When will it happen and are you prepared for WW3 breaking out over this anon?You still have time to prepare for the inevitable.
>>537759239SHOW ME YOUR CHINESE INVASION FACES /POL/ SISTERS!!!!
not happening ever lolchinks can't into ships and planes
>>537759239>>537759259Can’t wait to watch china continue to get raped
>>537759239It's too costly. Chinks won't bother.
>>537759239>When will it happen and are you prepared for WW3 breaking out over this anon?If we cant even beat Iran, what chance do we even have with China?
It will be hilarious to watch the Chinese army, which has not fought a war in generations, try to collaborate with the Chinese navy, an institution which China has absolutely no military tradition in its 4000 years of history, to launch an amphibious invasion, the most logistically complex category of military action, against the world's most advanced naval power on earth. I am sure it will go well.
>>537759239they can have it lol. the US can't do shit about it either.
>>537759374Besides having a fleet permanently stationed around it, and several bases nearby to reinforce the island, yeah they can't do shit. China having absolutely no experience in either large scale naval combat or amphibious assaults is not a basis for confidence in this matter.
>>537759239If Chinese leadership is wise, they will see how the other major powers' regional conflicts are going and avoid befalling a similar fate. Taiwan is a much stronger opponent than Ukraine and Iran combined.
>>537759239an amphibious invasion of this size in the modern day is impossible. best they can do is blockade or bomb the island into submission and hope america doesn't get involved. btw any of this would completely crash the world economy.
>>537759417we had bases all around Iran and they didn't do shit, did they?
>>537759333Chinese lives don't matter to the Chinese. People will still keep buying Chinese, they essentially have unlimited funds to take Taiwan.The American Empire is dying, and now is the perfect time for China to exploit this opportunity now that the United States cannot defend its interests in East Asia.Iran is a piss poor country, and yet they defeated the American Empire.Taiwan is an island as well, all China needs to do is starve it out and do what Russia is doing except a ground invasion at the very start.The Chinese has their vassal North Korea as well, so if the United States decides to intervene, they can just tell North Korea that it is time for them to take the South, stretching American forces across East Asia, and thinning out the severely limited resources the United States has.China's invasion of Taiwan will be but a small price for them to pay to retake the island.
>>537759336The US almost totally destroyed Iran's navy, and this would be a conflict between naval forces for the most part. The part that didn't go well was the US pelting the Iranian mountain range with bombs trying to destroy their missile, drone, and rocket platforms to degrade their ability to attack ships in the strait. It wasn't a cost-effective strategy. What damage was done, wasn't enough to justify the continued expense of that part of the operation. Since bombing didn't work, and ground-invasion was off the table, and the Iranians basically had no more navy to destroy, there wasn't a lot of effective action for the military to take, so continued military action would be pointless. It's why the entire venture was a bad idea from the start, basically a kind of Bay of Pigs fiasco chalked up to acting on bad intelligence.
>>537759239>When will it happenprobably never.china is a massive attack surface.they have 0 allies.the moment china makes a move their neighbours will suddenly remind them that the previously resolved territorial disputes aren't so resolved.
There will never be an invasion. There will be a liberation of the Taiwanese people from opressive and corrupt Western rule. Its gonna be a RESCUE mission.
>>537759365>Drone and missile military with observers in the two modern conflicts on the winning side probably doesn't know how to fight a wark>Amphibious invasionTaiwan depends on China for food. China's air force, missile force, and coast guard can embargo the island. There's no reason that China would launch an amphibious human wave under fire. They can literally just alpha-strike Taiwan with missiles and have air, drone, and naval supremacy within the day. And then they can just wait for capitulation without putting a foot on. America's navy can win any blue water fight and no coastal fights. Chinese speedboat spam and missile supremacy means America's navy can't even approach, just like we've seen in Iran. The US Navy cannot enter a straight and fight speedboats, and cannot come within missile range safely.
>>537759545Remind me how the scenarios are similar again? We had bases around Iran which were staging points for bombing the country... which we did. The bases around Taiwan are meant to reinforce the country if it's invaded. Which would be over sea, not attacking heavily fortified mountain bases. The US already proved it's extremely effective at destroying naval vessels.
>>537759239enjoy starving, chinks
>>537759627>Drone and missile military with observersCalling China any kind of military is stretching it. They have no experience. Their soldiers have never been to war, their commanders have never led in war, their logistics systems have never been stress tested by actual conflict. Until you actually fight a war, you're not any kind of military. China "observes" but never takes part. That is to their lasting detriment as a military power.
>>537759239We're not fighting China for Taiwan. Our military can't take Kharg island. The Navy can't hold a strait a couple miles wide. How do we hold an island like Taiwan?
>>537759627These countries would rather preserve infrastructure than destroy everything and rebuild.
Considering how deeply ingrained US politicians (working on bioweapons in China/politicians married to Chinese spies) and corporations are with China (everything is made there) neither side is going to do anything and it's all a distraction for warmongering retards. Your quality of life would immediately collapse far worse than the war with Iran.
I want China to balkanize. I wish the same for America, Russia, Brazil, Canada, Australia and honestly every single country bigger than fucking Denmark.
>>537759417>Besides having a fleet permanently stationed around it, and several bases nearby to reinforce the islandAmerica wasn't able to do this to Iran. What makes you think the US Navy can engage in hostilities in the Taiwan strait? The first week against Iran, America caught missiles at all of its bases in the region and lost them all. Why would the US fare better against China's 10x larger missile inventory now that all of the AD in the SEA theater was removed?
>>537759417>China having absolutely no experience in either large scale naval combatChina has extensive experience in Coast Guard operations inside the Taiwan strait and firing missiles. Taiwan and its waters are entirely within missile range. America's navy cannot approach the theater of combat, just like it can't approach Iran and couldn't approach Yemen.
>>537759365>an amphibious invasionhere's a lil' sneak peek for ya'
>>537759691>their commanders have never led in warnot to mention the recent 'reshuffle'. picrel
>>537759239Next dem presidency for sure.
>>537759749>all of america's bases in the gulf were destroyed/pig/gers are delusional
>>537759639>Remind me how the scenarios are similar again?Both sets of bases are within missile and aircraft range of a vastly superior enemy. The major difference is that the Iran conflict had well supplied missile defenses, and the SEA theater now has none, because they were all sent to the Middle East and depleted or destroyed.>We had bases around Iran which were staging points for bombing the country... which we did.They were destroyed, halting the tempo of America's bombing campaign. American bombers now have to sortie from the UK. The air campaign was defeated by Iranian missiles, and now the bases are gone and the US can no longer bomb Iran at a sufficient tempo to accomplish anything, and Iran's missile force and navy are still fully capable of destroying their enemies and defending their land and waters.>The bases around Taiwan are meant to reinforce the country if it's invaded.China has conducted five encirclements of Taiwan as part of exercises. The bases were unable to stop them. All of those bases will be destroyed by missile fire if America attempts hostilities, which it won't because Donald Trump already gave up the theater publicly because he doesn't want Xi to destroy America's bases.>They have no experience. Their soldiers have never been to warThey have observers in Ukraine and Iran conflicts, on the winning sides. They're not as experienced as the Russian and Ukrainian militaries, so they're only the third most experienced military on the Earth right now.>their logistics systems have never been stress tested by actual conflict.Yes they have, in the current Iran conflict. Their oil logistics are unimpeded because America's navy can't afford a fight against China's civilian fleets. A chinese military surveilance vessel followed the US Navy and provided guidance to Iran for the whole conflict, and America did nothing because it cannot fight a naval conflict against China. America cannot survive a mere trade war agaisnt China.
>>537759732>neither side is going to do anythingYou've listed the ways America needs China. China is ramping its food production, and then it will have no need for America.
>>537760073>/pig/gers are delusionalExplain why the US 5th fleet was deleted and reorganized into other fleets. Where are the THAAD radars? Why is the US sortieing bombing runs from the UK instead of from the Gulf States like they were at the beginning of the war? Why did the US suddenly in a panic request access to Europe's bases and airspace after a week? Why did the tempo of bombing trickle to a stop without accomplishing anything?
>>537760205China would completely collapse and go back into civil war (it's natural state) if America ever stopped supporting China.
>>537760807>if America ever stopped supporting China.China currently has a large exposure to America in the form of importing American food. China can mobilize its economy to increase domestic production, offload population to African colonies for development, and lean more heavily on Russia after the conflict around Crimea's region is stabilized. America doesn't "support" China, it's just a trading partner. China is consciously aware of the liability this poses, and has been reducing its exposure to markets in hostile nations. If Donald Trump could damage China by withholding benevolence, he'd be doing it. The current situation is that Xi can move Japan and the USA's policy toward China by merely issuing travel advisories.
>>537759583I like the way you think, but might I rebuttal saying that there really is no immediate urgency for China to invade Taiwan as America will only continue to downtrend over the next century. It's not like they are aiming for a window that will be closing soon. As you said, they make a ton of money now from everyone buying Chinese and they are still growing faster than everyone else.Best strategy for them is to continue doing absolutely nothing and completely winning.
>>537760807>China would completely collapseMutts are 200% brain damaged.
>>537759733>I want China to balkanize. I wish the same for America, Russia, Brazil, Canada, AustraliaCreating a new era of small baronies who wages constant war against each other?It's a terrible idea.What China has now is peaceful unity across its land, where the mongols are no longer a reaiding threat, where the Dutch only occasionally provoke them with war, but never outright invade.This is unprecedented in China's history.
>>537759239It will never happen because Chinese never ever do flashy things, they just care about trade and world domination through commerce.
>>537760205Nigger you're retarded and clearly dont know how the world works. China depends on us to buy their shitty things >>537763353That's a retarded fucking lie lmao. They behave exactly like a nation that does. They even fish in other nations waters
>>537763549>They behave exactly like a nation that does.China is the only country in the world who is trying to mass produce fish in their inland deserts.While you are screeching out memes on the internet, they are solution oriented.
>>537760998Huge doubt. You think the US government is completely unaware of this? Both sides are 3 steps ahead and they feed you false information to keep you off the track. They completely rely on each other, which is why a war over Taiwan will never happen.
>>537759259Methinks that's a gook not a chink.
>>537763813>Huge doubt. You think the US government is completely unaware of this?What can you do even if you are aware?Cry and Beg China toimport more of your soibeans?What steps are possible for you to make China even more dependent on you?
>>537763968>What steps are possible for you to make China even more dependent on you?The goal would be to completely disconnect from China like Japan used to be but there are too many traitorous corporations that value profits over nation and retard Daiso consumers that buy cheap Chinese garbage. Japan will never go to war with China, and vice versa, because of this btw.
>>537764294>The goal would be to completely disconnect from ChinaBut then why did Trump repeatedly beg China to buy his soibeans?If China no longer need you for food, then they are no longer dependent on you.
>>537759239>Whenthings happen during an 'exercise'.
China doesn't do wars. They don't think like Amerieuros.
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>>537759429>Taiwan is a much stronger opponent than Ukraine and Iran combined.lol
>>537759691>They have no experience. Their soldiers have never been to war,and with all of those experience you lost in afghanistan, yemen, iran. dumb yankie.
>>537759239>WW3nobody in the west will fight in that war, so it's never going to happen
>>537764822>American lostit's scriptYou guys are just too weak. Back during the Taiwan War, the US-backed side had such an overwhelming advantage that we actually had to supply the Chinese side with radar and various other weapons. The US was letting you win, you morons.
>>537763549>China depends on us to buy their shitty thingsChina's middle class is larger than America's now. Exports as a share of their GDP plummeted like 10 percentage points this year despite exports growing. They intentionally set a plan to do so and it's working. Now that the Petro-dollar is becoming the petro-yuan, this will only accelerate.>dont know how the world worksYou're right about how the world worked. I'm right about how it works.>>537763813>You think the US government is completely unaware of this?No. America's awareness of the situation was clearly demonstrated when Donald Trump publicly stated that America won't interfere in Taiwan. Japan's awareness was demosntrated when Takeichi walked back her rhetoric because Xi was able to fuck Japan's finances for a year by issuing a travel advisory.>a war over Taiwan will never happen.This is true>They completely rely on each otherChina publicly stated that they see this as a vulnerability, which it is. China publicly stated that they are removing this vulnerability. China has in fact make huge strides in removing this vulnerability. One thing they haven't done yet is switch food suppliers. That will be a difficult step. They consciously are aware of the necessity of this step. They are capable of making it happen. But it's such a difficult and out of the way thing to do that if they do it, it's a clear sign that they're preparing for war with America.>>537764294>The goal would be to completely disconnect from China like Japan used to be but there are too many traitorous corporations that value profits over nationJapan's financial situation depends on tourism from China's middle and upper class. It's not even a corporation issue, it's a tax income issue. Chinese elites want to have a nice place to vacation to, and Japan is a nice place they can vacation to. All Japan has to do is not be hostile to China, and there will be profitable cooperation.
>>537765241>No. America's awareness of the situation was clearly demonstrated when Donald Trump publicly stated that America won't interfere in Taiwan. Japan's awareness was demosntrated when Takeichi walked back her rhetoric because Xi was able to fuck Japan's finances for a year by issuing a travel advisory.Come on, man. You still believe this? It's all theatre.
>>537759239Xi Jinping fears Sanae Takaichi.So China cannot do anythings.
>>537759239Do nothing, and win.Do better economy, let the Western Alliance crack itself like the opportunistic vultures they always have been>>537764294Such a clueless bravado but let's be real, the only serious industry you have now is Toyota alone and it is even caught up in lightning speed by the Chinese EV. The top old ass gas vehicles revenue, sure but it is clearly a gilded cage, typical short-term profit in exchange for the future, falling behind in the digital era, just like all of your industries now. Keep worshiping your Takaichi and LDP which was created by CIA, you basically bet all-in to JewMerica and the reckoning is coming after all the years post-WW2 order, unapologetic fascist Island.
>>537759239I will turn 360 degrees and walk away
>>537759239Taiwan numba 1. I wish they would go after korea instead desu senpai
>>537759733America is already balkanized via states rights. Im originally a caliwali refugee who fled to arizona which is great. Currently in tejass for work and I feel like im behind enemy lines in this all queer no steer oppressive shithole. The only other state i would consider if arizona goes to shit is rural nevada.
>>537759239>are you prepared for WW3yes! my popcorn is ready
there's no need for an invasion. KMT is already gaining ground in Taiwan and projected to do very well in the upcoming elections in November. more than likely Taiwan will become like Hong Kong or Macau soon, a part of China on paper but with special economic privileges
>>537759239Wonder how the chink sailors will feel as they just see wave of wave of ships sink.
>>537759239Ok fuck off short answer. China has a lot of shit.Most of it is actually shit.Very little is nice shit.They know if they start some shit we have a list of all there nice shit and that we will break it.Chine is smart enough to know they will lose all the nice things they have if they start this.
the deals already been done. china gets taiwan and the us gets cuba. just gotta wait a while for iran to cool down before that show begins. there wont be any fighting.
It wont happen, or better yet, there is a 1% chance it happens, if muttmerica manages to coup Taiwan government and install suicidal muttmerica worshippers in power. Taiwan will simply naturally rejoin China slowly and methodically, like Hong Kong is. It will be a multi decade long process, but it will definitely happen. If somehow war happens, it wont be a D-Day style war, it will start with months of UN security council resolutions, calls for going back to status quo, threats, behind the scenes negotiations, then China will strike one day with a missile and drone barrage, cyberattacks, air strikes... Then it will impose a blockade. Taiwan will resist for a few weeks, hoping for mutts to rescue them, but mutts will betray them. Neighboring nations will not like it, but wont do anything about it
>>537769376this. itll be taiwan SAR after the election
>>537769549Even if that is true, China is far more powerful than Iran is, and Iran forced your navy to be over 500 km away from Iran shores. There is nothing you can do to stop China. If you start a actual economic war you will lose
>>537769440Given how lopsided the capabilities are in favour of China and how close Taiwan is to the latter, I’m pretty sure it will be the Chinese causing the sinking instead.
>>537770323Taiwan doesn't need to cross.Strait's closed, invasion is impossible. China need to either blockade and bomb them into submission and pray Three Gorges survives, or just go straight to nuking them into submission.
>>537759239For the hundredth time, either in April or October.
they can't even take an islet that's right next to the chink shore
>>537772530Thing is, the Chinese don't have to cross until they level everything on the island from their side of the strait, from land. And no, you would need at least a nuke to take out that dam which is quite deep in China and defended by layers upon layers of IADS, not to mention their air force which will likely be functional and outnumber a hypothetical coalition, given the tyranny of distance and the fact that there are barely any hardened air bases in surrounding countries and carriers would have to operate well past the second island chain to keep out of range of their rocket force.
>>537759239Word is it got cancelled, again, remember those recent purges in the Chinese military? Turns out some of their corrupt officials were siphoning off strategic oil reserves which were mission crucial for the planned invasion and now China doesn't have the resources to actually invade, especially after Hormuz being closed down and Russia having all their refineries being blown up. So now they have to wait for oil prices to stabilize, again, and refill their reserves, again. Sucks being a country so dependent on foreign oil, couldn't be me.
>>537769376Extremely delusion thinking.
>>537769619>Taiwan will simply naturally rejoin China slowly and methodically, like Hong Kong is. It will be a multi decade long process, but it will definitely happen.Where do you guys come up with this shit lol? It’s like you’re reading a script. Taiwan is very literally further away from China than it’s ever been since 1945. Current President William Lai says he’s not Chinese and Taiwan isn’t Chinese. Not just not part of the PRC but not part of sino-civilization in any capacity.
>>537764772I fail to see what is so funny.
>>537776849>>537777035>mutt thinking he knows anythingAmusing.
>>537778640Its no slouch and any invasion will be incredibly costly and difficult, but I fail to see how you can rate it as stronger than both combined.
>>537759239Never gonna happen there is literally almost any reason to conquer it since they can wait a generation swap to the pussylet generation who will offer the island for some prostitutes
>>537759239Why would China honestly invade? Even if they were to eventually capture Taiwan, it would be all over the internet. 4k footage of Chinese men just dying on the beach. Getting droned, shelled, shot and blown up. Absolute fucking carnage for the world to watch.China is right now the top main super power with Trump driving America into the ground and blowing up diplomatic relations. China is the manufacturing king, it's prosperity for the people is growing, they have rapidly modernised. They are at the top. Why risk it for Taiwan when you can simply use diplomatic pressure and cultural exchange to take over peacefully and passively? You won't even lose good will from the international community. Russia is dependent on China, same for NK, the EU is reliant also on China and is also sturggling balance between the US as an ally, and reliance on China. China has won. Taking Taiwan through force will be a painful victory. At the same time, drone warfare has completely changed war forever so it may be even less painful actually.
>>537779561Shut up retard
>>537759239Not European problem....you are alone with this...or you could ask Korea or Japan to help you.
>>537780468Eat more goyslop, buddy.
>>537781136Kill yourself
>>537759239Yankikes can do nothing.
>>537781169Look at this little barely 50 kg fucktoy.
>>537759239nobody can make the same chips as taiwan so they literally cant invade, interrupting their chip production would be suicidal
>>537759239It already happened in 1949.
>>537759239I wish China would invade me and get rid of the evil American faggot empire
>>537759365Niggerjew, you can't win against Iran or Vietnam and you couldn't defeat China when it was an army of peasants.You will have no navy btw
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The chinks would lose many thousands of "people" and hundreds of billions from the economic fallout. Instead they're going to pull a Hong Kong. The military is only there to apply pressure, not actually do anything (other than running into eachother and trolling Australian divers).
>>537781523Isnt that the Singapoorean pedo?
>>537759365Americas navy has been neglected for a long time due to an overreliance on nukes and dollarized inflationary tributes by politicians. US naval logistics are in tatters, and the US navy as a whole is anemic compared to what it has been tasked to do, and what size it ought to be on top of that.The US should have a doctrine as the UK did: have an absurdly sized navy to ensure nobody can take it on. This way you control shipping and so the world economy. The current navy logistics arm is mostly private vessels and crews, and as we’ve seen incapable of sustaining force projection. There’s also nowhere near enough escort vessels of all sizes.I estimate the military budget should be 2-3 trillion/year. Achievable once you abolish state welfare/healthcare/pensions.
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>>537781621No you’re thinking of Amos Yee lol
>>537782033>I estimate the military budget should be 2-3 trillion/year. Achievable once you abolish state welfare/healthcare/pensions.Is this a polite way of saying it will never happen
>>537759239I thought for sure it was going to happen in March/April 2022 when Russia was rampaging all over Ukraine. Despite the entire U.S. military supposedly being designed to be able to fight a two-front war, one in Europe and the other in Asia, to contain Russia and China, we've seen this year just how laughable U.S. military capabilities are against what should have been a minor adversary.But then Ukraine miraculously managed to hold off the fucking retarded Russians, and even to regain almost a third of their invaded territory when Russia's Kharkiv front collapsed. Not even mentioning all the "goodwill gestures" when Russia's 42-mile convoy got destroyed and so on.China saw what a complete shitshow an actual invasion of even a weak unprepared country was, and especially given this year's events I think China will reconsider their whole glorious military conquest plan.They'll likely continue to try to subvert Taiwan's politicians, as they did in the 2020 Taiwan election where the KMT candidate was caught taking an absolute shitload of Chinese money for his campaign, which is how he went from being neck-and-neck with Tsai to the most humiliating election defeat the KMT has ever suffered. 2024 wasn't even a contest. And the other Chinese proxy, Mayor Ko, ended up getting prosecuted over his shit, I haven't looked to see if he got convicted or it's still ongoing or what.
>>537781169>Republic of ChinaI know Americans are literal ESLs and can't read basic english but holy.
>>537759239it will happen the moment USA overextends.the reason USA didn't completely crush Iran is because it would have left Taiwan free for the taking.USA has to play the next few years very carefully.
>>537759597>It's why the entire venture was a bad idea from the start, basically a kind of Bay of Pigs fiasco chalked up to acting because the fucking Jews demanded itfixed
>>537782444Ukraine isn't an island and is fully backed by the EU and US.Taiwan itself depends on the Mainland for food and resources.Why do you think the US has to order and depend on Flipland and Japan to issue threats? They're at the opposite side of the world.
>>537759239China already has like 60% popular opinion with Taiwanese. Them invading taiwan is a cope by america and excuse for them to being in a pacific. Its the equivalent of a somalian saying he needs to be in sweden to fuck svens wife cuz he may hit her or something maynnn, utterly retarded.
>>537782444>military conquest plan.China has a peaceful reunification plan since 1988You're retarded, brainwashed and psyopped>To subvert Taiwanese politiciansYou mean un-subvert
>>537782593>USA didn't completely crush IranWhat a way to say "lost the war"
>>537759545>we had bases all aroundthey are still there, they just got remodeled.
>>537782908semantics. stop pretending to not understand what is being said.
>>537759365you lost to Iran, a country with a tiny fraction of China's assets. How are you going to fight them? Your bases will be smoking craters on the earth's surface, your carriers will stay a thousand miles away or they get wrecked. Your missile stocks are depleted and were totally ineffective against hypersonic missiles anyway.
>>537759239Won't happen simply because it's easier to wait for Taiwan to die off on its own.But also, even if it did happen, America wouldn't do anything. Trump is on good terms with Xi and has been pretty open about how much he favors China compared to the rest of SEA, including Taiwan.
>>537783151US would send Pinoys and Japs to die.
>>537782530Taiwan is forced to call itself the Republic of China by China you retarded VPNigger.Actually formally changing the name to Republic of Taiwan would be viewed as a step toward declaring independence and would upset China.You know literally nothing. Never post anything in this website ever again. https://www.taiwandc.org/feer-2003-01.htm
>>537759333yep they will copy us style softpower politics, they are allrdy gaining influence all over asia and the US can do very little about that.
>>537782798> China already has like 60% popular opinion with Taiwanese.No they do not. What is the purpose of this counter-reality nonsense? Do you think saying it will make it true?
>>537759239>Chinese Invasion of TaiwanKEKain't gonna happenTaiwan makes ~50 naval drones a month by nowadditionally they have one of the largest anti ship torpedo and cruise missile stocks in the worldand enough sea mines in storage to block every viable landing siteit's very easy for modern economies / militaries to defend an island against ground invasionthe only thing China can reasonably do is go scorched earth and terror bomb everythingbut there's no real reason to do sorealisticallythey could also do a naval blockade and hope they surrenderbut that would hit the world economy and therefore their own exports massively
>>537783037No.They lost the war because they are a shadow of their former self and they were never what they were cracked up to beThey would happily give up Asia for Pissrael, they took THAADs from Korea and shit and it didn't help
>>537759336/thread. The US is not intervening in a Chinese invasion of Taiwan - because they can't. It's all bluster and talk.
>>537759597>Irans navy =/= Chinas navyChina produced more ships in 1 year than the entire US navy has. It isn't a peer to peer naval battle anymore. The US can't replace its losses.
>>537782845>You mean un-subvertThe overwhelming majority of Taiwanese people don’t wish to be Chinese. Why is is this too complicated for you to wrap your mind around?
>>537759239It will be a nothingburger.China will have gained parity with US by then.US will withdraw because other whites (NATO) won't care. Japan/SoKo will seethe, but that will be all they'll be able to do.It's inevitable, sometime in near future.
>>537759239Taiwan will reunify culturally, not through war. Same as Hong Kong.
>>537785585They literally are ChineseIt's like saying you don't want to be white and thinking you're not subverted (you're brown but you get the point)
>>537785791The only way for China to gain parity with the US is if China declines
>>537785881No you clueless double digit IQ retard. It is not like that at all. White is a skin color. White is a race. It’s a tangible characteristic.“Chinese” is an artificial national identity imposed on a billion and half diverse people. Like being Yugoslavian. Or European. It’s just an idea. One that most Taiwanese people today reject.
>>537759239The KMT are probably going to win the next election and deepen economic integration with China. The CCP gambit that Taiwan will fall into their orbit is essentially correct and they don't have to do anything.
>>537759239Just do it and get it over with. Fucking chinks always spend so much time teasing and then chink out on the actual sucking. It's why chink hookers are a scam. You gotta fucking go all in, to the balls, like Russia did in Ukraine. Yeah, the ziggers gagged and threw up and pissed and shit themselves but at least they went balls deep. I respect that. It's more than I can say for the chinks. Xi is just panting hard and maybe doing the occasional tongue flick but won't put it in his mouth.
>>537785959Nice meme but militarily US is still top dog.No other nation can project force across the planet, they're unmatched.Remind me when was the last time when US fought a war, battle, even a skirmish on North American soil against a foreign military. They go around the globe picking fights and no one can do a thing about it.
>>537786204>China wasn't a nation 150y agoWas Taiwan a nationWhat is the actual name of the country of TaiwanTaiwan isn't even a recognized countryWhat was China under KMT rule>American is artificial like FrenchCan you just become French tomorrow and be like all other French ? Why notImbecile
>>537786534They can only attack weak countries.France or China can go to Africa tomorrow and bomb a bunch of countries to oblivion.The US can't wage war against China, Russia or Iran
>>537759545Oof, it must hurt being this retarded.Iran is a massive country with extremely diverse landscapes. Taiwan is an island. Iran war was an offensive Taiwan war will be a defensive operationDefenders always have an advantage, given they have any level of fortification or planning, of which they have plentyTherefore you don’t understand how these things work
>>537769604Imagine China sending a whole war fleet into the Caribbean to defend CubaThere would be talk of nuclear war
>>537775961lol that little islet must make them so angry
>>537759239>>537759259>>537759583Sooner than Africa invading Madagascar>doesn't matter if it's South Africa or the rest of it
>>537783588All good points, anon.I just want to add one thing: in case of a blockade as an attempt to starve them out, I would shocked to see China blow up a civilian aid boat carrying food and medicine to the island, that would make things much worse for them, so, I don’t think they can actually starve them out, realistically What options do they even have?
>>537786612>What is the actual name of the country of Taiwan>Taiwan isn't even a recognized country>What was China under KMT ruleAre we really doing this garbage again in literally the same thread?>>537783455>Can you just become French tomorrow and be like all other French ? Why not ImbecileI have no idea what this retarded nonsense even means. French is actually a similar thing to Chinese. It’s just a political identity imposed on a bunch of different people. Nothing inherently wrong with that but it becomes a problem when they try to force that identity on people that don’t want it. I’m assuming you’re not a VPNigger right? I’m probably wrong but let’s just say you really are Croatian. Well if you think you’re Croatian you’ve been subverted by American propaganda. Croatian is a fake identity. You’re really Yugoslav and Croatian identity was just created to break up Yugoslavia.
>>537787315>so, I don’t think they can actually starve them out, realisticallythe problem isn't bombing aid boats, but regular freight vesselsyou can see this is Ukraine or Hormuzthey just need to blow up, even just put warn shots at one, and the commercial ships will stop coming due to risk and insuranceyou can't supply a 23million Island on aid boats alonethey won't starvebut this will economically cripple the average personif China would keep the threat upit's likely going to be a Ukraine situation thoughwhere other countries / allies just insure 100% of the cargoand while not inferring actively military wise, they'd ensure freedom of navigation and invalidate any blockade
>>537783455>Taiwan is forced to call itself the Republic of China by ChinaSo they're not independent? They're owned by the mainland?So why is this a problem?
>>537785791>Japan/SoKo will seetheWhy would they? China reclaiming Taiwan is a civil issue.What do they lose if China takes back an island they both acknowledge is China's?
>>537787932True, but when I say aid boats I don’t mean Greta coming over on a small boat, I do mean larger ships like freight vessels as you mentionedI think there’s a difference between Iran and ChinaIran is not as connected to the global economy as China is, nor do they have the same kind of legitimacy Iran is seen as a rogue terrorist state, whereas China is a more legitimate and “reliable” partner for trade and diplomacy If China sinks unarmed civilian boats carrying food or other essentials to help prevent mass casualties in Taiwan, that will be bad for China, in terms of preserving any kind of international cooperation going forward If China blows up civilian vessels and murders dozens of foreigners while the global media simultaneously reports on “thousands of babies dying from starvation in Taiwan”, they’re fuckedThat’s how I see it
>>537788258China’s Anti-Secession Law mandates non-peaceful means if Taiwan attempts to formally split from China. Formally abolishing the ROC and creating the Republic of Taiwan could be interpreted as a declaration of independence. This would trigger an invasion.Taiwanese people work very hard to appease China and maintain the status quo to avoid war.This does not mean that most Taiwanese today actually genuinely believe in or care about the historical Republic of China. They majority do not.
Reading this thread confirms my long held belief that /pol/ users are fucking retards. If China were to invade Taiwan, it would be because they believe they could do so quickly. They know that American politicians will defend Taiwan but not actually invade mainland China because Americans clearly do not have the stomach for throwing their soldiers lives away by the tens of thousands for anything less than Jewish interests or a direct threat to America itself. China would not provoke the US beyond its initial invasion plans (see: Korean War). Because of this, the entire war would hinge on if the initial invasion would be repulsed. If China were to take Taiwan by surprise and within a few days at most, they would be able to end the conflict before it spirals out. Based on China’s long and storied history of naval combat and invasions (zero experience), and factoring in the sheer amount of logistics and planning/staging necessary to succeed, it would be telegraphed for weeks ahead of time. I don’t see it succeeding, and clearly China doesn’t either since they haven’t tried to. The US lost Iran because we didn’t want to set foot on their land when we had no reason to. The US won’t set foot in mainland China, but it absolutely would use its navy to assist in repelling the invasion and nothing more. It would then either be a stalemate (US victory), or a protracted bombing war in which Taiwan gets heavily damaged. At no point will it fall though. The cost of this to China immediately becoming a pariah would be catastrophic for their economy. It’s simply not worth it to China to invade Taiwan and they know it. You can meme on Americas performance in Iran all you want, but the truth of the matter is this wouldn’t be like that conflict at all. Iran controls an incredibly important geographic area and cheap drones can shut it down. China controls a massive portion of global industry, which is in itself a weakness because their economy revolves around it
>>537759239Trump conceded to China, don't believe it go read it yourself on his foreign policy. He understands the chinese century is here and the jews brought it about.
Soon.
>>537759239It will not happen. When the KMT regains power, the merger with the mainland will begin.
I have upgraded my pc and my phone. I'm ready for electronics shortage
>>537789610Literally nobody in Taiwan wants to share a polity with millions of Chinese people, you dumb swedecuck.It’s not 1950. Taiwanese literally just want to be left alone.
>>537789739They would take it, if we offered it to them.
>>537759239Gonna love watching the MIGA seethe when the two Chinas reunify peacefully, cucking their kike masters out of another pointless war LMAO
>>537789739They want to be bootlickers of the Zionist Empire (i.e. raped kike slaves)?
>>537789629Even the KMT doesn’t run in elections on a platform of “Let’s just surrender and become a SAR of the PRC”In practice their policies aren’t as different from the DPP as you imagine. Fundamentally maintain the status quo. The key difference is they want friendlier relations, more dialogue and deeper economic ties with the mainland.
>>537789851No they would not.
Why the fuck would I care if China invaded Taiwan?
>>537790082>Ambassador (state department propaganda mouthpiece)>Mark (((Green)))>"The Chinese say they're no longer Chinese because a Washington desk jockey said so"LMAO neo-cohen cope is hilarious.
>>537789983They literally just wanna be Taiwanese.
>>537790219The kikes want to keep mutts constantly fearing the "next potential conflict" so that they're distracted from the subversion going on at home.
>>537790539So tiresome man.This is one of the most thoroughly polled issues in the world.
>>537790701Taiwan war will never happen, Moshe. Go post your chickenhawk propaganda somewhere else.
>>537789908>when the two Chinas reunify peacefully, cucking their kike masters out of another pointless war LMAOImagine talking about two Chinas in 2026. Like a time traveler from 40+ years ago.
>>537791030They’re either trolling (HIGHLY likely) or retarded (VERY likely)
>>537791030>>537791393China isn't planning to invade Taiwan. You kikes aren't going to get your precious WW3 no matter how much you cope and seethe.
>>537789111How is this different from Tranny mentality?Facts are facts. People from Taiwan are genuine Chinese. Just because they say they're different doesn't mean it's true.
>>537782033>absurdly sized navy to ensure nobody can take it on.Retard. Let me explain it to you so you can understand.Why did Knights disappear? Why did the Phalanx disappear? Why did bronze armor disappear? Why did crossbows disappear? In history, things come and go, that applies to the meta of armed warfare. Since 1600's ships have only gotten stronger, to the point where you can have a entire EMPIRE (British Navy) based on your Navy alone. But what has happened since 1945? Battleships got replaced with another kind of ship... which is Carriers. Simply because Carriers and their planes out range and out accuracy Battleships.So in the day and age where drones and rocket meta is ONLY getting better and better, smarter, stronger, reach further, faster etc. What chance does a carrier have? We can look at the Chinese Navy and see what they are adding to their ships. which they are adding Hypersonic missiles and ballistic missiles to their ships while the USN is still sticking with Tomahawks.We also have not even mentioned Submarines, which were Carrier sinking threats 1945.Now why would anyone want to build a large Navy these days? They costs Trilions when they cant even bully middle powers anymore (See Iran war). At best, they are just good for a stop gap for your missiles and rocket force and long range drones to attack and fight around key choke points. But once they go out of range of your logistics (which will be targets to bomb for your enemy as seen in the Iran war we lost a AWACS TO A FUCKING SHAEAD), they kinda are useless. The whole USN is practically useless now with how we are trying to be the "world police" its dumb, why have a Navy when it cant project power anymore.Its outdated. You either put long range missiles on them otherwise they are just targets waiting to be sunk. Navies will still exist but they arnt as valuable like they were in WW2.The time of being a Naval power has ended. Shit is moving to space anyways.
>>537759365The Soviets won WW2 by sending half their men into battle without guns. The Chinese will be fine. You should worry more about getting Japan and Korea to scale up military shipbuilding.
>>537790219You need an enemy to hate.Russia has literally no reason to conquer the EU because they have enough resources and Land for themselves and yet they're considered a threat. Same with the China threat with Korea, Japan and Flipland.First it was Muslims, then after the 2008 crisis, they pushed for the Racial shit, then it was the Gays, then Trannies. Gotta divide everyone so retards don't look at whose actually responsible for their suffering.
>>537759239>inevitableI am officially declaring it an impossibility. Thank you for your attention on this matter.
>>537791720Oof, there should be a word for this situation. Like when someone calls me a “kike” but I’m sitting here looking at my uncircumcised penis, it’s a very interesting situation. I also am not advocating for war, so…maybe stop being so stupid?
>>537791720Why would you think that I want to China to invade Taiwan? All of this can be avoided by China just deciding to do the right thing and leave Taiwan alone.>>537791865Gender is a biological fact. Nationality is a social construct.
>>537759259>She’s got blue eyes
>>537792901ChatGPT, recreate the above quoted post to sound less jewish and gay.>>537793247>pretending like you kvetching little rats didn't spend the last two weeks crying about the MOU because it meant no ground invasion of IranThe mask slipped a long time ago, kike.
The Taiwanese cuck posting from US...you can say your relatives good bye After Xi the next one will flatten the island and simply rebuild and repopulate it.
>>537793247>Nationality is a social constructChinese is a race, goy.
>>537793815>pretending like you kvetching little rats didn't spend the last two weeks crying about the MOU because it meant no ground invasion of Iran????You are severely mentally ill.
>>537794830No it’s not. Chinese is a civilization.East Asian or Oriental or Mongoloid or whatever you wanna call it, is a race.You sound exactly like a Russian nationalist who insists that that Ukrainians are Russians in denial.
>>537759239YELLOW PERIL FUCK CHYNA FUCK CHINKS
>>537794315You should know the largest amphibious landing in world history was D-Day. 50,000 troops landing on lightly defended beaches 20 miles from England. Taiwan is the most heavily defended island in the world with 2 million reserves and the distance is FIVE TIMES the distance the allies traveled during D-Day. The chinks little temu ships would get blown out of the water before they left the harbor. China can’t even project power a few miles off its own coastline and we have faggots talking about their military supremacy. Lmfao. I guess it’s impressive to defenseless euro cucks.
>>537776448>China doesn't have the resources to actually invadeTaiwan receives its imports by shipping from the mainland. You have somehow been convinced that the logistics system which supplies the island of Taiwan can't reach the island of Taiwan.
>>537759239Do we even care about southeast asia anymore under the Donroe Doctrine?Not our neighborhood
>>537777035>Experts agree that opinion polling proves thatTaiwan is a flea that lives on a mammoth. The mammoth's hair is its biome. The flea is not independent of the mammoth.
>>537759239China already tried to invade Taiwan twice by island hopping back in the 50’s and got btfoed
>>537795715How is China gonna enforce a blockade you stupid fuck?
>>537795739>Do we even care about southeast asia anymore under the Donroe Doctrine?Japan and Taiwan or really the only allies that matter in SEA. The rest is just a place you raw dawg cream pie chicks who have never been fucked by a cock over 3 inches. They make some hilarious noises when they get pounded by BWC.
>>537791865>I am real Chinese sir! What an ugly people
>>537782444>Ukraine miraculously managed to hold off the fucking retarded Russians>and even to regain almost a third of their invaded territory>when Russia's Kharkiv front collapsed>an actual invasion of even a weak unprepared countryYour narrative of events intentionally ignores that Ukraine made a peace agreement with Russia and Russia withdrew as an act of goodwill. You're also leaving out that Russia's military was ordered not to strike the Ukrainian military during the blitz encirclement of Kiev. If they had done so, they demonstrated by that encirclement that they would have easily killed the entire military of Ukraine in the opening blitz. China does not have any of these humanitarian concerns, and has learned about western perfidy by watching Russia's experience. If China decides that Taiwan poses an existential threat, then they'll kill everyone on that island within a week and without an invasion.>I think China will reconsider their whole glorious military conquest plan.China's plan is peace and prosperity. Their naval exercises around Taiwan have demonstrated the ability to encircle and embargo it repeatedly.
>>537759627>Embargo island>Three gorges dam is struck by the new Taiwanese long range cruise missiles explicitly designed to destroy said dam>Half a billion Chinese drown, or starve in the ensuing chaos as vast swaths of infrastructure is destroyed.>Mass unrest as China fragments into multiple polities.>Han Chinese warlords defeated by outside coalition.>Chinese forced to accept extremely restrictive 1/4 child policies to reduce their population to less than 1 million, and never allowed control of any significant land mass again.
>>537759239The American campaign in Hormuz ironically made sure there will be no invasion of Taiwan.Taiwan will integrate peacefully with China within two decades.
>>537796197>Donroe Doctrine>Japan and Taiwan SEA MoreLike Dumbroe doctrine
>>537786534>militarily US is still top dog.The US Navy is unable to approach Yemen, let alone Iran, let alone China. The only scenario in which the US can even win a battle against China is if the battle is blue-water with no land assets within range. America can win a hypothetical fight over nothing that will never happen.>They go around the globe picking fights and no one can do a thing about it.America lost all of those fights and has lost access to more than half of human manufacturing in its markets.>when was the last time when US fought a war, battle, even a skirmish on North American soil against a foreign military.2020. Tribal africans won. US soldiers in uniform literally kneeled.
>>537759239>muttoids seething about China just watching muttoids choke on their own cancer thread 5433490573723>300 replies by this muttoid samefagEvery single day
>>537759365AHEM
>>537795625>>537796064>>537796197>>537796276Amerishart spazzing out and projecting.You just lost the Iran war, now go back injecting more copium into your veins while your tardass prez Trump thanked Russia and China for not supporting Iran more.
>>537759239Not soon following the Chinese depletion of their SPR. Unlikely to resume until its refilled (for reasons I hope are obvious to your average /pol/ster
One thing ive noticed is chinese shills just openly lie and make up stats and dont even bother countering when it gets pointed out, thry just keep shilling. Id this an effective shill technique or are thry just retarded?
>>537786893>Defenders always have an advantageThis is not correct.>given they have any level of fortificationIran spent decades inventing and mass-producing high-psi concrete, has a culture centered on martyrdom, and designed their military heirarchy around surviving American air-campaigns. Iran's bunkers can survive an Oreshnik strike. American "bunker busters" never stood a chance. Taiwan has no such fortifications.>or planningTaiwan does not have sufficient food production to survive embargo.> I would shocked to see China blow up a civilian aid boat carrying food and medicine to the island, that would make things much worse for themIt would upset their Russian and Korean allies, who have humanitarian concerns. Han Chinese have been repeatedly passed through genetic filters that make them amenable to cannibalism in wartime. You know that switch you flip that prepares you to fight? Ever met a sociopath who doesn't even need to flip the switch? Now imagine an entire race of people who, when they see a dog at the park, opportunistically think "I could sell that to a restaurant for $20 if the owner doesn't catch me. Ah, but if I get caught, Comrade Xi might shame me." I have a lot of positive things to say about Modern China, but their race is very different and you can't lose sight of that
>>537785437>when the US keeps building military equipment"Why is the US building more boats and tanks,it already has so many">when the US stops and just maintains what it has"The US doesn't build ships anymore, it has no naval production power."Don't confuse not building ships with can't build ships. A war would be really dumb, but if the US directed its money towards ship building all the factories we have sitting on standby would rev up and we'd shit out hundreds of vessels a year.
>>537793815People like you disgust me, you hurt the cause by being this arrogant and willfully stupid.
Israel will start WW3, not China.
>>537795922PRC has never come anywhere close to invading Taiwan. Certainly not in the 1950s.After the ROC was driven off of mainland China Mao declared the birth of the PRC but the defeated ROC still controlled China’s islands. Throughout the 1950’s the PRC invaded them and took some of them (Hainan, Zhoushan Islands, Dachen Islands) but unfortunately they failed to take Kinmen and Matsu and Taiwan is saddled with the burden of possessing these islands to this day. Taiwan is a different situation entirely. It’s not an island right off China’s coast. There’s an entire strait separating Taiwan and China.
>>537789504>They know that American politicians will defend TaiwanAmerica is unable to and publicly declared that it won't interfere in Taiwan. This public declaration by Trump immediately followed the diplomatic visit which ended the trade war that he started. America also lost the trade war and is still unable to produce aircraft radars because China won't export Gallium anymore.>and factoring in the sheer amount of logistics and planning/staging necessary to succeedChinese logistics are how the island imports and exports its goods. The Chinese navy has a bi-annual drill in which it encircles Taiwan and sends aircraft on an attack pattern. The encirclement takes a few hours.>it would be telegraphed for weeks ahead of time.This encirclement never raises weeks-in-advance alarms in the west. It's always ready.>I don’t see it succeedingLiterally all China has to do is order that its ports no longer handle Taiwanese goods and issue a travel advisory. That alone would defeat Taiwan catastrophically. Add in a missile barrage against command, electrical infrastructure, and some military targets, then send the navy to encircle and establish drone supremacy. War over.>The US lost Iran because we didn’t want to set foot on their landYou're under the impression that the US had the capability to put boots in Iran? And that this would have resulted in victory?>but it absolutely would use its navy to assist in repelling the invasionThe US Navy is unable to approach Iran to within combat range. So how would it enter combat around China who has more missiles with longer range? How would the US even conduct naval operations in that theater when China's ally, North Korea, has the largest subsurface fleet in the world and already defeated America during this administration?
>>537797698Probably by forcing its golem to attack China over Taiwan. No one can tell me why we should even care.
>>537796860You’re wrong and your debating skills are weak. When you say ridiculous things like “Amerishart”, it just makes you look dishonest. I would never say “oh look at this dumb German Nazi hahahah” because I’m not interested in where you’re from. I’m interested in strong arguments, of which you have none.
>>537759239>be Taiwan>allied with superpower USA against your brothers on the Mainland for no good reason>Mainland China becomes the world superpower while the USA is in rapid decline>Decide to dump USA for your brothersChina's strategy to retake Taiwan is to do nothing and win.
>>537795893America is the one that imposed Chinese identity on Taiwanese people after WW2.
They are too weak and scared to ever do anything. They missed their opportunity.
>>537797378I see the sarcasm about their Russian and Nork allies, but I meant that their non-allied trading partners may react negatively to atrocities. Not guaranteed, but I think they would.
>>537795625>amphibious landingChina does not need to conduct an amphibious assault under fire. They've run huge naval drills more than once around Taiwan, and they've never included an amphibious assault component.>Taiwan is the most heavily defended island in the worldTaiwan does not have relevant AD, or high PSI bunkers. China has perfect satellite recon on all of their stationary assets, and will have drone supremacy in a hypothetical conflict. All of China's hypersonic munitions can deliver sufficient payload to penetrate all of the emplacements on the island. Functionally, there are no defenses and China can strike at will without presenting a target.>The chinks little temu ships would get blown out of the water before they left the harbor.China has conducted five mock invasions of Taiwan including sending aircraft into their airspace from all directions. Taiwan has never prevented this. Because it can't.>>537796064>How is China gonna enforce a blockadeThe same way Yemen and Iran did. But also with the world's largest navy and with a massive airforce, and also the help of their ally North Korea who has the largest subsurface fleet in the world. But also by just ordering their own ports to stop supplying Taiwan. America does not have the shipping capacity to make a humanitarian bridge across the pacific to feed Taiwan. America cannot approach China close enough with its navy to have a naval fight around Taiwan, just like it can't enter the strait of hormoz.
>>537797974The majority of Taiwanese people do not see the mainlanders as their brothers.
>>537759365Here's an example of a retard who thinks wars are all about outshooting the enemy on a flat 2D plane. Supply lines and grand strategy. China could just blockade Taiwan outside of drone range and just starve them out. They don't have to ever step foot on Taiwan soil until they surrender. Not to mention their manufacturing base is so large, they have more factories then we do missiles. Also USA can't deal with Yemen or Iran, what makes you think we can deal with a country 5x as large and population 20x as big? It's not 1950s anymore. Hell it's not even 1990s anymore. Hypersonics exist.
>>537797711There should be a word for Chinese cope >Chope or Chopeing >In referring to the Chinese tendency to cope about literally anything, at anytime, or anyplace Example;>Chang was chopeing about the buildings structural integrity before it collapsed killing millions
>>537798344Yes, I'm sure they consider the blackest niggers in America to be their bothers, but not their fellow Chinese neighbors.
>>537759239It will never happen.Nothing ever happens.The peoples republic of china (recognized by 182 states including america) will take over the republic of china(recognized by 12 states) but through (((democratic))) means.It will be alot better for the people of taiwan.
>>537796405>Three gorges dam is struck by the new Taiwanese long range cruise missiles explicitly designed to destroy said damNo American munition succeeded in penetrating Iranian high PSI concrete during the entire Iran campaign. Only precision strikes into openings succeeded. The three gorges is ~100ft thick at its thinnest point, and is 9,000PSI concrete. There is no American munition which can puncture 2,000 psi concrete deeper than 20 feet. And that requires a flat surface to land on. This also assumes that the American missile makes it through Chinese air defence, hits the target, and detonates. As we've learned in current conflicts, American missiles have a 20% failure to detonate rate, and frequently miss their targets.>Half a billion Chinese drownThis was a potential threat when the reservoir was at record 1,000 year highs. China successfully controlle the water and won against Nature.>>537797641>Don't confuse not building ships with can't build ships.America is trying and failing to build ships. Donald Trump's own Executive Orders related to shipbuilding explicitly talk about the need to create a shipbuilding industry since we don't have enough capacity even to maintain our current navy.>all the factories we have sitting on standbyYour wishful thinking has no basis in reality.
>>537798591?>>537798668>fellow ChineseAgain the majority of Taiwanese people do not identify as “fellow Chinese”.
>>537783588>Taiwan makes ~50 naval drones a month by nowImagine what happens when the stockpiles fall into commie hands, Once they exploited the corrupt kuomitang and ROC democracy enough to get their samtene wiedervereinigung.Heil Hitler! o/Heil Xi! o/
>>537798882>posts more CIA/jew propaganda about TaiwanYou are a retard if you believe that shit.
>>537798061>If the flee believes hard enoughIt will still be a flea on the back of the mammoth.>>537798214>I see the sarcasm about their Russian and Nork alliesRussians and Norks are humanitarian. That's not sarcasm. While America is targeting schoolchildren for double-taps, Russia has the largest Red Cross organization (for obvious reasons I'm not counting Chabad Lubovich) and NorKs distinguish themselves from SorKs by not letting their daughters become whores.
>>537760052dire! I would have thought more of these would be retired though. There is a lot of lost face in that summary.
>>537782593So what about the extension in jewkraine?
>>537763549China's exports to US are only 15% and rapidly declining. You and your shitty toilet paper dollars are not as important as you think they are.
>>537759691They did btfo jewmerica in the korean war and that was before they properly industrialized
>>537794858>taiwan army >patches in englishlmao
>>537759691AlsoOBLIGATORYBLIGATORY
>>537793487>discovers contactswait you'll find out they bleach their hair too
>>537781445a defensive war is one USA hasn't fought in a whilecan win it for oncehegseth however is stupid enough to try to turn it into an offensive war and capture beijing or something
>>537799056Why are you people like this lol?Do you actually think the majority of Taiwanese people secretly want to be Chinese??You sound exactly like the sort of people who were saying that as soon as Putin’s forces crossed the border that the Ukrainians would all abandon their “fake country” and rally around the Russian flag.
>>537794315>repopulate it.Fuck id love to help, may i have just a few sheng nü please. Just a handful mr Xi, please! All i need is a dozen chinese wives to love and cherish
>>537799315https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2030_Bilingual_Nation
>>537795113>this mutt thinks he knows anything about raceLmao
>>537799528Not the majority, only about 1/5th and mostly young people.And mainly because the republic of china has the same ills of degeneracy as the west.Hiwever ask yourself, would anybody really help them?Picrel from the paris olympics, remember how they got humiliated into actuallx having to take part as chinese taipei in the gay ass boat cerem8ny in the french ganghes (full of shit btw and it made swimmers sick because these fags NEEDED to do swimming competitions in the river instead of OLYMPIC pools)Nigger if youre still against china you are pro zog
>>537799330It's the department of WAR nowdelete this
>>537798214Lmao we are still buying russian oil and gas and when jewmerica bombed our pipeline they said>russia is trying to starve us for gasLMAO EVEN
>>537799525>a defensive warIf America decided to participate in a hypothetical defense of Taiwan, this would consist of America having to win coastal naval combat against China's navy and coast guard while under fire from missiles and aircraft on land. The bases from which America's local navy operates would also be under missile and aircraft attack. The US would then have to make an amphibious landing on Taiwan to get boots on the ground, and would then have to set up a cross-Pacific supply line indefinitely while Chinese missiles rain on Taiwan endlessly. What about that sounds like a "defensive" war that conveys a "defensive advantage?"
>>537798061There were these hokkaien guys or whatever but after the jewnited states gave fomosa to the ROC the kuomitang guys from china fled there after they lost the civil war. Thats how they became the trilingual nation.>native hokkaien (typa chink)>chinese>yingrish
>>537799718Stay mad.
>>537800235
>>537799528Crimea literally had a vote and sided with becoming Russia. Same would happen with East Ukraine. Taiwanese who give a shit about being independent (probably not many) are propagandized. The day will come when their economy is in the toilet for whatever reasons and then all of a lot more of them will want to reunify with the Mainlanders who they are very obviously closely related to (DNA, language, etc). Whatever merits there may be been to be allied with America against their brothers haven't existed for a long time now.
>>537797859>No one can tell me why we should even care.Because of muh social credit, which is totally different to fico scores. And the helmets with built in bombs for disobedience and the lampshades made of uyghur skin.(((They))) are othering china like crazy unknowingly stumbling right into the thucidydes trap.Get thus my nigger i actually went to china and there i sat at a table with some old dudes in a more rural town and he asked me where im from and i told him and then he said>i am sorry for what the jews have done to your country>the whole ww2 was because of the jews>thats why i dont like jewsAnd i enthusiastically shook his hand.
>>537799973No young person in Taiwan identifies as Chinese. It’s exclusively something that some older people identify as.
>>537759239Why should china invade taiwan when they can wait for the pro china party to win elections?
>>537800583Lmao i said a fith and you show me its actually a third you dumb nigger.But i was right sbout 1/5th of young people.Also just the jewish given name of your country doesnt erase your ethnicity.Tell me, my country's name is federal republic of germany, what is "taiwan" named? And why doesnt the US or germany recognize it as a nation?
>>537800656This.Man sadly i dont have the webm of the jew saying>if i want to take over the other island i introduce them to democracy and turn the women against men
>>537800456>Taiwanese who give a shit about being independent (probably not many) are propagandized. The day will come when their economy is in the toilet for whatever reasons and then all of a lot more of them will want to reunify with the Mainlanders who they are very obviously closely related to (DNA, language, etc). Whatever merits there may be been to be allied with America against their brothers haven't existed for a long time now.You’re just making up a narrative about people you know nothing about and assuming they are brainwashed because they don’t want to be invaded and assimilated into a foreign country.People in Taiwan have their own distinct culture, history and identity. They have as much desire to become Chinese as most Ukrainians have to become Russian.
>>537759365realistically, all they have to do is ferry over thousands of troops and just basically stand there like demonstrators replacing flagsour government won't do shit, and they very well signaled that multiple times nowthe us government won't fire a single shot at hordes of invaders rushing through OUR bordersamerica is dead, you niggers just cant smell the rot
>>537800373>(((AI)))>doesnt even disprove what i saidLmao kys nigger
>>537800373Also its a chink ethnic minority like the hundreds of non-han chinks they have in china. Nothing special.Also what does ROC stand for?????
>>537800008KekFuck ZOG and its botsHeil Hitler! o/
>>537800860exactly
>>537800796>Tell me, my country's name is federal republic of germany, what is "taiwan" named? Holy shit not this again>>537783455
>>537801189>Also what does ROC stand for?????Nothing. It stands for absolutely nothing. It’s a moniker that the US and China have forced upon Taiwan explicitly against their will.
>>537800456>Same would happen with East Ukraine.The Donbas Republics already voted to join Russia, and their uniformed militaries folded into the MoD. The DRG units in the SMO exist in their special form because that's the organization they had when they were irregulars.>assuming they are brainwashedThey're taking the side of racial strangers who hate them and live distantly, against their coethnic co-nationals. That distant enemy they've misidentified as a friend is noted for using this hypnosis as its primary method. All the other hallmarks of ZOG's influence are also present, including the mass pushing of trannies into the public view for celebration.>because they don’t want to be invadedA desire for independence doesn't come from a desire to not be invaded. Independence would be the surest path to invasion, and remaining part of China would prevent invasion. Everyone knows this.>assimilated into a foreign country.Both major parties in Taiwan agree that the ROC and PRC are the same country.>People in Taiwan have their own distinct culture, history and identity.People in California and New York have distinct cultures, so it's only natural that other countries should ship missiles to them pointed at Washington DC, why are you pretending that they're the same country when they're obviously so different? This argument about America makes more sense than claiming the Chinese who live offshore have more in common with America than with the mainland Chinese.
>>537800796They still call themselves the “Republic of China” because the CCP is a bunch of a children who will chimp out over something as benign as a name change. So, they simply don’t change the name for now (key word now, meaning they will change it eventually) in order to avoid a guaranteed chimp out. It’s not that they don’t want full sovereignty, but they’ve calculated that the potential risk of changing the name outweighs any benefits for now. Simple.
>>537802269>Both major parties in Taiwan agree that the ROC and PRC are the same country.No they don’t.
>>537801042>they won’t defend America from illegals so they won’t defend Taiwan eitherAre you new? The jews are replacing white people on purpose. Obviously zog isn’t going to go against that by enforcing border laws and security. As for Taiwan, it’s a trillion dollar island, these kikes do care about money, it’s one of the few things they care about, so they will defend Taiwan.
>>537802336>>537801952>>537801334Ok so why does the prc enforce the ome china policy on western cucks going so far that the jewSA dont even recognize taiwan as a nation if they would be so bithered by them calling themselves taiwan? Giga retardery you /k/oping faggots
>>537802336Forget it man. If somebody is still making this absurd argument (Taiwan is forced to call itself the ROC instead of the ROT that means it’s part of China) they are either an idiot or a liar.
>>537802565What the fuck are you even trying to say dude?
>>537803033Are you a chink?
do not carefuck jews
>>537759239they need to hurry up and take it already
>>537803033The issue china takes with taiwan is that it calls itself "republic of china" under one china policy (there is knly one true china) this doesnt fly. And up until the height of the cold war the west only regognized the ROC as the legit china whilst warsaw pact niggers only recognized the prc. Then the US changed its stance and the entire west recognized china and not the ROC. Under this one china policy that westernniggers follow (to skrew over their domestic workers by replacing their labor with cheap chinks) they cannot recognize taiwan, which obviously wants to be recognized, so why dont they change their name to taiwan? China obviously doesnt want them to be named anything-china hence they call it chinese taipeh.You fucking /k/nigger glowfaggots are so fucking tiresome i swear.Denounce the talmud as well as the united states of america.I denounce the federal republic of germany.I am only loyal to the third reich
>>537803033Judensau
>>537802565I don’t go on /k/Retard lmao
>>537759239A fight over Taiwan would be the easiest and most straightforward way to inflict a colossal strategic defeat on China. These Rimland choke points like Taiwan, Vietnam and Korea put China's inexperienced and less sophisticated military at a huge disadvantage and remove their strategic advantage of fighting close to home and having huge reserves of manpower.Expeditionary warfare is hard, even if it's relatively close to home. The British spent 200 years mastering it and still struggled with the burden and complexity of it in WW2. China would have 1 chance to try something they've never tried before, and they would have to execute it perfectly to even let there be a battle. But that battle would be a contest of air forces, navies and missiles for a country that has never fought a modern air or naval engagement. It would be a contest of submarine warfare for a country that operates almost no submarines, has no dedicated sub hunters or shipping escorts and has never conducted ASW operations.A battle over Taiwan would center around all of China's strategic and industrial weaknesses and afford it none of its strengths. It's quite possibly the worst battleground it could pick for a decisive conflict with the west, and China's risk-averse regime is obviously it stupid enough to chance it unless the west presents them with an undeniable opportunity.
>>537803957>The issue china takes with taiwan is that it calls itself "republic of china"You’re so fucking retarded, holy shit.
>>537798369China is as dependent on foreign trade as Taiwan is, and just as easy to embargo. This was China's most important takeaway from Russia's invasion of Ukraine: just how easily the west can cut a major economy out of its supply chains when needed. Russia built up a massive war chest of funding, resource stockpiles and industrial capacity to support its war and by year 5 it's suffering extreme economic shortfalls and austerity.China would not have the luxury of time in any pitched conflict. It would be isolated from the global economy along naval choke points like the Straits of Malacca, surrounded by hostile neighbours with a vested interest in containing it's expansion and punishing aggression and put on a timer to achieve strategic objectives before its own war chest ran dry.
>>537803957The PRC works with and has decent relations with the group of people in Taiwan who still call it “Republic of China”. China’s position is that “we both agree that we are Chinese and that means there’s a possibility of reunification between the us”.China’s main problem is with the Taiwan independence supporters. People who refuse to call itself ROC and insist on calling it Taiwan. They view such people as separatists. You have literally exactly backwards.https://asianews.network/china-condemns-taiwan-president-lais-remarks-reaffirms-opposition-to-independence/
>>537804837>>537804055>No argument just femoid coded responsesI accept your concessions faggots. Picrel is (((you)))Ficoscore current thing niggers.Denounce the talmud right now judenschweine
>>537805503Literally explained it here. You are literally just wrong. And an idiot. I don’t mean that as an insult just a fact. You are not a very smart person. At all. >>537805414
China will continue to build up an ever larger force of missiles and bombers and shipsAmerica will continue to piss away it's missiles depleting the air defense arsenals of our allies world wide.Eventually Taiwan will just cut a deal with China and America will be left seething.In the end America will bomb the chip factories out of spite.The old Hannibal Protocol that we've learned from our masters in the last few months.
