeets, like many other nations. But it's simply due to not fitting in with our culture and them being smelly porn-brained retards. Europe has both that, and the hatred that comes repeatedly being exposed to imported criminality and anti-social behaviours. Australia also had visible foreign issues that stick in the brain. When Abbos run amok in smaller Aussie towns, or if bogans do the same, you accept that as a problem your nation needs to take care of. When Niggers from Africa bring machetes to the mall, it stands out. Why the fuck are these Niggers here and who let them in? Same with that Lebanese tobacco war and gangland assassination shit. People process it as why the fuck are those Arab looking cunts here? We lack that. In some ways that's good, in other ways it's bad. Unfortunately, National will probably be around a lot longer than we would like due that factor.
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>>537696518
I was there three months ago. I can imagine the smell.

>>537696572
All the kids are brown.
All the White people are stupid boomers, druggies or trashy single moms.
Auckland is Jeeted AF.
Everyone in that city is money grubbing, on the dole or running some kind of scam.
They are building nigger hives everywhere for all the gibs monkeys they imported over the past 10 years since I was there before.
Nobody goes downtown at night because of the bums.
The Maori are half based half the time but they are still a bunch of retards who voted for all this shit just to fuck Whites and get a few more gibs.
The major parties compete over which tribe of parasites to pimp Whitey to.
It's ogre.
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who cares

central banks have enslaved everyone anyway

before the fall of rome the land monopolists and usurers had most of the money

usury is basically an IRL money glitch
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>>537695459
You do realize that you aren't actually going to get anything out of this "productive asset", right? The only people who will are the ones who own the companies that will strip-mine your country into a hellscape.
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>>537696572
Oh yeah, and everyone in Auckland is some kind of degenerate, especially the Whites
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>>537697283
You should commit MAID right now and go get shot by a female police officer you fucking cuck leaf faggot. How fucking dare you, a FUCKING LEAF, talk to me with that tone. I will fucking rake the shit out of you, you fucking leaf poof. What do you even know about "productive assets"? Fuck you. Go and choke on your timmymanjeet hortons you fucking son of a bitch.
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>>537691937
What you mean by commercializing conservation land? Timber logging or selling/leasing it off to investors in perpuity?
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>>537697422
At least I can watch Brenton Tarrant shoot up a mosque without going to jail
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>>537697429
Allowing private companies to operate a defined list of businesses. Initially things like nature reserves and eco resorts, which can be operated for profit. Government gets to derive tax revenue from it. Currently the land does nothing.
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>>537695364
Go on
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>>537697506
>Initially
So eventually everything will be bulldozed so some kike and his shareholders can make even more money.
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>>537696105
Having NZ as a bug out pad necessarily requires controlling the government, and terraforming the population (by turning them into degenerate subhumans who are easily controlled by money and vice)
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>>537695423
>were nothing like Americans
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>>537697494
Lol.
Owned.
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>>537697494
Wow. You're a real fucking hero buddy. You're so fucking tough. I'm pissing my pants because of you buddy, you fucking ladyboy.
>>537697595
Well what else can an agrarian economy do? NZ does nothing else except sell crops and dairy. Literal third world economy.
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>>537692045
Based
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>>537697684
>Wow. You're a real fucking hero buddy. You're so fucking tough. I'm pissing my pants because of you buddy, you fucking ladyboy.
Careful now anon, I might just decide to post a webm of the mosque shooting and then you'll go to jail for looking at this thread.
>Well what else can an agrarian economy do? NZ does nothing else except sell crops and dairy. Literal third world economy.
And how is the economic situation for the general populace improved by letting kikes rape their land? Hint: it isn't.
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>>537695364
That is not a orgy,that is swingers
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>>537697684
Since it's not your country anymore...
The poorer it is, the better, because the brown locusts will go elsewhere.
By preserving the parkland, you possibly save it for your own people (if you ever get your shit together), instead of letting the brown locusts consoom it.
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>>537697669
Americans forget that most Anglo nations absolutely adored the US and looked up to it. Particularly in the 80s and 90s, but tbf, even earlier. Greatly admired as heroes in WWII, and the soft power was already building strongly in the Western era. My late grandfather loved Westerns and John Wayne. People loved the American bravado and self-confidence. We looked to you as innovators that lived in the future. If someone was gifted in science (other than ag science), maths, business, or even the arts, they needed to go to America. The American distancing or at times hatred is a relatively new thing born in the 2000s. And, if we are honest, mostly self created by the Americans or more specifically the American elite. From importing the best of your culture that was highly relatable like the Western story. We relate because we are from frontier stock, too. To importing BLM nonsense and nonsensical Jew worship.
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>>537699227
Oh so much this.
I react the hearing an american accent the same as I react to seeing a jeet or a jew these days, just a pure disgust-threat response because I know that underneath anything else, there's still the Fuck-You-Got-Mine culture driving every decision.
Corporate japan can go in the same oubliette, but japanese artisans are the most based people ever, so they generally get the benefit of the doubt.
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>>537699691
We essentially are no different than the American who hates what America has become. Exhibiting pure disgust at the state of things. That doesn't mean they are Un-American traitors, they just hate where things are going. The difference for us is that aren't American, we don't live there. So we can distance ourselves totally. We got or own country to be disgusted with. The fact remains American influence and the love for Americana is easy to see here. I'm a rural fag, rodeos are an annual occurrence in the countryside. Kenworth trucks, although Aussie variants, are still greatly the king of the road here. You even get the off imported Pete. The Aussie ute lost out, and larger (but still slightly smaller) truck replaced it. Purely an American influence. We even have a ton of actual American pickups cruising around this country. You see them all the time. Like Australia, we have a classic car culture that celebrates both American and European classics. Every weekend you'll see them driving around or doing events. The classic kiwi buglaow style based on the Californian style. We imported art deco, too. I had an aunt that had a beautiful old art deco home. I absolutely love the home as a child. Mutts really don't seem to grasp that they actually blew up their own soft power dominance. It was the most retarded thing they ever did.
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>>537691937
should start arms manufacturing
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I dont care what happens in NZ
Figure it out Maori retards
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>>537701282
>*Trucks, *bungalow, *odd Pete
Forgive me. I'm being a phone posting retard
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>>537701282
Yeah I never understood how the rodeo culture got in here. I never got into it despite learning how to wrestle steers and heifers out of necessity, but everyone I knew who was into actual rodeo was either always injured in a new way every month or permanently crippled from it.
Met a few guys who'd had their whole skulls rebuilt as a result of bull riding.
Andy course every time you have a neighbour who raises longhorns, you'll always get a few fence jumpers and when calving comes around you now have to run down and fight little fucking monsters that are 90kg at 2 days old.
Profoundly negative feelings about that shit.
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>>537694562
labor are no different. The entire government is rotten to the core.
>one side screws us for 4 years on behalf of blackrock and imports a billion indians for "economic benefits"
>the other side screws us for 4 years on behalf of UN kike thinktanks and imports a billion indians for "diversity"

Not helped by the fact that the NZ people have goldfish memories, they perpetually think "man this current government sucks" and forget about the fact the other side was just as bad 4 years ago.
There is no winning in this dogshit system, much like every other western country.
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>>537701931
Fuckin oats. Remember when the greens were brand new and un-jewed and we actually had hope for a party that cared about human life AND economic viability?
Look at them now. Sad, sad shit.
Then we had TOPS which seemed so great until you actually read their tax policy which boiled down to "the gentry shall pay no taxes on the land their businesses occupy, and the shortfall will be paid by family homeowners".
Way to show your nose there, guys.
God I fucking hate this world.
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>>537695390
they need to make sure that the only foreigners coming in are indian. Apparently we have a major shortage of uber drivers and vape shops.

>>537695459
Yes I want Xing Tao Ching Chong Bing Bong Inc and Rakesh Puinlu DunatRedeem LLC to strip mine the entire country away into nothing. Think of how much the number on the line graph could go up if we turned all out cities into third world insect hives bro!

>>537696359
thew maoris are already outnumbered by the jeets and chinks

>>537696975
don't forget that "poor victim of racism and dometic abuse" who tried to shoot up a construction site in Auckland a couple years back. But yeah in general NZ is too chill, and while INndians are highly dislikeable in general, they don't rampantly stab and rape (at least while they're a minority) so the average naive kiwi doesn't hate them fast enough.
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>>537697684
why does the number need to go up? The average person's life is not improved in any way by "le gdp per capita" (shekels per goyim) going up.
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>>537691937
>inb4 it's all bought up by china
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>>537691937
>right wing gubbermint
>NZ
KEK
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>>537701883
Tbf, their frontier culture / spirit fits in well with ours. Their stories can easily be watched and related to our own. So, while we always retained our British heritage and cherished it deeply as our place of origin. It was also easy to accept American frontiersmans culture as kindred to our own. Taming wild far away lands is a shared heritage of Australians, Kiwis, Canadians, and Americans. I'm really not surprised rodeo found a home here. It did in the other Anglo frontier-lands, too.
>>537701931
>Goldfish memories
I really think it's more to do with not having the extreme events that force you to rock the boat out of desperation. When fringe parties rise, it also changes the way centrist parties behave. The EU recently passed strict deportation laws, but that only came about due to the rapid rise of proper right-wing parties. National would actually improve out of necessity if a proper right-wing party arose in NZ.
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>>537702438
>don't forget that "poor victim of racism and dometic abuse" who tried to shoot up a construction site in Auckland a couple years back. But yeah in general NZ is too chill, and while INndians are highly dislikeable in general, they don't rampantly stab and rape (at least while they're a minority) so the average naive kiwi doesn't hate them fast enough.
I think there is some unease, though. People not being able to find work, their children being unable to find part-time work or beginner jobs, the cost of everything soaring. The problem of course is they blame "de gubmint" and don't realise these jobs won't just magically appear if Labour gets back in because the job problem is fundamentally an immigration one. That realisation might take a few years yet, but it's coming.
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>>537703279
>driving in new Zealand in specific spots is like driving anywhere in the US
wooooooooooow
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>>537703324
In other words, people are staring to say "damn, there's something wrong here" but don't have the courage to admit the truth to themselves and say "yeah, it is immigration". White have been indoctrinated to subconsciously see "minorities" (an absurd term, given we aren't even a majority now- probably) as victims in basically every social context.
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>>537703396
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>>537691937
>Pristine lands in an area outside the nuclear range of the Samson Option.

Those lands will likely catch fire and then be sold at insignificant prices to some jew like they did in Patagonia.
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>>537703324
People are definitely getting sick of our politicians. It's just happening a lot slower due to missing the third-world-tier violence and criminality. Most of that comes via domestic folk. I actually believe if what Europe endured happened here, we would become a lot more violent and intolerant towards foreign Brownoids early on. Much faster than Europe did. The Murrays would be bashing them, too.
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>>537691937
Wow i recognize that exact place in the photo
That's Paturau on the top of the west coast
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>>537692045
third world country opinion disregarded
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>>537695459
if retards like you had your way the entire world would be walmart mcdoanlds parking lots and highways astroturfed shit. completely soulless and dull
>le based and jewpilled
kill yourself kike
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Tourist tax will actually lower the tourism, but that's a good thing for you guys.
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>>537691937
>current right wing government wants to commercialise NZ conservation land
check the early life section before you call them 'right wing' or 'left wing'
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>>537704472
The reason Whites in Europe are angry is because migrants are targetting poor White people because there isn't a minority buffer. If we had the same migration as Europe, it would be clustered in South Auckland and Hamilton, which are overwhelmingly Maori / Polynesian. Could you imagine? it would be a civil war between Maoris and the immigrants. They would be less tolerant of the bullshit because they aren't paralysed by enforced guilt.
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>>537708347
Most Jews in NZ are primarily in industry. Fisher and Paykel was created by Jews, the entire rail network in this country financed by a rich Jewish financier who became a PM in the 19th century. The Meyer family of course, also John Key.

My mother's first boss was Jewish and she won't tolerate even mild antisemitism because he was such a wonderful man to work for apparently.
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>>537691937
>help
Not until you take back all the meth head Maori cunts you dumped on us.
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>>537709222
Kek. It would be beautiful
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Between Tokyo and Auckland, probably going to Tokyo bros for next Vacation



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