Is it true that Europeans refuse to embrace AC because it's an American invention?
>>537732822They dont have the disposable income to afford it, everything goes to services for niggers of various origins.
>>537732822I am too poor to afford A/C
>>537732822*northern* europeans don't embrace AC because its only needed for like 5-10 days of the year in those countries. and usually, its right around the time of the year most of them are on vacation anyway*southern* europeans are much more likely to have AC, as its actually a good investment
>>537732822Some of us actually care about the environment
>>537732822No it's because it heats the city, so you need more AC that heats the city even more, etc.it is as retarded as datacenters.The problem we currently have is EU implemented some very harsh norms for construction, especially in insulation and every building les than 15 yo is basically a green house, heat cannot get out of it.My parents house from the 80s : not ideal, but no more than 27°C in the kitchen, 25°C in the bedrooms. my house, my workplace : 30°C, 19th century house of a friend : 23°C
>>537732957Fuck all to do with affordability. We just don't need it that often.
>>537734375also that, last 3 summers where horribly cold and rainy
>>537734189The problem is we are ruining our countries to feed billions of shitskins. Here is the real problem no one talk about.
>>537732822AC is considered haram in Islam, that's why Europeans don't use it
>>537733829>nobody is beating jeets and niggers that litter and polluteyou don't care about the environment, only virtue signaling that you care about it via this self flaggelation shit that's ultimately meaningless in the face of things ignored
>>537732822America enjoys a growing energy surplus. The only European countries with a regular energy surplus are Norway and Russia. General wealth is of course no comparison It is propaganda to make them accept a lower standard of living, whether they consider it going green or European machismo or basic anti-americanism or whatever
>>537732822It doesn't get hot enough for long enough. The forecast for next week is already cooler.
>w-we're suffering in the heat to save the environment, surely our sacrifice offsets all the fucking garbage outside
>>537733004Not even for a window unit? They work great in small dwellings like yall have
>>537732822no. Europe lies in the north. Severe heatwaves are mostly a short thing for most countries, so why bother. For a week? all the hasle of installation or money? winter is the season we have to adjust for months. greeks use it and it makes their inner cities even more miserable.
>>537734375In America, they also use AC for heating.In Europe, heating is done separately and AC is only used for cooling, which is why it's seen as a frivolous luxury.
>>537732822i have an ac for like a year now.
>>537734375Sounds like cope to me. Even if it was only hot one month a year I still would have AC. And tens of thousands of europoors die of heat stroke every summer so I think it's a little more than just izzatmaxxing by showing you don't need it, considering you are dying from not having it.
>>537734572This is what we Texans say when he get hit by ice storms and shut down for a day or two and people mock us, but when 95% of the other states and the rest of the world touches 90F they all just complain and basically shutdown like we do for ice.
Its a number of factorsThere is a limited utility to AC as in much of europe its only need for brief periods in the yearPeople aren't going to commit to the costs for a week or two a year of use.Retrofitting old buildings with centralised AC systems is expensive, difficult and sometimes impossibleThis does mean though that small portable AC units are becoming very popular. While not as energy efficient they are cheap to buy and don't require building modifications to support themLarger modern business buildings do typically have AC as part of their general HVAC system
>>537734610Did you know the average german house is a 650 sqft (60sqm) apartment and the average house in the usa (and australia) is 2300sqft (220sqm)
>>537734677>In America, they also use AC for heating.In the south, there is only a heat pump that reverses in winter. In the north, the same a/c unit is fitted with a furnace. Typically speaking
>>537732822The solution is to stop climate change and put solar shades in orbit.
>>537732822It's illegal to install them in a lot of places because the buildings here are older than your country and you can't just drill holes into it and modify them as you pleaseYou also don't need it for more than a month a year so getting the small one that you install is uncommon as well I personally have one because I live in a newer building and those come with ac but they didn't exist in the 1700's
The solution is of course to shoot all the migrants. What were we talking about?
>>537734724Makes total sense, never thought about it that way tho
>>537734527Game'n watch is about to strangle that poor girl.
>>537735149The USA is the third oldest country in the world, with san morino and uk being the only two older ones>b-but people were living there here too>b-but they were germans!!1!so germans are a race and the country of germany has only existed since 1991
>>537734801I just know their homes are smaller over there, which a window unti excels at and there is no need to upgrade a whole house to central ac. 2 nices one will cost like $500 and keep a place that size cold
>>537734375>we don't need air conditioners>so what if it's 40 degrees celsius and people are literally dying from heat strokeIt's freezing cold 5 months a year in Canada and I still need an AC for the summer.
>>537732822Listen. I am not trying to be funny or inflame some retarded political AC contest: I really mean it when I say that I do not need AC. My apartment is constantly comfortable. During the summer if it gets slightly hotter during they day, I just open a window at night which rapidly lowers the temperature for the next day. If I had more windows facing the sun, maybe I'd have a different opinion, but the mere fact is that the number of hot days are so few in this country that I simply do not need it. In fact, I don't even want it. I don't want the sound of an AC in my apartment, and I think AC air feels artificial.
>>537732957nigger you huts ( houses as you mike to call them ) collapse in every breeze
AC can be used as a vent or normal fan. Most units have settings to turn off the air compressor and use the fan instead in case you dont need to cool down at all times. The noise is always calming, especially for my tinnitus as the AC roars.
>>537734699you live in plywood
>>537732822When I traveled to Europe there were A/C everywhere.
>>537735334>Inb4 I am only pretending to be retarded
>>537734189consumers aren't abstaining from ac because it makes the outside hotterthey aren't that benevolent
>>537735737Its the truth. Austria, for example, has only existed since 1955. You are a very young country
>>537735452AC makes the temperature outside to go up. I don't want it to be plus 5 degrees outside more than it needs to be.
>>537735944You sure?
Only useful 1-2 weeks a year.Our windows don't accomodate it.Ugly and vulgar.Disconnects you from nature.Sole benefit really is to piss off leftists. But I don't care about leftists enough to piss them off.
>>537732822>because it's an American invention?yes all true. they hate it even more now due to TDS. let them burn in summer.
>>537734677mostly people use a space heater here
>>537732822They don't have the electric grid for it
>>537732822>Take that, America!
>>537735452They're poorer than us and on average we're as poor as American blacks. They can't save one Euro per day for a year to buy an AC. It's financially beyond them.
>>537736264Yep, the arch dutchy of austria had an entirely different borders, laws and system of government. Sure, some of the same peoples live there today but so did some of the same people live in the usa 10,000 years ago but no one is calling the usa 10,000 years old
>>537732822Plenty of Jewropeans have AC. One reason against it is cost. Europeans don't have that simple window design where you can just plop in a cheap AC and use the window retention to hold it. So you can either get a window cover to line the exhaust of a mobile unit to, which is cumbersome, or you install an expensive indoor-outdoor unit, which can be extra problematic in some cases due to architectural regulations.
>>537736572It had the same culture, religion and language. Plus it was a country. Natives chimping out on a prairie is not a civilization. And those people aren't the ones who created the US.
>>537734671>>537732822I just realised something: Europe is genuinely gay and retarded and Americans are gay and retarded for not identifying a VERY FUNNY AND IRONIC JOKE/PLOT TWIST to all of this. Scenario:Fatmerica: oh man i am sure hungry, hey europe it's so hot, why don't you get some AC? Europe: hal 'ant majnun ya sadiqi? - we Eurpeans care about global warming and the environment, and Europe is usually cold not getting warmer, so why would we need AC???
>>537736635Dude buildings are often obligated to have certain things in order to be legal. This could easily be implemented.
>>537732822I don't complain and don't use an AC. Checkmate.
>>537735944that's not what the other anon said, though. He just said many houses here are older than the US which is true.
>>537736572Also, his first point was about buildings being older than the US. Were the Natives building churches, cathedrals, castles and town halls before 1773?
>>537732822I personally do have AC but holy jesus the americans and their cars with self opening doors and self driving like you can't withstand the minimum effort or slight inconvenience
>>537736635It's also the fact that even a cheap window unit costs more than yuropoors' after-tax income can support. Niggers in Mississippi have more spending money than Yuropoors. Most people, including Yuropoors, don't quite understand just how poor they really are. That's why you're seeing this wave of amazement from World Cup fans coming to the US and seeing the comparably decadent life suburban Americans have even in flyover states Democrats hate.
>>537736791>couldLots of things could be, but ain't.
>>537732822We get like 2 weeks of scorching weather and handle it because we aren't fucking pussies. No point shelling out thousands of pounds for something we'll use for a few weeks out of the year.
>>537736934You're like the mirror version of the retarded Jewropean shitting on America for xyz.
>>537736712>same cultureno, the culture of feudal archdutchy has almost nothing in common with modern Austrian cture>religionno, austria majority non religious now and is 22% muslim>languageno, the archdutchy and modern austria have different official languagesAustria is a young country only 81 years old, the archdutchy was a country that lasted about 250 years, but that was 200 years ago
>>537736934Funny how muttmericans think they’re the richest people on earth
>>537736984"Oi Nigel, mum's dead!""Well that's just a bum-peck-in-a-bush, innit? Tank gawd we dun' have an aiah cunditionah.">>537737048It's just objective fact that nig-nogs in Mississippi can go to Walmart and easily afford a window A/C unit, but a white man in Scotland can't. When even our feckless welfare whore niggers have more money than you, you might want to rethink things.
>>537736984no we have been moaning non stop, its horrible turn the sun off
>>537736821Yes, Europeans have been in north america for a thousand years and settled permanently starting in the 1400s, about the time the archdutchy formed. You count the usa as 1776 because thats when we declared independence and have kept the same government ever since, the same should be said for all countries
>>537737119>the culture and language were actually different
>>537736737Canada has air conditioning Mexico does have not air conditioning The European is dead
>>537737146Oh not at all. We're just far wealthier than the Yuropoors, perhaps barring the rare high-altitude Mountain Jews in Confoederatio Helvetica.
>>537737262How many buildings can I find in the US from the 1400s?
>>537737364*does not haveFuck dammit
>>5377373657 European countries have a higher gdp per capita than the US
>>537732822Yes. It is true. Many Europeans brainwashed by EU rather die and will die, than accept American lifesaving technology. Wish I was joking by the way.
>>537737357They were, this is a fact not open for debate>>537737393Thousands, churchs, houses and townhalls were the first things build and also best preserved. Your country has only existed since 1993
>>537734801>german house is a 650 sqft (60sqm)That's mostly apartments dragging down the average.German HOUSES are more like 200 square meters (2000 square feet).But most Germans live in flats (apartments).
>>537737688The town hall in my town was built before 1100
>>537735453It is brutally hot and humid in 95% of the USA from May to October so they literally can't fathom Northern Europe.
>>537737766>flatsDoes that mean most other dwellings are curvy? >Here is the rolling hill living room!>Over there is bumpy bedroom!>>537737828Do they still use candle lights or something? No? They up graded to electricity? Hmm wonder what else they could up grade. Maybe instead of filing cabinets they could use a computer... Wait they have those also?!?!?!
>>537737205Everybody in the world can afford a chinkshit AC unit. That's the whole point of chinkshit. Just because you buy a more overpriced one, doesn't mean your quality of life improved.
>>537737828Thats cool, your country is only 33 years old though, i have sunglasses older it
>>537735455Go back to Turkey.
>>537737688>ThousandsHe said from the 1400s it's the 15th century, so almost none as Christopher Columbus expedition was in 1492https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_oldest_buildings_in_the_United_StatesThere are 5 from the 16th century.
>>537737930It's just an English word for apartment although Americans basically never use it.
>>537737934Cool, your country is still less old than my town of a few thousands people
I don't get the whole "EU doesn't like AC" meme. Am I being gaslighted or something? Everyone I know has one and I'm not even from one of the really hot EU countries.
>>537735452The only ones dying are demented boomers that treated their children like shit and now have noone to look after them when they go out without a hat or water, get lost and die.And small children thatget locked inside a car by retarded parents, but those were doomed from the start.Smart, healthy adults don't die from a little bit of heat. Same as it was with the corona scam and many other cases.
>>537734724Europeans mock Americans because they're just incapable of self-awareness or basic understanding. It's the same thing they do when they cry about us not speaking multiple languages. Who are we going to speak multiple languages to? You either speak English, or you speak English here.
>>537737977>Christopher Columbus expedition was in 1492Heard thats when he sailed the ocean blue >>537738011Hahaha, I know im just messing around, and I think in some places they do call them flats, but I my only euro saying that really grinds me is when they say "Holiday" instead of "Vacation"
>>537732957This. The AC is only $100-150 but they're going to shit themselves when their electric bill comes in.
>>537734189>nobody:>retard: BUT WHAT ABOUT THE DATACENTERS. THAT'S WHY GRANDMA DIED OF HEATSTROKE AND 400 NIGGERS DROWNED IN A RIVER
>>537738058Nah other states mock Texas for our 2 days a year Ice shut down, but then those states cry when it get over 90F.
>>537733829if you've ever flown on a commercial airliner you've already done more damage than years of using A/C. Dumb toothpaste nigger
>>537738113I've been in Europe so long none of it bothers me.All the British words.Even the ESL grammar fails.It's nothing to me at this point.Also, you DO understand ebonics tho...so I'll take weird German ESL over THAT any day.
>>537737977Thats cool France has is only 58 years old, you are a very young country as well>>537738021So is Boston bud
>>537737231been working in it all day, it's been hotter.
>>537738178Yes... I know... But I'm talking about Europeans...
>>537738058Since when do niggers speak english?Also Spanish.
>>537738339They speak it better than the average European does.>spanishYou will never need to know Spanish in the US.
>>537732822North Americans won't either once the datacenter demand prices them out and they get rolling blackouts.
>>537733004An ac unit costs 1/2 the cost of your phone
>>537732822No it's because it's only really unbearable for a few days a year. This year we just happened to have a couple heatwaves back to back. Normally we're one and done, in the UK at least.
>>537732822Ac doesn't solve global warming you idiot. Also if every appartment gets its own AC it can raise temperatures in cities by 3 degrees celsius.>in b4 global warming isn't realyeah incel, it is real. open your eyes. Ask old people
>>537738580lmao hey retard in the 70s scientists were warning about a new ice age
>>537734677Probably the most succinct explanation of this I've read.
>>537734189Abruti.I have AC in each bedroom of my apartment.
You guys forgot that comic strips are supposed to be funny
>>537738309>Foundation of Boston: 1630>Foundation of my small town: 1000s>Foundation of Paris: 250 BC>Foundation of Rome: 753 BC>Foundation of Athens: 3000 BCDo you understand the vast difference now? There are buildings in Europe numerous times as old as anything in America.
>>537738664lmao hey retard they weren't. Global warming has been known since the 70s. And don't cherry pick one scientist, i know you want to, but then it will mean you're literally a mouth drooling trump voter with a maga hat and an obese wifeTemperature are recorded, they're increasing, what more does your pea brain need?
>>537732822They are impressed by our gas stations. Yuros are third worlders.
>>537738580Wow you're such a great upstanding White person allowing everyone to enjoy -3c from baseline deadly heat waves.
>>537738817There are buildings here from 5000 years ago as well bud, doesnt change the fact that your little country is only 33 years old and mine is the third oldest at 250. U mad?
>>537738882Global temperatures are increasing because its summer, they will drop again in the fall. This happens every year retard
>>537738953Show me those 5000 year old buildings in the US
>>537733318Those 5-10 days are just in time for 50,000 of them to die. If you could spend a few extra sheckles a year for something that would preserve your very life, would you? Why are Northern Europeans acting like cheap Jews?
>>537739136Brother 90% of buildings in Europe are no older than the 1700s and are probably more accurately post world war 2 since so much of Europe got blown to bits and rebuilt after the war.
>>537732822The problem is not the money, most people can afford an AC just fine.There's several reasons for the current situation:>it was genuinely rare to have super hot days in the summer, you got a week of 30+ degrees tops and at this point why bother with an ac >a significant population is rentcucks and landlords usually don't allow you installing a split ac, so your only options are a single unit ac or a fancier portasplit (picrelated) which came out like only 2 years ago >homeowners generally don't bother because houses are well insulated You do see an uptick in people buying ACs now, so if you're into stonks you might try capitalising on this lmao. Homeowners install split ACs, rentcucks buy a mono unit or the portasplit
>>537734189It heats the city? Good lord you guys are delusional. If you want your elderly to die of heat stroke then that's on you. The city is hot because of the environment and the sun. Air conditioners transfer heat from the inside of the house to the outside. Logically what you are saying is true but it's a ridiculous cherry picked rejection of modern comforts. Electrical grids heat the city. Lights heat the city. Automobiles heat the city. Cooking heats the city. Breathing heats the city. The city absorbs heat because it's made of concrete and metal as opposed to foliage. Why not just accept that all energetic endeavors terminate in thermal energy dispersing into the environment and embrace that fact rather than arbitrarily determining that one is not acceptable.
>>537739136They’re in the south west, ive seen them. Doesn’t change the fact you live an country that’s probably the same age as you are, whilst I live in the third oldest country in the world, as well as the richest and most powerful. Do enjoy you “900 year old” townhall haha
The main reason why Northern Europeans don't buy ACs is that a) people live in rented apartments cannot install any "real" ACs without landlords permission (or even without the housing company's permission), we can only use the portable ones and b) summer is relatively short and some summers we only have a few day long heatwaves. People are basically gambling. c) most homes in N-Europe are isolated so well that they just passively stay cool. No cardboard walls, actual +30 cm thick of isolation.AC's are cheap and electricity here in Finland is cheap. It's not a money issue. Right now summer is half way done and so far we have had 2 days where the temp went over 25 degrees of celsius. Some homes in Finland stay pretty chill, like some never go above 25, not even during a month long +30 degree heatwave. We have strict building related laws about passive and active ventilation, which actually helps with cooling. The homes that do get hot don't matter that mich cos nights are cool (10-17 degrees) so you just keep your window open and you are fine.
>>537739527>ive seen them trust me bro they really exist
>>537734189>it heats the citybut it cools it from the cold air inside. even faster if you open the windows.or just install an AC outside to cool the outside air to compensate for the AC inside. problem solved.and either way literally every other countries have AC what is Europe using AC (much more expensive because they'll come up with retarded high standards about efficiency and making sure muh gas inside doesn't leak) will change?
>>537736984More euroids die of heat stroke than all US gun deaths. Go ahead and square that circle Nigel.
>>537732822European buildings were built pre-AC and dont have places to mount them, and Europeans would not uglify their cities like that. Leave that for mutts and asian bug-hives
>>537734753>People aren't going to commit to the costs for a week or two a year of use.True. Why spend $5k for an AC that will last 20 years in your $1 million house?
>>537732822Do Americans have a big electric appliance for every little need that may arise once or twice in a year?Up until Global Warming started to kick in (although it's just a Chinese hoax), hot temperatures were extremely uncommon north of Italy, so the only concern was heating homes not cooling them. Offices all have AC though.It's not a matter of money, because almost every home in South Europe have AC although they are poorer. Even North Africa is massively equipped.
>>537739142They’re slave minded
>>537732822
>>537740615>Do Americans have a big electric appliance for every little need that may arise once or twice in a year?Yes but more extreme than that. It’s cold and snowy 7 months out of the year where I live and half of my neighbors have RV’s and boats just because they can. They probably use them 2 weeks each out of the entire year. We have a middle class with disposable income so we buy stuff. Our backyards are just private parks we take 4 wheelers, dirt bikes, etc out on.
>>537739142>Those 5-10 days are just in time for 50,000 of them to dieRegular reminder that all of those """heat deaths""" stats that come out of Europe are not actually people dying from heat exposure, they're 'heat RELATED deaths'. It's excess deaths correlated against average temperatures, and includes everything from drownings to car accidents, on the basis that 'well if it wasn't so hot, they wouldn't have gone outside would they???'
>>537740615>Do Americans have a big electric appliance for every little need that may arise once or twice in a year?Unironically yes. Americans have snowblowers that that might use once a decade, or a boat that they might use once if ever. Some Americans have perfectly functional extra cars that they've never driven in a decade. It's not uncommon to see an American with a backup generator that only ever gets used once a decade during a short possible blackout.
>>537742019And those Americans always get the final laugh even if its for one day
>>537732957fpbp. they’re called europoors for a reason
>>537742211Oh I know. The power went out for something like 8 hours in my neighborhood a few years ago, I was quite amazed at how many people all of a sudden had a generator going. The same with snowblowers, we had a single snowstorm that dropped several feet of snow one winter a good long time ago, just about everyone made quick work of their paths with snowblowers. The city was overwhelmed and the snowplow trucks didn't roll during that storm, but yet every street and driveway and path in my neighborhood was cleared off. Never seen anyone here have use of a snowblower since that storm, but I'm pretty confident that they're ready for the next one.
>>537740054Literally fake graph you dumbo. It's just because the US don't record heat deaths the same way
>>537734189>No it's because it heats the city, so you need more AC that heats the city even more, etc.Are you fucking retarded?
>>537738993Wow you're heckin smart. I'm sure scientists didn't notice this.
>>537732822I want it now but if I bought it, it would be expensive and I’d only use it for maybe 1 week of the year.Weather here is usually just compete shit all year round. It only just stopped raining every goddamn day about 4 days ago.
>>537740917>>537742019I see... I'm sure most Northern European could sink a few grands to equip their house with an AC. Maybe a mix of laziness, stinginess and some muh planet to reach perfect inertia on that topic. Maybe we just need some trend setters to start moving.I ended up buying a portable "window" AC unit (living in a big city rented flat) after a few years of heatwaves. I have ended up buying some appliances that I used to view as exaggerated, US style luxury, after I had a few kids.
>>537733829Oh please, your entire country is fake land, what "environment"?
>>537732822my fan is enough
>>537734189>it heats the cityI know cities over there can be very dense so there might be a bit of truth to this, but I doubt it makes even a cunt hair more of a difference than the fact that there's concrete everywhere soaking up the sun making it hot anyways.>every building less than 15 yo is basically a green house, heat cannot get out of it.Sounds more like good insulation than a greenhouse to me which, if that's the case, an AC will have less work to do once the space is decently cool and dry.Every single thing I've heard from Europeans on this has either been woman-tier bitching just for the sake of bitching, or insanely retarded cope which can only be the product of some odd neurosis.It's like a toddler crying about being tired but refusing to take a nap, or getting pissy over some stupid shit like a purple crayon being too close to the green crayon because of some esoteric reason that even they don't understand.>"Waaahhhhh... I'm so hot!">"Buy an air conditioner.">"NOOOOOOOOO THE CITY WILL GET HOT AND, AND IT'S LIKE DATACENTERS AND THE HOUSE IS JUST HOT BECAUSE IT IS!!!!!! WAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!! I'M SO HOT! YOU DID THIS WITH YOUR TRUCK!!!!! WAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!"For FUCKS sakes, either drop a few hundred Euros on a floor unit, shut the fuck up and deal with it like a man instead of complaining with no plan to do anything about it, or drop dead from a fucking heat stroke already. I swear, the only European men worth a damn who didn't jump on a ship to the New World when the opportunity arose was killed off in the World Wars, and all that's left is a pathetic race of histrionic twink bug people.
>>537733829Kek what a cuck
>>537732822why is trump wearing french shirt?
>>537734522Has to be this.
>>537732822They believe suffering for a few weeks is better than paying a 20% higher power bill that month. It's really a very jewish mindset when you think about it.
fyi: friendly reminder, if you have floor heating, you should keep it running in summer because it will cool your house
