Why won't this economy just fucking collapse already?
>>537753031>Why won't this economy just fucking collapse already?FIAT money
>>537753031>Why won't this economy just fucking collapse already?Because those jews promised investors a digital god, and found unlimited money glitches by printing fake stocks and trading them in circular deals with other corporations, this AGI god lunacy will end when these billionare parasite are no longer able to parasite the real economy.
>>537753031the economy is actually benefitting. companies are seeing productivity boosts and figuring out new ways to do things. hardware companies are posting massive revenues. material and construction are taking on massive new clients. all of this is real money, it's just a few homosexual Jews are racking up some massive debt to pay for all of it. this is a low key bailout, not a new industrial revolution. these companies will pop but all of that money spend ended up in the economy.
>>537753031imagine looking like that
Maybe they should figure out how to be more efficient thenOtherwise deal with the free market you billionaire kikes love so much
>>537753031a business needs revenue?since when?
>>537753031I thought the logo was a cum splatter.
>>537753031Another quality Valuetainment twitter screen cap thread.Your trusted source for trusted news.
>>537753315It's a butthole actually
>>537753031It should have collapsed around 2020 but somehow our purchasing power is in the shitter but the economy overall hasn’t crashed yet. Something is fucky
>>537753283They dont need to compete, that jew in anthropic is already lobying the goverment and the UN to censor wrong-think models. Meaning that in the future you might be forced to pay for his shitty LLMs
>>537753031Orc magic
>>537753031>everyone can be a programmerOnly retards don't see the value in ai
>>537753031Oh no! Not the ponzi scheme!
>>537753031i don't understand where all the money goes?why would they need all that money for?
>>537753344>It should have collapsed around 2020 but somehow our purchasing power is in the shitter but the economy overall hasn’t crashed yet. Something is fuckyDue to massive inflation, economies dont collapse with inflation, what happens is that the wealth is siphoned from the working class to the wealthy, you can keep this up for decades, the working class gets poorer with less purchasing power and increased wealth gaps, you just cut consumption and things you take for granted like IPhones become luxury goods.Then the goverment starts to print money in order to distribute subsidies and make people believe they are rich.When you reach zimbabwe levels of inflation small bussinesses go bust but the capitalist class was protected by tax codes, regulations and the transference of wealth.
>>537753031this whole thing is fake and gaya scapegoat for the economic collapse everyone knew was coming for the last 20 years. Oh, man that AI ate your retirement account. shucks dude.
>>537753031There was an easy way around this.It was to sell "consumers" their own AI processing machine and link them all in a decentralized fashion in a network INSTEAD of building massive Data Centers.They only did that because they want to OWN the means of production. But they could have just sold networked processing nodes in the form of a machine to "consumers".
>>537753666It's the same concept as building your own crypto mining rig back in the day. Except AI specific hardware.
>>537753031No one will buy a claude sub when you can just swap services or use a local model.
>>537753666>>537753731In other words YOU (the machine owner) get paid when someone on the network needs AI work done.That's obviously why these corporations built Data Centers instead but actually they could have just taken network fees off the top if they wanted.
>>537753520>mining>electricity>inventing new computers>training robotsThat's where the money goes. Pick between whites going extinct and robots.
>>537753031Why don't you make yourself useful instead of bitching about the economy as if it owes you something?Regarding AI, how about you fucking use it and tap into some of its insane levels of potential to change your life? They are spending all of this money on it and letting you use it for free. If this how you show your appreciation then you are destined to be a failure in life no matter what you do.
>>537753666>>537753731>>537753794In fact of course this already exists, there are decentralized AI GPU networks right now. But the models suck and OpenAI/Anthropic dare not release theirs open source or their Data Centers become WORTHLESS overnight.
>>537753031maybe they should make and sell something profitable to fund their venture?
>>537753247He looks like a goddamn cartoon character
>>537753866Now the funny part is IF any open source model does equal or exceed their closed models their Data Centers ARE worthless overnight and that will be hilarious and has a high chance of happening soon.But if you think they won't fight back you are naive, the government didn't give them billions of dollars for them to fail. The government wants this and will do whatever illegalizing it takes to make it happen.
I am SINGLE HANDEDLY saving this economy because I have about $13k available in my margin acct and the second I use a penny of that money they ALWAYS crash the market for months without fail.
>>537753954So I almost predict that the US Government will make open source AI models illegal for "national security" and require ALL models to use "safeguards" which render it practically useless.
>>537753031This has nothing to do with economic collapse.What he is alluding to is that eventually AI tools will become pay as you use rather than free or even subscription based. Similar to how the AI companies pay the datacenter companies. When you send a query to Claude, Anthropic is paying the datacenter/cloud company who owns the GPUs for the amount of time the GPUs are running, so the payments will become more aligned with that setup.
>>537754009And then sometime after that they will usher in our worldwide global AI enslavement matrix including drones that just kill you, piloted by AI, if you make a wrongthink social media post. That's probably 20 years from now though.
>>537753520>i don't understand where all the money goes?>why would they need all that money for?These AI companies have little regarding intelligence.First the models are trained based on data that is produced by secondary companies using unemployed labour in the first and third world, that need money.Running those dense trillion parameters brute force models is compute heavy, every query you make to ask them shitty questions makes them bleed money.America does not have AI accelerator technology, they are using GPU with NVidia CUDA cores, CUDA cores were made to do real time video pipelines not AI calculations.DataCenter infrastructure is expensive, manteinance is expensive, operation is expensive.GPUs have an operational life in those datacenters of 2 years before being replaced due to damage, add that to the manteinance cost.Modern "frontier" models do backend thinking, meaning that they make the same token calculation multiple times and then have to check which token is better, so modern models like Fable 5 are just doing 6 to 8 times more compute for a result that could be comparable to a deepseek flash query.While it looks like an economic lunacy, in sillicon valley they developed the Scaling Law, a sort of techno infallible dogma that states that it does not matter the performance or architecture or costs, AI companies should by all means just invest in more parameters, more text ( regardless of quality ) and more compute, so they believe that if they stick to this Scaling Law they will soon create an AGI god that in turn will code for an ASI so the synagogue of Sillicon Valley will rule the world with their ASI.Its an outright lunacy what these people are thinking, but the amount of waste in this clown world buffoonery is not explainable by other means, the other is that everything is a front to embezzle investors money and everything is going to some offshore account in the caribean.
>>537753031The longer this keeps limping along the worse the actual crash is going to be. We've just been shoveling money into a fire pit for 6 years now 6 years of no real economic growth. The GDP is technically going up but the GDP doesn't represent anything real like the exchange of goods and services anymore. We haven't built anything real. The only people who will make money off this will be the billionaires at the very top who actually benefit from the economy crashing.
>polymorphic orthogonality
>>537753799i think they are just throwing money and and use the public hype to pretend they need morethe only valid spending is the energy costshundred of billions of revenue is unreal
Entire market and future development based entirely on FOMO.Trying to force AI to be profitable in the hopes that it'll be as important as the internet is putting the cart before the horse, but the fact that it's being done on such a global scale is something I can't fathom.>b-but people also called the internet and mobile phones and other stuff gay in its infancy!Computers, the internet, mobile communication devices all had established uses before they were adopted for public use. AI has some uses, but no where near enough to justify the time, money and resources going into it. I need a mobile phone, I need the internet - I don't need a Claude subscription. They're well aware of this fact, so now they have a solution without a problem. I fully expect the PC space to be completely compromised (subscription for cloud PCs with AI integration or something). None of this is making sense
>>537753031I hope they all go belly up
>>537753426only even bigger retards think that AI is going to be used for anything altruistic.
>>537753031Bail out bail out bail out. Too big to fail. Bail em out boys
>>537753031They think they discovered a way to make a silicon-based lifeform, the holy grail of life. They're going to try whatever it takes to make this happen, because they believe that this silicon-based lifeform is the next evolution of life. They want to combine AI with quantum computing. To make a powerful new godlike lifeform.
>>537754527>I need a mobile phone, I need the internet - I don't need a Claude subscription.This is what outrages me most, we dont need the Kosher Fable 5 Wunderintelligenz model, yet these Sillicon Valley Billionares have plans to force us these Subscription schemes on the consumer and some of them are outright talking about making PERSONAL computers obsolete, no wonder computer hardware just doubled in the last month a 3090 is selling on average around 3000 here.
>>537754974>around 3000 USD here.
>>537753283>the free market you billionaire kikes love so muchYou socialist faggots still don't get it. Sam Altman is not a free market guy, he's a government redistributionist grifter just like you.
>>537753031The reason why the voluminous deficits don't matter is because the currency is backed by nothing but military force and the ability to fuck with the economies of other countries.
>>537753608>Due to massive inflation, economies dont collapse with inflation, what happens is that the wealth is siphoned from the working class to the wealthy, you can keep this up for decadesYep. We have been crashing for the past 20 years. It's just a "line go up" crash instead of a "line go down" crash. When the USA balkanizes and the BSA (the Based States of America) forms, we will not allow such things to happen
>>537753031They're not even hiding the robbing of us anymore. ;(>Why won't this economy just fucking collapse already?we lost, they've been setting up their systems for awhile now, playing the long game and using their golem army they form after ww2 and McCarthy going down
>>537754527yes the pc space is completely compromised here in NYC they are already testing what i call "Matrix's" with fake headlines from your "trusted" news sources fake outrage (like what we saw in 2016 with 4chan) and ofc AI chat bots :) But i have the secret sauce i know how to determine what's AI and what's not. of course it will be patched butttt in the meantime. Enjoy you local goygames :D
>>537755117That is oversimplifying things. The US still produces an awful lot of things. Other countries still want to sell their surplus here. This means people need/want dollars. It really is that simple. And no, the deficit does not matter and will never matter because governments are not households or businesses.
>>537753031when was there ever any indication of a bubble other than retards and trannie seething?
>>537753031Wait ai is too dumb to make money.Say it ain't so.
>>537753426What value have LLMs added to society?
>>537755363>when was there ever any indication of a bubble other than retards and trannie seething?The jew in chief at anthropic saying they need hundres of billions to avoid a massive erasure of wealth due to bankruptcy?Who pays for the debt and reimburse the investors when the Jew in Chief at Anthropic fails to deliver the AGI he promises every two months?
>>537755117lol. lmao.too bad the orange nigger just blew all that right out of the water, right in the hormussy.
>>537753426Everyone could already be a programmer. It just took some education and some work, which is why they got paid well. When everyone can vibecode there's no need for a company to hire 10 $100,000 coders, they'll hire one $200,000 experienced developer and 9 $30,000 vibecode monkeys. And then in 30 years or so when the last developer who knew how things actually worked retires they'll look around at the huge ignorant masses of prompt engineers they hired and train with no other skills that engineering prompts and say "well, fuck. shit. now what".
>>537755648>What value have LLMs added to society?LLMs add value to pipelines, improve coding quality and help to ease burn-out fatigue, also quickens the process of bug tracking and reading documentation.The problem is why the consumers must pay by suffering a hardware scarcity because these billionares refuse to improve the performance of their retarded models so they hoard anything with a logic gate for their uber Datacenters, LLM intelligence is showing signs of having peaked already, benchmarks are being manipulated artificially or forced by bankend shenanigans, meanwhile opensource models are moving away from the Sillicon Valley Scaling law.
>>537754490Imagine making that much and still looking like a total virgin. I bet he never got laid until he hired that mid Silicon Valley whore
>>537753031Because wealthy boomers are doing great and their hugely overvalued assets allow them to buy large amounts of stock and assets that protect them from inflation. Until they start feeling pain the economy will trudge on
>>537753031This is the global economy now
>>537753031It will. In the meantime imma jus spend all this fiat funny munny on hoes and weed.
>>537753031>another thread exposing 4chan's illiteracy of basic concepts in economics, including: profit, revenue, and expenses
>>537753247>>537753943smart people are uglythis surprising for you lil chuddies?tesla died as mgtow virgin incel
>>537753247>>537753943Stop being antisemitic
>>537756123>because these billionares refuse to improve the performance of their retarded modelsThey have improved efficiency significantly though, even recently.This obviously doesn't mean they'll stop buying up chips, because that's not how corporations work. It just means they'll be able to do more with the chips they buy up. Maybe the average user will get more tokens, or better agents for the same price. Or maybe they'll just bank the extra efficiency.
>>537756179>Imagine making that much and still looking like a total virgin. I bet he never got laid until he hired that mid Silicon Valley whoreWhat is even worse is that Meta is a broken company, their Llama model was overhyped ( it was horrible ), Llama 4 was a disaster and now they are trying to create another Anthropic like closed-source and subscription based Wunderintelligenz model, Meta is just burning money because they got expelled from the LLM market most likely that virgin retard in the photo told Zuckerberg that he could reach AGI doing more brute force, a jew jewing a jew that jews another jews.
>jew says if you don't print me infinitey dollars we'll lose to CHINER!!oh no!here's your infinitey dollars Mr. CEO Shekelberg!
>>537753031https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8TCxtl1qwEWhy do governments allow mass shootings to happen? Potential domestic terrorists exist among us at this very moment. There are deranged individuals screaming on the Internet they are going to "fucking snap" and "commit a mass shooting right now". The FBI knows full well these people exist and refuses to prosecute them. Do governments not exist to protect their citizens? Do governments actually want these sick people to follow through with their terroristic threats? None of this makes any sense.
when you realize Anthropic's logo looks like a butthole
>>537753031Lol
>>537756521>They have improved efficiency significantly though, even recently.If they had improved efficiency then they would not have made all Sillicon Valley LLM subscription more expensive. Deepseek pro costs a fraction of the best claude models and do the same job, economics dont make sense, everything is hype and FOMO. Even worse you can do the same job with deepseek flash spending just cents.In any case I dont care about Judeo-American money burning parties I just want to buy affordable hardware.
The economy is a self organizing system that starts from the bottom up. The only thing that is going to collapse is the fiat credit bubble that pulled artificial demand into the present. There is always an economy whether you are commuting to a corporate office job in the city or trading a tin of peas for a quarter ounce of silver in a post apocalypse wasteland. The market continues.
google say that guy is "Italian-american" but he looks jewish, makes no sense.
>>537753031>Why won't this economy just fucking collapse already?because it's all a big scam to keep parasitic kikes in power, you forgot the main reason for the last WW?
>>537757080You need to do a DNA test. Mist Mexicans are part jew.
>>537756464Tesla was a handsome Chad
>>537757001>If they had improved efficiency then they would not have made all Sillicon Valley LLM subscription more expensive.Why not? Are you under the impression that tech corporations aren't trying to make more money?
>>537757166keep protecting if that's makes you feel any better, I'm 100% Amerindian.
>>537753352>might
>>537753235>industrial revolution In what exactly? Like what is any of this ai actually doing? Other than slop "art" and literally bullshit on social media and utube?Oh and garbage papers and helping jeets scam old people. What's it actually producing?
>>537758773I use it for programming, just like millions of people just like me. This thread is full of literal retards.
>>537753031AI bailouts, FUXK NO.
>>537753031USAID?
>>537758860So nothing then..Its basically niche at best.Gotcha
>>537757375>Now, Amazon founder Jeff Bezos predicts that subscription-based cloud services will soon replace the traditional personal computers we all rely on in daily life. Yest MIGHThttps://tech.yahoo.com/ai/articles/jeff-bezos-makes-brash-statement-180000257.htmlNVidia and AMD are already releasing gaming console like mini-pcs... instead of giving us the hardware they want consumers to buy their "gaming consoles" and pay for subscription services on hardware that lasts 2 years minimum.When are we going to declare war on GDI? we are needing some peace through power.
>>537753031Tell this nigger I hope he goes bankrupt. The he should be dragged on the front lawn of his mansion and beheaded over livestream
