CEASEFIRE BROKEN BY IRAN, WE'RE GOING BACK TO WAR!!!!
>>537852730SHOW ME YOUR WW3 FACES /POL/ SISTERS!!!!
>>537852765
>>537852730time for mutts to lose a second time
>>537852730>iran brokeIsrael promised they werent withdrawing from lebanon. Theyve been breaking it the entire time.>Friday
>>537852850How the FUCK is it an iranian victory
you lost iranny
>>53785273039 cease fire agreements and still ongoing. Do MIGA rats ever get tired of this guy's antics?
>Ultra mega happening!>Retaliation scheduled in two weeks!
>>537852850That timeline should begin withMidnight hammer, which was a year ago today. Or further back to the exchanges they had with israel earlier in 25
>>537852850Iran needs some wins after Trump has declared victory like a dozen times now.
>>537852730Is he talking about the fake Ceasefire Agreement?
>>537852908Because Reuters told him so.
>>537852765>SHOW ME YOUR WW3 FACES /POL/ SISTERS!!!!
>>537852730>transversingkek this is a actual sitting president
>>537852908>How the FUCK is it an iranian victoryThe US has failed to achieve any strategic goals. Iran is the defending army.
>>537852730Can we please just eliminate this backwards national off the face of the earth? Kill them all to the last man, woman, and future terrorist. Islam is a scourge
>>537852908>start the fight>repeatedly ask for cease fires>capitulate to humiliating demands>this is a win somehow
>>537852908They’ve proved that they can close the straight. The entire global economy is in their hands.
>>537852730Oh Lord, it's happooning!
>>537852850> the shitlibs at Wikipedia say Who cares what the shitlibs at Wikipedia say? The site is literally run by and edited by Redditors.
>>537852730>violate the ceasefireyou mean the one israel violated by not withdrawing from lebanon in 24 hours after it was signed you jewish cum guzzler?
>>537852945yes. I'd rather we just carpet bomb Tehran into submission. I just don't quite get why we've been so soft militarily on Iran. I know we're trying to keep civilian deaths to a minimum (for reference, only 3600 civilians were killed in Iran compared to the 100k+ civilians in Iraq). But people die in war, it happens. Its better to be brutal and end the war quickly than let this drag out for years and cause needless suffering.
The hard truth is we will never be free of the Middle Eastern desert people and their antics until we just reduce the whole region to rubble. The Israelis are unironically right about this. They just don’t realize it includes them to. As long as these people are allowed to live there in anything more than a totally barbarian tribal state, they can always bring other economies to their knees simply because we will never get off oil. People need to wake up to the fact that the Arab Muslims are literally the worst people who ever lived and they will continue to be a threat to everyone in the world as long as they are allowed to be.
>>537853181>for jews
It's Friday. Orange Ceasar is gonna crash out shortly.
What is Irans reason for hitting them? Did they not have permission? Did they not pay Irans fee? Is Iran just closing it down for everyone again? What’s the story here?
>>537852730Nah it was just some random IRGC chimp having a meltdown. The ships passed anyway lol
>>537853181I'd rather we not do anything for jews, tell everyone the strait is closed because Israel can' stop being faggots, blame it all on them, and end the relationships with them
>>537853181>carpet bomb Tehran into submissionDidn’t work against japan
We are abolishing war you faggots.www.project537.com
>>537853212What if we did a big sterilization program?
>>537852908its called cope and its how cargo cult niggers deal with the compulsion to compare themselves to god and come up short
>ww3 lol this is all you burgersenjoy your quagmire
picrel
>>537852874What an anti-semitic thing to say
>>537852730>ww3 imminent!Good. End this farce of a world order. Embrace violence.
>>537853284>we are abolishing war the feminists and progressives literally always say this and they are the ones who cause all of the conditions of war. Fuck off
>>537853369>Embrace violence.War and Inflation are tools, tools of you know who. Don't fall for it. We have connected 6 of 8 billion humans to each other -- it's time to put an end to it.And NO, government won't do it, WE have to do it.
>>537853286Thermobaric explosions and nuclear fallout do a really good job of sterilizing everyone and everything. Just saying.
>>537853403>the feminists and progressives literally always say this and they are the ones who cause all of the conditions of war. Fuck offRead what I wrote retard.
>>537852730i'd fully embrace Iran dropping a nice fat hypersonic missile on the white house
>>537853040Dubya was even funnier
>>537853213>>537853259I hate Israel for meddling in US affairs just as much as most people do now, but Iranian regime is objectively just as evil if not moreso. I can't really blame Israel for taking such an aggressive stance after the October invasion a couple years ago. Israel needs to stop trying to push their borders and the Muslims need to stop trying to attack Israel. Both are fuck ups.
>>537853457You have to hate Iran otherwise you are an anti-American communist muslim lover
>>537853457You assume we WANT to be "connected" to those billions of "humans".We do not.
>>537853181>I just don't quite get why we've been so soft militarily on IranBecause the World Cup is taking place in USA. Russia launched their War after the last World Cup ended
>>537852730>transversing
>>537853280>that one anon who doesn't know what the firebombing of tokyo wasit worked perfectly, completely crippled their country.
>>537852765THIS IS SGT CHUD NEED ARTILLERY SUPPORT ASAP.
>WW1>All of the world's globespanning empires and great & middle powers form two coalitions that battle across the heartlands of the worlds industrial economies, tens of millions, rendering entire swathesbof countryside uninhabitable, toppling several empires and permanently rewriting the world order>WW2>A coalition of rogue great powers topple all of their regional rivals before facing a cataclysmic globe-spanning conflict against virtually all of the human race, during which tens of millions die, landscapes are transformed, entire cities annihilated to the last stone and two wiped from mao in nuclear hellfire, leaving in its wake a bipolar world order spearheaded by new emergent powers>WW3>Two retards bicker over a waterway and hurl temu toys at each other while the world pays slightly more for gas and like 30 people die, mostly school children.Even World Wars are facing enshittification
>>537852730Irradiate their country. Make sure their skin starts falling off the minute they step outside
>market manipulation again
>>537853555This anon is correct. That sounds fucking horrible and I'd even consider killing to ensure that does NOT happen.
>>537852730NUKE TEHRAN NOW
>>537853280It worked great against Japan. If it doesn't work on Iran, that just means you need to carpetbomb more, not less.
>>537852908>How the FUCK is it an iranian victoryYou voted for this, now we're all paying for it....dipshit.
trump has not once even condemned israel for violating ceasefire or done anything about it. he did tell syrian isis to invade lebanon though.
>>537852730Not a violation, the ship didnt pass through the predetermined route
>>537853280Of all the examples you could have used, that is possibly the worst one.
>>537852730why does he talk like a fucking toddler?
>>537852908US is the attacker and failed to achieve its strategic objective. Iran being the defender simply has to stop American from achieving its strategic goal to win.
>>537852908>>537853019>>537853122>>537853292Look, you exceptionally dumb retards: What is the purpose of starting war? To achieve political aims you can't do with diplomacy. When you're the defender different rules apply.When you as the attacker ZERO of your strategic and political aims, you have lost. Point blank period. Take your third world spic logic back to your favela mudhuts, shitskins.
just imagine if Zognald was a slave to Israel miggers wouldn't be stuck in this perpetual humiliation ritual hell
If you thought the USA wasnt going back to war you are an abject retard. Our government is zogged from top to bottom
>>537853851So, firebombing tokyo made japan surrender?
Boots WILL be on the ground by year's end. It's the only path forward.
>>537852730>BY IRANI wonder who would benefit from a false flag attack here?
>>537853794Didn't he publically talk shit about Netanyahu, call him crazy, say if it wasn't for him his ass would already be in jail, call Israel the "small" partner in this foreign policy adventure, and a bunch of other shit I probably forgot. It'd be great if he nuked Tel Aviv too but that doesn't mean he never talked shit
>>537852730>CEASEFIRE BROKEN BY IRAN, WE'RE GOING BACK TO WAR!!!!This war will never end because it can't. It literally can't. Only two things will end it. A ground invasion that costs more money and American lives than the entire GWoT by a very large margin. Or nukes. Both are off the tableWhy don't we just end it by walking away?>Israel won't let usIndia is FUCKED (see picrel)
>>537853057It's literally as simple as this. All wars are political -- in fact, according to Clausewitz, they are not only political but actually the continuance of politics by other means. The point here is not to be pedantic but to say that wars, like politics, must be goal oriented if they want to be successful. Trump's entire philosophy is to "win," often absent any further consideration at all. He doesn't even necessarily care to know HOW to win -- he will just try to first bully his way into his desired outcome and then lie about its failure if it doesn't succeed. Apparently, that's enough to win the presidency, but I'd argue that's only because the ultimate outcome is actually simple and well defined. To win, you get more votes in more states than your opponent. Everyone agrees (well...) that this is how the game is played. It's testable and concrete. Wars are the opposite. Trump's inability to even establish what winning looks like is the failure here. Iran -- quite like Trump in 2020, ironically -- can simply decide that it doesn't respect Trump's definition of victory. It can contest it and it can force Trump to actually make his asserted version of reality... real. You know, instead of just what's said on TV. You always go in with a stopping condition. You go in knowing what you mean to accomplish so you can tell where you are with respect to where you want the war to go. When you hit or fail those goals, you end the war. Trump's just incompetent.
>>537853993So bombing Japan did nothing?
>>537852959>well ackshuallyKEK
>>537854079> Didn't he publically talk shit about Netanyahu, call him crazy, say if it wasn't for him his ass would already be in jail, call Israel the "small" partner in this foreign policy adventure, and a bunch of other shit no he didn’t. he’s merging the us military with IDF and told syrian isis to invade lebanon. oh and he’s gonna protect israel if struck by iran. uou are a retarded ass goy.
>>537853020hot old women are like handsome midgets
>>537852908Can you name a single casus belli for starting the war? Was it regime change or was it denuclearization? Or was it a secular crusade against islam? There have been no clearly outlined objectives to serve as a basis entering the conflict, we wasted billions of dollars to achieve nothing, and Iran still controls the strait.
>>537854080we can only hope they run out of fuel before they realize and try to leave their shithole to consume other countries
>>537852908strait is still impededeuro oil shock tanking economynatural gas peaked 10 years agoai bubble popping at the worst possible timeUS being 10x Iran means all Iran needs to do to win is not lose American Revolution styleeconomic factors are making this a very bad move on the US's partthe fact that the ceasefire that Iran just broke included tolls for a previously tollless strait doesn't help mattersIran went into this a 2nd world country and now they're a player on the global scale inspite or maybe because of of us completely decimating their military and infrastructure21st century is fascinating from a war perspective
>>537853181I'd like to think most Americans aren't impotent bloodthirsty psychopaths like this jew cattle.
>>537852730don't worry anon. i think you'll find in the memorandum of understanding, breaking the ceasefire by iran is permitted.
>>537852908>Pick a fight>Accomplish 0 objectives >Occupy 0 territory >Suffer billions in damage >Sign a humiliating peace deal that imposes a 300 billion dollar indemnity on you>The other side flagrantly violates the deal anyways, knowing the buck is already broken.No matter what deal Trump signs or how Vance spins it, Iran is just going to simply not comply with any restrictions on its control over Hormuz or it's nuclear program, because they know you've been beaten.America lost its bases, lost its gulf allies, lost billions, lost the strait, lost the "dust" and lost the plot. You lost. It's time to stop coping and start demanding accountability from the leaders that somehow lost you a second war against cave dwelling goat farmers in the span of a decade.
>>537854216>no he didn’tOkay.>Trump was asked by a journalist about an Axios report that he had called Netanyahu "effing crazy" and accused him of ingratitude during a phone call on Monday.>"I did," Trump told the Pod Force One podcast in an interview broadcast on Wednesday. "I wouldn't say angry. I was a little bit perturbed at his constantly fighting with Lebanon, you know."The problem with some people is that they're so all or nothing they wind up making themselves look fucking stupid.
>>537852730Ahh so the tactic is to make Iran the aggressor I get it now.
>>537854407Sadly, they are. Most Americans are loathsome slugs, incapable of abstract thought.
>>537852765its time
>>537854407The truth is, war is a tv show. No one actually cares any more than whether ross and rachel will end up together.
>>537853996>left the GOP to join Mojtaba's council of Imam's
>>537854484Probably the whole point of this bullshit MoU ceasefire was to use it as part of a pretext for escalating the war
>>537854470ok does trump’s comments in anyway shape or form change the fact he’s ZOG and completely owned by the Epstein class who is merging US military with IDF? trump also said no new wars. how that work out?
>>537854080hold, Israel back it's that easy
>>537852765Carl this is the 60th WW3 face post youve made this year
>>537852730Why are all Asian ceasefires completely pointless?
>>537854631You said Trump had never once condemned Israel for fucking with Lebanon. That's easily disproven and undermines your point. I don't even disagree with you, just think a bit more before you type.
>>537854735holy moly....
>>537854158Why cant miggers comprehend anything more than basic concepts?
>>537854937and does anyone remember him saying that? a few months ago he was talking about how gas prices were lowest in history. it’s meaningless when he enables israel to cause more conflict with iran.
>>537853539>but Iranian regime is objectively just as evil if not moresoif only you actually knew how bad Israel is for the future of humanity as a species, it's order of magnitudes worse than what you think you know
>>537854937>Trump: please oh please stop it in lebanon>netnyahoo: no>Trump: okay, we’ll stay at war with iran foreverSo much condemnation
>>537853914oh yeah dumb nigger? so empire invades shithole, goal is to make them embrace christ...result is total obliteration and genocide of shithole people and culture, replaced by bombing and mercenary immigration....now according to your DUMB NIGGER FAGGOT COCK SWALLOWING DIPSHIT BRAINLESS FAGGOT SCUM SUCKING ASSthe empire has lost that war because those original people are extinct and cannot embrace christ in this life.now go to the corner put on dunce cap and never open that cocksucker again until i need to nut.
>>537854752It really should have been obvious from day 1 that Iran wasn't going to actually follow the conditions of any deal. The whole reason that Iran is an issue is that the US has been making deals with it to limit nuclear proliferation for 30 years and it has not once complied. Iran's leadership has learned that the US signs these agreements because it's terrified of getting bogged down in a quagmire, and has learned that the US does not have the will to hold them accountable to the terms.They sign a deal, get free sanctions relief, violate the deal, face no consequences and the whole cycle repeats. And it will happen again here. They'll block the strait again, impose a toll, deny access to nuclear inspectors and pocket 300 billion US taxpayer dollars for the trouble.
>>537855225>The whole reason that Iran is an issue is that the US has been making deals with it to limit nuclear proliferation for 30 years and it has not once complied.Why don't they have nukes if they haven't complied? Are you even thinking about what you're writing or just letting your fingers go wild?
>>537853181>I'd rather we just carpet bomb Tehran into submission.Try it and see what happens :^)
>>537852730How do you know its not some "personal-beef", or a outlying-force of Death-Before-Dishonor Rag-Head Butt-Hole-Worshippers?
>>537854257kek
>>537853181> I just don't quite get why we've been so soft militarily on Iran.Thats because you think he have the military ability to roll over Iran, and we do not. They have more missiles than we do, they have been preparing for a defensive war for decades while the US military have over-specialized in punching down at goat herders that can't fight back. We do not have the missile supply to flatten Tehran from a safe distance. Disabuse yourself of that notion entirely. The only way for us to wage a serious war against Iran is to put planes in the air above it that can be shot down, ships close enough to get sunk, or boots on the ground that will be gunned down in droves. Iran has a population of 90 million people. We are not going to go in there an pacify them with a couple thousand guys, that would be like pissing in the ocean. It would take tens of thousands of troops, a vastly expensive war which would bankrupt the USA, get a whole bunch of our own guys killed, and in return we would get... what, exactly?
>>537855196You literally have the grammar and sentence structuring of a brown ape; dismissed.Prove to me that you're White.
>>537855295>Why don't they have nukes if they haven't complied?The world doesn't know, because they've never let your inspectors in to see. Wonderful policy victory for the Orange monkey.
>>537855225>The whole reason that Iran is an issue is that the US has been making deals with it to limit nuclear proliferation for 30 years and it has not once complied.Whole lot of no fucking nukes they have for someone thats been 2 weeks away from being a nuclear power since before I was born.
>>537852908How it started:>Iranian regime must go>Iranian nuclear program must shut down>Iranian long range ballistics program must be shut downHow it ended:US Will release 30 billion in Iranian assetsUS will set up a 300 billion investment fund for IranUS and other countries will pay a fee to Iran for passage through the strait
>>537855560>my translator app demands conformitykys esl mudnigger.
>>537852730On Friday again?
>>537852850>>537852908Jeets
>>537855515>Thats because you think he have the military ability to roll over Iran, and we do notWe absolutely, 100% do. This is the problem with low-resolution pop strategy. If the US decided to queue up a ground invasion of Iran like it did in Iraq, we AB S O L U T E L Y have the ability to pull that off. Iran is a different beast, and the conventional war would possibly be harder, but we have no reason to believe that we would not win. The problem is not that we are militarily incapable but that we are waging a kind of pussyfooting war without ground troops. Airpower alone has never once won a war, and we're trying to be the first to do it. It's not a good idea to start a ground invasion of Iran, for the record. The best idea here is to withdraw. But an even better idea would have been to not have started the fucking thing in the first place because nothing I'm saying would be surprising to anyone who has the slightest fucking clue about how these things work. Trump should have known, too.
>>537852730LFG!!!!!MAGA!
>>537855414Sounds like it hit the Pilothouse?Somebody was there, and Iran wanted them dead?
>537855604And now you lost your (You) privileges, Paco. Tsk tsk..
>>537854340The vast majority are too poor to leave on their own, so the only way that happens is through jewmerican NGOs facilitating it.
Digits and nothing happens
>>537855748>We absolutely, 100% do.Okay, cool. Where should the staging point for the invasion be?
>>537852730Just carpet bomb the shit out of Tehran already!
>>537852874you'd have more luck trying to hold up a ghetto nigger to his end of the bargain >the jew lectures you on justice as he breaks contracts
lmao, they were obviously either jewish drones or nothing haplened at all and he just makes it up. Who's gonna scrutinise his lies, the jewish press?
>>537852908>Closed strait>US Economy at a breaking point with SPR about to empty by September causing an energy crisis and a food crisis caused by lack of fertilizer>Oh did I forget to mention that the AI bubble needs that cheap energy from the Strait?>US/Israel cant penetrate literal mountain fortresses>and they rant out of missiles, thus needing to take missiles intended for China>Yeah we're winning guys
>>537855748It's simple, they thought that if they kill leaders Iran would fold or at least that's what Israel told Trump.
>>537855855Then what?
>>537855968do the drapes too and then get more bombs?
>>537855943Im guessing they have the new leaders being tracked by sattelites 24/7.
>>537852730>clown show continues
>>537852850>West Asia
>>537855748This is my assessment as well. Iran is no more impossible to subdue and occupy than Iraq before it, but it would be even more expensive and pointless. Israel and the Saudis would benefit, among others, but the United States would not
>>537852908Because you lost, israeli
>>537852730The Earthquake Painters did not like the Golden Dome test, Sir. That's why that guy from nato was here
>>537856349Only Israel would benefit, the rest of the world would be thrown into a great depression and chaos.
>only 4 drones targetting a singular ship>not a full on closure, just a token act of aggressionHow sure are we that this isn't some other country known for attacking ships in the middle east to provoke the US to enter conflicts?
>>537856029The idea is that if we expend too many resources wiping that smug look off the faces of these IRGC towelheads, that then leaves us vulnerable to China expanding its influence in the pacific. Or so the news media keeps shrieking. Don't know how true that actually is and how much of it is pundits masturbating to the idea of the US being humbled and beaten
>>537852730>WW3 this, WW3 thatGermany is in shambles and the Anglo won, there wont be a third one for a long time
I guess Bibi whipped him back into submission
>>537852765I literally don't care
>>537854564RIP does he have a triple nipple
>>537855851Uhhhhhhhh... in any of the number of surrounding countries in which we would be allowed to stage troops? Are you trying to ask a different question? Because "staging" has a very specific meaning and you don't seem to know what it is.
>>537855563
>>537856349You would benefit in freeing yourselves from this perennial cycle of fucking with Iran and cucking out every few years, and the destruction of Iran's proxy network would ostensibly eliminate the last real obstacle to a durable peace in the middle east, which would offer a lot of stability for oil prices and shipping.The GWOT was a job half-done and Iran is the other half. It SHOULD be destroyed, which is why watching incompetent American leaders and unscrupulous Jewish warmongers fuck up their big chance is so infuriating.
>>537856766Great, which one?
>>537852730>world war>westoids and persians going tit for tat in a forsaken swamp
>>537853181This but on Washington and TelAviv
>>537856819>eliminate the last real obstacle to a durable peace in the middle east, which would offer a lot of stability for oil prices and shipping.We're not bombing the kikes though. If kikeland didn't exist there'd be minimal conflict over there right now.
Give up iranny or we’ll keep sending white faggot ass incel soldiers to kill you until you die O N E - W A Y
>>537856660>Germany has already lost WW3which should surprise no one at this point. But America is the target. And the civilian deaths haven't happened yet, or at least haven't been recorded. No one is going to tell us we're in WW3, just like no one is going to tell us the clot shots are killing millions. It's fair to say, we're already in the economic part of World War 3, and the hot part of WW3 is spreading. Good times.
>>537853181What if you don’t have the capability - have you thought about that?
>>537852730OH NO! THE EXPENSIVE CARGO!
>>537853280You're not very big on history, huh?
>>537853212>The Israelis are unironically right about this.
>>537853592Midterms. After the midterms the gloves are off.
>>537856853We're talking about how to butcher a cow and you want to talk about the pavement grade on the road to the slaughterhouse.
>>537857085The us killed hundreds of thousands firebombing tokyo, and that got them no closer to forcing a surrender. Which one of us isn’t big on history again?
>>537857276>and that got them no closer to forcing a surrenderThey did surrender, we just needed more bombs
>>537857179You said that the us has 100% the ability to roll over iran, and yet you can’t even describe the first step of that.
>>537857363If you want to make a point, please make it or go away.
>>537856819>You would benefit in freeing yourselves from this perennial cycle of fucking with Iran and cucking out every few yearsAgreed. Which is why the optimal solution is to seek trade deals and military alliance with Iran directly, using our promise to dissolve relations with Israel as leverage to secure a good deal. Israel provides us no benefit in the middle east aside from an ally to oppose Iran, but we only have a strong need to oppose Iran because we are tied to Israel. Its circular. The economic, military, and political advantages to being best friends with Iran are self evident. They are the regional military power, and have the ability to shut off a major source of global trade on their own at basically any time. We want to be on their good side because that benefits us, we WANT them to be friends rather than enemies. Making an alliance with them and then investing in their country economically also gets us on the ground floor of them being able to tap their own internal oil deposits, which rival that of the saudis. The longer you look at this deal, the more benefit there is to Iran as the US regional ally over Israel. We have bad blood between us, but if we can clear that hurdle its green pastures on the other side and we can clear a lot of that bad blood by throwing Israel under the bus and letting them eat the blame.
>>537857462I think his point is that your plan only works as theory and fails the moment you have to discuss implementation. The allies we have in the region that had US military bases have already lost them, the US military has pulled back from all of the forward staging areas that we would have used to launch a ground invasion, leaving us very poorly positioned to consider it a realistic possibility now.
>>537857462Merely describe how the us 100% has the ability to roll over iran.
>>537857276>and that got them no closer to forcing a surrenderYou. You're the one that isn't big on history. >According to American intelligence in early 1945, over 50% of Tokyo's industry was spread out among residential and commercial neighborhoods; the destruction of these neighborhoods in firebombing raids cut the whole city's output in half.[3] Damage was especially severe in the eastern areas of Tokyo. The districts bombed were home to 1.2 million people in total. The Tokyo police force recorded 267,171 buildings destroyed, which left more than one million people homeless.[27]>Emperor Hirohito's tour of the destroyed areas of Tokyo in March 1945 ended his relative lack of involvement in the Japanese wartime decision-making process and contributed to his eventual decision to capitulate to the Allied powers, culminating in Japan's surrender six months later.[28]And before you whine about wikipedia, these claims are well sourced, unlike your masturbatory babble. Like I said, you used one of the worst possible examples you possibly could have. And now you're dying on that hill.
>>537857661And yet, it didn’t force a surrender. >6 months laterI wonder what else happened in the meantime.
>>537857830More bombs. You gonna keep going with this?
>>537855748>If the US decided to queue up a ground invasion of Iran like it did in IraqThe US literally can't draft, muster and deploy the forces necessary. The US would be facing a standing army of around one million combat troops with a reserve of around twelve million willing volunteers. The US simply can't take on Iran in that way with the state the US is in right now.
>>537857872Oh, you mean multiple nukes, with the imminent threat of hundreds more being dropped.So, not merely carpetbombing a city.
>>537852908>iron dome shown to be full of holes>everything more expensive>hardliners back in exclusive control>strait status: closedhow can anything the US did be considered victory?
The DARK & TWISTED Secret ORIGIN of the ADLhttps://youtu.be/f-q-CvSzCOs
>americans kill 6 indians sailors for no reason : nothing>iran drone breaks "expensive" equipement : WWIII
>>537852908Trump started the war with claims of wanting to overthrow the government and demanding unconditional surrender. Neither of these things happened. Iran took heavy losses, but they did not lose.
>>537857593Neither of us have any clue what his point is because he refuses to make one. That's totally valid. Defenses at a number of bases were insufficient, and while we could definitely, you know, beef up air defenses for an invasion force which wouldn't otherwise be present (duh), the nature of the threat environment is such that, yes, even gathering forces in neighboring areas would be vulnerable to attrition. That's war. Either way, you're cottoning on to the real threat, which is asymmetric warfare. Iran has a significant standing military, but their conventional capabilities are such that war against them may be tentatively considered a solved problem. Platoon/company-level organic drones are obviously a new wrinkle in this nascent capacity, and I don't want to take it too lightly. But at the same time, it's wrong to draw overly broad conclusions. A lot of what makes drones impressive is that they bring (diminished) versions of... what the US has. ISR drones substitute for satellite/air recon; munitions drones substitute for, well, pretty much anything which wants to make something explode. It's important to remember that F-35 can carry a 2,000lb JDAM and stick around to run its guns dry if necessary. That's a whole lot more firepower. If we invaded, Americans would die. Probably more than died in the initial phases of Iraq -- maybe significantly more. But what can Iran do? If we wanted to, there's very little it could do but attrit us. This is not nothing (all war is politics) but it's insufficient. I guess I just don't see what Iran's ace in the hole is. I think America's power is such that even the ability to reach out and strike us AT ALL is seen as a fighting chance. Absent further evidence, I don't see why that would be true.
>>537857916Not only is the US in a worse economic situation now than during the War on Terror (meaning that we can't just magic up the money to make it happen), but the narrative is entirely against us. Internationally, the US has given up its position as a global superpower. Our allies followed us into Afghanistan and Iraq, nobody would follow us into Iran. Hell, fucking ISRAEL won't even follow us into Iran, and this is THEIR DAMN WAR.And domestically? Multiple months in, and the american people have still yet to be given a compelling reason for why we had to attack Iran and assassinate their leader. They never laid the groundwork for support for this war, and the country is mostly just confused about what the fuck we are even doing there. The war, even in its currently subdued state, is unpopular. Trying to mobilize for a land invasion would very quickly turn into unrest at home because nobody wants to go and fight this one for such a non-reason. You are not going to get an army lining up to get drone struck to death in another middle eastern country for the grand mission of 'Trump wants to save face'.
>>537852908You lost tranny
>>537858321
>>537852730Launch the nukes or shut the fuck up. Stop making these regular “OMG WW3 IMINENT OH NOOOOES” you vacuous nigger.
>>537852908You signed the MoU in Versailles the same place where Germany surrendered unconditionally after WW1 in 1919.
>>537857982Where you fucked up is the words "no closer to forcing a surrender", as you'd have to be a tremendous fool to conclude that the destruction wrought in the capital didn't factor into the decision making following the nuclear bombing of Hiroshima and Nagisaki. These events aren't happening in a vacuum. The firebombing absolutely made an impact on Japan's ability to wage war and its morale.
>>537852932>iran war championLol
>>537852959Shani louk rest in piece
>>537852951This
>>537852959There’s a separate Wikipedia page for those. The 2026 war page is only for Epic Fury
It's called an Israelian Ceasefire respect their local custom you chud
>>537855748i hate neocon evangelists so much bros
>>537858931Even communists need amies. If you need an army, you need people who care about how armies work.Incidentally, I'm something close to a communist. I just spent enough time fighting neocon wars that I picked up a thing or two about how the whole machine runs.
>>537855748Iran is mountainous country with 90 million people. You'd get slaughtered if you were to put boots on the ground.
>>537852820It's my goal in life to be that unbothered.
>>537859017>im something of a communist myself
>>537852908it just brown people claiming lefty wikipedia coping about the awe power of american and israeli military might and ability to impose their will effectively.
ITS FUCKING OVER OIL IS GOING TO $1000 A BARRELoh wait nothing happened
>>537853181thank you, rabbi mosche, for your input
>>537859278>Its better to be brutalHes thrasymachus
>>537859227Iran is free to sell it's oil to the global market. Tht's why it's normalizing for now.
>>537852730KEK this retarded Iranian Muslim Niggers won't stop until they get leveled with the ground.
>>537852730Oh look it's false flag time again
miggers stay losing
Why doesn't the fat retard put boots on the ground if he really wants to win, yeh it will probably bankrupt America and get tens of thousands of American citizens killed for Israel but that might be the wake up call average migger needs.
>>537852730translation>the jews just sent some rockets and blamed it on Iran and my jew handlers say I have to go with it
>>537852730Ceasefire was broken a week ago when Israel and Hezbollah started fighting. US can't win, even if they went all in with their trillion dollar military. And they can't keep the jews in check, so there is no possibility for diplomacy. It's a frozen conflict and will remain as such.
>>537859494He needs to just stop playing around in the area as if he's some kind of generational geopolitical talent. Literally everyone who isn't a MAGA cultist knows that the only possible way to accomplish what Trump wants is via ground invasion. They also know that he's not gonna do it... and after the recent war powers resolution, he actually fucking CAN'T without congressional approval. What he can do is draw it out and keep troops in the area. He's not doing it because he has a plan, but because he's trying as hard as he possibly can to avoid what's only growing more and more humiliating day by day. >I fucked up, war's over, we're going home. Here are the lessons learned. I throw myself at the mercy of Americans and commit to focusing solely on domestic issues for the rest of my term. That's all it takes. He'd probably actually come out the other end of it more popular than he would in any other probability chain. He's just not gonna do it because he's a total fuckin moron.
>>537859494>will probably bankrupt AmericaThats going to happen anyway
>>537852908
You would need to be a legitimate window licking gigatard to claim America has won this conflict despite them being the ones begging for a ceasefire the whole time (definition of a ceasefire is a halt in a conflict not a definite end) especially since Iran got insane concessions from the united states to the point they have a better deal than they originally had from obama lmao. also while diminishing the worlds respect and co operation with the united states, even the united states ability to project power is suspect seen as goat herders shoot down your warplanes and your carriers have to go home because the toilet exploded or something?This will not be WW3 simply because NATO has decided that this down syndrome military expedition is all on trump and the united states to resolve since they started it. Maybe Israel will help you with boots on the ground but why would they when there are millions of American goyims to sacrifice instead? You know there are tranny's out there less delusional than you guys.
>>537859278I hate Israel as much as I hate Iran but objectively Iran is the one we're currently at 'war' with right now>>537854407Why? because I don't want another forever war? We're not fighting the Taliban here who don't have a central point of operation. Iran is a government with a country. Slaughter the government workers, their families, their friends, they will surrender in time. Again I believe it to be better to attack ferociously and obliterate the enemy in one fell swoop rather than let this age for another 10 years because we're taking half measures.
>>537852765Don’t worry zogbots we’ll keep your whores company while you get culled.
>>537852730So Trump and his homies are shorting the market now? Iran is in on it, btw.
>>537852932Based
>>537852820>>537859144he lived or still lives in germany
>>537859738Thank god
>>537852730>Our enemy will use deception against us during wartime? THIS IS AN OUTRAGE
>>537852932he's not as depicted, he's fat and old and dementia-riddenkeep your AI goyslop propaganda to yourself
>>537853019She looks like she smells like chlorine and sun screen
>>537852908When one side unilaterally surrenders, it means the other side won.
>>537859227Its fiat belief mass media until shortagesFree market price discovery ideologues get margin called regardless this is a centrally planned stock, securities and futures marketI pencil isnt real you can just print and buy wti puts for free
>>537861407>>537852820>>537859144I was wrong, the guy who lived in germany was the guy who filmed.https://youtu.be/uSCJxxI83v4https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Jorgi%C4%87here is a picture of the singerand some more informations: https://www.reddit.com/r/serbia/comments/9ak91p/new_information_about_serbia_strong_remove_kebab/
>>537852730Didn't Israel violate the agreement as soon as it was signed?
>>537854937your leaders are fast tracking merging your army and resources with the IDF, a foreign army, before anyone can stop themthis will create a union that will be almost impossible to extricate from. They are doing this while they have the power to do so as they know a pro-Israel stance is becoming increasingly toxic domestically for their AIPAC funded politicians. AIPAC funds over 500 of the 535 congressional seats.this really should be ringing massive alarm bells for american anons. They are essentially going to fuse you with Israel outside of the political system and there's nothing you can do about it.
>>537859494>Why doesn't the fat retard put boots on the ground iIn Lebanon he did.
>>537854937Orange nigger is a kike slave and blackmailed incestuous pedoHe can just grab Ivanka pussy
>>537862022Israel netenyahu is the realists realist. Zion don and iran can have all the peace they want but bibi is apparently fixated on genocideing lebanon and palestine no matter what
>>537862069me in the middle
>>537852730The reality is that Trump isn't going to do shit because the paper tiger doesn't have any juice left in the tank.If they did there wouldn't be a ceasefire in the first place.Maybe if they weren't relying on a privately owned military industrial complex that's been selling them white elephants for decades which they can no longer produce or afford.
>>537862069
>>537853914The "Defenders" wish to control the Straight. If ship pass through to any extent while ignoring them they are losing. You don't "win" because the strong are gracefully allowing you to live when they could instead just blow you to oblivion if they felt like it.The U.S. is losing the political war but it's purely self-inflicted. Saying Iran has any meaningful merit is cope on their, and their supporters, part.
Would have been nice if USA hadn’t lost the first time.
>>537862433We have thousands of nukes, dumbass.
>>537864139Good luck with controlling the Empire with nukes, retard.
>>537852730i’m a neet
>>537863295Anyone can see that the reason the war ended is because Iran was able to dig in deep enough with a big enough cache of long range precision weapons that they can credibly threaten the world’s most important energy infrastructure.
>>537852874I wonder why Iran doesn't just flatten Jerusalem and Tel Aviv at this point but then I remember Iran is a jewish puppet state that keeps a loose leash on arabs.
>>537864139You have zero cohesion and your economy is Jewish.
>>537852730We'll be back to cease fire by the start of trading Monday morning.
>>537852730>a large and very expensive cargo carrying shipwhat the fuck kind of autistic way is that to just not say "cargo ship?" why can't this fuck just say anything without using as many words as possible?
>>537864139only 1% have been maintained, and only 1% of that 1% might be functional
>>537852730>by IranIsrael has been attacking Lebanon and Palestine pretty much non-stop in violation of the agreement.
>>537853181>needless suffering>a rich guys cargo ship was damaged >100k civilians killedJews are something else i swear
>>537853181>yes. I'd rather we just carpet bomb Tel Aviv into submissionsounds good
>>537852908Your country is going to die.
>>537853181you cant. if you could, you would. when has the US ever held back?
>>537852730>WE'RE GOING BACK TO WAR LIKE IF IT HAS STOPPED FOR A MOMENTC'mon now... >>>/pol/ can't be that low IQ.
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/06/26/us-strikes-iran-strait-of-hormuz-ceasefire.html
>>537852730i hope so, sliming sand niggers is our birthright
>>537852850Happy Ramadan brother
>>537854257Looks hot to me faggit
>>537852908Iran won bro. No discussion.
>>537852730why were retards saying Iran won the war when they're still getting bombed and slaughtered and there's no peace deal?
>>537870306If we've won, why are we still there? If the goal was to kill all those people with big, red Xs on their faces, why are we literally at this moment still trading missiles with Iran? You can't have it both ways, anon.
>>537870482technically we're not really there anymore. they totally significantly damaged all and even destroyed some of our bases. all we have left are standoff munitions that are running out
It's over
>>537861953>died in prisonGood. Fucking retard helped break up Yugoslavia and got a lot of innocent people killed for no fucking reason other than to suck a manlet dictator's cock.>t "serb" former British soldier
but trump the lying kike said the pool was open and he made a historic peace deal
the only way the madness ends is physically getting the nigger pitbull israel back on its leash and muzzled
>>537852730Dude just larps like /pol/ and no action
Fuck niggers
>>537855873its amazing how casually dishonest they are.
>>537856819The issue is that Trump is specifically an egoist. He's already pissed off he doesn't have a Nobel Peace Prize, he's pissed off that people aren't talking about the ballroom positively and instead bringing up cost of living all the time, and he's pissed off that he's still stuck in this quagmire in Iran that's directly tanking the Republican party to a notable degree because of him. He's even trying to pass the blame off to Vance with his comments about the ceasefire for example.A man like him is not going to start a land war even though it's 100% the smartest idea of the options he has currently to actually do something effective because it's going to be unpopular at home. He's already seen for over a month that just lobbing shit and saying strong words isn't threatening them, and now he's gone and made the completely stupid decision to outright say we're four weeks away from running out of the reserves we have in the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. So Iran knows if they hold out another handful of weeks they get even more concessions because Trump is not going to commit to a land war. Not after all the bitching he did about Iraq for over a decade. Not with the context of how egotistical he is and how poorly it will reflect on him.If he actually does any sort of land incursions I will be beyond surprised because that basically kills the Republican party for the next election as the midterms are already not looking great for them.
>>537852730no one cares what this jew cum sock says
>>537852730NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN
>>537852730*yawn* this guy's a joke
>>537852850I disagree whether it's an Iranian victory, but the fact that these wikitrannies wrote that to piss off MIGA is so fucking funny.
>>537852908>killed their ayatollah >killed their ayatollah's replacement >killed their ayatollah's replacement replacement>destroyed their entire navy>DURRR IRAN WONLiberals are not known for being very smart.
>>537852730Translation, the sneaky evil Zionist Jewish scum are telling their obedient Zionist cuckold ship captains to not follow any instructions from the IRGC, thus violating the terms of the ceasefire.
>>537853181>I'd rather we just carpet bomb Tehran into submissionyou cant, air superiority ended with the downing of multiple stealth jets. Iran got radar from temu
>>537852730War doesn’t exist anymore dumbass. How many people have died in this war? Five? Wake the fuck up. States just performatively bomb each other while giving warning to everyone to leave before the bombing and telling their enemy they’re going to bomb it. This is just a show for the plebes.
>>537852874
Wow so this is what we get for lifting all sanctions from iran to lower gas prices
Rude.
>>537876897>Wow so this is what we get for lifting all sanctions from Iran to lower gas prices^LMAOOOOOOOO seething jew going red in the face about to start calling everyone an (((isolationist))) like its some kind of damning slur that you dont want to go to war on behalf of literal jewsthis is what "we" get for allowing israel to flaunt every rule and agreement every written.this whole war proves almost absolutely, that every conflict begins and ends with israeli behavior
>>537852730You lot and Iran can sort that shit out between yourselves.
>>537876521lmao, >"Lebanon makes greater israel official"what the absolute nigger fuck were they thinking?I cant wait to see how Iran responds to that batshit insanity
>>537852730The US is in full control (can't stop drones)Trump has negotiated a deal (the deal's off)The strait is open! (ships bombed)Israel will do what the US says (they're not stopping their war)What lies will miggers be forced to swallow tomorrow? >>537876457> War doesn’t exist anymoreYes, it might be this dumb. >>537875285>start a land war even though it's 100% the smartest idea of the options he has currentlyNo wait this is even better. Please do it migger, get Zion Don to commit to sending the troops.
https://www.slideshare.net/slideshow/1-enoch-from-the-complete-54-book-apocrypha-2022-edition-lsv-by-covenant-press-copyrighted-non-commercial-fair-use-permissable/287795565
>uh yeah guys Trump is totally turning on Bibi for real this timeFELL. FOR. IT. AGAIN.Told you it was all fake and gay theater. Again.
