as a european, i genuinely can't tell how much of the american "i need 2 jobs just to survive" stuff is real and how much is just whining.americans constantly talk about being broke, unable to afford rent, living paycheck to paycheck, etc. meanwhile they have some of the highest incomes in the world, much larger homes than europeans, bigger cars, more living space, and generally consume far more stuff.i only make a little over €2k a month but i live comfortably in helsinki. i pay my bills, live in a decent apartment, can afford hobbies and nights out, and still save a bit.so what's going on? are americans actually struggling that much, or is "barely getting by" in america just not being able to afford the lifestyle your parents had, a detached house, a new suv, eating out all the time, and a dozen subscriptions?from the outside, a lot of it sounds less like poverty and more like resentment over not being a part of the 0.1% rich elite.
>>537707048Some is probably performative because that is part of the Jewish culture. Just look at how performative mutts are with Israel and how they treat politics like sports.
>>537707353Nice VPN shill
>>537707048A tale of two cities and a great migration of people, wealth and business is happening. California and New York are falling. Texas, Florida and the south are rising
>>537707048Americans are obsessed with constantly spending and consuming. In the US, you have people that earn 150k a year in debt multiple times that.
>>537707729150k is not rich at all in New York or San Francisco. It is fairly wealthy in the heartland.
I work in an ER where the nurses are constantly picking up overtime with bonus pay. Their base pay is more than $70k a year, and with all the bonus incentives their hourly on pickup shifts is around $70. The other day 3 of them were talking about how they had over 20k in credit card debt and it was climbing. I'm in a lower paid position than them, only slightly older, and fully own my own house and car, no mortgage or car payment. I never work overtime either.Americans are profoundly retarded with finances and operate entirely on consume product, don't ask questions and consume next product. They'll work 70 hour weeks to consume product rather than learning to cook for themselves or not drinking, especially gen z and millennials.
Doesn't matter if you can't afford a home in & have been priced out of any decent area.
>>537707048Partially. Some of us are just really fucking bad with money. Gen X co-worker of mine has a bunch of subscriptions he forgets about and then whines if his hours get cut despite owning his own house, and getting more hours than the rest of us.Younger people however genuinely struggle to find good jobs that pay more than 20 an hour. Combined with rent that's probably 50% higher at least than in Europe, food prices that from my experience were also somewhere around twice as high, and you can start to see the issue.Hell when I lived in Vienna I was spending less than I do now in my shitty midwestern home town of 40k people.
>>537707048>i genuinely can't tell how much of the american "i need 2 jobs just to survive" stuff is realThey can't put things on social media that aren't real, anon.
>>537707820I'm taking about people in bumfuck nowhere states not people living in the middle of NYC.
>>537708001Nobody but some big wig local business owner makes more than 150K while living in the middle of nowhere. Middle of nowhere has no jobs.
>>537708030There's a doc on youtube about the American debt crisis. Guys working in construction in Texas oil field earning 150k but are in debt.
>>537707048It's primarily a geographic issue. If you're living in one of the big coastal cities then yeah, it's basically impossible to have anything resembling a normal life if you don't make at least 100k or pretty close to it. But if you're living in the Midwest or the south, that's really not the case. I'm in a metro area of a couple million people in the middle of the USA. Average rent here for a 1 bedroom apartment is 1100-1300 per month. I pay $850. I make about $25 per hour, and it works out for me. After insurance and 401k and taxes I take home about 2800 per month. Despite my college degree I got 15 years ago, I live a diminished life from that of my parents. That being said, they paid for my education, so I don't have loan repayments or any other debt. I have enough money to pay rent, spend on food and entertainment, and go out and get drinks when I wan while still saving a small amount. I'm in one of the lowest cost of living areas of the country. If I made my wage (50k annually) anywhere else, I would have a much shittier life. I genuinely have no idea how fast food workers in places like New York or California or Washington actually afford to live at all. I assume they're all living with roommates or just their parents
>>537707048Having been in both continents what I saw is about the same actual standard of living but Americans are the ones paying for the lack of general infrastructure so they see a big number in their bank accounts and get happy but realistically they'll live with the same amount of actual value as a European with half their income. Also add on top the fact that their culture is obsessed with being niggers and overspending and you get people that need 10 times the money, think everyone else is just dumb and still end up stuck in debt traps but every price is before tax so check mate europoors
>>537708081>$850 rentwtf where
>>537707048>is americans complaining about living costs just performative?No. The majority of Americans are literally living hand-to-mouth.
>>537708058Cityfag is retarded. Nebraska and Utah have the highest employment rates. How do you have towns without jobs? Heartland is dominating everything. Consumption culture is absolutely true. Credit cards are evil, they make all their money off interest, they are incentivized to drive you into debt, they target and directly advertise via mail susceptible people
>>537707048it's a mix of both, same as over here.shit has gotten way too expensive, especially compared to a few decades ago, because there are too many rent seekers injecting themselves everywhere and taking money without performing any labor or services of value in return.but the ones who have to work two jobs are also just retards in the ghetto who don't know how to handle money.
>>537708089>lack of general infrastructure What do you mean?
>>537707048Bureau of labor statistics has the numbers for you any time you want to look at them. 40% employment last I looked. That means median income is $0.
>>537707048Helsinki; you have socialized excellent health coverage. In America it depends on your job. A hospital bed, just the bed for one night alone is $3000.00. An aspirin with a dixie cup of water is $20.00. and so on. Americans are in desperate shape unless of course, they're wealthy. If you can't afford $65k for membership in a country club minimum then you're sort of teetering on the edge.
>>537708058I imagine the debt came first lol. Nobody works on an oil field unless they have a hardcore FIRE mentality, or are in dire straits from their own bad decisions.>>537708089As a man who has also lived both places you really hit it correctly.Still varies by place though. Going to have a vastly different experience in Paris vs Ljubliana, or Mobile Alabama vs New York City. But the generally rule of us making more money but having to spend more due to shoddily held up society is pretty accurate.
>>537707048Yes it is. They keep complaining all while spending hundreds on subscription services, 10$ coffee every morning, driving absolutely everywhere even if it's just 10 minute walk, paying hundreds for goyslop which is modern western culture like superheroes and ubuysoft games and upgrading their iphones every year.
>>537708437>spend more due to shoddily held up society Like party of the country having good free public schools and the other part you are forced to pay for private school for that privilege.
>>537708482Everyone 16 has had a car and been able to drive everywhere they want for the last 80 years. Now all of a sudden they can’t afford it and want “walkable cities” instead of asking why they are getting poorer
>>537708165>>$850 rent>wtf whereI live downtown in a non ghetto area. It's a 1 bedroom but pretty tiny, maybe around 700 square feet but it's oddly shaped so it feels bigger.I'll give you a hint, it's a world cup host city. I did find an exceptionally good deal though, my previous apartment was $1,050 per month (though it was larger), also downtown. To be fair I'm not being as frugal as I could be. There are some 1 bedroom apartments in the $600-$700 per month range but those are a couple blocks east of the old racial dividing line street and those ghetto areas are still high in crime. You can even get 2 bedroom stand alone houses for sometimes under $1000 a month total in rent there
>>537708634>last 80 yearsDon't care didn't ask. I don't live in the past I live here and now. History is fake and a jewish tool to keep goyim distracted.>instead of asking why they are getting poorerJews. Always and for any question the answer is the same. It's always jews.
>>537708482>hundreds on subscription services>paying hundreds for goyslopEvery single person I know torrents>10$ coffee every morningCNBC - Starbucks on Tuesday reported its sixth straight quarter of same-store sales declines.>driving absolutely everywhereMost Americans only travel to work and back.>upgrading their iphones every yearThe last person I know who got a phone upgrade had an iPhone 7, and traded it in for a free upgrade.If Europeans are so smart maybe they wouldn't base their perceptions of America from the complaints of a few retarded whores.
>>537708421>a hospital bedyou don’t seem to understand. Every patient getting their own room isn’t even a thing in the nhsIn this way, America’s public options of socialized healthcare such as Medicare and Medicaid are superior to the NHS. Of course we have the added freedom and availability of private healthcare options
>>537708726You are paki immigrant aren't you? Average mutt don't live the way you describe.
I make $2k a month and live comfy as fuck in Kraków. Americans just waste their money on slop like hi tech BBC dildo, PS5, star of David chain, Gta 6, vasectomy, food delivery of McDonalds etc so they can't afford living expenses.
>>537708634>want “walkable cities” instead of asking why they are getting poorerWhat do you do for work and why do you suppose you're getting poorer?
>>537707683this is pure fantasy. kek.
>>537708794You're right. The average American deposits their entire bank account into the fruitless defense Ukraine puts up against Russia.
>>537707048>from the outside, a lot of it sounds less like poverty and more like resentment over not being a part of the 0.1% rich elite.THAT'S EXACTLY IT AND YOU'RE LYING IF YOU DON'T THINK YOUR ATTITUDE WOULD CHANGE IF SOME MILLIONAIRE WITH E-THOT PARTIES AND SPORTS CARS AND PALLETS OF CHAMPAGNE AND BABY OIL MOVED IN NEXT DOOR TO YOU. YOU WOULD BE EXPOSED FOR THE POOR LIMP DICK EURO YOU ARE THINKING "JEEZ I DON'T HAVE ANY BABY OIL OR THOT PARTIES WHY IS MY LITTLE SISTER AND MOM GOING TO HIS OIL PARTIES I KIND OF WANT TO GO NOW"
>>537707048>>537708482However, the answer is 4chan withdrawal prevention center, formerly known as the psyops sommelier society. Certified & Designated by the Anons' Pattern Recognition Lab, Est. 2026. If you're getting tired of talking to same-shit-spam agitprop algo bots, you should just start building your own breakaway communities or if cba you can joinhttps://smp17.simplex.im/g#cM4KI1_rV4wtq3NywfJodpj4I_IRvuuhnqQy4ATe6Cg https://simplex.chat/downloads/It’s only going to get worse if you didn't know already. If you want actual coherent exchange of discussion - talk about conspiracy theories, history & geopolitics, esoteric metaphysics, high-finance, 'insider here' posts and some banters and shitpost memes allowed, places like here and img boards are no longer an isolated layer where you can laugh at normiefags. You're not watching them. You are being watched. Discord & Telegram are namefag apps and privacy nightmare. SimepleX has incognito mode, multi-profile mode that doens't require your phone number needed to join. Beware : this chat is post-populist : that means you agree to disagee-it was normal for people to have different opinion. Idpol is welcomed, but you can still joke. This is not advertisement. It's for people who would already be complaining about the board constantly so here I'm making your job easier jannies. Ad is for randoms just browsing by.
>>537708935Completely irrelevant. Zero arguments and transition into personal attack, which means you really are low iq paki immigrant.
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>>537709038lower and middle class wageslaves are migrating to cheaper states, it's not surprising. now compare the economic output of california and new york to "the south."
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>>537708081>>537707048>it's basically impossible to have anything resembling a normal life if you don't make at least 100k or pretty close to it.See the key here is that Americans have very high expectations for living. Eurocucks get a place with a roof and electricity (no AC) and enough money for bread and cheese and they're content.The American is like "what the fuck? There's no AC, no garbage disposal, this is some shitty ass tiny washing machine, the dryer doesn't even work, there's no garage for my car, what the fuck this isn't even a proper kitchen, holy fuck this fridge is made for fucking ants, there's not even a normal sized dishwasher and why the fuck is there no laundry room? I can't buy a proper sandwich, everything sold in supermarkets is baby sized but costs what some overpriced convenience store charges" blah blah.balh
>>537707048I don't know how people survive here on minimum wage. If you don't have at least an AA degree you're living like a fucking peasant.
>>537709033Don't chimp out over the truth. I referenced a CNBC article that backlinks to consumer habits studies and an infographic.
>>537709110Ok
>>537708572Not just between regions, but overall. You could compare say New England and the west coast to western europe, and the deep south to the balkans. But overall we have worse infrastructure when you compare the equivalent regions of Europe. This includes social supports as well as the physical infrastucture itself. They pay higher taxes and get a society with less stress basically.
>>537709301are you capable of engaging in discussion, or are you limited to blindly posting phone screenshots? i realize (by the phoneposting) that you likely never attended college, but come on -- this isn't a discussion in any sense of the word.
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>>537707683>Texas, Florida and the south arein mexican population
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>>537709356You literally said>now compare the economic output of california and new york to "the south.I could tell you, and you could say it was a lie. Which already happened. Or I could prove it to you
>>537708437My general impression was that they just spend too much money, buying trucks, jetskis, and all sorts of shit
>>537708935The US hasn't given a dollar to Ukraine in over a year and is actually making money from the war selling weopons to the EU.
>>537709308How is the infrastructure worse? What are the social supports that make life less stressful?
>>537708634>The average American one-way commuting distance has increased by roughly 128% to 300% from the earliest reconstructed statistics in 1960 to 2026I don't think "walkable cities" (they're just cities) are due to driving being expensive so much as urban driving sucking ass and you continually creating distance between where people live and where they work
>>537707353seething shitskin
>>537707881>They'll work 70 hour weeks to consume product rather than learning to cook for themselves or not drinking, especially gen z and millennials.I am tired of gen x retards spamming "cook ur own meals" like avocado toast>only a little olderYou're 50, tim.
>>537707048Most of the times they are being Jewed by somebody. That's why they are always running out of money. Many ways to do it.
>>537709616how old are you?
>>537708737We have private healthcare in the UK which is very high quality (I was lucky to have grown up with my parents' private cover) but it's significantly more affordable than in America. Even now I only go to private dentists to get anything done, obviously I have to pay unlike with the NHS but it's a very good level of care and the costs are more similar to French private healthcare, way lower than America. Americans really are being totally scammed by their healthcare and insurance companies and you have this idea that it's either accept the scam, or have dogshit healthcare like the NHS. This is a false dichotomy. If you go around Europe you will find that private healthcare is actually quite common, and it's much more nuanced than everything being socialised (a lot of French healthcare is actually private). It is possible to have private healthcare that isn't just a big jewish scam.
>>537708737I think I'd rather be on a ward than sat in a room watching shitty tv.
>>537707729So? Companies are often running on credit as long as they pay the fees. Its a retarded system but its not unusual
>>537709813Very. Answer the questions
Walking doesn't work places with weather. Trying that shit here would kill a lot of people. Zoning is fucking stupid though. Making it illegal to own property you do not live on would lead to it solving these problems.
>>537709976>Trying that shit here would kill a lot of peoplewhat color people?
>>537709571Yes that is the crux of it. It's a black-mentality where you have to spend more than you earn, keep up appearances, flex status through materialism. It's interesting that it's quite unique from the rest of the world. In most places if you drive around in a green Lambo it's not seen as high status, it's someone who is bad with money, likely an immigrant, a drug-dealer, someone without taste. High status here is more about your family background, education background, your accent and behaviours, owning real assets, I think it's just an old-money mentality.The American dream has turned into this sort of unaffordable material flexing. Stupid blingy watches. Unnecessarily large wood houses with AC running 24/7. They talk about fast food like it's a proper restaurant and they talk about eating goyslop products like it's proper grocery shopping. Just some observations as a European who spent some time over there.
Yea I see these Americans and Canadians always bitching online about how they only make 10k a month and it's barely enough to pay their 500 subscriptions and daily doordash bills. They can't even fathom living like a normal human being. No wonder they're being jeeted
There are no jobs and you are actively gatekept out of any jobs that do exist>>537708058constantly hear about this meme and then look them up and overtime is limited to like 10 hours and the pay is lowThat's another thing- the gaslighting about how "some dumbass picks things up and puts them down and makes 150k" those jobs don't actually exist, it's a lie.
>>537709950you're very old but asking questions that immediately reveal inexperience, so i can only assume you're a flyovercel who has never left his hometown. i'll direct you to youtube, and i want you to view videos of the NYC subway system (our most elaborate and heavily funded subway system) with that of a major western european city of your choice. which is cleaner and more reliable?
>>537707048its performative.a lot of these people live in obscenely expensive places like california or new york where if you arent making hundreds of thousands you cant live.they REFUSE to move to affordable places to live or take up jobs that make decent money.they all want to be WRITERS IN NEW YORK and they have to be RETAIL SALES AT NIGHT and complain how hard life is.when they could just pick up a random decent job in a small town and live comfortably.99% of the bitching you see is city faggots, ignore them. where i live its extremely easy to live with just a bit of work ethic and a normal job.
>>537710125Are you a based fly over state Murican?
>>537710125yeah, indiana. very based state. constitutional carry, not many niggers. low cost of living. can get anywhere from here easily.
>>537709859It was Obama that killed our affordability and drove up the price. The quality is in many ways higher with more availability, for example the USA has by far the most MRI machines per capita with shortest wait times and this is true across the board for all technologies, specialties and services.https://www.medicaleconomics.com/view/the-countries-with-the-most-mri-machinesThe giant hospital bills posted on reddit are before insurance adjustments, hospitals work out payment plans and ad-hoc insurance coverage and sponsorship for those without coverage, and there is no legal penalty for failure to pay.
>>537710247Isn't that the worst great lake state?
>>537707048Europeans are raised with discouragement.Americans are raised with encouragement.Understanding this explains a lot.
lots of people are choosing between food and medicine or food and rent. some people are bad with money, but cost of living is so high.
>>537710100>(our most elaborate and heavily funded subway system)So it’s not an example of paying more taxes and getting better social services. It proves that concept incorrectlyI would point you to the immigrant and minority population of New York, then I would point you to the school bus system in bumfuck Iowa where the children line up orderly everyday in front of their giant farmhouses in a bus everyone respects more than the emergency services that remains tidy because the children are not allowed food, drink or making a mess and the driver cleans it every day. It’s very sort of German in its efficiency if you stop taking it for granted and think about it
>>537710271nah indiana is actually really great. for some reason were regularly mentioned by trump so the secret is sort of getting out because lots of conservatives from cities are mass moving here lol.
>>537707683This is mostly correct. The U.S. has been importing semi-retarded, nearly unemployable brown people for decades. Even the ones born here simply can’t compete in a somewhat developed country. Most can’t handle the demands of jobs that pay a moderate income. Outside of a few exceptions, most of those jobs require at least some kind of cognitive ability that most browns simply don’t posses. So the incongruent stories OP hears are those between average white people and average non-whites. We hear stories of the latter more often than we did ten years ago because there are more of them.White people are fine, for the most part. >muh statesIt’s way more complicated than that. There are parts of every state you mentioned that are absolute shitholes and parts that are thriving.
>>537710271also, michigan is the WORST state in this area.tons of muslims and niggers, EVERYWHERE.also, the reason chicago keeps dying is because we supply guns to basically everywhere around us but we have EXTREMELY relaxed gunlaws. so our guncrime is extremely low everywhere except the capital city.however, everywhere around us with strict gunlaws have crazy guncrime... and we supply them for easy money. chicago and Cincinnati being two of them.
>>537707048At the rate my life is going I'll likely be homeless in a few years.
>>537707048The issue is that housing near job centers is skyrocketing. Sure, you can move to rural America and buy a cheap fixer-upper, but if there’s no work nearby, that doesn’t solve anything.I make a 100k a year, but I live in Massachusetts where houses average $1 million so i'm pretty much lower middle class
>>537710554nah, theres plenty of work in small towns and rural areas. its just niggers and their ilk arent capable of finding a niche or finding proper work.the average retard wants a easy mode retard safe desk job to collect sheckels. this thankfully relegates them to cities that are hellscapes.
>>537710460>It’s not an example of paying more taxes and getting better social services.this is a non-sequitur, totally irrelevant to the prompt and to my response.>It proves that concept incorrectlywhy do you make these expository remarks? you are truly unable to stay on topic, much less engage in discussion. what is your educational background and what do you do for work?
>>537710607>nah, theres plenty of work in small towns and rural areas.rural areas typically have higher unemployment rates than urban areas.
>>537710728unemployment rates are a funny categorical mess if you want to actual try to use that as any sort of benchmark.unemployment doesnt account for a lot of factors and specifically excludes others.if anything, 'unemployment rate' signifies people actually looking for and finding work. rather than giving up and living on welfare like cities.however, as I said before, the often less industrious struggle hence why its safe from niggers and spics. meanwhile all the nigs and spics in cities are lapping at the welfare doing nothing, not even contributing to unemployment statistics.but you already showed you are a bit lacking in the stats department lol
>>537710810>rather than giving up and living on welfare like cities.rural areas have considerably higher rates of welfare collection.https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2023/06/disability-rates-higher-in-rural-areas-than-urban-areas.html
>>537707048Europoorians have much lower standards of living that Americans. I had to move to Poland for personal reasons and make 7k EUR, which is around 5200 after taxes, and can only save around 1-1.5k per month, living very modestly compared to what I had back in the US.
>>537710654>>537709308>This includes social supports as well as the physical infrastucture itself. They pay higher taxes and get a society with less stress basically>what are the social supports that make life less stressful>how old are you>answer the questions>nyc subway sucksFeel free to click and follow back. That is the conversation. Sorry you can’t follow and project
>>537709976Zoning protects you from buying a home only for a "safe needle dispensary" to pop up next door, leading you to experience a home invasion on a monthly basis.
>>537709168Thise are not unreasonable expectations. We have had dramatically increasing productivity for generations. It is reasonable to expect increasing standard of living if it is ever-cheaper to produce all of these things. If you are stuck in the living standards of 70 years ago, you are being stolen from. We are too, but at least we know it and it makes us angry. It sounds like it is happening worse to Euros and they are content.
>>537710512Wanted to add that lifestyle inflation is an issue as well. I actually work with a guy who was an active roster NFL player for three years. That would average out to around $1,000,000 a year, yet this dumb motherfucker had to get an actual job. Lifestyle inflation killed it for him. People make more money and immediately spend it. Got a new job? Now you can afford a new car. Got a promotion? Move to a bigger house and take more expensive vacations. Big Christmas bonus? Bigger presents and stuff for the house. This is why you see videos of people with professional jobs claiming they “can’t afford to live” on $75k a year in rural Kentucky.
>>537710909Either you are retarded with money or a liar.5200Euro after taxes is over 20k PLN. It puts you in top 0.1% in Poland and you can do whatever the fuck you want with that money. Even considering you spend half of it monthly with the rest you can have a new car every year, apartment in a big city after 4 years. And that's with cash. If you go with credit you have at least 5mln capability for consumption.Food in Poland compared to US is far cheaper also we do not have tip culture nor niggers destroying your shit. So where is your money going? Of course nowhere because you are just liar.
>>537707048The two jobs thing is mostly middle class zoomers LARPing as poor. The people who actually work 2 jobs are rural whites who vote redMost of the paycheck to paycheck is a result of poor financial managment but mortgages are so high that house ownership is almost impossible forn young white working class men without connections.While "not buying avocado toast" won't earn them a house, it will make their lives easier but most normalfags are cattle that do not have the self regulation to keep their rampant consumerism in check.
>>537707048When I lived in the US I was dipping into my savings to pay rent, it drove my decision to emigrate.This was in a basement apartment. We had rats.Major city yeah, which drove the price up, but the alternative to a major city and the ridiculous rents there was a car I couldn't afford and gas I couldn't afford.
>>537707048A lot of americans I knew online just threw the rest of their paycheck out, they do not know what saving is. Oh 300$ left on the end of the month ? let me buy some stupid shit like skins in a game. Also sign car leases with the shittiest rates.
>>537710909What a fucking larp
Things are more expensive now than before but what's changed is people expect prices to never increase but their wages to keep going up.
>>537708634This is basically it- Americans are comparing themselves against the luxurious lives of Americans in the 50s-through-80s. We're just BECOMING Europoors slowly but surely, but our culture is not ready for that.
>>537712835People in the 50s lived in 800 sq ft hovels with no AC and kept their homes at 65 degrees in winter.
>>537712886>kept their homes at 65 degrees in winter...so?
>$80k to flip burgers at maccy dsit's performative. you have to be intentionally spastic to be poor in america
>>537710607I grew up in a small town in missouri.They suck ass. Miserable places to live and full of poverty. I'm not gonna work in a junkyard in Leeton and talk to the same 4 people for the rest of my life
>>537713460>talk to the same 4 peopleYeah some might become shopowners, healthcare professionals, and teachers because small towns need those too. You certainly wouldn’t want to have a tight knit community having pride in where you live and working to make it better
>>537707048Americans expect more than Europeans>Renting a shitty hovel from Mr. Goystein
This country really started going to Hell when some compassionate soul made the decision to shutter state mental asylums.But instead of shipping all the defective people to another country, like Cuba did, we just turned them loose on the streets and let them vote.This is America, and only those who are productive get to afford nice things.Those who don't work don't get nice things.Those who can't work?Well, we still have the prisons, at least.
>>537713460Have a little ambition, Anon.Leave Missouri, make something of yourself, then go back and make something of that miserable little town.
>>537713716That's a fantasy
>>537714083I'm the guy who lives in massachusetts. Just posting with a different Ip
>>537709033hohol defending his israeli style thievery geg
>>537714118Oh, well if you live in Massachusetts, you're basically fucked.I grew up there, and the cost of living was killing me, so I left.If you don't work in tech or medicine, you basically don't belong there anymore.
>>537714094It is so many small towns in the south including where I live.
>>537707048its very real
>>537714174I'm literally moving in a week or two because of that. There's just no way to build a life here
>>537707048They use credit cards willy nilly for convenience.They could use debit cards that they manage themselves, or one of those newer pin cards, but nooo they view their credit card balance as another wallet full of money they can use.That's the draw, another wallet of money, but they pay way the fuck more money to use it than the wallet is actually worth, and the credit cards are more than happy to let you sit in debt so they rig their interest rates and credit scores to make sure you keep paying every month.They way, they create a dependency relationship instead of simply selling you a service you don't need.It traps these gullible fools who thought in the moment and weren't looking ahead into a system where their monthly costs are exorbitantly higher than they otherwise would be, for no material gain in the end.
>>537707048The American whiners are just paid EU shills using proxies. EU is pulling out all stops trying to save its legitimacy in the view of it's own people. But it's already over. Europe is tanking and it's tanking all the way down.
>>537707353>>537707048Hey you fucking faggots, since 2020 inflation of prices is up 24%…everyone should be pissed…also are u indian?
>>537707048You don't have a tribe of jews sucking literally billions of finn-bucks out of your economy via their entangled web of finacial scams.
>>537714461The world cup is a disaster for the anti American narrative. I assume European media is hiding the street footage and infrastructure and all the Europeans who are blown away by the wealth
>>537707048There’s a reason we call you “Europoors” because as other anons pointed out a lot of you are comfortable basically living as paupers would in the US. I’m not talking about not being able to afford Doordash burgers every night or not having a giant SUV, I’m talking about eating rice and beans and walking/taking the bus. There’s no point in living in America if you’re forced to live like some Mexican or African. Our ancestors (up until the boomers) sacrificed so much for us to get a better standard of living, it is actually kind of our birthright, not entitlement. We used to be able to afford that higher standard of living, but we have been positively raped by inflation the last five or six years since the covid money printers turned on, and a certain orange retard’s tariffs jumped up the prices on almost everything a good 10% as well.Also unlike Europoors, we get very very little out of our tax money - most social services have ridiculously low thresholds before you get priced out of them. Before I even take my money home 25% of it gets clawed away for taxes, the. at the end of the year I pay several thousand more to keep up Shanequa’s food stamps and diaper funds for her bastard spawn
>>537707048It’s because of rent and insurance. Rents anywhere with high paying jobs are absurd and will eat into your income unless you’re willing to live around violent blacks. Also in America, insurance is a scam but you need it in order to have a car, go to a hospital etc. Health insurance in particular is completely unaffordable. If those two things were made affordable and brought under control people wouldn’t be struggling half as much.
>>537707729I see idiots living in 500,000 dollar homes, 1 million dollar homes, complaining they are broke. Like, sell your house and downgrade to an apartment. And maybe stop spending 100 dollars a day on junk food
>>537709096Millions of Jeets, boomers and spics. No wonder Floridians and Texans are always pissed
>>537707990Home owners whining they are broke are the worst. If you're claiming to be broke then sell your fucking house and downgrade to an apartment. It's mostly boomers and GenX people whining cause the economy isn't that great and they can't maintain their rich lifestyle. OP is right. Most Americans are irresponsible as fuck with money
>>537714921Floridians and Texans are infinitely happier than New Yorkers and Californians and much whiter
>>537714753Cry some more about the boomers you greedy parasite
>>537708310Inflation is a big part of it. It's whiny boomers and GenX people whining that they can't maintain their rich 1990s, 2000s lifestyle. No one is fucking broke. Anyone who owns a house is absolutely not broke and how dare them even claim to be when they can just sell their house and downsize to an apartment. Americans fucking suck and I'm ashamed to be one
>>537707048its just retards being retarded with moneyi have a house and car and single and making enough to live comfortably
>>537715004>And much whiterTop kek. I’ve been to Miami I’ve seen how brown it actually is down there. Practically mini-Colombia, you can’t even speak English in some areas it’s that bad. Likewise now with Texas getting mega-jeeted
>>537708482These idiots whining about being broke, most of them spend 100 dollars a day on junk food, coffee, etc. Bunch of whiny fucking faggots. Fuck America
>>537707048>A little over €2k a monthConverted to USD that's about $2.2k. I'll even give you a few extra and say $2.5k. For reference, I live in a city in the Midwest: the CHEAPEST option you have for rent and housing.>$600 goes away to rent if you are trying to live cheap>This is an apartment in the hood surrounded by niggers where everyone shares laundy utilities assuming you even get that.>$90 for electricity, water, and utilities>$100 for car insurance assuming you drive a junker>$50-100 for the cheapest health insurance>$100 for your 401k>$180 for your phone plan and Internet plan together. You're not getting cable, right?>$80 for gas (assuming you spend $40 at the pump every 2 weeks)>$120 for groceries, toothpaste, shampoo, soap, trash bags, etc (assuming you buy cheap and in bulk)That is about $1320 (with cheapest insurance) total with about $1180 remaining. Again, note this is in the niggerinfested hood so I hope to God you feel safe and have a gun. Wanna move somewhere better? That $1180 starts to drop real quick. Though if we go with the original $2.2k conversion that leaves you with $880.Could you live on $880-$1180 per month?
>>537708699I’m gonna call you out as a liar. A 750sqft 1 bed 1 bath in fucking Jacksonville Florida is $1,500 a month in rent and it’s basically section 8 housing, with homeless people around it and people getting shot in the head at gas stations past 10PMYou’re claiming rent prices that made sense 10 years ago.Name the city. If you won’t, it’s because it’s so small and devoid of jobs that only remote employees or slaves with there, hence your low rent.
>>537707048mutts have extreme income unequalitymost people there are dirt poor, unimaginable for average Europeanthe rest is very wealthy, memes come from this minority group
>>537714492At this point I just feel like people defending the system are traitors/enemies
>>537714835Keep voting Republican. You idiots voted for capitalost Republicans who have made life unaffordable. You get what you vote for. At least liberals would have given us free healthcare, lower immigration, and affordable housing. Republican ans boomer greed have destroyed America
>>537707881Bring back 90s cars
>>537715178You can't find $600 tent anywhere lmao. There are no apartments to even rent because towns fight to ensure they aren't built because they don't want niggers flooding their town. $1200 rent is the absolute minimum and that's for a shithole on a rural area. I've never seen a $600 apartment in the midwest even before covid.
>>537707048Americans live on credit. All those big houses and carse are because they were brainwashed into using lots of credit because: "It's good for the economy"Lots of them also need to pay a few hundred dollars a month in health insurance.The US is like 15th when it comes to median net wealth. Even the average Canadian is wealthier than the average mutt. You also need to remember that they have the billionaire class which heavily skews their average income numbers. It makes Americns look much richer than they actually are
>i only make a little over €2k a month but i live comfortably in helsinkiYou are starving at that pay. I was just in Helsinki and every middle class person can be seen rummaging through trash cans hoping to find one returnable bottle so they can buy some bread.Shithole country
>>537715034You forgot to put on a memeflag for your bait post, bro
>>537707881How many vacation days do they get in a year and do they get insurance and many other benefits from their employer?
>>537715332>At least liberals would have given us free healthcare, lower immigration, and affordable housing.You are a slave who needs a master
>>537715112Jacksonville is the largest city. Pensacola is closer to Indiana than it is to Florida. Florida is huge. Miami’s hispanic are a lot of high white Cubans and Miami is an extremely wealthy city.4 of the top 10 in America and the rest all in central europe and scandi. The graph really shows how far england and france have fallen, which is what Americans mostly mean and think of when they say “europe”. Western Europe is no longer on the world’s highest standard of living. They are a tier below. The first world is now the USA, central europe and scandinavia. By pure coincidence, countries with a high German and Nordic population
>>537708081What if you live in a small appartment just outside a coastal city? And just work few days a week fixing up outboards and selling fruit under the overpass? Would be great, no?
>>537715553Can you gen x newfags stop falling for the simplest bait?
>>537715573>Miami’s hispanic are a lot of high white Cubans Ah yes, the “white” Hispanics aka brown subhumans who commit tons of crime, rape kids, and deal drugs but are considered white because they tick a box off on the census kek.
>>537715408Again, I AM looking in the Midwest. Think Des Moines, Topeka, Omaha, Sioux Falls, etc. I can find a few shitboxes. Literally "*X City Apartments*" and set a price filter cap to $700. Though you are correct they are rare. >$1200 minimumEither you haven't looked or are straight up lying.Either way, yes, he would realistically be looking at having maybe $400-$600 EOM.
>>537715573*Pensacola is closer to Indiana than it is to MiamiLet me correct that. Florida is massive, extremely business friendly, no sales tax, has one of the wealthiest middle classes in the world and has climate and land to grow literally everything. Florida could exist on its own today as one of the world’s wealthiest countries. Florida on its own would kick England’s ass.
>>537707048Some Americans legitimately believe that the McMansion, SUV, endless subscriptions, etc. are necessities, and obviously these people are retarded. But that being said, housing and grocery costs have truly gotten out of hand over the last 10 years, and expecting us to live in a cardboard box in Buffuck, Nebraska with 5 roommates and just eat rice and beans is fucking stupid, and kikes parroting that meme belong in an oven. In 2016 I could buy a week of groceries for just over $100; now that exact same week of groceries costs $250. In the meantime, my housing costs have quadrupled, largely due to property taxes increasing to obscene levels. The housing shortage itself is being caused by the importation of tens of millions of subhuman shitskins from mexico, india, and china, driving down the supply. Add in the fact that my income has only increased about 10%, and it's completely understandable why many Americans feel like they're barely keeping their head above water.The silver lining is that now absolutely everybody knows it's the jews, even my NPC boomer father knows it. It'll be interesting to see what happens.
>>537715830What site are you using to find them?
>>537707048muricans are just tax cattle for jews, niggers, and illegals. thats most of western civilization now innit
>>537708935To be fair, its your proxywar and you fucked our gasline to puccia up.In that perspective, we’ve been pretty generous trading in our pensions for patriot missiles
>>537715697you can't find shit to rent for cheap anon. This country is the platonic ideal of a snake oil salesman Nd everything is bullshit. There are no restriction on big companies buying everything up and price raping the goyim like there are in actual countries.
>>537716013https://www.apartments.com/Again, search any of the cities I mentioned and set your price cap to $700.
>>537716126Ok but its the same expensive housing market here, only you guys have more room and options to move i guess
>>537716013>>537716133Example from Sioux Falls, South Dakota.>inb4 not $600As I said, those are rare. Still, roughly in the ballpark of what I said.
>>537716008And those same retarded Americans don't seem to realize that illegals aren't struggling with these problems at all. How many homeless illegals you see where you live? I've never seen any. Seen plenty of fucked up disenfranchised and homeless Americans though. It's just beyond insulting this is what it's come to, Americans having to plan for a shittier quality of life, move from where they live and eat bare bones shit just to make it. All this while every brown imaginable is flown in, given a refillable debit card and housing, oh and healthcare too. Why bother anymore. I gave up in 2022.
>>537710125I live in the NYC metro and these people are just financially retarded. They move here and instead of rent in a 2 family home for $2k and max like $250 in utilities during peak usage they live in a "luxury" shoebox one third the size with utilities bills in $600-$800 range during peak because everything is electric and they're not insulated at all. Not to mention they all have student loans they'll be paying forever but with all those degrees can't rub two braincells together to realize that their 90k before taxes is actually 80k but they won't budget for that lower number.
>>537707048>be me>american>go to jail overseas>get deported back to the US>have to choose my city>uhh... how about NYC?>move there>first day there find a room to rent>$800/month incl utilities>20 minutes from times square by subway>neighborhood is 3% black>dick around the first month, sightseeing and not really doing anything>decide to grind at work and try saving money>get a job $24/hr with temp agency>get another job $20/hr fry cook at the stadium>can call in or out whenever I want>everyone loves me because I'm the only competent person there>get another job, $21/hr cook for an event, lots of OT>make over $5k that month>over the course of 5 months gain more than $15k in savings>monthly expenses were $1200 a month>leave the US and go to the third world>buy/sell some stock options once or twice a month>get $2200 tax return>9 months and counting without work>net worth increased>effectively retired indefinitely off of 5 months of literal Wendy's fry cook
>>537715408>towns fight to ensure they aren't built because they don't want niggers flooding their townI will explain to you how this actually works: Local government gives building contracts and tax breaks to their buddies in the construction industry in exchange for campaign donations. The (((property developers))) then build some horrible, low-quality apartment complex with a mix of market-rate and low-income apartments. Nobody with a job can actually afford these market-rate apartments, but you know who can? Niggers on Section 8 housing. The building then fills up with niggers and spics on gibs, and the city gets more gibs from the federal government to deal with the increasing crime and poverty. And, of course, White people pay for it all, in more ways than one.
>>537714835Oh, another thing i forgot to mention is electricity and utility companies. In the U.S., these are run more like mafias than actual private businesses.
>>537716298>>neighborhood is 3% blackSure thing Paco
>>537716412Why lie about something so obvious? They are all regulated public utilities through the Public Utility Commission and earn statutory low rates of return
>>537707048whitey isn't poor enough for israel. They should be poorer. So long as can eat 1 serving or cockroach milk and cricket powder, it's enough. hell most of the poor whites have a bmi > 40, so they're not poor.
>>537716237>illegals aren't struggling with these problems at allThis is a really good point. In fact, nobody except White people is dealing with any of this shit, because Whites are de facto ineligible for gibs, except for single mothers with hideous niglets. >I gave up in 2022I would have given up long ago, but I have a family to take care of.
>>537716611I don't have a family and at this point don't think I ever will, I wouldn't want to raise a kid in whatever this shit heap of a world is now
>>537716237>How many homeless illegals you see where you live? I've never seen any. Seen plenty of fucked up disenfranchised and homeless Americans though.Zero and zero but I live in the rural south. My kids have never seen a homeless person, the oldest is 9. There are none in my town. We go to sporting events and entertainment and shopping and dining out of town in Georgia, Alabama and Florida, the beaches often in Florida and Alabama, medical appointments in Birmingham Alabama, they’ve been to Knoxville Tennessee and the mountains of Tennessee and North Carolina, Flagstaff Arizona, the Grand Canyon, one night in Dallas Texas. Still haven’t seen one though admittedly I drive around Atlanta and don’t stop there.
>>537716414>The racial makeup of the neighborhood was 31.4% (16,395) non-Hispanic White, 3.3% (1,716) African American, 25.1% (13,123) Asian, 1.2% (621) other races, 2.8% (1,466) two or more races, and 36.3% (18,957) Hispanic or Latino of any race.[2] About 49.6% of residents were born in a US state (37.7% in New York), 3% were born in Puerto Rico, U.S. Island areas, or born abroad to American parent(s), and 47.4% were foreign-born (more than New York City's overall foreign-born share of 36.5% and just below the 47.6% foreign-born share for Queens).
I have two useful science degrees, tons of skills and the only one I suck at is roofing etc (heights) and the only one I hate is painting.I love electro mechanical shit and there are no jobs for that. I cannot even get a 50k office job. Germanic American White Male, not a woman or jeet I guess.I live frugally as possible, still comfortable doing JewberEats delivery and have $800 in medical debt and lay $543 per month for health insurance, and two cars I fix myself.The job market sucks, and the unmerited win here. Most people either live beyond their means or are in medical debt.t 38 year old lifelong Chicago resident. It's third world status. The cheapest one bedroom you can get here is $1340 per month with half of the utilities. Jewmerica!I also split my time with a rural area, no jobs but no niggers, the cost of living is even worse, especially with no public transit.
>>537709571Definitely this, but the other half of us who are trying to be responsible and live well below our means, get in debt to pay the healthcare of niggers and jeets and hillbillies.
>>537716374This anon knows. I worked in construction as an electrician and worked a few of these jobs. The quality of those places is dirt cheap and I pity the poor bastard who has to fix the plumbing, wiring, etc in the future. No joke, the cycle is:>Yuppies from more expensive states buy these places because it's cheaper than elsewhere>Sec 8 niggers and other scum move into>The niggers terrorize the place>Asked real nice to stop. They don't because niggers>Eventually the niggers are forced to move out>They've trashed the place, as per usual with nigs, and the company runnin gthe place does the bare minimum>By this point a good amount of the yuppies have moved out>Nobody buys because they see niggers live on the complex/see the previous unit was owned by a nig>They sit vacant until another nig comes in>Basically trial and error until you get semi-civilized nigs
>>537716692im in TN, we have a huge homeless/junkie problem but you never see any homeless beaners anywhere. I've seen cops let them go multiple times while they are shit faced with no license or insurance, the over 10 grand they have on their fucking food stamp total. Many of them live in middle class homes now that no younger American has any fucking chance of ever owning. And all this was done specifically for them, because without direct help they are too fucking stupid to figure out such grifts, just like the somalis in Minnesota. Just shitty all around
>>537707048>how much real?>how much fake?If you don't have a GOOD job then you are relegated to a low quality of life unless you get a 2nd job>crappy 1st job can barely cover food and renting a crappy, small, apartment in the bad part of townSo if you want a higher quality of life you either need to get a better job (difficult), get a 2nd job, or start a business that makes more money (difficult).Lots of Americans have given up on moving up in life, so they spend what little money they have on doordash and other stupid shit
>>537716733>Germanic American White MaleI feel your pain. Fully Czech American White Male. No jobs unless I wanna be a sales nigger for the most obvious MLM.I'm gonna ask a guy I worked with to take me back as a sparky but I doubt he will say yes. I honestly think it's over and I'm just trying to enjoy the remainder of my days until the money runs out.
>>537716733>$800 in medical debt and lay $543 per month for health insurance, and two carsThis faggits IQ is in the 70s>>537716819If the city has enough pull the gentrification will be successful
>>537716930Memphis, Nashville?We saw Chattanooga also. And Gatlinburg, but that’s hillbilly disney world
>>537717022>If the city has enough pull the gentrification will be successfulSarcasm?
>>537707048>is americans complaining about living costs just performative?I'VE BEEN GOUGED!!
>>537717151The s. oys arent coming to gentrify Memphis but they did it to NYC alright
>>537707048It's fake. If you ask them about their finances, they will dodge and start talking about the Federal Minimum Wage of $7.25/hr. But this is overridden by State Minimum Wage of $16/hr in New York and California. And in actuality, $20/hr is the most common rate for unskilled labor, higher in metropolitan areas.It's just the strategy of Democrats to get votes. Talk about raising the Federal Minimum Wage, which changes nothing because of State Minimum Wages and will not improve anyone's lives, but they will just talk about it as if it accomplished something. It's all a larp, pretending someone is making $7.25/hr in the most expensive areas of NYC.
>>537709895>so?There is good debt and bad debt>company buys $100,000 equipment on creditAs long as that equipment increases revenue they can justify it>amerilard goes into debt because $150,000 salary doesn't buy "enough" plastic Chinese shit and junk foodBad debt
>>537717072Knoxville, not even that close to downtown really, but it all spreads out from there pretty much. It's become real shit, a few years ago big corpo came in and bought up most of the iconic restaurants/locations downtown. They've fucked up all the roads there, and began throwing up those hideous fucking hive apartments all over, the kind I guess that will house scum from other states and eventually the poor bastards that stick around there much longer. The speed and scope of how they've managed to absolutely buttfuck Tennessee, and especially where I live in just maybe 5-6 years is astonishing. Transplant faggots fleeing their failed states have basically turned our once affordable (not for awhile now) housing market upside fucking down. Most everyone that's from here feels pretty irate about it, and this coming on the heels of already having to deal with native niggers and the illegals that have flooded all of us. Not sure if there's a silver lining for us. It's just going to be ruined at this rate. Datacenters to come I'm sure.
>>537710125>they refuse jobs that pay moreNigger, no one is refusing jobs that pay more
its real if your previously cheap state was ATTACKED by niggerfornians, texniggers, nigger york refugees etc.ASll bitch faggot leftists running away from their feral niggers and jewconomiesthey completely rui9ned any cheap place with bitch nigger state refugees
>>537717508>And in actuality, $20/hr is the most common rate for unskilled laborBull SHIT anon, I know retail store managers that are the highest paid person in their building making 17.50 an hour. You are not making 20 per hour moving boxes.
>>537717611this is the template for any state that wasn't completely kiked and niggered this real estate scam and leftist/nigger distribution was a major goal of the hoaxvid scam.
>>537715237NTA but I'd guess Kansas City area for them. World cup city and very low cost of living for a city of its size. I went to school at KU (basically a suburb of Kansas City) and my rent for a 1bed apartment was $550 back in 2017. I live in a 2bed in Minneapolis today and I pay $1,750, which seems like quite a good deal to me. Florida is just going to be a lot more expensive no matter where you live there because boomers have fucked the real estate market buying vacation/retirement properties.
>>537707048In my experience dealing with the poor pretty much everything about being poor in America is performative. 90% of these people are in a completely avoidable situation. 90% of those people are in situations that are reversible. The reason that they don't change their situations has everything to do with themselves and nothing to do with anything outside of themselves.The average family of four living under the poverty line works about 16 hours a week on average. That's 4 hours per person per week. There is no such thing as "the working poor" in America. When you look at a number like that it's impossible to conclude that poverty is largely a choice. But it's a sensible choice for some people. Going to work is a drag. Sometimes it's easier to just live on public subsistence and take whatever you can get. It's an incredible irony the lengths people will go through, the tedious labor they're willing to do, to get every cent they can from a welfare office, while never stepping into an office to do actual work The most common reason for being in debt in the United States states is medical debt, but this has no impact on your credit rating, can be paid back at basically any rate you want, and it's highly unlikely that you would have to pay all of it. Poverty is a choice.
>>537707048>as a european, i genuinely can't tell how much of the american "i need 2 jobs just to survive" stuff is real and how much is just whining."A 2023 survey conducted by Payroll.org highlighted that 78% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck, a 6% increase from the previous year. In other words, more than three-quarters of Americans struggle to save or invest after paying for their monthly expenses.Similarly, a 2023 Forbes Advisor survey revealed that nearly 70% of respondents either identified as living paycheck to paycheck (40%) or—even more concerning—reported that their income doesn’t even cover their standard expenses (29%)." - https://archive.ph/0G3Tx"Roughly 111 million people — 50% of Americans with a credit card and 40% of the U.S. adult population — carry credit card debt" - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/record-share-americans-cant-pay-credit-card-bills/
>>537707048>they have some of the highest incomes in the world"While 100 million Americans have at least some medical debt, about 7.4% of U.S. residents experience catastrophic healthcare expenses annually, more than double the rate of any other developed nation. Here, medical debt is defined as experiencing problems paying or being unable to afford any medical bills in the past 12 months, including those for doctors, dentists, hospitals, therapists, medication, equipment, nursing home or home care. And the term catastrophic is defined as out-of-pocket spending exceeding 40% of a household’s income after basic necessities have been met. Further, estimates suggest that inability to afford costs of medical care contributes to at least 530,000 personal bankruptcy filings annually. Approximately two-thirds of personal bankruptcies in the U.S. are associated with medical expenses or illness-related loss of work." - https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshuacohen/2026/04/05/increasing-burdens-of-medical-debt-and-bankruptcy-are-uniquely-american/
>>537707048>generally consume far more stuff«A couple of years ago, Joseph Shrager, MD, professor of cardiothoracic surgery at Stanford School of Medicine, noticed a statistical anomaly in his practice. It seemed that patients were diagnosed with lung cancer at a surprisingly higher rate at 65 years old than, say, at 64 or 66.»«The study showed that insured cancer patients (lung, breast, colon, prostate) older than 65 are more likely to undergo surgical intervention, and they had lower five-year cancer-specific mortality rates than did their younger uninsured counterparts.»«“Collectively, these results demonstrate that Medicare eligibility, an event coincident with becoming 65 years old, is associated with a rise in early-stage cancer diagnoses and a resulting survival benefit,” the study concluded.» - [Jump in cancer diagnoses at 65 implies patients wait for Medicare, according to Stanford study (2021)](http://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2021/03/Cancer-diagnoses-implies-patients-wait-for-Medicare.html)
>1pbtidSHILL FARM THREAD
>>537707048>americans constantly talk about being broke, unable to afford rent, living paycheck to paycheck, etc."Katie Fitzgerald, Feeding America’s chief operating officer, said the network’s members are still seeing demand above pre-pandemic levels, although final numbers for this year’s first quarter aren’t yet available. Fitzgerald said she expects the food banks will collectively distribute the equivalent of 6 billion meals this year, about the same amount they gave away last year and far above the 4.2 billion meals given out in 2019.""Meals on Wheels programs that deliver food to homes were flooded with calls, while other programs also popped up to feed older adults nationwide. Meals on Wheels America said at the end of 2020 its branches nationwide were still serving on average 60% more seniors than before COVID-19." - [US hunger crisis persists, especially for kids, older adults (2021)](https://apnews.com/article/us-hunger-crisis-kids-older-adults-fce1aba64d777f4a0f2bbf18b15040c6)
>>537717899it's more apparent now than ever before because I'm seeing it and living it as it happens
>>537707048>so what's going on?«Breast milk samples from mothers in Seattle contain alarming levels of dangerous hormone-disrupting chemicals, including BPA, BPS, melamine, cyanuric acid, and triclosan, new peer-reviewed research has found.The chemicals present a serious risk to infants because they likely interfere with hormones that are critical to newborns’ proper development, and have been found to be harmful at very low levels of exposure. About 92% of 50 samples were contaminated with at least one of the anti-microbials or plasticizers for which researchers checked.The same milk samples had previously been found to contain potentially dangerous levels of PFAS “forever chemicals” and flame retardants, which are also endocrine disruptors.» - ["Dangerous hormone-disrupting chemicals found in US breast milk samples" (2026)](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jun/14/breast-milk-research-chemicals)
>>537718150That cashier makes more money than a doctor in Italy makes. Mutts can't cover their expenses because they budget $4k a month in funko pop subscriptions and donations to insurance kikes
>>537707048>as a european"We estimate that at least one PFAS could be detected in about 45% of US drinking-water samples." - ["Per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances (PFAS) in United States tapwater: Comparison of underserved private-well and public-supply exposures and associated health implications" (2023)](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160412023003069)
>>537707048>i genuinely can't tell"Through the Summer Food Service Program (SFSP), kids of all ages can get meals and snacks during the summer at no cost at schools, parks, and other neighborhood locations. SFSP may have a different name where you live, but the benefit is the same: nutritious meals for kids and teens in the summer when school is out.Every child aged 18 and under can enjoy no-cost summer meals. Some rural communities also offer meal pick-up or delivery. Eligible school-aged children may also receive Summer EBT Benefits." - https://www.fna.usda.gov/sfsp
>>537718042>impossible to NOT conclude poverty is a choiceI'll leave you with an anecdote. I had a friend who was getting evicted from his home because his mom stopped working and couldn't afford the rent. He got laid off from his job, so he couldn't help. It wasn't a great situation. He once said during a conversation "$500 is all it would take to get me out of this." So I gave him $500. I thought I'd be a generous friend for once, help somebody in need. He promised to pay me back though I never expected him to. Couple days later he's showing me this limited edition Godzilla DVD box set he got. The thing had to cost at least $300. >"Uh. You were supposed to use that on rent.">"Well no, I can use my money however I want."Lo and behold his mom and him got evicted from their home. I don't talk to him anymore. Every now and again I see him walking around town, looking about 50lbs fatter and 100% more miserable. I would say that I pity him, but his situation is literally his own doing. This is just one example I have of people doing shit like this. Fuck the poor.
>>537707048Mutts need this and that to survive. Car and some other shit.
>>537707048I'm not really sure either, Finnbro. I work with multiple people who work two jobs. One of them says she works 80 hours a week, but at the same time she doesn't do much apparently at either of them, mostly stands around complaining. I think it's just single moms who got preggers and have to raise one or more rugrats. As far as guys, they're probably living beyond their means and complaining about it if they work two jobs. On the other hand, low-income housing still costs a fortune in my area, most apartments are $1700/month, I found one cheaper but am just hoping my landlord doesn't die. Our economy is fucked and jews get all the money. We just bleed out and watch homeless people proliferate at this point.
>>537718288what do you want me to say? ive been quietly reading the responses from the americans who replied. i cant really offer much input since america only exists to me on TV.
>>537708699KC? Can confirm the cost of living in the Midwest is absurdly low. I live in Omaha and am able to afford a house and family on a single income of 73k with money to spare whereas before we both had to work just to make ends meet. Everyone is white and friendly. I moved here from a HCOL costal city and the disparity in the ability for average people to have a decent life is insane. Before my fellow cityfags inb4 about living in the sticks there is a million people in Omaha. It has basically any city amenity you want. Any decent sized Midwest city has enough for 99% of people and the people aren't as brain raped by zog shit so its easy to make friends.The cashier at the gas station down the street is able to own his own house which blew my mind when I first relocated.
>>537707353Browns never stop thinking about israel.
>>537717821>The average hourly wage for a retail store manager in the U.S. is between $21 and $37 per hour.wtf are you talking about you stupid liar. this is what i mean, libtards just lie about salaries trying to convince everyone that poor people exist that aren't just unemployed.
>>537717611>knoxvilleBack in 2019 I was saving up to move to Knoxville. A triplex could be bought for $200k.>fast forward to Covid + 2That same triplex was going for 400k>fast forward to Covid + 4That triplex is going for 550kI had to give up on Knoxville because it was clear that too many transplants had already beaten me to it.I was trying to flee gay Seattle politics, and wasn't going to bring even a whiff of liberalism with me
>>537718356>That cashier makes more money than a doctor in Italy makes.Far from it, Abdul.A doctor in Italy makes €60K-€110K/year, pre-tax, including one month of paid vacation: https://www.money.it/quanto-guadagna-medico-italia-tabella-stipendi-2025A McSlave in US makes $36K/year.Now compare the cost of living: https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/rankings_by_country.jsp
>>537718720>The cashier at the gas station down the street is able to own his own houseAbsolute fucking liar
>>537708058That’s because they have a $1400 monthly truck payment and child support/alimony to 2 women
>>537718896The Midwest is extremely cheap anon. All the COL complaints you hear are from coastal retards with fake email jobs who want to live in Manhattan or San Francisco. You could unironically afford picrel if you had a 20% downpayment and made $40k a year as a cashier
>>537719200Pic didn’t attach
>>537707048move to the US for a year, and you tell us.that is, if they dont give you preferential treatment because you're a foreigner.if you can pull off being perceived as a normal "natural born american", and receive the natural born american treatment, you'll be able to tell if its performative or not.
>>537718896idk about owning the house, but it's about the same as renting to just pay a mortgage.
>>537718896Not lying. Even just a few years ago there were plenty of houses in the shittier end of town for under 100k. You don't have to live around nigs either just white trash. My brother bought his a couple years back for like 75k and his mortgage is under a thousand dollars. His job is about as glamorous as a gas station attendant.
>>537718863"Medical resident (specialization training) €26,000–€30,000Newly hired hospital doctor €55,000–€70,000"My cashiers at the baseball stadium were clearing $60k a year in tips. They were making like $50+ an hr, especially the thots getting simp moneyA cashier with a baby strapped to her chest is probably making at least $40/hr if you include tips, even in rural flyover
>>537719286if you're white you have to be an obese drooling retard in a mobility scooter for people to know you're american
>>537720151Cashiers don't make tips. They start at like 16/hr in flyover, honestly peobably not much more in most places on the coasts, and universally work 39 hours a week or less so employers don't have to give them benefits. In the south they make ten bucks an hour. For the average person QOL in Europe is going to be much better than the US. If you are a professional making good money you'll probably like the US better.
>>537719200>>537719347>>537719524I live here and know for a fact cashier's in today's economy cannot afford a house.>he bought a house for 100k>he bought a house for 75kYou are such a fucking dipshit it's unreal. We're talking about MODERN prices, you dumb fucking nigger. Protip: For anyone moving to the Midwest the rednecks here are ass-backwords in their approach to thinking. NEVER expect them to be optimized and efficient.
>>537707998LOL
>>537718745Jews in Israel and America collect lots of Government Welfare from US Taxpayers.The Jews get "free" hospitals, universal health care, education, paternity and maternity leave, birth grants, monthly allowances, savings accounts, and special Jew police just for them. Their birth rate is higher than America's and that of all European countries, and America fights their wars for them. They are leeches living off the Goyim.
>>537707048A lot of people don't earn as hugh as the average since like 5 people make so much that they are throwing off the average. Look at median pay because it's closer to 32000 a year and that's not even enough for rent, then half the economy is illegal and under the table so they are not even making that.
Israel wouldn't exist if they didn't get US taxpayer money.The average American citizen can't afford groceries or rent, but they give trillions to this parasitic nation.50% of jewish families get housing benefit. US taxpayers paying for jewish people to live in private communities, complete with their own schools and emergency services.They literally take over public school boards and move all the funds for the public school into jewish private schools.There are entire towns in NJ/NY which consist of tens of thousands of Jews on welfare. The most welfare town in America is a Jewish town in NJ. Basically Jews here are on 2-3 various welfare programs, nobody else has that privilege, only the Jewish Mafia Satangogue types.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd17ZGaoZ58https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cubO0lhOMcsIsrael has been scamming the entire country for decades now.
>>537720737In NYC they can make $300+ per 5-6 hours shift because of tips. I was the cook making $20 an hour. They showed me themselves. And never gave me shit.
>>537707048I mean it all comes down where u live. I was renting in san antonio and then dallas and with my meagre $4k a month I could barely surviveI moved down to el salvador and $4k a month makes me one of the richest persons in el salvador
>>537721886>I was a fat retard in texas now I'm a fat retard two miles below texas :D
>>537722042Kek how about malaysia is $4k amonth enough to survive?
>>537707048It's because 1. American incomes are actually really low. 1/3rd of the US makes less than $15/hour (I'm one of them)2. It isn't material goods that are the expensive part of America. It's the fees and insurances and life maintenance crap that other countries don't have to deal with.3. Rent is very high for what you get.4. Most of America is colder than Europe despite lower latitudes (no oceanic influences for most of us)5. Cars. A car costs so fucking much, you don't fucking understand. It's way cheaper in Europe having a car. Your car insurance premiums per YEAR are what they cost in the US per MONTH.5. Taxes aren't really that much lower than Europeans' taxes. Even in le red states.6. American employers are some of the biggest scammers
>>537722670my rent is $215
>>537720737>They start at like 16/hr in flyoverHahaha. Nigger, we make like $12/hour. I originally started at $10/hour in 2023... Dollar Tree pays $9/hour starting.
>>537707048We aren't as buck-broken as europoors and have a rebellious nature against enslavement/servitude which is why we even exist as a country in the first place. We think "I can only afford ONE Ford F350 after my taxes!" as a form of oppression. Meanwhile Europoors can't even afford air conditioning and are perfectly content to live as good little goy slaves in the one bedroom moldy cuck apartment as they get ethnically replaced with migrant rape squads.
>>537721886I was figuring out that if I can scrap up $1000-$1200 per month to live in Peru with my girlfriend there (she's actually Peruvian), I can EASILY support both of us. Not requiring a car actually would make supporting a wife easier because then she could run errands or have a job herself without requiring a 2nd car or time-consuming, restricting schedule
>>537720737Maybe have higher aspirations than being a fucking cashier. That's a high school job. So basically if you are a loser who needs to leech off the hard work of others, Europe is better. No shit. It penalizes those with merit in favor of the pleb slave class. They brag about fast food jobs paying $18 equivilent an hour but don't mention engineers barely make any more than that as well.
>>537707048i made net something like 315k last year. I dont like to know because im so bad with it. I run a small remote business from my tiny beach house in Hawaii. i have a boat and a nice truck. lifes good but could always be better. dont care so much about cost of living, i get my fish myself.
>>537707048>i only make a little over €2k a monthThat's about how much rent costs.
>>537723398> Meanwhile Europoors can't even afford air conditioning Except they can. But you DO know that Europe has a milder climate than the US, right?? Picrelated. Berlin only gets up to 77F even in July. Here in my state, it gets up to 84 on average, and that's very mild in the US.
>make 20/hr>work 30 miles from home>$4.50/gal for gas>rent goes up every year, $1200/month for a 1 bedroom in cityYeah I'm thriving
>>537723595What's the business?
>>537707048i make 150k a year and save about 2000 to 3000 a month depending on how naby fun coupons i want to burn. i feel behind not because im broke but because my goal is to avoid jewish debt slavery in an increasingly uncertain economic environment. ive been debt free for 10 years and i wont be happy until i can plunk down 60% of a house's price without breaking a sweat - with tens of thousands in reserve. but homes are 50 to 100% more expensive than 5 years ago, groceries (food and otherwise) are twice the cost, everything there is fun to do is varying degrees of retarded expensive, and in spite of my career advancements i still feel one step away from getting shitcanned if the bottom line ain't cutting it. and i refuse to move in with a woman and split bills, so that makes this all the more precarious. tl;dr: i'm in the top 10% of earners but i feel nigger rich.
>>537723734I watched a video about a Norwegian couple's expenses. They had a SEASIDE apartment for $1400 per month. They broke down that they went out to eat like 2-3 times per week. And their grand total was $30K per year in cost for TWO people. NORWEGIANS MAKE MORE THAN US AND ONE OF "THE MOST EXPENSIVE EUROPEAN COUNTRIES" AND THEIR EXPENSES FOR A LUXURY LIFESTYLE COSTS LESS THAN FOR ONE PERSON IN THE US TO JUST SURVIVE.
>>537723730More europoors die of heat stroke on the average summer day than all American students have died of school shootings EVER.
There is a hard cap for (mostly) professionals in normal salaried positions between about 95k~135k. This is due to the fact that boomers in the work force are happy with their 135k senior mgmt salary since their major financial liabilities are paid off and their kids are out of the house. This creates a hard ceiling because no boomer will allow some 37 year old to make more than they do even though the younger person most likely has: young children, a mortgage, maybe student loans, maybe a car note, etc. At the other end you have infinity h1b1 dragging the salaries down due to their quasi professional slave status. Fwiw I’m an architect licensed in six states and have made it to a director level position. The last guy in my position who was shit apparently was a boomer making ~40% more than I do just due to his age and “seniority”.
>>537724037>I NEED TO TYPE IN CAPS LOCK BECAUSE I'M NOT YET REALIZING I'M A CAPITAL R RETARD WITH SEVERE SKILL ISSUES>>537723734carcucks are the biggest retards in all of the US. All 90%+ of the population or whatever it is
>>537723936Shut up faggot
>>537724296holy jealousy lmao
>>537724184Except I intentionally put it in caps lock to show how insane the cost of living in Europe is compared to the US.>>537724136Probably because they aren't used to very hot temperatures when a heat wave does it, because you know, what I just showed with how mild Euro climate is.
>>537724184Either drive for 20+ an hour or work at restaurant(not in this doordash/grubhub wagie dance world)Or work for less and be able to bike to work. Ideally I'd like to keep my pay and wfh every day. Ever since singlehandedly trump raised all the gas prices by hand, ive been wfh for 3 days a week. Feels good but I know they'll send me right back to office when they can
>>537724331Not everyone has nice things faggot bitch
>>537724551this is why billionaireniggers always win. sour grapes from the poors and ignorance from the PMCs.
>>537724433Except you're a fat retard and even if you went to Europe and moved next door to the jewtube couple you would conclude that cost of living in Europe is $100k+ minimum for one person "just to survive"
>>537724161Boomers have a lower cost of living than young people, yet they are most of the ones making $100K.
>>537707048>they have some of the highest incomes in the worldWe also have some of the highest prices in the world, plus we spend thousands per year for health insurance or go bankrupt if uninsured or underinsured. That alone kills your entire argument.
>>537724787>I'm a fat idiot>That alone kills your entire argument.Epic.
>>537723783making AI fix fucked up code
>>537724671>$100k+ minimum for one person "just to survive"Alright, let's see, let's look at estimated US cost of living for a young person:>$1200 per month for rent>$350 per month for food>$150 per month for car insurance >$200 per month for gas>$50 per month for car maintenance >$200 per month for car loan>$300 per month for student loans >$400 per month for all utilities >$2600/month, low-ball estimates, that's $31200 per year, for one person, bare minimum living
>>537725147domt forget phone and internet and a clothes budget (this shit doesnt past forever) and non-food groceries (paper towels, etc) and any form of pussy
>>537707048serious answer: i went from poverty (~14k/yr in a high CoL state) to middle class (50k in a middle CoL state) i think it's hard to understand the jump in quality of life if you've never experienced it. on the low end of income, everything is somehow MORE expensive, and i mean that literally. cars, shoes, healthcare. everything is literally more expensive as in costs you more money than it would if you were middle class.
>>537724637>this is why billionaireniggers always winThe economy is a 0-sum gain. For one person to be a billionaire in the US, there's others that have to slaughter animals for $9/hourIf everyone is a professional, there's no one to do the slaughtering or cleaning the toilets, etc.
>>537707048Some places are really expensive and full of niggers. We signal boost the complaints of these places so the people living there STAY THERE.
>>537725147bad faith argument if it's not even considering the state you live in. rent for $1200 is crazy high in one state, literally nonexistent in others
>>537725385most of my family is white trash. they waste their money on three huge things: buying everything in smaller higher-unit-cost quantities, gambling (scratchers, machines, everything), and drugs/alcohol. i was a poorfag for many years and i knew better to avoid these traps.
>>537723530Yeah and mostly in these latin countries, they treat foreigners as gods and as long as you have the money you can easily live in well off areas
>>537723936>>537724331>>537724637>shit baitThe thing that gave it away was $150k. The troll number is ALWAYS $120k-$150k. You gotta be smart enough to make it higher or lower. Look at >>537723595 He at least had a pic to make it semi-believable but gave it away with AI. Also, you immediately going for the YOU MAD BRO angle is autistic sperg at best.
>>537725562of course, that's how i got out of being poor + luck in finding a real career. i know plenty of people like that. but i also have family that just gets fucked over and over by medical bills. i know families that just have too many kids too young, also stupid of them to do but it's not like they can get out of it now. i know someone who's mom died and he just had to take care of his siblings or send them to foster care so he had to drop out of college. everyone has different circumstances
>>537725643you think people dont make 150k? lol dude i'm second poorest among my friend group. they got rich with businesses and crypto. im practically a serf among peers. i also started off behind them, to be fair.
>>537725385It's because it is. But I don't understand how you can even exist off of $14K/year, even if you were homeless. Van life costs about that to be honest, maybe a little less.>>537725506I just said low-ball estimates. But also, the median rent in the US for a 1 bedroom is $1400 per month.
>>537715697> A few days a week. Uh so what you don't have to pay rent or you don't have to eat food... Coz a few days a week would MAYBE cover your rent.
>>537725029Nothing but ad hominem because you have no argument. Well done.
>>537725766so you aren't american or you're retarded or something? reality doesn't work in over-reaching averages. you need to look at it state by state to get a real picture. $50k a year in arkansas is not the same as $50k in hawaii
>>537725737yeah man i dont mean to sound totally dismissive. most of my family just got a shit hand and either made too big of mistakes to unfuck themselves, or they werent motivated or smart enough. they think the hole they were born in is just how things are. medical bills usually destroy people in these situations. this country is in part built around keeping these peoples anger diverted at strawmen.
>>537707048Their cost of living is higher than in switzerland, while their wages are lower. Don't let the larpers and shills fool you, america is a jungle where countless people fall by the wayside every year because they can no longer afford basic survival.
>>537725912i completely agree. mainstream media wants everyone to point at everyone around them for their circumstances instead of rejecting inwards or looking at the systems that benefit from addiction, gambling, and other social ills.
>>537707048American quality of life is so much higher than everywhere else that we consider having to live like the rest of you to be an intolerable downgrade.
>>537725588A minimum wage worker in Peru can survive off of that salary or 95% almost despite being $310/month. For a minimum wage worker here, it's only 6x that amount and still you would only be able to afford the rent per month and maybe the food, everything else would be impossible.
>>537725643People do make money coding, little brother. I use AI as a tool but know how to do all the coding myself. the AI is just my magic screwdriver.
>>537725747I think that if i searched the archives for "150k" or "$150k" and could specifically tie it to anons talking about income I'd find more results than any other number. Again, it's always $120k-$150k.
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>>537726119to be fair ii rounded down a couple Gs and didnt include my bonus (bonuses arent guaranteed thus unworthy of reporting). 150 gets the point across in discussions about economic strata. are you just farming (you)s or do you really think 4chan isnt filled with middle aged guys who are doing alright?
>>537707048Americans do spend like morons, however things like food and rent have doubled in cost in the past decade, so the morons have more squeeze than before.
>>537725881>so you aren't american or you're retarded or something?I used MEDIAN. Also pic-related. Living wage according to MIT calculator in bumfuck Arkansas is still like $18/hour. The cashiers surely make $11/hour. And I am sure even any Amazon drivers there probably only make $18/hour
>>537725881>>537726421
>>537726347I think it's an observable pattern when the same numbers get thrown around. Some of you, maybe.
>>537707048>2k per month>enough to pay all bills, have fun, AND saveok, retard. my rent is 1500 per month and that is pretty cheap where i live. luckily i make rent in 1-2 days, but most people are not me.
>>537707048Americans love to fucking complain about shit. I know you Europoors have played GTA you should know more about our culture.
>>537707048@grok - what are programmer and medical doctor salaries in Finland?Now let's see America.There ya go. You can live well on one job in America - just don't be human garbage.
>>537726513im a bit skittish about getting too specific in public forums but for the record, i started off at 80k 9 years ago, to give you a look at my progression at this company. its called being a fieldnigger and learning how to absorb a retired guy's role and minimize the workload as much as possible.
>>537726513Even with a Master's degree, $150K is still 70th percentile in income
>>537707048idk
>>537726785We're definitely gonna find you and doxx you, the random ass male making ~$200k a year doing some basic bitch job in America.Gotta narrow it down from the other 20,000,000 guys who match your profile but we'll find you.
>>537715538No to all of that.
>>537726739>what are programmer and medical doctor salaries in Finland?>Everyone can/wants to be a doctor or programmer.Who is going to slaughter the animals, clean the toilets, transport your goods, pick the items from the warehouse, etc.? So you see that in the US, the most essential workers aren't paid enough to survive while in Finland they are, but Finnish doctors make much closer to Finnish janny wages.
>>537727034Now you know why latvia is a shithole.
>>537726195just fyi, 150k is basically poor here in Hawaii depending where you live. it can get you byin Honolulu for example, but usually still means you and a gf renting a room out of a big house with 4 other people. On the eastside, in a lot of places the median is like 250k like Maunawili. I can't believe how fucked the entire thing has gotten and you won't find someone who hates the system more than I do. I started out in trades. if my thing now fails I will just build houses and fix cars, things i actually enjoy doing. Anyway, I gotta get back to work. good luck boys. keep ya chin up.Christ is King. Aloha.
>>537707048Its a nuanced situation. Basically, most Americans really dont make that much. But we have an insanely outperforming top 10%.We used to have a much more equitable split of the spoils, so it seems like a massive decline to anyone outside the upper echelons of employeed work/succesful biz owners. Its also entitled whining in a way- Americans comparatively were way fucking richer in the past. All the middling people, families in terms of income are to higher living standards. They dont cut back on luxuries, because the US was so rich that many of these things weren't considered luxury.Tldr its both, plebs getting squeezed hard af, but they wont stop buying dumb shit and pretending they arent poor.
>>537725147>>$1200 per month for rent$800 in NYC/Seattle for own room>>$350 per month for food$300. Less than $10 a day>>$150 per month for car insurance0>>$200 per month for gas0>>$50 per month for car maintenance0>>$200 per month for car loan0>>$300 per month for student loans0>>$400 per month for all utilities$100>$1200, that's $14400 a year, for one person, in NYC
>>537727307The irony is that since Americans have to fork out shit tons of money for education, a lot of Americans aren't becoming doctors anymore because it's too much of a risk with the debt, so Rajeesh or Muhammad from a country with free/low cost education comes here as a doctor instead...
>>537707048America has the "k shaped" economy. If you have assets(real estate) and stocks, you are flush with cash and love life.If you have a job chances are it barely covers rent and utilities, and all the people with lots of money think you're insane.The largest demographic is the baby boomer generation, which is rich as fuck from simply buying a house 10+ years ago. This is why consumer spending is high despite 80% of the population drowning in the cost of living. Boomers with reverse mortgages and HELOC loans are buying everything, going on frequent vacations, and propping up the sale of luxury goods. Those people are also the largest voter base and they are the majority of politicians. They are ignorant to the plight of 80% of the population and they can keep spending without them.As a result you get the MSM and richfags scratching their heads because they don't see how anyone can be poor. Even worse, they gaslight anyone complaining because deflation means the end of the party for the asset/investor class.
>>537727700>they don't see how anyone can be poor.No, everyone sees exactly how. It's just taboo to say outloud that you're a dumb fat nigger.
>>537727818>>537727779At least they're not speaking German.
>>537727838>Foreign retard is here to tell Americans about their own cost of living I see this way too often lately. Kikes and glowies must be bored now that they don't have to shill for the war in Iran.
>>537728020No, I'm just here to do a victory lap and dunk on fat lobotomized retards.>>537716298
>>537727455It also explains why Americans still hold on the illusion of muh cars and muh giant houses.It was all fine and dandy when Boomers had shit tons of money to make everything ridiculously far away and remove corner stores and houses ridiculously big, but now, we are suffering the consequences because Americans are very poor
>>537728125>lives in the usa during cheap times>leaves>acts like he knows what it's still like to live hereAnd I'm sure you could tell us all about how easy it is to get pussy if you move to the third world as well.
>>537728417>9 months ago was cheap times>the moment I step out it's expensive timesoh well. sucks to suck then incel faggit
>>537728552Then you are lying about the apartment being $800 in NYC if not the entire story. >inb4Pics or GTFO. I gave proof of $600 in the Midwest: >>537716232
>>537716232Those are probably 55+ apartments too...
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>>537728988Well fuck me then
>>537728988those are ROOMS HOLY SHIT
>>537727416>Anyway, I gotta get back to work. good luck boys. keep ya chin up.>Christ is King. Aloha.Wagey wagey get in cagey. Christcuck faggit
>>537729427CHECK MY OTHER POSTS, ASIAN WANNABE JIHADI
>>537729572Back to work, employim. Shlomoberg is calling you. He needs you to make him rich because you can't figure it out on your own.
>>537707048>meanwhile they have some of the highest incomes in the worldare you retarded, relative income is meaningless without comparing it to the local cost of living
