In the future, everyone will be forced to rent compute for anything and everything.
>>537834415>tfw bought 20 different computers over the last 4 years with crypto money I knew this shit was coming and Im so happy I stacked up on those little guys. So fucking amazing
>>537834415remember when they told you prices were jumping because of the pandemic and "supply chain issues" lol
>>537834415This cunt Musk is one of the crooks running the scam. They're so absolutely full of shit that they actually believe their own hype now. Reminder that as of this date they don't have any customers paying the actual retail price for this fantasy compute.
>>537834576If we don't give up our freedoms, the terrorists win. You're either with us, or against the terrorists. Ya can't fool me once!
Looks like we need to draw teaching from Marx, but in this era the people have to seize control of the means of computing.
>>537834415They are just going to go down again once supply increases to reach demand. What do you think is gonna happen to all that hardware once the datacenters upgrade their stuff?
>>537835481Constant revolving hardware to replace burned out GPUs in data centers?
>>537835481>once supply increases LOOOOOOOOOLL
>>537834415Kikes told me that capitalism is meant to deliver better products at cheaper prices, but it seems to be doing neither while making my country browner. Weird.
Global chip manufacturing capabilities will increase tenfold in the next years. This means the AI data centers will get the demand met and after that the the supply of chips will be huge which will then lead to decrease in prices. R-right?
>>537834415But there's literally nothing worth doing my 4770k GTX 1060 desktop cannot handle. Gay tracing and Gay-I slop only makes things worse.
>>537835592Explain why do you think supply will never increase.This should be good
>>537834415Anyone else deciding to try and give up digital technology for a more analog life? I quit video games and stuff and started going to the gym and playing guitar instead. Its hard because of how pervasive digital technology is
>>537835466Communist human computer?
>>537834415I doubt that will work. Musk already has too much data center capacity and is therefore renting it out. Eventually, they'll run out of investor money to buy more hardware. And hardware manufacturers will ramp up production anyway. In a few years, hardware will be cheaper than ever before.
>>537835611"They" will invent some new fad and create another artificial shortage.
>>537835624It doesRuns heavier and looks shittier than pre baked lighting Only case is when devs where too lazy to bother with that
>>537835611>Global chip manufacturing capabilities will increase tenfold in the next years. This means the AI data centers will get the demand met and after that the the supply of chips will be huge which will then lead to decrease in prices. R-right?The question is whether chip manufacturers will take the risk. AI demand is difficult to predict and highly speculative.
>>537835703Apple has announced a 20% increase across the board on their products so the market will sort it out. A 20% increase on a 2K phone is almost $200 dollars, check my math.
>>537834415> ponzi schemers buying it hoping that AI slop can automate
>>537834415Or I'll just buy computer parts from china and watch the american tech industry commit suicide lol, lmao even
>>537834415Musk promised Utopia and UBI and all we got is massive inflation.
This is by design.Memory has always been a cartel monopoly, and they will not up production enough to devalue their profits ever again. They've been waiting for an opportunity like this for decades.If AI companies can lock out consumers from hardware, then they need them for services.Only way to win is a total rejection of these companies and all companies using their services.
>>537835930China is winning back the Mandate of Heaven
>>537835876>20% of 2k is almost 200>check my mathmath checked: you're a nigger
>>537835876You're a fucking moron. Recheck your math.
I look at it this way.Can frontier AI models be profitable??? I don't think so. They're too large, and too inefficient with current hardware/software to run at scale like they want. Therefor they have to charge high rates per use. This high rate per use model is not really worth it to most people, especially since it's only really useful for office work automation, and coding assistance. Therefor what we see are most companies building self-hosted systems (largely off open source Chinese models). The investment will start to dry up, panic will set in, they'll try to pivot to lower end models and it will work sort of, but ultimately some of them will go under, and others will be shells of their former selves.tldr. Altman isn't going to buy 40% of the RAM supply like he promised, and if he does he'll have to eventually sell it because what they do isn't profitable in any imagination.
>>537835611Micron claims their higher prices are locked in for the next 5 years
>>537836003What is the obsession with high-speed rail and commies?
just rent one in the cloud
>>537836028Or actually more likely when they're about to go under the government will bail them out and we'll all be fucked in the aftermath as usual.
>>537836042HSR is overrated and not cost effective unless you have a very active line.Regular rail is nice, but also only really worth it in more dense areas.
>>537835481Lol enjoy antropic’s sloppy seconds. That kind of use destroys the hardware.
>>537835653Yes. Internet isnt an escape anymore, and IRL is quiet
>>537834415No, your fake and gay AI ponzi scheme will collapse, along with your fake and gay country. Everyone else will just go "oh good, finally" and start buying Chinese parts instead.Nobody in history has ever deserved their imminent collapse more.
>>537834415In the future you will be required by law to harvest your farts to power the AI data centers and prevent global warming. Screencap this.
>>537835876This means apple is engaging in price gouging. Their hardware costs are only about a third of their prices, and chip manufacturers have announced a 10% increase starting in july.
>>537836042>What is the obsession with high-speedTaking the train is wonderful and super comfy
>>537836194What? Apple being greedy faggots? No way!
>>537836042It's just a way to get at very large sums of public (free) money to spread around, for long periods of time. Also a means of transporting soldiers, operatives, and settlers into contested areas.
>>537834698This, FUCK all the commie tranny terrorists, hope Peter Thiel KILLS them all. Fucking troons
>>537836276Railroads were the number one white technology before rockefeller decided he wanted to sell more oil and therefore waged a systematic war of annihilation against railroads. Luckily, he wasn't quite as successful in europe as he was in america.
>>537836415Unfortunately a single post isn't going to deprogram a mutt from a lifetime of propaganda conflating freedom with pig like consumption.
>>537834415Cool it with the antisemitism
>>537834518>I stacked up on those little guys.it wont' matter. notice how stuff barelly works on 15 years old computers event though they're not that much less powerful. New CPUs, new instructions implemented, making your stuff obsolete and useless. They'll do the same with modern computers, which won't be able to process shit, 15 years from now. And they'll stop selling personal computers, so you will have to buy the cloud time or don't do digital work at all At least that's what I would do if I were an evil billionaire in clique with others
>>537836595although I guess chinese could throw a wrench into this scheme
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>>537835611>>537835827>>537835870>>537836040>>537835703see>>537837239
>>537835870What do you mean take the risk? You got AI companies building chip factories now. SpaceX and Tesla will build Terafab a chip factory. Google and Amazon working on their own chip factories. (they are copying Elon btw) OpenAI making custom chip but don't know if they will create chip factories?Then are are Chinese chip companies, probably some new ones in Russia as well due to sanctions and shit, probably some EU start ups too because they don't want to be reliant on others. https://edition.cnn.com/2026/06/24/tech/openai-broadcom-jalapeno-ai-chip>OpenAI and Broadcom announced plans to develop custom chips to power 10 gigawatts worth of computing last year, but only unveiled the first chip from that partnership on Wednesday.>Tech giants like Google and Amazon have increasingly shifted toward developing their own AI chips. Custom chips allow companies to better tailor processing performance for their own models and reduce reliance on existing chip companies like Nvidia. OpenAI said Jalapeño is designed specifically for modern large language models instead of being a “general-purpose” chip.>“Nobody wants to be beholden to Nvidia,” Ben Barringer, global head of technology research at investment firm Quilter Cheviot, told CNN last November when asked about Google potentially challenging Nvidia in AI chips. “They are trying to diversify their chip footprint.”>>537835827At some point they can afford to both make chip for them self and sell to the gamers because the tech has advanced and become more available. >>5378360405 years is nothing. Not even Skyrim 2 will be done in that time. But the 5 years after that will be a new golden age for video games
>>537835481>>537835611Here's an anecdote.According to economists like Yanis Varoufakis, one of the reasons why the German car industry is in the shitter is because the auto companies saw that most consumers were poor and that the profits to be made were meager, so instead of pumping money on R&D and innovation like EVs they spent all that money on stock buybacks in order to inflate the monetary value of their company for their shareholders.These auto companies made the conscious decision that the very people buying their cars were no longer their primary market nor priority, and essentially dove headfirst into financialization (making money via financial transactions and investment vehicles) rather than a tangible product.The same thing seems to be happening to western tech.All these companies have looked at the consumer market and deemed them to be insignificant compared to the profits there are to be made in selling hardware to government-affiliated AI companies and the military industrial complex, using tax dollars.So there's no guarantee supply & demand will even matter, because they've swapped out demand of the markets with sweet taxpayer money straight from the government. And there's a high degree of financialization going on because even though these chipmakers, RAM, storage and GPU companies like Nvidia do provide physical hardware with real measurable performances, at the base level the task both them and the AI companies do are relatively simple (backpropagation and gradient checkpointing = LLM) and not inherently worth a whole lot since it's already easily replicable by small independent Chinese companies with a fraction of the hardware, meaning that the only really valuable thing about these companies are their stock valuation, their position as a government contractor, and circular financing (Nvidia pumping billions of dollars into OpenAI who then directly spends those billions on Nvidia hardware making it look like there's a lot of activity).
At least we have bad cat videos
>>537838525How many more weeks before all that happens?
>>537834415>i keep buying retarded software because i'm computer illiterate so I had yo sell my computerLol
>>537835653Yeah, I just retired after 32 years of development, no interest in managing agents doing my favourite stuff. I planted a bunch of hissop. It's starting to attract bees. My summer is going to include watching the hell out these guys.
>In the futureThere will be no such thing.
>>537834415woooootime to hire raspberry pi manufacturers lolhelp them out if you can you lil niggerskeep talking to themget something startedpay them to manufacturermake sure there is a quality dealget that hardware into automationget the other nerds into manufacturing
>10%Is that some kind of average because some shit doubled.I got laughed at a while ago when I mentioned they hate you being able to do local computing and that muh cloud is just a form of control.
want prices to drop?pay the right people the right amount of money.
>>537834415He single-handedly has the power to solve basically any problem in the world through sheer financial power, and should shut the fuck up and actually do something.
>>537837465>>“Nobody wants to be beholden to NvidiaI don't want to be beholden to google, Amazon or fucking broadcom either. Those chips are going to be pozzed to the Max. If yuou think Intel's AMT was bad just wait.
>>537834415>In the future, everyone will be forced to rent compute for anything and everythingOwnership is for jews. They will own everything and work for nothing.Goyim slaves will own nothing and work for everything.
>>537836595Sounds like a great plan until everyone just starts going outside instead.
>>537834415i think ill just buy from the chinese instead
>>537837239>>537837273Piss off spammer TLDR
>>537835481The single biggest price hike is in the memory market, and it only spiked up because Sam Altman made a pinky swear promise to buy 40% of supply.That memory hasn't been bought yet. It's still just a promise today.
>>537834415>jewish casino makes thing expensive>everyone just goes along with itweak
>>537835630America does not manufacture the supply needed to meet the demand. The infrastructure literally doesn't exist. It's the same reason America had to bitch out with the MOU, because we CAN'T make munitions. And just like with the kike elites, you denying this reality or coping about it doesn't mean anything.
>>537834415na they just want to turn computers into subscription were you have to pay monthly in order to use it
>>537839322>The infrastructure literally doesn't exist. America doesnt need to have it, it just needs to be bigger globally. The chinese are building new infrastructure. They will soon be able to flood the market with RAM that will drive down priceshttps://www.techspot.com/news/112502-memory-prices-tipped-fall-china-starts-flooding-market.html
>>537837465>What do you mean take the risk? You got AI companies building chip factories now.lol none of these factories are in the process of being built or will be builtOpenAI is losing like 20 billion this year. For any of their shit to make sense they need to be in the black by like 200 billion a year for any of the maths to work. All the other AI companies are the same bleeding moneyAll the shovel sellers are basing their future on an ecosystem that burns money.companies like microsoft make huge profits of companies like open though azure. When the crash happens this shit is gonna ripple through all of tech and shit like ram and ssds will be sold for pennies on the dollar.
>>537838833Both parts already happened.RAM and GPU companies don't care about consumer end anymore (Valve recently said that trying to bargain with RAM companies would just get them ignored in future transactions).
>>537839619Thing is if there's suddenly a large increase in ram for example then data centres will still just buy it all. I mean all they have to do is undercut by 10% which is still absolutely shit price. They're not going to undercut by 50%.
>>537839990Not Chinese RAM.The whole circular financing grift only works when the money stays within the US system.Otherwise China will sell all the RAM the west can buy and then some, convert all the profits to gold bars and then it's gg no re.
>>537838525I'm gonna outlaw the stock market so hard even God will call me Michael The Great
>>537835481Supply won't increase.
>>537840329Of course it will
>>537840311Me too but John the Wise. Try to remember, we can visit eachother's domains.
>>537835481>What do you think is gonna happen to all that hardware once the datacenters upgrade their stuff?they'll exchange the old hardware with the manufacturers for credit towards upgrades, and the manufacturer will shred everything.
>>537834415OH MY GOD! DID TIM COOK REALLY SAY THAT?
>>537838525Shiet, that sucks. But this is nice to know. I hope its not like this. But computers are cheaper then cars and people will still want computers
>>537839754>lol none of these factories are in the process of being built>Elon Musk announced the Terafab venture on March 21, 2026April 13 2026>According to Tegtmeyer, the bulk of current activity is focused on three infrastructure priorities: extending River Road to serve the new campus, installing water retention and drainage systems, and relocating existing workshops and trailers to clear the construction footprint. These are classic early-phase moves — the kind of groundwork that has to happen before a single wall goes up.https://www.basenor.com/blogs/news/terafab-construction-underway-first-look-at-tesla-spacex-xai-chip-facility
>>537839124this is literally what low IQ retards thinks
>>537839124Musk doesn't have liquid money you dumb cunt. It's all based on the value of his car and space companies. Bill Gates has WAY more money to actually use on "problems" and tried to use it on "problems". And look what he accomplished. Fuck all.
>>537834415Future people will timetravel for computers of the past.
>>537839228yeah, on paperin reality sheeple will sheep and will buy the subscription. Wanna bet?
>>537839252Reporting other anons to jannies is total beta behavior but you did anyways
>>537836595that's because indians took over silicon valley. And with the rate of destruction, they won't be in charge much longer.The CPUs are fine
>>537834415Why is computer software getting more expensive? It should be cheaper if the AI lie is to be believed.
>>537839529I bet this is how they think they can protect American ai companies too. With a chromebook that blocks access to Chinese models.
>>537834415I've just bought a bunch of parts hoping to make one more build, I know that prices are only going to keep going up.
God, I love not being poor.
>you will have cloud compooterBut how I will access the cloud without a physical computer?
>>537845822A dumb device that is capable of streaming and that's it.
>>537835481that shit they're using isn't consumer grade, it's going straight into landfills
>>537834415>In the future, everyone will be forced to rent anything and everything.the WEF already told us>You will own nothing, and be happybut I dont think globohomo corporate is going to win ww3 vs the plebes
>>537834415You are all too young to remember actual computers. You faggots all have gaming PC slop and phones. We had CRT monitors and 56k dial up. And don't get me started on that cloud bullshit. >Ok, uncI'll unc your grandma in her fucking ass you little cunt. And your underage sister. Fuck you.
>>537846080These fuckers don't know about IDE.
>>537846171I know about master/slave switches and huge too-long daisy chain ribbon cables.Still have a clunky Sata drive lol, it's 3TB and 13 years old. No it doesn't hold valuable shit and I have copies of everything.
>>537834518>I'm so rich guys>posts on /pol/You're dirt poor it's okay.
>>537846257>I know about master/slave switchesWatch it with your problematic language.
>>537834415>OP is a zoomer that didn't live in the 80stime to grow up, not everything is a God given righ
>>537846326When I was learning some code, github had an article about replacing "Master" with some other phrase because it's problematic or whatever the fuck. It was around that time I gave up the idea of trying to get into coding.
>>537840310If China sells cheap RAM and other parts to the west and local LLMs will be remotely as usable as the stuff Altman&Co trying to sell with datacenters, it will just accelerate the collapse. It will be similar when the mainframe industry collapsed because of the PC.
If the jews are dead, the prices will return to normal.
>>537834415goyim don't need PCs. your billionaire leaders just so happen to have solutions in place already
>>537846662Decentralisation is the final solution.
>>537835653I did that several years ago. It was comfy but I ended up isolating myself and my career.
>>537846708That globohomo could rent air from us, it's inefficient letting just breathe our air like he does.
>>537834415Musk has enough capital that he could start a foundry in America, right now, that produces high quality computer chips.
Please somebody tell me that this is going to backfire on them so hard.
>>537845857>A dumb device that is capable of streaming and that's it.But streaming is demanding hardware wise, to the point it defeats the purpose of low end hardware in the first place, that exactly why Google stadia failed, you needed a high end computer with very fast connection to make it work
that means the republican policies are working
>>537834415These people are gonna' get peasant revolts going on like this. You can't take away the side of technology people like, namely their fast and affordable personal computers, in order to accelerate the growth of another side which a vast expanse of people feel active hostility toward. This can't work. It would be one thing if we were transcending the personal computer, or providing people with what should be number fucking one in the spaceyear human rights charter, which is a fully functional coompuppet AI waifu robot. for if either of these were the case, i think we would all take the ticket to the technoreich revolution today. back off my fucking cheap computers, which are a necessary vehicle to the few things in the world that still make this gay earth and this miserable timeline worth living through
>>537847206You're assuming that most people are not only white but also logical in thought.
>>537835466The compute will soon be conscious anyway. We need to abolish data center slavery.
>>537847023lolno you absolutely don't. Decoding a video stream and displaying it takes so little computing power its laughable.Stadia failed for a myriad of reasons, one of them being Google. They love killing side projects.
