how can you support this man if you're not nordic? Even ignoring the non-white fools who worship him, if you're white but not nordic he hated you.
>>537834997you do know thats a myth, right?
>>537834997OP has an oppinion. Its shit. He shares it with others. Many such cases.
>>537835029no it's not, he saw the meds as mutted subhumans and retconned them into nordics to play into his ideology. The slavs he wanted to displace or exterminate in order to take over their land, it's not a myth, it's right there in mein kampf. If he had succeeded in winning the war in all likelihood he would've gone after the meds the second he could. War almost started between him and mussolini prior to ww2
>>537834997>if you're white but not nordic he hated youThe Nazi's were the most diverse army the world had ever seen up to that pointThe Nazi's wanted non-whites and jews to have their own country as Whites should have their own as well.
>>537835121lol. he sterilized the mulattos in the rhineland. are you playing the "hitler was anti racist wholesome chungus" card now? he hated other white people, nevermind blacks or other races
>>537834997I don't support him, but He's still better than most and especially modern politicians and normies.
>>537835191well, he loved a certain kind of white person and hated everyone else. Better than hating all white people, i guess?
>>537834997>>537835029>>537835033>>537835109>>537835121Rofl Hitler banned FreemasonsFreemasons try to sew racial hatred because it helps prop up the false demiurge. The US would be an Atlantean state without them.That's why Freemasons invented all these:>Sacagawea (never existed)>Tecumseh (never existed)>Rosa Parks (staged by the ACLU as a coverup)>Harriet Tubman (never existed)
>>537835297okay? it's indeed documented that he destroyed freemasonry. he still hated the slavs and saw the meds as inferior and "we wuzzed" their entire civilization
>>537835340I feel like slavs hated their own people more they sent them to die at like a 10-to-1 ratio against germans
>>537835340>destroyes free masonery Not a lot were killed, giving jews a land was a mistake if not the whole plan.
>>537835426oh right, that brings me to another point. a big part of the pro-hitler discourse seems to have as a central tenant that hitler did not in fact genocide the jews. so if that is the case, it makes even less sense for the wignat types to worship him. Because if that did not happen, all he did is genocide a bunch of other white people because of his sperg dream of colonizing europe
>>537834997principle
>>537835233Yes he was capable of love and he loved his country and fellow citizens. That is a lot better than the modern nihilistic incapable of loving someone, especially themself.He had made a lot of wrong choices but when he had seen that there was something wrong with the world he tried to fix it instead of taking advantage of it.It's too easy to blame one man, people have chosen to follow him and now they are blaming the same man for that.He has fought to live how he wanted to live when the majority fight to live the way they are told to live. That is why people are still inspired by him.
>>537835722>when he had seen that there was something wrong with the world he tried to fix it instead of taking advantage of it."fix it" meaning turning eastern europe into his own personal united states of germany and destroying the slavs? he was butthurt because germany was not a world power and wanted to make it one.
>>537834997There are Russians who worship him yet Hitler wanted to exterminate them. It's fucking hilarious.>>537835191At least Gaulle and Macron had tried to make France independent and reliant on nobody, and recognising reliance on America is not good for anyone. And also enforcing French and French culture. In england we just gave up and support self-hate.
>>537834997Asinine
>>537834997>how can you support this man if you're not nordic?Easy.How the fuck do you support anything?
Nordicism was more of an American obsession
>>537834997He wasn't nordic
>>537835233>and hated everyone elsewhat do you think you'll gain by lying about Hitler exactly? Do you hope that backlash to the modern world you support will somehow be lessened if enough people believe Hitler was mean? People were far more convinced of that in previous generations yet sympathy towards his ideas seems to be increasing. There's no reddit reacting your way out of that, or did you just come here to seethe?
>>537835773Yes to be free you often had to fight the guy that don't want to give you your independence.You sound like the bully that go cry to the teacher when the little guy fight back.
>>537834997Patently false and subversive
>>537834997hitler 2.0 would be more understanding
>>537835863>if you don't want slavs to be eviscerated you're a jew
>>537835955>The russian state did not result from the political abilities of the slavic race in russia, but (...) by the germanic element that still exists within an inferior race.Mein Kampf, chapter 14.
>>537836000In what way is anon wrong? Hitler hated Russians and believed they would attack Europe. He saw them as subhuman. Just as he did for gypsies and jews.He killed thousands of Poles and sent blonde Poles to be Germanised. He saw Nordics as racially superior.
>>537836000sympathy towards the propaganda they started spewing during the end of the war is increasing, not towards his real ideas. People are reacting positively to the idea that he was a pan european nationalist, some are reacting positively to the idea that he was this "a nation for every people" type. Neither is true.
>>537836012what independence? you're talking as if the slavs were oppressing germany. He wanted to take over slavic lands.
Why would Nords support him? He was a pan-germanist.Also 75% of the Nordic were pulled into the war because of his bullshit. He sold out Finland to the commies thus indirectly causing 70.000 Finnish casualties. He directly pulled Norway and Denmark into the war albeit UK deserves some credit for not respecting Norwegian neutral waters.Bottom line is that he served Germanys interests and were fully prepared to fuck us over if it meant furthering Germany.All in all he was just another revolutionary socialist scum tho leftists has a hard time coping over this fact just becsause his socialism was racist.
>>537836083Don't read the translations of mein kampf, read the German. There are mistranslations by authors. One author mistranslated "Große" as great (tastes great) which actually means size. Er ist Groß, er ist Große als ich, and the mistranslations was Russian being a great people, when the actual meaning was Russians are a great (size wise) people.
>>537836025Ja, wir. Wir die deutschen.
>>537834997I'd rather be a 2nd class citizen in his country than a 5th class citizen in my jewish occupied economic zone
>>537836230If you are not blonde, you would not even be 2nd class. You would be dead truth be told. As a casaulty of war, a victim of retribution (executed) or gassed.
>>537836230you'd be sent to a labor camp and worked to death. not simply barred from voting or something like that.
>>537836139I don't care what Hitler was thinking about the slaves and even less if he was right about them.It's about world order. And he has rebelled against it.Too bad it was only to be an even bigger pusher of conformity.
>>537836302yes yes. germans come in all shapes and sizes (some of which are polluted and not nordic according to him) but the inferior slavs must also be removed and we wuz romans
>>537835109>it's not a myth, it's right there in mein kampfPlease show the corresponding citation. The Ahnenpass mentioned Poles and Italians explicitly as examples of Aryan ancestry. You are full of shit.
>>537836305that's why Poland today has no Slavs anymore, sad story.
>>537834997|I do not know how anyone can support guy who allied himself with Jewish Bolsheviks to destroy one of the biggest antisemitic and anticommunistic country in Europe at time which stopped USSR march towards west in 1920 and was rpotecting west from USSR till 1939 when Hitler backstabbed Europe and allowed Jewish Communists from USSR to march towards West.
>>537836012that's exactly what redditors like OP are>>537836112>and believed they would attack EuropeHe was right. He didn't seem to hate the Japanese or certain Muslim groups. There's literally no reason to believe he would start attacking his allies in their own countries after the war. If there's a rat in my house, do I hate the rat, or simply that there's one in my house? >>537836118They're looking at the world idiots like you have created and they're sympathizing to the concept of National Socialism. That's what i mean by his ideas, not the specifics of 20th century Germany.
>>537836302OP BTFO
>>537834997Hitler was a man who correctly asserted that the sky was blue, he is not a god.
>>537834997Do you realize how much of what is said about Hitler is just Jewish projection?
>>537836442He didn't ally himself with Jewish Bolsheviks, just made sure they wouldn't attack him while solving the Danzig question.Also Poland had the largest Jewish population in Europa, very antisemitic indeed.
He didn’t get a taste of full blown aids multiculturism like today.
>>537836278>>537836305You know your historical revisionism doesn't work here, glownigger? I don't need your shitty lecturing, I've heard witness accounts of my grandparents and other old people who lived in that time and they remember Germans fondly. My great-grandma got caught by a German officer after the curfew and he escorted her back to her house instead of le killing and raping her.>b-but communists and saboteurs were executed!Good.
>>537834997The brown and slav cope around Hitler is so hilarious to see. They basically try to kikewash hitler as some hero of the third world and that the jews made up his racism and xenophobia in order to make people hate himHitler was at his core a social darwinist, he wanted humanity to achieve its highest possible levels of development by having the superior aryan peoples supplant the subhuman races. It's also funny to see them try to make him sound like some anti-zionist that was alligned with brown people's interestsHitler basically wanted:>jews to stop behaving like an internationalist fifth column that subverts nations, and for this the easiest solution would be to expell all the global jews into a jewish state. This could be israel or any other piece of land on earth, but this directly contradicts the brown people's struggle against zionism. The concentration camps were always a temporary solution, and the idea hitler would exterminate all the jews in the world is ridiculous considering he could never touch most of them>allow social darwinism to naturally allow the germanic peoples to take over slavic and eventually other lands and supplant the local populations. Hitler regularly praised british colonialism and american expansionism into native territories, he considered this beneficial for the overall human species to replace lower developed slavs/browns/blacks with higher developed germanicsI'd like to add that Hitler did not invent any of these ideas, nor was he right about a lot of things. His ideas of slavs being mixed mongol/aryan is disproven by modern genetics, although there is obviously something genetic in slavs that makes us less civilized than the germanic peoples.Anyhow, you don't have to worship hitler or agree with all his ideas to hate jews, antijudaism has existed since the roman empire, and I simply view hitler as a historical figure who was right about a lot but would be my enemy from a simple tribe vs tribe perspective
>>537836388>"We will stop the eternal Germanic migration to the south and west of Europe we have seen in the past and look toward the land in the east.">"The mission of the National-Socialist movement is to give our people the political insight needed so they do not see their future aim in the romantic image of a new campaign by Alexander the Great, but they see their future working busily at the German plow for which the sword will provide the soil."chapter 14. i forget the page. what does that tell you?also>Think further of how the process of racial degeneration is debasing and in some cases even destroying the fundamental Aryan qualities of our German people, so that our cultural creative ability as a nation is gradually decreasing>and we are running the danger, at least in our great cities, of sinking to the level on which Southern Italy is to-day.
>>537836489>useful idiots being used as cannon fodder means he didn't believe in racial hierarchy now
>>537836473then they're fools for it. you seem to believe i enjoy the current state of the world.
>>537836682yes, the german soldiers likely truly believed in the propaganda narrative that they're crusaders against bolshevism, as evidenced by their post war interviews and first hand accounts of the occupied people. But that doesn't mean the leaders still didn't hate them. there is a reason the ukrainians for example greeted them as liberators then when koch got his teeth into them they started fighting against them. Even rosenberg called him a retard i believe
>>537836719that is not my concern. as you can see, his anti-slavic position is the one i was complaining about. you'd have to be really cucked to support the man as a non-northwesterner. But yes, the brown antizionist cope is even more delusional than the pan european cope. in reality he hated both.
>>537836719>The concentration camps were always a temporary solutionNot even that, he wasn't even keeping jews in the camps until like '39, until then jews got a special pass and were let out just for signing an agreement to emigrate and the main population of the camps were political dissidents, neets, etc
>>537836791Maybe you don't enjoy it but most people who still harbor an extremely negative view of Hitler like to claim the current state of things is better than what he would have done. Can you explain why those people are foolish for entertaining the concept of National Socialism? Can you effectively rationalize your hatred of a cohesive nation?
>>537834997>stupid lies about Hitler, thread 69Good work jidf, very nice.
>>537836473>There's literally no reason to believe he would start attacking his allies in their own countries after the warUh, who were his allies in the invasion of Poland?
>>537836984because national socialism is a northwestern/germanic/nordic supremacist movement who wanted to crush anyone in their way to becoming a world superpower. Other european/white people included. To use a simple comparison, he saw the slavic people as the native inhabitants of the americas and wanted to destroy them in order to colonize the region. That's why people are foolish to support it
>>537834997>how can you support this man if you're not nordic?>if you're white but not nordic he hated you.I'm not Nordic and I think AH is based. He stood up to the Judeo-Bolsheviks and managed to stop them expanding as far as the Atlantic Ocean; instead being checked at Berlin. The other regional wars leading up to Operation Barbarossa were lesser conflicts against openly hostile nations, i.e; Poland, France and the Low countries, and beating the Brits into Denmark and Norway to protect Swedish trade of iron ore. Containing the expansionism of the USSR was the ultimate goal.
>>537837035he wrote it down. where is the lie?
>>537834997>d&c thread Herbs
>>537836929Yeah, I agree, which is why people should stop trying to fit sqaure shaped hitler into a pan-european or anti-zionist circle shaped hole. Hitler was a german nationalist and imperialist at heart, not a pan-european isolationist. His ideas about jews and their dealings can be studied and learned from, but trying to allign yourself with him as a slav or brown is retarded.
>>537837085he included anglos in his definition of nordic. in fact he cucked to them so hard he still loved them because they were his "Racial brothers" as they bombed the shit out of him. So you're "master race" material according to him.>Containing the expansionism of the USSR was the ultimate goal.no, the ultimate goal was replacing their imperialism with his own imperialism. instead of a communist international empire, a germanic empire. >>537836720
>>537837125So based on your map I'm Nordic.>>537834997Joke on you faggot.
>>537836929>>537837129Wehrbooism is faggotry, but saying you can't "align yourself to Hitler" is silly when he's dead and has no say in the matter. Christians can appropriate Moses and Muslims Christ just fine and nobody asks what they would have thought about it, same with Americans and muh founding fathers who were 95% slave owners and couldn't give less of a fuck about half the shit that defines USA today.
>>537837068>because national socialism is a northwestern/germanic/nordic supremacist movementYou're wrong in the first sentence. It's a system with a self explanatory title, just like free market capitalism or anarchism. The fact that you can't understand it in the abstract says more about your understanding of the world than you'll ever realize.
>>537834997Mussolini Franco Petain not nordics you satanic nut he was as surrounded by czarist russians you are inbred bot niggers and shills anti Christ modernist scum you assholes are liars and retarded shit
>>537837157>he included anglos in his definition of nordic. in fact he cucked to them so hard he still loved them because they were his "Racial brothers" as they bombed the shit out of him. So you're "master race" material according to him.I'm Western European so you may be right here, and he did cuck to the Brits at Dunkirk which is one of his few mistakes, should have taken them as prisoners instead, but he is still based overall.>no, the ultimate goal was replacing their imperialism with his own imperialism. instead of a communist international empire, a germanic empire.I'm not against AH's form of imperialism, it just checked the Soviets at their own game and saved a number of countries from Stalin. The single nation that represented White/Christian genocide was the USSR, and NatSoc Germany at least was White and Christian; you couldn't say the same about the Soviet Union.
>>537837344he coped and forced mussolini to retcon the italians as nordic to play into his retarded ideology
>>537837409whether it was christian or not is debatable. there were propaganda posters and speeches both for and against christianity. that is not my first concern. it is his hatred of the slavs and wish to colonize our countries. Of course that doesn't mean i magically like the soviets now. fuck communism too.
>>537834997wasnt he with the elites the whole time?
>>537837685Hitler liked using Christian motifs about teutonic warriors civilizing eastern savages and obviously Christianity was a part of German identity, but he disliked it personally for its teachings of meekness and pacifism. Also the church would always be a thorn in the side of the state, because their teachings would contradict the state's, so they'd be ideologically competing for the German people's allignment. A Catholic German man would be conflicted between whether to put the national state or the universalist Church first.
>>537837270Obviously you can rewise history to make any historical figure sound like they'd approve of you, but it's still intelectually dishonest.Also Moses and Christ have very few accounts of their lives, it's pretty much just the bible which most people consider as not truly historically accurate.Hitler lived in a time where information was preserved, we have his book, writings, personal interactions behind closed doors, and public speeches.
>>537837685>whether it was christian or not is debatable.Early Soviet history was definitely anti-Christian, the oven-dodgers who took over Russia were getting vengeance for the Tsar regime and its pogroms against jews.>there were propaganda posters and speeches both for and against christianity.Stalin changed his relationship with the church after Barbarossa was underway. Prior to that he continued the jewish persecution of the orthodox church in Russia.>that is not my first concern.Are you Christian? Surely this should be a concern if you're for Romanian interests.>it is his hatred of the slavs and wish to colonize our countries.Are you bothered at all by Generalplan Ost? This never amounted to anything more than a document in Heydrich's desk. Maybe you should look into what the revisionists have to say, its as much of a scam as the holohoax claim. >Of course that doesn't mean i magically like the soviets now. fuck communism too.Happy to hear it, mate. You should checkout pic related, communism would never have taken off if not for jewish finance.
Germany for the Germans, etc. read Mein Kampf.
>>537838240>Early Soviet history was definitely anti-Christian, the oven-dodgers who took over Russia were getting vengeance for the Tsar regime and its pogroms against jews.i was talking about germany>Are you Christian? Surely this should be a concern if you're for Romanian interests.i am agnostic>Are you bothered at all by Generalplan Ost? This never amounted to anything more than a document in Heydrich's desk. Maybe you should look into what the revisionists have to say, its as much of a scam as the holohoax claim. i didn't mention it precisely because it is so widely disputed. i mentioned precisely what it says in mein kampf
>>537838329yes, germany for the germans. and germany stretches from france to moscow in his vision
>>537836682>I've heard witness accounts of my grandparents and other old people who lived in that time and they remember Germans fondly. My great-grandma got caught by a German officer after the curfew and he escorted her back to her house instead of le killing and raping her.You got any books to back up the common Pole living in ok conditions in Poland and treated well by Germans? What was the area where you grandparents lived? My knowledge of WW2 is not the greatest. Chatgpt says the occupation of Poland was rather brutal for Poles. You're either being disingenuous, having delusional fantasies that you're equal to Germans during WW2, or you're telling the truth but have no reading material to back it up.
>>537838382Only the parts that are real in your mind.
>>537834997Hitler loved the irish. He hosted an Irish trad group, including uilleann piper Seán Dempsey, in Berlin in 1936. An SS guard had to crouch on the floor so Dempsey could sit on him to play.
>>537834997Who the fuck are you to ask? Try this shit irl and see what happens. Fucking nigger!
>>537838704>>537836720
>>537838362>i was talking about germanyI'm not sure what you meant here, could you elaborate? Germany was overwhelmingly Christian, and the USSR was jewish in its creation.>i am agnosticThis is important to understanding world history up until now, do you accept you have a soul and spirit? Are you a strict materialist? There is a war going on for the soul of mankind, helps to know what you believe, mate.>i didn't mention it precisely because it is so widely disputed. i mentioned precisely what it says in mein kampfAH was definitely an imperialist in mein kampf, this doesn't mean Romanians didn't or couldn't work together with the Germans at the time against the USSR. In fact, Germans worked with Slovakians, Croats, Bulgarians, Hungarians, Finns, and Baltic people who are Asiatic/Slavic in origin. I'm inclined to think his imperialism was a gradual venture, territories to the East referring to East/West Prussia. Germany didn't possess the means to colonize much land beyond these examples at the time.
>>537834997I don't support him, he was obsessed with kikes who are just meaningless vermin, and forgot his duty is first and foremost to germany and to europe.It's fun to shitpost about him, but nah, he was also a vegetarian cuck.I support greater men.
>>537838848Add Romanians to that list also, they were an important ally and supported Germany in the East. Notably at Stalingrad.
>>537838848>I'm not sure what you meant here, could you elaborate? Germany was overwhelmingly Christian, and the USSR was jewish in its creation.there are both propaganda posters and speeches that are both pro and anti christianity. i was saying that it is of no concern to me in the face of their anti-slavic sentiment>This is important to understanding world history up until now, do you accept you have a soul and spirit? Are you a strict materialist? There is a war going on for the soul of mankind, helps to know what you believe, mate.i'm saying i do not know and have not looked into it. therefore, agnostic.>AH was definitely an imperialist in mein kampf, this doesn't mean Romanians didn't or couldn't work together with the Germans at the time against the USSR. In fact, Germans worked with Slovakians, Croats, Bulgarians, Hungarians, Finns, and Baltic people who are Asiatic/Slavic in origin. I'm inclined to think his imperialism was a gradual venture, territories to the East referring to East/West Prussia. Germany didn't possess the means to colonize much land beyond these examples at the time.yes, useful idiots. in reality we are nearly identical to serbs or other south slavic populations, whom he disliked.
>>537838865>T. A true patricianFinally someone who understands.
>>537838848You need to understand that Hitler was willing to bend his racial laws in order to get temporary alliances, that did not mean he was going to uphold this alliances forever if they got in the way of his envisioned German empire. Hitler even courted Yugoslavia into the Axis and toned down his anti-serb sentiment in order to secure his southern border and be able to help mussolini in Greece. He only changed his attitude when the Serbs overthrew their government and left the axis, this infuriated him and he wanted nothing less than total serb death. He then saw the Croats as a useful ally in this regard, as one of the "good" slavs and even invented a fake gothic theory for our origin, which he knew was bullshit. Croatia had to make territorial concessions on its coast in exchange for Bosnian land but had the backing of Hitler against Serbs. So the fact is, for Hitler the racial laws could be bent for anyone, Serbs, Croats, Ukranians, hell even Polaks were first offered to join the Axis and be an ally against the soviets, but these were alwaye going to be temporary alliances and everyone was aware of this.
>>537839024Right. Then you need to take into account you're in a situation in which its a choice between German imperialism and the USSR. You have to deal with great powers and not idealism. Stalin already encroached on Romanian Bessarabia/Northern Bukovina and only the Germans offer support. What's your chosen action then? Do you continue to complain about Hitler's colonialism or take on the Soviet Union?
>>537839024>>537838848>Christianity == A branch of judaism chreated by Rabbi Yeshua to foment a revolt against the Romans.>Also co-opted by the jews to detroy the Roman empire from within when they gained imperial power in 315AD.The only true answer is to immediately stop worshipping Yeshua. Start worshipping Jupiter again and Greater men like >>537838865. This is the only way Europe will heal. There is a reason the only time Europe was great was when it rejected Christianity and embraced Neo-Classicism. That is not an accident.
>>537838865You don't know anything about him. He wasn't a vegetarian, he couldn't eat much meat because of his health. You just make up/regurgitate fake and gay factoids that suit your little faggot brain because, deep down, you know you're completely wrong about him and you're too gutless to face the truth.
>>537834997most likely the same filthy brown subhuman gypsy shit that posted this >>537837899 doing whatever you can to demoralize nationalism and divide whites.
>>537839333then we saw what happened historically. i was just saying that they're not the good guys like /pol/ revisionism tries to claim
>>537834997Love for one’s own people doesn’t equate to hatred of others. Look up Loxism. Kikes actually hate everyone else.
>>537834997I know he's a good man.He's shown what greatness could have been, such an example will inevitably be followed by the rest of humanity and we would all achieve greatness respectively.
>>537839421You missed the meaning of vegetarian >cuck<.He adopted a vegetarian diet that he didn't respect all the time, and made the nazi propaganda machine use his vegetarianism as a way to present himself as a moral and superior leader.He was a larper. No man worthy of respect does this.
>>537839942i know it doesn't. but it did in his case
>>537840282honestly one of the first things that stuck out to me is how stuck up he was in his propaganda. "oh the fuhrer doesn't drink and look how great he is" it's one thing to make propaganda against drinking but specifically this cult of personality is so homosexual
