So what exactly did the US "lose"?
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>>537717306Izzat
>>537717306Access to the Middle East and it's natural resource wealth, also their dignity.
Every US equipment failure is now the result of a 'laundry fire'. The US lost the meme war with Iran lmao
>>537717424>the us produces more oll than the whole middle eastWhat exactly did we lose?
>>537717306the war, op
>>537717424How? Israel is still there standing with massive influence over the region.
Their prestige and reputationNo one will be intimidated by America on the future. It means a lot less diplomatic influence and respect. Carrying a big stick means nothing if everyone knows you can't actually beat anyone with it
>>537717306face. dignity. reputation for making wise military decisions.oh, wait... america lost those decades ago so you're right! nothing was lost!
>>537717386>Forgot to mention the duckDead duck > 300B to your (((enemy)))
>>537717306Money. It's like hiring an attorney. You may win your case, but what's the point if had to buy much more for attorney than you actually won in court?
>>537717495natural gas peaked in 22we're slowly seeing the decline of american oil production just from an economic perspective>>537717538israel doesn't make anything or produce any kind of wealth for the us. We help them out because a couple old money wasps think the polacks and krauts in the region are fuckin high elves or some shit
>>537717306A bunch of poor people had to be $80 extra at the pump over the course of 2 and a half months>instant loss
>>537717495All of our strategic objectives and $300bn cash.
>>537717306aura
>>537717561And yet America remains the most powerful nation on Earth uncontestedFunny how that works anon
>>537717306you dont win if you make an ass of yourself then rebuild your opponent
>>537717704>uncontested>Iran successfully contests uslol
>>537717306If you shoot stationary target, and its still there, you failed.
Nothing but dignity and, rest of their hegemony over the middle east.it's a great deal xD
>>537717306>So what exactly did the US "lose"?The war!?
>>537717306$300 billions dollars, and Trump distracting from the Epstein Files for another month.
>>537717306The trust of any rational national government in the world, for one. No diplomatic agreement from the US can be trusted if Israel makes a call and invalidates it. Literally the 'Isn't there someone you forgot to ask?!' consent meme.
>>537717757Right and Iran will now wipe out Israel from the Middle East, any day now lol
>>537717306>”soldiers” vs “people”
>>537717841A goalpost just flew over my favelaIranian patriots kicked the shit out of israeli mercenaries and scared them out of a ground invasion. Simple as.
>>537717306More Union than Confederate died during the Civil War. More Allies than Axis died in WWII. You know this, right?
you lost bolsokike
>>537717306Face
>>537717306a war?
>>537717889If Iran is contesting US hegemony like you say then surely they will be able to set out their ultimate goal of ending Israel?
Strategic supremacy over the Golf regionPrestigeThe war
>>537717306Credibility
>>537717386did iran not have ballistic missiles before? this seems like an iran L, they are not getting anything they didn't already have.
>Go into the war with the explicit goal of regime change>Fail to achieve said goal, despite killing most of their military leadership and wiping out most of their silosThey didn't lose much but they didn't win either
>>537717841Long term yes with Iran on the rise and the US undergoing a Soviet style collapse the long term future of Israel is not looking very good
>>537718085If the US was able to act anywhere military uncontested why did they have to flee our carrier from the region?
>>537717306just the tip
>>537717495The control over resources in other countries
>>537717306about tree fiddy (billion dollars)
>>537717306>set objectives >declare war>do not meet objectives>war is lostWhy does America insist upon not learning this lesson
>>537718126Im pretty sure it was the u.s goal for Iran to set up a toll in order to fuck up thirdies oil supplies and drive up the cost of Chinese goods. We get exactly ZERO oil from the straight of hormuz. Why would Iran start taxing the shit out of THEIR allies because the U.S. bombed them when they had never had a toll before? Shit is not making sense. Yoi get cope from the right saying "it was a victory because now we get inspectors" and cope from the left saying "hurrr durrr the u.s. got beat by Iran" when the only thing that happened is thirdies now cant get oil and we all have to pay for western oil company and defense contractor stonk value mooning.
>>537717306IZZATZZAT
>>537718126technically no, they did not say regime change was the goal explicitly. the stated goal was degradation of iran's military/terrorist arms and preventing them from getting a nuclear weapon. however, support of rioters implied that it would have been embraced by the US as a positive outcome.
>>537718463>Im pretty sure it was the u.s goal for Iran to set up a toll in order to fuck up thirdies oil supplies and drive up the cost of Chinese goodsThis is the king of all copes. The US started a war we couldn't win, because nobody wants to die for nothing but Israel and Iranians were ready to die to protect their country.It's as simple as that. The war was lost because Trump went in to it solely because a kike in his hear told him to
>>537718463Youre forgetting the Gulf states getting their oil infrastructure buttfucked
>>537718463>It was actually the US's goal to kill the petrodollar 4d chess lol
>>537717306I would answer but I see you don't have brain.exe running, meaning your hardware is incompatible with the data
>>537718552Youre just being a faggot because you have somehow spun this into a personal win for yourself. The ultimate cope.>>537718637>the petrodollar is killWhat would make you suggest that? The massive increase in WTI, Space-X, north Sea oil producers stocks?
>>537717306- exposed as Israel's puppet- $300,000,000+
>>537717306trillions is asset value, billions in dollars wasted, around twelve dead dumb goyim jew bots.
>>537717704>uncontested>forced to withdraw from every foreign engagement over the past 50+ years having, at most, accomplished a part of their stated military objectives
>>537718829>Increase in spaceXLol lmao
>>537718829You're upset because you have somehow spun the israeli-US federal government getting its shit kicked in very personally. Why would I be mad that a war started for nothing but israels benefit was promptly lost?
>>537717495what exactly did you gain?
>>537717306It's not even 16. It's 13 with 6 from an air mishap.
>>537718985Yea. Companies with government contracts are making a killing. You know, the people that pay for politicians to get into the white house. Those people are loving the u.s "losing".>>537719033Its not personal to me. Its economic. You're the one taking it personally, dipping.Explain to me how the people who bankrolled trump are "losing".
>>537717306credibility and respect as they got exposed at being a paper tiger who only bullies sandal wearing third world guerrilla fighters. only lost 16 soldiers (they admit to) because the fags wouldn't dare to invade. also killed 3,468 people not soldiers and a bunch of them even were schoolgirls. also they accomplished nothing and the strait is now managed by iran who will most likely use it to further their missile tech they used to buttfuck israel with while disregarding doe and thaad systems. they won't even need a nuke which they can build with the enriched uranium they still have. that and 300 billions
>>537717306the US didnt chieve its political goals, Iran did./threadps US heavily masks its casualities
>>537719343Buddy you really are flailing with no solid argumentative ground to stand on>the US actually wanted to get spanked on a global stage>the US actually wanted its carrier to get rekt>the US actually wanted its first combat loss of an F-35 to a nation whose entire military was supposedly wiped out>ermmm. its economics because.. we have an oil refinery or something
>>537717306dignity
>>537719771And yet, you can't explain how anyone that bank-rolled the current administration has lost?Sure, we lost. Shit sucks for us. But we arent the politicians or their financial interests who all seem to be making record profits.
>>537717306"People killed"Typical yanks, kill civilians, cause they can't kill soldiers
Killing people doesn't mean you win if they don't surrender
>>537720052This is the saddest attempt at an argument I think I have ever seen.
Whats crazy is they didn't even try to hide the embarrassing press statements. You can still find on the Whitehouse government website like 20 articles it released about how "we won, we destroyed their nukes in one strike, everyone else saying other wise is fake news".Its just literally right there.>June 25th 2025Holy shit. Its literally TO THE YEAR of the date of trump claiming total victory. Time flies when...your...winninghttps://www.whitehouse.gov/releases/2025/06/irans-nuclear-facilities-have-been-obliterated-and-suggestions-otherwise-are-fake-news/
>>537717495Anal virginity to a Mossad shlong.Than Iran run second round on you.
>>537717306America fights wars to win. Anything else is a loss and a win for the enemy.
>>537720180things are so bad now i wouldn't be surprised if that graphic was real
>>537717424>dignityHe’s asking what the Americans lost broStalin was right, America is nation of shiny machines and rotten morals
>>537720052>And yet, you can't explain how anyone that bank-rolled the current administration has You didn't get your third temple
>>537720160Not an argument. I accept your concession. Im glad you think you're winning while u.s corporations are making record profits after this catastrophic "loss".
>>537717306there was no war. burgers refused to comply with orangenigger, which was the first smart thing theyve done collectively. threy would have got shredded due to the terrain advantage of the defensive positions of the iranians combined with their hypersonic missiles.
>>537717495>What exactly did we lose?The US showed the whole world that if the enemy has ballistic missiles then the entire carrier group just sails to the edge of the map and hides. This will actually probably have quite far reaching implications in the next 20 years, particularly for things like Taiwan
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>>537717306Nigger bucks! Grill jewels! Street cred!
>>537717306>So what exactly did the US "lose"?The war
>>537720771Try considering that "winning" the war doesn't mean the same thing to the people who orchestrated it as it does for you and no one actually gave a shit what you think about it. >hurrr durr the u.s didn't achieve its goalsAccording to you. All I'm seeing is a bunch of people associated with this administration making a lot more money now than they were before.
>>537718552The issue is nobody wants to tell you why you’re wrong because you’ve clearly, like the bots at wikipeida, have already made up your minds on the matterNo amount of reality or pipelines, defensive leagues, feasibility of operations will change your mind. Remember when IRGC ran Syria? Whatever happened to Yemen blocking their straight? Go satellite view southern Lebanon, you’d understand why Iran can’t stop breaking ceasefires. The IRGC Cells are isolated and getting raped by Israel/Mossad/Grok. Rafa is so obliterated nature is healing and the holy land is turning green. Hallelujah.
>>537721153>no you see corrupt elements profited off our military defeat>that means we actually won...no, it means you lost and traitors successfully pilfered your coffersThats like losing twice lmao
>>537719525what were iran's political goals that they achieved?US can't mask casualties, there is a massive media presence that hates the US.
>>537717495>We Who is we?
The US lost a good part of their supply, and the losses are projected to grow.
>>537717306Some cope about muh objectives n sheeit
>>537717306The war
>>537721473>iran won its survival objectives!this is like saying Japan won WW2 cuz they survived and still had their emperor.
>>537717306>So what exactly did the US "lose"?everything
>>537721596did japan existing cuck the entire world out of oil?
>>537720709youre an idiot. this war was planned for decades. it was a death trap. why do you think iran has so much military power when their economy is dogshit and they produce nothing. it was a set up
>>537721329We launder casualties with 'training accidents' all the time lmao
>>537717306Planes
>>537721153>All I'm seeing is a bunch of people associated with this administration making a lot more money now than they were before.All I'm seeing is that money being worth less than ever. How much of our GDP goes to paying interest at this point?Who am I kidding, you don't actually know anything about economics beyond the cope you can deploy in this thread
>>537721229israeli loyalists like you will never be patriots and its adorable that you think otherwise
>>537717386you third worlders are delulu
>>537717306What did us gain?Didn't need to start a war to lift sanctions,and allow trade in dollars.Didn't need to start a war to open an already open strait.What was gained ? World famous fishing trowler navy gone? World famous 1 generation f-16 Air Force lost?
>>537721737No we don't. The amount of insane cope you guys come up with is a bit much.
>>537717306the wikipedia battle, duhoh you mean the actual "Iran War" where there were no troops on the ground whatsoever?
>>537722507>The amount of insane cope you guys come up with is a bit much.Loyalist, our most expensive military asset was supposedly taken out of commission by a laundry fire. The US military is only competent in hiding its incompetence and even then the entire world knows SENDCUM is copemaxxing
>>537722603>fellow Americans from Arkansas pradesh, we must admit defeat, just like this chink-crafted mutt meme says we were...just kill yourself brownoid
>>537722678>heh, you don't like the King? I bet you're brown huhThe absolute state of israeli loyalists
>we didnt lose Musk and Trump made money!Low quality pipul
>>537722603>our most expensive military asset was supposedly taken out of commission by a laundry fire.>supposedlydamn guess we have to give up our hegemony now was a good run doods
>>537723339Because a laundry fire is hilariously less embarassing for us than the reality that the 'goatfuckers' we waged war against kicked our shit in.The only reason we didn't do a ground invasion was because we couldn't, and that is why Iran won the war. But that is for the best, the war was not in US citizens' best interest so it is best if that war crashes and burns as soon as possible to discourage future attempts.
>>537717306Nothing. They just let Muslims write the wikipedia page and blocked any push backWikipedia page on recent happenings are always like at least 50% opinion anyways, check back in 5 years
>>537718095To be fair, USA emptied a lot of their missiles too shooting down small drones.
>>537722507Right, our carrier was disabled by a laundry fire. Whatever you say anon lol
>>537721329Considering we started the war to destroy the Iranian government, their objective was to survive, which they did.They also expanded their influence and strategic scope along with securing a year's worth of GDP for reconstruction.
>>53771730616 zogbots?
>>537717306>Hope
