Mash alleges Ukrainian Armed Forces (AFU) lost 2.4 million soldiers since Feb 2022 (incl. 400k in first half of 2026 alone). Data hacked by PalachPro & NoName057(16) from General Staff, TCC, hospitals and morgues. Losses escalated from 1.7M (Aug 2025) to over 2M (Dec 2025). Highest daily deaths (+500/day per direction) on Pokrovsk, Kostyantynivka, Lyman, Zaporizhzhia, Kupyansk fronts. Heavy toll on specific brigades. Foreign mercenaries (arounc 5k killed) now listed as "accidents"; recruitment mostly from Latin America continues.https://voennoedelo.com/en/posts/id17153-mash-claims-ukrainian-army-losses-hit-2.4-millionYeah, it would explain the escalating busification xD
This gloating about dead people from either side has to stop
we already know they have a KD of 3 against Russians so that would imply 7 million Russians are dead, that's a little bit too high. Cut the numbers by tenfold.
>>5377717163mill of rus2.4mill of ukr5.5mill all dead
>>537771832>we already know they have a KD of 3 against RussiansYou means NAFO and its creative calculators? xD
>>537771716who gives a fuck about ukrainian loses? only russian shills and retards who see them as people and not as meatshields XD
>>537771880Literally every historic precedence of a defensive war on technologically evenly matched powers.Unless Russia had a MASSIVE technological edge, which they don't, 3:1 remains the historic baseline.2.4 million is so far the estimated count of Russian casualties (dead, wounded, MIA), so this seems to be the typical Russkie propaganda of taking Russian losses and claiming them as Ukrainian, because they are betting on the average Russian not being able to tell the difference between their uniforms and gear.
>>537771832>we already know they have a KD of 3 against RussiansHow do we know this?
>>537771832>we already know they have a KD of 3 against RussiansYou sound ukrainian
>>537771716Ukraine is a dead country now if thats even remotely true, also funny how zog reuters put out a story claiming Russia lost 3 million, their bullshit never ends.
>>537772090Wow, sounds legit. Did a military yeshiva do all those highly hermetic calculations?
>>537772167I would have thought it was bullshit if they hadn't have responded so opaquely. British intelligence isn't very intelligent.
>>537772090Drone ISR strips defender concealment, while FAB glide bombs deliver precise 500kg blasts from standoff range, destroying trenches before infantry advances. This neutralizes the defender's dug-in advantage. Assaults become mop-up operations against shattered remnants. Consequently, defender casualties from preparatory strikes and failed counter-moves now exceed attacker assault losses, completely inverting the classic 3:1 attacker-defender casualty ratio.
>>537772132You sound Russian
>>537771716Ethnic replacement of the male population of ukraine, pol/ (((ukrainian))) propagandists won't like this fact to be revealed.> nooooooooo focus only on the russian casualties !!! don't ask about our casualties !!!
>>537771880Russia has been on the attack and Ukraine on the defence, which by all historical logic would imply 3x casualty rates for Russia, plus, Russian soldiers have been famously shitty for centuries, which is why Russia always relies on meat waves. And on top of that Ukraine is doing medevac while Russia is not. So actually Trump's 14:1 Russia:Ukraine death rate is most plausible.
>>537771766It's a shame that it's not all of Russia that is dead but the Ukrainians will recover like they did the past century after you Kaffers kikes killed them by the millions
>>537771716lol >>537758682
>>537771975I hope Poland gets raped to death (again) by the Russian apes
>>537772270>Russia has been on the attack and Ukraine on the defence, which by all historical logic would imply 3x casualty rates for RussiaRead this: >>537772225https://youtu.be/pAcsgCFDiYM
>>537772386>Ukrainians will recover like they did the past centuryIdk chief, literally 50% of their country is already depopulated. I'd say Khazaria is looking more and more on the menu.
>>537772132Likely just trans
>>537772270Is it really good to be on the defensive in fixed positions with drones directing artillery?
>>537772225It should also be mentioned that ukraine suffers from a severe lack of artillery compared to the Russians.The deficit in artillery alone erodes away much of a defender's advantage.
>>537772606It's the invasion force which needs more and larger positions near the front.
>>537772808Does it? Or does it just need to accurately destroy fixed positions and mop up now disorganized defenders? You can have defense in depth but then there's no real benefit of fixed positions. In modern warfare you do not want to be the defender in a fixed position.
>>537772090>3:1 remains the historic baseline.fucking retard3:1 advantage is just general rule for attacking, it can be reduced by various multipliers and have nothing common with suffering losses
>>537771716>a hacker revealed how many casualties you Really sustained!>well a different hacker leaked how many casualties YOU really sustained!gee, i wonder who could be doing all this "hacking"?
>>537772726Russian glide bomb production is staggering. Estimates for 2025 range from 70,000 to 120,000 units with current usage hitting 200-250 daily and monthly records exceeding 5,700. This output dwarfs Western capacities. NATOs Secretary General stated Russia produces three times more ammunition in three months than all of NATO in a year, an industrial scale that buries Ukrainian positions under hundreds of thousands tons of explosives
>>537772934Need something to actually bomb, unless you go straight for civvies.
>>537772876Given how long it has lasted, yes.
>>537773031I don't think the length of the conflict really says much either way given the opacity in regards to resources used by either side.
>>537773070>they weren't trying yetEternal two more weeks.
>>537772386>Ukrainians will recover like they did the past centuryThey did not even recover from breaking off from the USSR if you look at the birth rates after 1990.
>>537772430you're being raped & killed by packs of feral niggers, boer
>>537773174Maybe. It's not exactly western doctrine but a war of slow attrition and advance where you burn your enemy out rather than using risky maneuver warfare can be valid.
>>537771716>Data hacked by PalachPro & NoName057(16) from General Staff, TCC, hospitals and morguesSomething tells me "PalachPro" and "NoName057(16)" aren't exactly the most trustworthy sources of information. No one really is in this war, for obvious reasons, but Western intelligence agencies are probably the closest to correct as is possible. The actually have dozens of really smart people whose literal jobs are to know as much as they can about this war, and who have access to more information than is publicly available. I'm not saying BRO BLINDLY TRUST THE BRITISH MOD, or whatever, but you have to admit that there are gradients if trustworthiness in the information space. I would argue that "PalachPro" and "NoName057(16)" are pretty far to the end of being likely total bullshit kek
>>537773309>Western intelligence agencies are probably the closest to correct as is possibleThats a joke, right? xD
>>537773004That's what the bussifications are for, to get people into the front to be bombed in 2 seconds
>>537773309>Western intelligence agencies are probably the closest to correct as is possibleI too still remember the Iraqi WMDs.
>>537773350No, it's information hygiene. The British, for example, didn't even lie about their own losses in Iraq and Afghanistan. Even the US didn't lie, even though that seems to be changing. There isn't a great incentive for them to lie about casualty figures in a war in which they're not even directly involved with troops on the ground. They can obviously be WRONG, but I don't see the incentive to actively lie.
>>537771716>anxious pidor noises xDthings must be going the right way then
>>53777171614:1 nigga.
ziggers celebrating the death of a european nation in a pointless invasion for nothing is celebrating murder suicide because if this was true millions of russians also died to murder this many europeans, and for absolutely no gain, nobody's life improved by murdering europeans in ukraine. only antisocial edgelords would be happy about the pointless war.
>>537773432"More likely," anon. I'm not saying anything is 100%. Again, I'm not saying you should trust blindly. I'm saying you should examine the incentives like a big boy and stratify information sources. No matter the checkered history of intelligence services, I'd still say that in this specific case, they're more likely to have reason to tell the truth as best as they know it than to lie. This is the question you have to answer: who are "PalachPro" and "NoName057(16)," who do they work for, and why exactly should we trust what they say?
>>537773308Waiting for them to develop long range capabilities was surely a brilliant strategy.
>>537773461Physical liquidation of deindustrialized Europederasts is a general life improvement and reduces burden on non-renewable resources of the Earth tho. xD
>>537773461Ukraine isn't a european nation ever since jews took it over and this is still a net benefit to Russia, their population, territory and resources are up as a result.
>>537773438don't bother arguing in good faith you're talking to an angry little man with delusions of grandeur who shills for pidors just fling some shitthat is the way
>>537773555Perhaps, but the long range engagements aren't strategically relevant. Tit for tat. Ukrainians blow up a refinery, Russia turns a bunker full of NAFO furries into pink mist with kinetic MIRVs.
>>537773555Russia has been using "long range capabilities" against ukraine since the start. These sorts of strikes have never worked and never will. Not in WW1, not in WW2, not in Vietnam, not in Korea, not in Ukraine, not in Iran and not in Ukraine (again). Russian strategy from pretty much as soon as the innitial "see if they just surrender" strategy failed has been the total elimination of all enemies willing to fight which they are still doing today.
>>537773438>it's information hygieneGive it up dude. xD Western/UK-linked intel predictions involved Russia rapidly running out of precision-guided missiles, munitions, electronics/chips, and facing total economic collapse from sanctions and literally none of this happened.
>>537772225>completely inverting the classic 3:1 attacker-defender casualty ratio.omg another of /k/opes that people dont bother researching. the 3 to 1 ratio is a metric for HOW MANY MEN YOU MUST HAVE TO OVERWHELM THE DEFENDING SIDE. Its not a casualty rate and never was, the same book that came up with this ration that casualty rates are about 1:1.6-1.7. Stop using this crap its just stupid for either side
>>537772090The presedence is verdun offense team spams more arty and kd is 1:1.2 in favor of arty spammer
>>537772090>Unless Russia had a MASSIVE technological edgeWhich they did, with artillery.
>>537773863You are right, 3:1 is the minimum force ratio for local superiority, not casualties, but it usually resulted in higher number of casualties on the attacker side vs well defended positions. For breaching prepared defenses, classic doctrine demands 10:1 or higher. xD But classic doctrines are useless in a modern warfare
>>537771716Wipe every fucking zigger and every zigger supporter off this planet SLAVA UKRAINE
>>537773461>pointless invasionIt was absolutely necessary for Russia to give NATO a bloody nose. Hardly pointless.
>>537772090So Iran killed about 10.000 zogbots?
>>537773990according to the book its says about 1 to 1.7 in favor of the defenders. You are right though this is a cold war era research and doesnt really hold up the credibility to modern assymetrical conflicts
>>537773801Who are "PalachPro" and "NoName057(16)," who do they work for, and why exactly should we trust what they say?
>>537773930>>537774023get out of my country
>xDNigger are you 12
>>537773723They don't break the country, they are fucking annoying.
Russian Rubicon UAV reconnaissance unit provides real-time targeting data for VKS tactical aviation conducting stand-off precision strikes using UMPK-equipped KAB/FAB glide bombs. Footage depicts coordinated ISR-strike operation destroying elite "Magyar Birds" Ukrainian FPV/drone command posts and personnel in Donbass. Su-34/ Su-35 platforms release winged, satellite-guided FAB variants from beyond Ukrainian MANPADS/AD envelope, exploiting air superiority for deep tactical interdiction.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0YGSlChufYBadass xD
>>537774157if you don't trust PalachPro and NoName057(16) ur a "nafotroon", simple as, okay?
>>537772090Lmao, i must have seen this exact post and this thread like 50 times.
crazy how despite being 2% of the population Russians make up 98% of Finnish flags on /pol/
>>537774479I presume this 98% count includes you also.
>>537774158>get out of my countryno u
>according to kremlinOP is a schizo russian jew.
>>537771716anyone else notice the polack always putting xD to his ziggerganda?
>>537774551every single Finn knows that Russia is an inferior country with an inferior people
>>537774731yes and he calls Poland 'Bolanda'it's an insult from the early 1990sdude is old, frustrated and operating on ancient memes
>>537771716>voennoedelook Pidor.>>537774731A real Pole called him out once and OP ran away like a bitch.
>>537774831>A real PoleThats a real Pole - a patriot, renowned military expert, and shining star of OSINT. Staunch supporter of Ukraine/Israel, fanatically anti-Russian. Sadly, cant serve in the army because of flat feet.
>>537775133>shining star of OSINTyou claimed you did OSINT for "the CIA" and that you know an American general personally lmao also "OSINT" is just reading newspapers and watching TV then translating summaries into English for some embassy nigger who doesn't speak Polish anyone with high school English can do that
>>537774790>every single Finn knows that Russia is an inferior country with an inferior peopleNah, you're just a retard that just got out of military service, romanced by our heroism in the winter war, thinking Russia's our eternal enemy out to conquer us. Truth is, Russians are humans and we've enjoyed good relations with them ever since the collapse of the USSR, which has been hugely beneficial for us.It's the powers that be that want us to be at odds with each other. Russia+EU could easily put us back on the world stage, but nah... we had to push NATO, a hostile military alliance to their doorstep.As the saying goes:NATO exists to keep>Russia out>America in>Germany (Europe) down
>>537775401>NATO exists to keep Russia outokay I'm sold
I highly doubt that number. Maybe total casualties, so dead, wounded, even lightly wounded. But that many dead would imply 5-6 million casualties. Their army would’ve shattered long ago, even accounting for peculiarities of modern warfare. We need to see the database to verify, otherwise it’s a claim of same quality as nonsense Ukrainian shills push.
Also Ukrainian population during this war dropped to below 30 million. Now they’re maybe at 20-23 million. Such huge casualties would be felt hard.
>>537771766Agreed. Bad things happen to people when they wish bad things happen to others.
Whenever I read things like this my mind immediately starts asking "If this is true then why is it year 5 of special operation", can someone explain this?
>>537772386tell me when ukraine ever recovered lol... prior to this "war" ukraine was universally seen by every other european nation as the poorest, most corrupt, most shitty nation in europe. a home for human trafficking, foreign interest groups owning stake in national companies(biden), and other terrible dealings. now all of a sudden it's "glory to heroes!" ukraine is known as the place that sells orphans to international bidders at record low prices and with only a week's wait time. the most lax adoption laws in the world. do you know how many children have been sold to epsteins?
>>537775453>okay I'm soldNo, you're retarded
>>537772090Lol, no.Original invasion was carried out by only 100k soldiers.Ukraine had 600k armed forces to counter it and failed.
>>537774731He's a mentally ill jewish attention whore
>>537774479>everyone who tells the truth and doesnt want the world destroyed with nukes is a Russian spy!Wouldnt that make them the good guys?
>>537775840its not a time war
>>537774479kill yourself faggot
>>537772090delusional hohol hiding in another country trying to avoid the draft kek. youre gonna get dragged in ukranda soon enough and be another statistic
>>537777249>muh nuclear warnice 2022 talking point revived, there's not going to be another war after Ukraine if the west maintains strength. On the other hand, war will be inevitable if the west fractures. >>537777675feeling personally called out?
>>537777998>nice 2022 talking point revived, there's not going to be another war after Ukraine if the west maintains strength. On the other hand, war will be inevitable if the west fractures.So war is inevitable then. Good luck! I'll go to prison as a conscientious objector.Btw, have you seen Sauna? Breddy good. It's about Finnish and Russian delegates tasked with drawing the Finnish-Russian border, with a touch of Horror.
>>537771716The ridiculous and relentlessly one-sided commentary that we have received since the run-up to this conflict is quite mind-boggling.Watch Ukraine on Fire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywdtmpK_AP0 for an honest look at Ukrainian history, then read this article from 2014 talking about creating a 'second Israel' in Ukraine.https://www.defenddemocracy.press/israels-secret-plan-for-a-second-israel-in-ukraine/It's almost like there's been a plan all along.
>>537771766Too bad OP is a kike and it's his job to do this
>>537772090ok, lets assume both sides lost 2.4 million. But since Russia started with a 100 million more people than Ukraine. That means Russia can comfortably keep doing what it's already doing. Meanwhile Ukraine is still refusing to hold elections and still kidnapping new recruits off the street.
>>537771716>alleges Ukrainian Armed Forces (AFU) lost 2.4 million soldiersNigga, that means the reparations payments will be even higher, so high that Puzzian grandchildren will still be paying them to Ukraine. Picrel.
>>537771873Victoria Nuland and the 2014 Color Revolution did its job. Thank you Joe Biden.
>>537771716Lol gulaghomo
>>537771766These people really do treat it like a football game. They aren't at risk of ever being involved in this war and decided that this tragedy will instead motivate them to bicker online and trade shots with other discord groups.
>>537777998You are a faggot who hates society because you will never be a woman.Thats why.globohomo hired all you troons to shill for your kike master in Kiev
>"My source? Two gamertags from a Counter-Strike 2 server"You somehow get more pathetic by the day, polish VPN shill. Somehow.
>537779700Prove you're White if you want real engagement, jeet flag. Otherwise you'æl continue to be disregarded.Outlet, posting ID, go.
>>537772167>>537772212I searched and couldn't find a story, so I'm assuming the screenshot was fake.
>>537771716>10% of the Ukrainian population dead>Russia still only advancing single digit meters per dayIt would be a lot less embarrassing if they published lower numbers
>>537774377same.i like to believe that german poster is russian vpn specifically shilling FOR ukraine in order to ruin ukraines image via some kind of reverse psychology.