Substract public spending and public employed wages from gdp and Germany has been in a structural economic depression for 15 years, and by now not even the Keynesian marxist fake gdp calculation can overpaint it

>>537711178
oh yeah well the USA has been in economic free fall for 21 years, maybe longer! USA #1 as usual! we're going to collapse so much harder and worse than you guys, you wish you were this good! your national debt is a joke compared to ours. those are rookie numbers! i bet your government doesn't even have to manipulate CPI to make inflation look slightly less disastrous. does your government lie about employment? get on our level.

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>>537711178
>>537711301
Don’t worry Germany’s reform of social security will fix it
https://youtu.be/Ryq-VZ2OEoo

> coming soon the USA…
https://www.newsweek.com/germany-shows-what-america-social-security-reckoning-could-look-like-12111063

>>537711178
and it seems every decision in at least the past 10 years has only made things worse
(except for a few, whose stonks went up, i guess)
(who probably couldve made twice, and not let everything go to shit)
(who're obviously just soulless greedy fucks)
>climate hype
check, no more reliability for you
>DEI hype
check, no more competence for you
>ukraine hype
check, no more cheap energy for you

and what, to gloat about feeling morally superior?
thats just retarded, man

>>537711465
jokes on you, social security is already bankrupt because they took all the money from the fund and gave it to investment bankers! we're just better at drowning in debt than you guys. i bet we can even top weimar germany with inflation in the next decade. you can't even compete!

>The largest holder of intragovernmental debt is the Social Security Old-Age and Survivors Insurance Trust Fund, which holds $2.4 trillion, or 33 percent of intragovernmental debt, as of August 2025. Other accounts holding such debt include retirement funds for federal employees, Medicare’s Hospital Insurance Trust Fund, and the Highway Trust Fund.
https://www.pgpf.org/article/the-federal-government-has-borrowed-trillions-but-who-owns-all-that-debt/

also imagine that i posted one of the gay trump ai images of him in an american flag speedo or whatever, i won't deface the thread like that out of respect though

>>537711488
All those examples served only one purpose, trying to expand public credit for fake gdp growth on paper and the result has been crippling deligitimation for the concept of the state as a whole. Typical suicidal German boot licker behavior. Only this time, there is no USA to bail the socialist failures out nor a western Germany. Its the end of Germany, and the EU. The only question that remains is, is Germany going to be transformed into a nuclear wasteland, become a machovinian anarchist paradise or is it going to balkanize.

My bet is the latter, starting with the Bund trying a fail Preußen Schlag against Sachsen-Anhalt, which is going to spiral into the collapse of the EU

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>>537711048
Should've invested in Poland, not Germany. That country is finished.

Tay hat harte Nippel wegen ihrer Klimaanlage

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>>537711488
> climate hype
> DEI hype
> Ukraine hype

> Germans still applaud Robert Habeck, former minister for “Economy and Climate Protection”
https://youtu.be/97Gfiilbx-k

In Germany it pays to be a bullshit artist.

Don’t worry guys, there will be a new Heizkostengesetz and Wärmepumpenförderung and all will be well again and we will proudly proclaim
>wir sind wieder wer

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>>537712698
Bad metric. You gotta factor in price parity and per capita.
See picrel for GDP PPP per Capita

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>>537712698
On the other hand we're still doing pretty well in terms of the Human Development Index.
So we're not mega-rich, but very civilized I guess.

>>537713096
Steuer Oasen

>>537711048
>>537711048
Impossible. The German government wisely cut off all energy imports to stick it to Putler, then imported 30 million welfare migrants who do not work or contribute in any way. By the protocols of neoliberalism, the German economy must therefore be roaring!

>>537713201
True, dummes Argument von mir. Bei der Hitze schmelzen mir die Gehirnzellen weg

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>>537713096
>>537712698
You want to compare real GDP growth.
The German economy has stagnated for the last 5 years.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn02784/

>>537713096
>>537713158
Not a big fan of either of those since they heavily reward small outlier economies like Iceland and Liechtenstein. However, there is some truth to the picture they paint. Germany is a heavily developed country with a solid and strong foundation. The problem is we’re losing the means to maintain this foundation because of asset inflation which cut off younger generations from wealth, migration which cuts off younger generations from income and culture, and of course the boomer bomb which will detonate in 20 years when the majority of Germany’s population (60 year olds) will crash health insurances. This doesn’t even take into account the public pension bomb which already deletes 100bn from Germany’s yearly budget (roughly 25%). The current stats don’t show these structural problems and therefore one could think Germany is still a solid county. If you want to see the reality you just need to look at vanishing towns in east Germany or the Ruhrpott in west germany.

>>537713428
>sset inflatio

Honestly migration, inflation and demographics affect basically all developed nations and thus while we may well go downhill compared to that status quo or 2010 Germany, globally I think other nations are going to shit much quicker.
For example I wouldn't want to switch places with the french or brits

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