>picrel translated from nordniggerWe unironically live in clown world.You don't want to get randomly stabbed in the middle of the street, on the subway or in your own home? You're literally Breivik.You don't want your preteen daughters raped and your sons murdered? Literally Tarrant.Do they know what they're doing? Do they understand how fucking crazy they sound like? Do they know that to any normal person with an IQ of above 105 they sound like fucking martians? Or are they just knowingly churning up the fear propaganda by 150% to attempt to scare the few illiterate retards left into accepting this?Do they know what they're doing? Do they understand it and simply pretend they don't? Or are they genuinely braindead?
>>537745527bro there hasn't been a "right-wing" since at least the war, arguably before. the left has been doing this for at least a century, it's LITERALLY their only way of viewing the worldthere is no right-wing, there is only not-left, a big soup of whatever the fuck
>>537745527 By their own definitions there would be a lot more than that.
im never ever voting right wing
>>537745757I get that, but i'm just at my wits end on trying to decipher if they're either so deceitful and full of shit they can't even attempt to engage with absolutely anything with a shred of good faith or if they're genuinely fucking retarded.>picrel is 90% of leftists to me
>>537745897the secret to leftist duplicity is that there is no secretyou counter each resistance or argument with an even more inflated barrage of claims and outrage, up to and including literally shaking with ragethe jews call it chutzpahthe secret is that there is no secretyou're either in the club or you're out of itmaybe you've ever argued with a woman who
>>537745527>Do they know what they're doing? Do they understand how fucking crazy they sound like? Do they know that to any normal person with an IQ of above 105 they sound like fucking martians? Or are they just knowingly churning up the fear propaganda by 150% to attempt to scare the few illiterate retards left into accepting this?You say they are clownish and EVERYONE can see it with such confidence while the reality of the opposite keeps slamming you in the face election after election, protest after protest. Mildly anti immigration protests get a few hundred marching. Open borders gets tens of thousands in the street. Mildy anti immigration politicians in Norway get laughably small numbers of votes. America is no different. They DO know what they're doing, it is working in literally every consevible way. There isn't even any small wins you can point to. 1000% total domination.
>>537746067...was in the wrong but couldn't admit it for whatever reason, and then proceeded to evade and escalate to the point of shouting and cryingit's like thatthen tomorrow nothing happened and they wonder why you're upset
>>537745527Yes they know what they are doing the had 70 years to study humans like cattle in the Soviet Union
>>537745527The goverment still takes your kids away if you are a dissident?
>>537746106>then tomorrow nothing happened and they wonder why you're upsetlike he said it himself.
>>537746263forgot pic
>>537745897They are trying to justify their jobs. It’s that simple.
>>537746303there is some mystery around how and when exactly a man falls out with the partypeople have been theorizing about how it happens for over a decade on this board alonethough a lot of people still get stuck in some other nonsensical ideological frame, at least the first step is just a big NO to whatever the bullshit isyou just can't reason people out of it, democracy is a bust
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>>537747250yeah but actually they are thoughthe entire propaganda apparatus kind of disproves that pointit doesn't work for some men, but it's unclear who those men areit's definitely not a function of mere intelligence
>>537747331Yeah socialists have a metaphysical lust for depending on the state. Thats sad.
>>537746069I guess you're right. Scandis are some of the biggest fucking cucks the world has ever known.
>>537747487nah man they wanna be the state to smash their opponents and get pussythe best way to get socialist "voters" or supporters is to make others dependent on the state, i.e. themor they wanna be dependent and not do shit that's true, but those are mostly youngsters thoeven a low-level bureaucrat in a socialist system gets his dick hard over whatever small "impact" he has (i.e. power)tale as old as time, power and no responsibility
>>537747664I think the picture on the cover of this books shows where socialism is heading.
>>537745527> support far-right ideasUnless they take "far-right" action there is no hope.This holds true for every nation in Europe.Tolerance has become deadly to those who believe in it.
>>537747899i've never bought the idea of all-encompassing tyranny by repressive oligarchy. you can do that for a while but you're basically an existential enemy of the nation at that point, and all the ordinary productive things will simply break down. you become more and more anarchic and third worldish until it either breaks down entirely or you keep a mad max enclave with pure security forces and scramble over food. don't forget that socialism simply DOES NOT WORK. you can not build a command economy. you are introducing pure entropy into the system and you will demolish it. even libertarians should understand that a hobbesian king needs the country to stay healthy, and to the extent he goes for wanton destruction he will also destroy his assets. acton got it exactly wrong, it's not absolute power that corrupts but fragmented power. a million bureaucrats and oligarchs scheming for power and devouring whatever was functional in a society until there are only scraps left.
>>537748144I think that if the socialists international goverment happens, the next stage is for the Antichrist to be announced as its king. Ofc thats just my own opinion.
>>537748414it's possible. if you get a world empire with no recourse, then i can see irreparable damage being done. it's already the case that social structures that were built up over centuries were wiped out in the span of a few generations of blood. people think the modern world is pretty fancy cause we've got iphones and shit, but really we live in the social ruins of past civilization, and nothing has been allowed to be built on it yet. personally i think we are just gonna have a slow decline into third worldism. everything grayer, worse, more expensive, more criminal, just worse all around
>>537748144Or maybe even a fake Antichrist "savior" that topples it. Generally the "live in the earth happily for ever" doctrine imo is fallacious.
>>537748583the (current) problem of the antichrist scenario as i see it, is that socialism does not exactly work by people in the party being easy servants. stalin was a ruthless dictator because he had to be, and insane corruption was just rampant everywhere. how are you gonna switch from socialism with fragmented power everywhere to a hierarchical system like a monarchy? they are mortal enemies
>>537748568Rise of technology seems to have made humans sink as personality, capability, independance, initiative.
>>537745527How do these jews expect to maintain control long-term when the very policies they pursued created the right wing? >Just die and go extinct quietly!This is what they're actually demanding.
>>537748723nah those social structures were demolished in the 20th century by war and political repression. surprise surprise, "liberalism" goes around destroying and killing everywhere it goes. leftists gotta eat after all
>>537745527You dont want random somalis rummaging through your trashcan at 3am armed with a knife knowing they can stab you and just get a light slap on the wrist? YOU RACIST BIGOT
150000 breiviks would probably get it done
>>537748715The goal of socialism is to subdue and corrupt people not externally (thats just a need of a time where people retain their individuality and free spirit), but internally. Freedom and personality go hand in hand. Socialism wants to totally corrupt personality, then freedom means very little. People then will carry the system inside them, as the socialist jailer in 1984 responded to the protagonist when told he would die, "the party never dies, and the party is all i am" or something in these lines.
>>537747899I've been meaning to read this
>>537748971well sure, but the thing is that human are extremely social creatures. all this new age anxiety and existential dread about your "identity" is retarded to anyone from another century, because your identity was inextricably bound up in your social groups, who were all naturally formed to some extent and really quite sturdy. if you read accounts of even the victorians, not that long ago, you see a tapestry of social fabric that you and i can not even begin to imagine. you destroy these things, make them illegal because of "liberalism", and put everyone through the same goddamn education and news, and you get a society of retarded pigs, most of whom will have no clue there is something wrong with them except some vague ennui. it just werks.
>>537748144We need to go back to mercantilism to be quite honest. Speculation needs to be banned, trade should be based entirely on delivered manufactured goods. Yes it will make the world "less rich", but mercantilism was entirely stable for centuries.
>>537749246well there's a lot of things we "should" do, like abolish central banking, making currency printing or "rate fixing" illegal on pain of death, implementing mercantilism and probably some technology restrictionsbut none of that can happen with the current political system, and even if we tried it would probably cause an apocalyptic meltdown of our current clown world economyyou may think you want this but you really dont. we're talking mad max x1000
>>537745527>150,000KekIt’s WAY more than that. 90% of all males under 45, and 51% of all females under 45
>>537745527Why is it "extremism" to want to put your own kind first?
>>537745527>You don't want to get randomly stabbed in the middle of the street, on the subway or in your own home? You're literally Breivik.If only we had 100 Breiviks across Europe... everything would change in a matter of days.
>>537749168Human relations on the basis of free will, work, enterpreneurship, opinions, is to be expected, most people cant live by themselves. In fact, the state interfering with virtually any area of life (pretending it wants to help) has historically seen to be destructive. Imo a state, if it exists, should only have police, army and court system. And as few laws as possible, and not have any policy apart from guarding the borders and uphold a minimum of regurality. Maybe something like sheriffs in wild west USA.
>>537745897>either so deceitful and full of shit they can't even attempt to engage with absolutely anything with a shred of good faith or if they're genuinely fucking retarded.half of column A, and half of column B
>>537746069>Open borders gets tens of thousands in the street.Easy when the police set it all up for you
>>537750211Well either that, or the state itself is populated by the aristocrats of the underlying society and there is actual unity in the society. You're thinking like a libertarian, reasoning from first principles of security and economics, since none of us have ever lived in a society that actually has a soul. Even the mere basics like no crime and reasonably free economics are already pipe dreams. Sad!
>>537750323I dont think in terms of society. Just family, neighbors i know, local life only if itsnt contradictory to what i value, and nationality but in a vague sense. And i wouldnt agree on a family table with close relatives manytimes, imagine how far agreeing with a general concept of "society" would be. Nvm, maybe we are different cultures, thats the beauty of the world, many nations and mentalities.
>>537750726hey neither do i man, that's why i'm telling you we can't even imagine it. i guarantee your country used to be like that too though. we live among ruins
>>537749393guarantee you, that if you were to put your central banking back in the hands of your own nation, owned by your own people, and have a currency not based on debt, you'd solve x>50% of your current issues.
>>537751032well we would not solve the immediate problem of inflation and debt outstanding. we would see the mother of all recessions and unemployment of biblical proportions. i don't mind a central bank in practice if it's an improvement over the current system, but i dont see how it could do a better job at risk assessment for loans than, you know, people that loan their money.
>>537749246The stock market should be deleted.
>>537745897 The left doesn't believe in discourse, they believe in getting their way. They believe that their way is moral and your way is immoral and you are morally defective for not adopting their beliefs. In the eyes of the leftists you are never merely mistaken or even ignorant, you are morally DEFECTIVE for not adopting their idealogy. Thus they begin the conversation with an utter disdain for you and believe that you are not capable of properly learning so they don't engage and attempt to each. Instead they beat you over the head with deceit, gaslight you and assault your mind with the intent of breaking you down mentally and rendering your mind into clay that they can remold. Nor do they even consciously need to be trained in this strategy, the entire ethos of leftism makes the struggle session their natural response to all opposition.
>>537745527They're doing it on purpose to trigger a world wide race war
>>537745757This, i can imagine for Norway/Eu its probably even worse than in the USA. At least a good portion of the people they are labeling far right in Norway would probably be like normie tier conservatives in the USA. Kind of the opposite of the US where liberals love to say the US is skewed to the right and we dont have a real left like Europe even though its bs.
>>537751806>They believe that their way is moral and your way is immoral and you are morally defective for not adopting their beliefs. In the eyes of the leftists you are never merely mistaken or even ignorant, you are morally DEFECTIVE for not adopting their idealogy. Thus they begin the conversation with an utter disdain for you and believe that you are not capable of properly learning so they don't engage and attempt to eachThis is also something i've noticed with leftists. Not even evangelical preachers are this condescending and arrogant in their moral superiority. I've almost never seen a leftist engage in something as if it was on their level. It's either always from the great atheist heavens of marx and the likes or from stupid illiterate peasants who needs to be caned into communism.
>>537745527It's their oldest truck anon. If you control the framing of the debate you control the debate.
>>537752119An American Christian-conservative is, to the european liberal, a Burgundian system tier neo-nazi that wants to nuke the whole third world and reform einsatzgruppen battalions to hunt down every brown man woman and child left.
>>537752201>It's their oldest truck anonSo what you're saying is i need to buy a newer truck?
>>537752119we got the full nine-yard treatment after ww2 with the marshallplan and a lite version of Directive 1067 during the marshall plan, and that obliterated anything like the right-wing organizationally or politically in europe. of course there were some pockets but they were never allowed to organize and still aren't.
>>537752139 It's a very pugnacious pseudo-religion. I have this red diaper baby who's part of my extended friend circle and one day he just casually mentioned having fantasies of attacking Fascists at 11 years old and it got me thinking. Communism takes that Jewish idea of tikkun olam but puts a very violent spin on it, the revolution isn't just an inevitability it's basically the rapture for these people and preparing for it is practically a religious experience. If they're not hectoring the unbelievers then they're physically attacking them to in order to purge "counter-revolutionary" heretics. "The classless society is just around the corner! We will build communism! Real Communism has never been tried! We will bring about the Messi...errr Revolution!" It's not just the right-winger who is wrong in their mind, the world itself is wrong and they're out to correct it. It would be a very "will to power" ideology if they weren't all Quixotic morons intent on winning the joust with the fundamental laws of economics and the twin realities of race and culture.
>>537752201Language is important. What they call "far-right" was just normal 100 years ago, what we call "left" is really just the subversion of normality.
>>537748144Checked, and it's a good observation. Ultimately all economies are products of their etymology, 'household Management's -- the oikos. And oikos ultimately means clan. Family. How you manage the annoying and offensive and sometimes lethal shit your family does, is basically also the same way you manage economies.
>>537754269Also important is color. The color of revolution, red, was in the Middle Ages considered to be the opposite of white.
