Whats this guy’s problem? Does he not understand basic economics?
Landlords produce nothing and get rewarded for it. How is that fair?
>>537866899If he embraces YIMBYism and builds more housing it'll offset any of the negative effects rent freezes sometimes haveAnd I do suppose fulfilling promises is a foreign and "cringe" concept to miggers
>>537866899spanish is such a thirdie looking language. look at those fucking jungle words.
>>537866899think of all the jewish landlords whose line won't go up
>>537866899What is your problem? I know the line going up means the dick up your ass gets longer but just relax people need a break from getting fucked
>>537866899SOCIALISM IS GREAT UNTIL IT RUNS OUT OF OTHER PEOPLES $$$
>>537867120Spanish is from Spain.... y'know Europe... in which there are no jungles.
>>537867043>pays thousands to replace your sewer lines every time your trans gf clogs the toilet with xis tamponsi'd rather be perceived by nonces as "producing nothing" than being a net negative on society
>>537866899Now if he really wants to fix the problem, introduce a (high) vacant house taxThe market will be squished like no tomorrow
>>537867043>>537867109>>537867165>>537867247It is simply bad economics. It will disincentivize new construction, encourage landlords to neglect maintenance, and reduce the overall housing stock over time.
>>537867043What even is risk, my nigga? After definition, is risk valuable enough to be compensated for? N shiet?
>>537866899What's the matter? Do you own properties or something? Made you can't keep raising rent?
>>537867043>Landlords produce nothing and get rewarded for it.so does the government. Also inflation is high and energy costs are rising and landlords cant raise the rent. Then when the buildings don't have heat mamdani and the communists will blame the landlords. How about we freeze tax increases comrade ?
>>537867120Its mother tongue is Latin you cretin
>>537866899TLDFUCK ALL LANDLORDSRAM LANDLORDS INTO WALLSBURN LANDLORDS AT THE STAKERIP OFF ALL LANDLORDS HEADS
>>537867370and look at how disgustingly they fucked it up.
>>537866899RENT FREEZES ARE ANTISEMITICTHIS IS ANOTHER OCTOBER 7 THINK OF THE BASIC ECONOMICS
>>537866899SOMEONE STOP THIS NAZI
>>537867484kek i love this nigga
>landlords are...le bad. Dey be chargin rent n stuffmamdani makes me want to run for office. This shit is fucking easy.
>>537866899based
>>537867412French, Italian, and Romanian languages would like a word with you
>>537866899Jesus you are in worst shit than us
>>537867305>>537867370but why do you fags even tolerate Spanish subs on official government announcements
>>537866899He didn't freeze rent the landlords themselves did it. They agreed voluntarily to it, nothing about this says bad economics
>>537867613all look and sound fine, it's spanish that looks and sounds like it was engineered for low IQ thirdies.
>>537866899Good
>>537867293>other people's moneyexcept it's not, it's YOUR money, you've just been brainwashed to think it belongs to shareholders and overpaid C suite execs.
>>537867346Your id is the same color of your skin.
>>537867935White people are the landlords, shitskins are the rentoids
>>537867346>It will disincentivize new constructionAmerica doesn't need new housing construction>encourage landlords to neglect maintenanceLegally require them to do it>reduce the overall housing stock over timePopulation is shrinking. Rapidly if we send 55 million visa jeets home. Or 15 million illegals
>>537867043Landlords for actual buildings do produce something. Landlords who own actual land and then charge people to “use” it produce nothing. It very much is the same as Adam Smith’s given example for rent-seeking of a medieval lord extending an impassable chain across a river and charging people to lift the chain because it’s “his” river. It’s creating an artificial solution to an artificial problem that in the end produce nothing at all.You could argue that the government is the biggest land owning parasite of them all since it charges property tax in perpetuity on its owners, but government actually does give tangible services in return. It provides irrigation if needed, security from criminal trespass, and a 24/7 fire brigade. John Landownerberg III does none of this for the people that he charges to build on or occupy “his” land.
>>537867043they produce housing which you have to pay for same as your loan for liberal arts bullshit diploma, but here you have viable upside which is not being on the street
>>537868100Okay? As long as you don't view jewish as white than we are in agreement.
>>537866899More affordable rent? Oh the humanity! Think of those poor helpless jewish landlords!
>>537866899>the left can't m-uh oh
>>537866899>Mandani just froze the rentCongratulations! How much are you paying for rent now?>>537867043>Landlords produce nothingWhat exactly do you produce?>>537867109>builds more housingYeah, nothing creates a boom in investment like removing all profit incentive for potential investors. People should be lining up to build new nigger-nests that they'll never be allowed to recoup the cost of!
>>537866899he's obviously a plant to tank the real estate market so somebody can come in and buy it up
>>537867346What incentivises landlords to look after their properties is intense market competition or government legally requiring it.
>>537867662NYC is a multicultural city which a sizeable Latino working class and it is a sign of respect towards them. Deserved, as they bring lots of good to the city and contribute to its status. Europoors won't understand this because you're sad and hateful.
>>537868503Who? The rich elite already own the housing in NYC
>>537867043Please watch a documentary on the major public housing projects build nationwide starting in 1965 to their collapse in the 1980's.
>>537866899>the jew cries in painStop making me consider socialism, and call your sister to come get rid of this erection.
He's freezing the rent so he can keep the brown people supporting him from getting kicked out of their aparrtments.He supports "child welfare" and "childcare" so his brown hordes can breed and be cared for on your dime.You're a fool if you think he's doing this to be benevolent or help Americans/Whites. He's doing this explicitly to help his foreign supporters to replace Americans with nonwhites foreigners. Even if you're a black American, he wants you exterminated, because you're a bourgeoisie kuffar.
>>537868121Profoundly unintelligent post.
NOOOO WE ON /POL/.isreal FUCKING LOVE LANDLORDSWON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE KIKES
>>537868679How so bitch tit's?
>>537867043This plus most of them are Jewish in USA.
>>537867043Quit being antisemetic
>>537868717The guys on the left in the oil rig make 100k a year or more. They're not really working class.
>>537868657>STOP SPENDING GOVERNMENT MONEY TO SUPPORT THE CITIZENRY IT MIGHT HELP A BROWN PERSON>why yes I'm fine with my tax dollars paying for Israeli healthcare and college, why do you ask
Generally these things don’t require deep thought. You can engage in deep thought about these topics, but the end result is the same: if Jews are in on it, it’s immoral, damaging to society as whole, and full of fraud.
>>537868742All three of his statements are wrong, dogfucker.
>>537866899>freeze rentsLook forward to reduced rental apartment availability. I know what I am talking about. Our rental "market" is literally communist. We have to stand in line like cucks.
>>537868784if you work for a wage you're a worker, some workers are rewarded more than others and can therefore perceive their interests as different from other workers but this is only true as long as the owners/capitalists want it that way
>>537868892Two of them are. One of them is not
>>537867346>It will disincentivize new construction,No it won't. Jews are happy to build section 8 filing cabinets and collect a huge monthly check from the government.>encourage landlords to neglect maintenance,lol. Is there even a word for "maintenance" in hebrew?>and reduce the overall housing stock over time.So jews are going to stop building jeet and nigger pens because they hate money. ok
>>537868914Good. The main objective of a govt should be to house people in permanent family housing. That is the dream of any sane human. If you need a rental that is an exception that you need to go through a process for. Landlords are a tolerated parasite that exist for certain usecases
>>537867109>If he embraces YIMBYism and builds more housing it'll offset any of the negative effects rent freezes sometimes have"If I get a 300% raise at my job and stop excess spending til the end of the year I can afford the new car I just bought"
>>537868792it’s not that anon, fuck off. It’s that you leftist globohomos always go after ethnic European peoples and men. If you weren’t punishing us eternally and actually doing anything different in terms of supporting israel, people might vote for youBut all you stand for is status quo + extreme anti-White, anti-male shit with weird fag and tranny worship sprinkled in
>>537866899Not related to him, but someone has to do SOMETHING about rent prices at some point in time. Rent keeps going on and less people are able to afford it, and if they can it's shitboxes. If allowed to, rent will only continue to go up and up and no one will be able to afford a house or to pay rent anymore. Running away to cheaper states or areas won't help because more people will flood into those places and prices will go up, the problem isn't gonna go away or stay contained in big cities only.
>>537868792They aren't helping the citizenry. That's the lie they tell you while outnumbering and outbreeding you. They know what they are doing. They are taking advantage of Americans naivete and sense of empathy to build an army of conquerors inside of the US. You can't invade the US with a military, but you can flood the country and craft fighters exploiting government gibs and laws. They're going to kill you. They hate you and want you dead, your children raped, and they think it's funny. Honestly, it is kinda funny how retarded you fucking dumbasses are in falling for the shitskin lies.
>>537867397Cry moar timmyI raised rent because insurance went up. You don't need to worry about my renegotiating those insurance rates afterward.
>>537868541*Latinx
>>537868914If landlords can't make a profit without making things horrible and if the "market" can't function with a rent freeze that is necessary to control the damage on society caused by landlords then that is an argument against landlords and the market.
>>537866899*Freeze frame*You might be wondering why im homeless right now. We you see, no one is moving because they like thier prices, so rentals that DO come on the market are hella expensive. Why? Cause there less to be had. I know right. Someone kill rich landlords or something. Its totally not government meddling thats causing it.
>>537868977That's not true. It's entirely possible for you to work for a wage and not be working class. Communism defines the bourgeoisie as the middle class.
>>537868121>Force landlords to maintain property by lawWhat if they cant afford the upkeep on the building because the rents are frozen? The property would be seized by the government/banks. Since the government cant even fill in potholes in a timely and efficient manner, what are the odds they'll be able to properly maintain an apartment, or 10, or 100, or 1000?
>>537869151Nigger. Thanks anon, I haven't had a chance to say it yet today.
>>537869128Sure it will, people are getting out of this anti-White, anti-male weird globohomo jew shithole
>>537868541>they bring lots of good to the citylike what?
>>537868717>working class>landlordsIs being mocked some sort of Jewish, humiliation fetish?
>>537869193>if the "market" can't function with a massive government invasion on the free market [con't drivel]ftfy retard
>>537867412genital mutilation makes you clowns say the stupidest things. Go worship jewish foreskins, goylem
>>537869234Np yt, just make sure you pay on the 1st
>>537869134>shitskin liesAnon there are plenty of useful retard shitskins who readily go along with that evil, but cut the shit. It’s globohomo jews who have done all of that you fucking retard You think a >~90% ethnic European countryVoted for this shit in the 70’s and 80’s willingly? It was forced onto us by the very systems which are supposed to serve us.
>>537869351spics are the biggest problem with American society but you can't talk about it on a so-called racist white supremacist board, huh.
>>537869262Americans barely even go to NYC at all anymore, because it’s filled with people who aren’t Americans usually, and they hate those of us who are. It’s really strange what the globohomo jews did to that place, hell this entire place.
>>537867120it's embarrassing an embarrassing language. i always hear la cucaracha playing in my head whenever i read or hear it spoken
>>537867043Well they got in early on the ponzi scheme so they got to work for $1.25 an hour ($150/hour in todays money) so they could buy houses for cheap and everything they did was profitable and since they want to live off the backs of the robbed generations that came after they can just rent their cucksheds to the young or the slave labor they wanted
>>537867362>so does the governmentBecause you keep voting for conservatives retard
>>537869404>spics are the biggest problem with American society>t. Deflecting anti-White globohomo jew
>>537867043>gibs me dat
>>537869378It doesn't matter who caused it, it's done. Supporting Mamdani is not going to end the problem, it IS the problem. He's here to kill you. Just because he pretends to hate Israel and jews doesn't mean he's your ally. He's a used car salesman jeet in nature.
>>537867043What do you produce?
>>537869652wishful thinking from a defeated wretch
Israel gonna take that guy out
>>537869528What is better about blue zionism from the liberals? You already showed, in one post, why you should shut your mouth on politics for at least 2 moar years
>>537868977So I guess CEOs are workers
>>537869652Then what do you offer moshe? More immigrants ain't going to help. Lesser evil if you will.
Doesn’t exist socialism in USA.And socialism and even communism is good, capitalism is bad, you are brainwashed to be against good things for your own interests to benefit billionaires and trillionaires who care more about their own profit and the profit of their nepobabies.Capitalism is bad and USA have millions of homeless people and people without healthcare, USA economy depends of tariff other countries, bomb other countries, steal other countries, other countries of the world having fear of USA, accepting USA propaganda for the empire and genocidal colonialist state of Israel invented in 1948 when some years before colonialists were already working on have some colonial territory here because they discovered that Middle East would be rich and full of oil and resources in the future and this is why Israel for decades is expanding, killing people and children without any movie of USA against Israel and no reparations for the countries destroyed for the interests of Israel. 90% of Democrats support by omission and 90% of the Republicans support actively.Only on China have socialism, a developing country who grows every year and its rare to have homeless people and people without health care even having a bigger population than USA.
>>537869538you're not white, pablo.
>>537869742Yes. Why is that a gotcha to you? They serve at the behest of the board, and are compensated for their work.
>>537866899>rent capWho cares? Rent is already too high. It's only for 1-2 year leases on select apartments too.
>>537869701soundcloud rap
If USA were socialist wouldn’t not have millions of homeless people and people without healthcare.This guy maybe for the garbage standards of USA as right wing country with right wing democrats since race baiting to remove attention of the crimes of Israel and pretend that USA is good people when their economy depends of keep other countries poorer, tariffed, economically destroyed, invade them, steal them and these things, democrats are right wing and republicans are far right. They are all capitalists and if wasn’t socialism all the workers would still be slaves with the minimum only to eat and live, would be much worse than the capitalism of today world.I think this guy was invented because many people was hating the genocidal state of Israel so USA needed a guy to pretend that Democrats are Israel too like Reepiblicans, so they invented this guy who never will public say that Israel is a genocidal state and that USA if were the good guys and cops of the world would need to demand Israel to pay reparations for Palestine, Lebanon and Israel and USA should divide reparations for Iran, the Democrats who pretend to be good people will never try to defend the people and kids who Israel killed, never will demand reparations of Israel for these countries, will not give all the oil and money who USA take from Venezuela by stealing their oil and dominating their country for USA interest, and will always say for countries don’t negotiate with China or Russia as strategy of American empire and will support the colonialist expansionist state of Israel.
>>537869742it depends, some are people who could exist on passive income if they wanted. To put it one way, if things were automated enough where it was just owners purchasing from each other with no workers, then CEO wouldn't be a job. So they are the least precarious form of worker, the last ones to go if they could be gotten rid of.
>>537869528>muh conservative >muh liberal We have a globohomo jew uniparty here, what the fuck are you talking about shill?
>>537867109>>537869351>>537869830>ITT: Ancaps slob the knob of daddy government Now that's fuckin' /news/!
>>537869951Mah nigga bux nood in dis muthafugga
>>537869705>>537869755I don't have a solution. I just know Mamdani is NOT a solution. The only solution I have is impossible to implement. Full round-up and extermination of anyone whose family weren't citizens before WW2, except European White immigrants.
>>537869652>no it never happened and it’s all water under the bridge goy The goyim know moishe
>>537870012>t. Globohomo jew with a purposely extremist viewpoint Shalom! Some things never change
>>537866899This is literally worse than the Holocaust...OMG, how will Jews profit from immigration if they don't raise rent?
>>537869770You're insanely brainwashed.> USA have millions of homeless people and people without healthcare,Thank socialists for that.>
>>537869957? uhh... he IS the government
>>537869820Because no marxist would admit that because they demonize CEOs>>537869942Then I guess oil "workers" aren't workers either.I met some of these people, they earn $120k a year and invest in bank stocks, they invest in Bell.Inc, they invest in Microsoft, they live off profits too.
>>537870146What kind of place is your head to think>Ya know, 12 years ago, this guy mentioned my favorite niggerballer>Ronnie up, Charles down c. 2026
>>537870046It is already water under the bridge. It happened. Mamdani runs NYC. What is your solution?>>537870098Also, what is your solution? Do you have any idea about how to solve this?
>>537867043Communists should be killed.
>>537867043right, buildings just magically upkeep themselves.fridge dies? better pay out of pocket instead of contacting the owner, who more than likely has local vendor deals and or warehouse stock and can replace it for far less than you can
>>537870216Uhh yeah and ancap used to be at least slightly against glazing the government intervening in the market. Instead of typing like a fag, what are you actually saying?
>>537870012My uncle fought in ww2 was a brent gunner. Was injured and got to come home. He is one of the reasons I fight so hard against this shit. You literally were told to abuse, steal and rape the people who saved you from your greatest enemy. Do not be surprised that the remnants of the "greatest generation" do not want hear what you have to say.
>>537866899I asked in the previous Mamdani kvetch thread, but got no answer. I'll try again.What's the scope of a mayors authority? Seems like he's the president of a microstate (NYC).
>>537870358If we had an actual free market, housing developers would be able to build more homes, and sell at a lower prices so it would be easy to buy a home.Getting the state to block housing development isn't free market.
>>537866899>does he not understand basic economics?>places huge blanket tariffs on every country at once
He's either muzzie or jew, and either way, he's enemy of the US. His body guard were on camera speaking in jihadist principles.
>>537870230I see. >>537869942Can you tell the class what a CEO does and why a firm would have one, without looking it up?
>>537869957>>537870216>>537870380He's right that although Mamdani has a lot of shitty left wing ideas...his plan to deregulate housing and increase supply is akin to the solution proposed by people on the economic right. Mamdani embraces abundance Liberalism, which draws upon Supply Side Economic thinking, even if done through State auspices
>>537870399I'm not jewish. Just because I hate Mamdani doesn't make me jewish. Jews are hornets, Mamdani is a yellow jacket. One of many millions.You won't solve the jew problem, by siding with races of people that want to exterminate you, anymore than siding with jews will help you get rid of the people that want to exterminate you.
>>537866899He's going after all the shitty landlords. What part of that do you not understand? Or are you pro people renting out properties to large groups of people where they do not upkeep the property like they're supposed to. They do not respond to their tenants request and they just keep raising the rent. Its him doing a good thing.Only Jews and shitty landlords would be upset about this and Republicans because anything that a Democrat does they can't stand especially if it makes them look bad. Which all this is going to make everyone look bad with the exception of mamdani and New York.Get ready. Rest of the country. Y'all suck. You weren't used to everything being expensive. We have been your governments have failed you over the past handful of decades, more specifically the past decade, whereas New York's been pretty decent. It's had its problems that's for sure, but I'm confident moving forward. It's been a good year. It's only going to get better. You will all falter and NY will prosper as we always have.
>>537870594@grok translate this niggerbabble to English, please
>>537870594He's going to freeze out the landlords who aren't part of his clique, and gift the buildings cheap to his donors. Like what happens every time this policy is implemented.
>>537868267This is a good post. If landlords were like super responsive to problems, spent money on good utilities like washers and dryers, and it was competitive theyd provide a real service. But most landlords put in absolute bare minimum in maintenance and dont live in the building or communicate with the tenants at all. Just like with healthcare, free market economic principles cant apply when there is distorted / unlimited demand
Mamdani wouldn't be a celebrity if MAGA boomercons didn't turn him into. You're all impressively retarded. It's like you dumb niggers are desperate to make "commie" celebs you can fight.
>>537870591I don't have a dog in this fight, it just blows my mind how people can hate someone who is making people's lives better. The landlords will be fine through this price freeze, unless they over spend. In which case they would deserve it the same way a homeless person spends all of his money and waits for paycheck.
>>537866899COOL IT DOWN WITH ANTISEMITISM!
>>537870721Let him wait and see. Only 20% of NYC is White. That 20% has to go. NYC is going to be a major hub and center of power, a fortress, for foreigners. That's the goal. Mamdani needs more barracks. So he's taking property. He'll remove the Italians from SI soon.>>537871036>it just blows my mind how people can hate someone who is making people's lives betterHe's not doing this. LOOK AT THE MOTHERFUCKER. Can you read physiognomy and see he's a predator? That guy is on a warpath he learned in Africa. Jesus H Christ almighty. You see what they're doing to Europe, what do you think that want here? Eventually that wanna control all US military and police and courts. Guess what happens then.
>>537867316You and landlords are literal parasites
>>537867043Socialism is evil because it screws the future for the sake of the lazy present. Freezing the rent doesn't help anyone, in fact, the future generations of NYC will have to pay even more rent once Mamdani's social experiment fails. Rent should naturally go up with inflation and only going down as less demand (cities like NYC always have demand). If you're too stupid to pay rent in a city, you should move to a chepaer city. You won't because you lack skills, you're useless trash. Lefitsts need to be expelled from the West.
>>537867043you peoiple are fuckign retards.you claim the soviet union "wasn't real communism" but you do literally the same shit and expect different results.you are a menace
>>537871036>it just blows my mind how people can hate someone who is making people's lives better.He's making the lives of people who are already living in heavily discounted apartments marginally better for 2 years at the expense of everyone else. No wonder Canada is barely even a country at this point.
>>537866899So far Mamdani has enabled his admin to seize buildings in states of disrepair. He has now enacted a rent freeze. Anyone see where this is going? I will tell you. Landlords will have to deal with rising costs and must seek an avenue to save money. Maintenance being the first one to go. Their buildings will fall into disrepair and Mamdani will seize it for himself, I mean the people. The maintenance issues won't be solved and the landlord will have lost his property. This is actually a direct case of cause and effect. If I was a landlord, I would sell immediately and get the fuck out of NYC.
>>537870998Mamdani is more MAGA than you retard.
>>537867120Comes directly from Latin, so does ~40% of English. You're an uncultured retard. It's literally a language of 'The West'.
>>537867043This is in part true. Even the father of capitalism Adam Smith thought as much.>"Rent, considered as the price paid for the use of land, is naturally the highest which the tenant can afford to pay in the actual circumstances of the land. In adjusting the terms of the lease, the landlord endeavours to leave him no greater share of the produce than what is sufficient to keep up the stock from which he furnishes the seed, pays the labour, and purchases and maintains the cattle and other instruments of husbandry, together with the ordinary profits of farming stock in the neighbourhood. This is evidently the smallest share with which the tenant can content himself without being a loser, and the landlord seldom means to leave him any more. " - Wealth of Nations Chapter XI.
>>537867346If more people were capable of owning their own property we'd have better upkept housing as it is.
>>537870806Not enuff ytIt's arguing the same way people argue about borders being arbitrary by merit of being human created. It's may be artificial to assert that this acre is "my" land, but it's tangibly valuable in what it can produce, if utilized. The post is avoiding the value of certainty afforded by property rights, while name dropping Adam Smith. What a buncha psueds! Neither of you've even heard of the island pig people, and that's macro 101.
>>537867316oy vey! if i am forced to pay for maintenance of the building i bought how will i expand my portfolio and continue buying up every building in the neighborhood and raising the rent as much as i want?!
>>537867109ive been thinking you know what New york city really needs?much more dense housing!
>>537867346>oy vey there is still 30 square feet of open space! >quick somebody build some housing pods so i can later buy it on mortgage!
>>537867043what the fuck do you produce?
>>537868477>Housing>Profit incentive Show nose
>>537874312>Yes, lets just allow subhuman pedophile freaks to live in apartments over 500sq because their dads got them jobs in goldman sachs.We all must suffer for rich pedo freaks.
>>537867120I agree they speak so fast and it's such a annoying shitskin language.
>>537874518A fat dick for your mom bitch.
>>537867043They trade land for money.
mamdani just froze my rent. ama
>>537866899Rent controlled apartments have been a thing in New York since the 1940s. He didn't do anything but more of the same thing that they've been doing for nearly 100 years.
>>537874848Who'd ya steal it from, beaner?
>>537870806>This is a good post. If landlords were like super responsive to problems, spent money on good utilities like washers and dryers, and it was competitive theyd provide a real service. But most landlords put in absolute bare minimum in maintenance and dont live in the building or communicate with the tenants at all.My landlord is pretty good and up to date with everything. my landlady when i was growing up was an old lady and made a platter of italian desserts for each apartment during the holidays
>>537871514I'm an Albertan separatist so couldn't care less about canada.
>>537875009From your brother Om'Bongo
>>537866899Why do you think Jews voted for him?Rent freeze lower property prices. Knowing when that turns on and off is very profitable.
rent freeze just means market apartments will get even more expensive since even less people will be willing to leave their rent controlled. also landlords with both rent controlled and market units will have to make up their losses by raising prices for market rate apartments.
>>537867043>landlordI mean let’s be real here, they put a roof over your head. Shelter is a basic human need.
>>537875237Once again, an American cannot post more than twice without mentioning black penis. Bizarre, and a bit uncouth.
>>537874706>over 500sqlol what kind of poor fag are you?
>>537866899What’s crazy is that they have the perfect example of how to deal with muh rent across the river.Rent in Jersey city and Hoboken has been flat or declining, because the city went out of its way to tone down its bureaucratic requirements for building projects and super actively pursued and encouraged the building of massive residential skyscrapers. Thousands and thousands of new units every year in the past decade, to the point that it’s pissing off condo owners because their places missed out on the COVID price surges.Literally THE ONLY THING THEY HAVE TO DO is stop strangling and being hostile to new construction. That’s ALL they have to do. And they won’t.
>>537867346Which is what has happened in every commie country that does it. Brownoids are just retarded.
>>537867043It's especially unfair when you realize we are all collectively paying for the landlords' apartment complexes through inflation because they finance their construction through fractional reserve banking which is functionally identical to counterfeiting.Literally 100% of what a landlord owns, we all paid for, but it's only the landlord who collects rent. And he collects rent from tenants who helped fund his building against their will.If I'm going to be forced to see the price of everything go up because of landlords, then I'd rather the renters just have free fucking housing and have the landlords receive nothing just as we the sufferers of their inflation have received nothing.
>>537875552They don't though. They buy up the shelter and force you to pay not for it's value, but for what they can sqeeze out of you to have said human need.It's like if a company started buying up all the waterways and aquifers of the nation and made water cost 10 bucks a gallon.
>>537876475You can pay me, or buy your own. It's that cuck mentality that's actually holding you back.
>>537876183Yep. Jersey City and Hoboken are booming places now. New Jersey could really make some good plays here. Last mayor of Jersey City was pretty good and rational.
>>537867043>all these posts claiming landlords produce housing- They purchase housing to rent out.- They then collect money from people who eventually would purchase homes.- They use this to purchase homes, often competing with other landlords who also have a lot more money than they should.- The demand for house ownership has stayed exactly the same, but the cost of purchasing a home and the cost of renting, both shoot up, because housing has become a speculative commodity for landlords to play with. Money is being used to extort money.The funniest part is, for pol, when I say landlords, it's not actually natives. Because even "native landlords" are (because this is a commodity) susceptible to international investment. If a house is in their purchasing power, it's getting bought, whether they live in France, Spain or Germany. The biggest investor wins.And this is before we even take into account property management firms and international companies that have been replacing them for the past two decades.These houses are supposed to be either the state's property to rent to citizens at a reasonable value until they can afford a home, or sold as people's first homes. Not this insane situation where it's an extremely safe alternative to the stock market, if you've got the capital for it.>>537867293and then there's these kinds of niggers, groomed to think any kind of law preventing financial exploitation by neoliberals and Jews is le communism.
>>537867109NYC in general is the most hostile place to build housing period. They aren’t going to build more housing, there’s plenty of vacant units anyways. The problem is the city gets so in your ass that it’s better for these owners to keep them unoccupied and write the losses off on taxes compared to getting a family of 4 niggers in there who will stop paying rent, destroy your property, and be allowed to stay for 2.5 years after they stop paying. I lived in Brooklyn many years ago, and they were going to build a new building in the neighborhood I was in. It would have added an additional 80 units (a good amount for this small section) but everyone got in a fucking uproar because “the building was too high”, it was like 8 stories. They cry about more housing then piss and moan when people try to build it lmao. Also walk around and look at these townhomes people want to renovate (not even new building), there’s like 40 fucking permits stapled to the front of the home before they can even lift a hammer.
I wish mudami was MY uncle
>>537867346Anything rent controlled already has insanely neglected maintenance and is a shithole compared to regular market units. Why would they maintain or upgrade it if they can’t get any of the cost back lmao.
>>537876475>thinkNigger it would be awful cold outside in a blizzard without shelter you mouth breather
>B-but that won't be profitable!Exactly. We need non-profit housing. You pay your portion of the maintenance in a building. There is no vig that increases year after year. Only what is needed to maintain.
>>537867043Its a service, by this logic why do we pay a waitress.
>>537869128Yes they will. People will be cohabitating by necessity. They already do it in Boston, NYC, etc.
>>537878617>it's a serviceShut the fuck up you retard
>>537867346Good thing the free market encourages competition to enforce those things organically. If you throw your hands and give up, someone more ambitious will supersede you.That's capitalism, baby.
>>537878321Just wait, He'll force them to maintain their properties or risk losing them to the state, no refunds.
>>537878859We are a bit away from a mayor having the authority to take homes from people lmao.
>>537866899he's a socialist dictator, what were you expecting
>>537866899This will accelerate the collapse of the economy
The one market that's literally controlled by Hasidic slumlords and /pol/ won't shut up about "muh free market." Mossad bots.
>>537867346Shalom
>>537866899>jew landlords mad most based thing he's done >>537877819>>537874932>>537871372>>537868298>t. parasite defense force These are the goodest of goys
>>537878774Study by Stanford University found that rent controlling units in SF actually increased all rental prices by 5%. https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/faculty-research/publications/effects-rent-control-expansion-tenants-landlords-inequality-evidencePlease do some basic research on economics. Rent control doesn't work, and it hurts all parties involved.
>>537879046Retard.
>>537878960this is literally why its a (((problem))) and why op is jewish
>>537879377The problem is brown people with sub room temp IQ.
The real story is that he is not actually anti-zionist. He is a liberal zionists that dog whistles for votes. He retained turbo-zionist and Trump family friend Jessica Tisch as police commisioner. One of the three candidates Mamdani recently endorsed in the New York primaries Brad Lander is another giga zionist.
NYC metro area would be such an amazing place if it was still for the working class white family
>>537867346>It is simply bad economics. It will disincentivize new construction, encourage landlords to neglect maintenance, and reduce the overall housing stock over time.Austin wanted to heavily regulate housing. Texas wouldn't let them. Austin rent then proceeded to be affordable relative to any other major city. Texas should have let those Austin retards be retards and have expensive housing
>>537868121>>encourage landlords to neglect maintenance>Legally require them to do itI suppose you know the man with a 300IQ that will know how to word these laws so they actually work. And I suppose you know the honest angels to hire for the enforcement agency that will never ever be corrupted
>>537879884>>537879960Balkanization is wishful thinking for pseudo anarchists.
>>537869232>What if they cant afford the upkeep on the building because the rents are frozen? The property would be seized by the government/banks. Since the government cant even fill in potholes in a timely and efficient manner, what are the odds they'll be able to properly maintain an apartment, or 10, or 100, or 1000?This anon gets itIt is retarded liberal logic to say "well we just need to pass a law stating that things must be good"WHY HASN'T ANYONE EVER THOUGHT OF THAT IN ALL OF HUMAN HISTORYJust pass the a that says things must be goodLEGALLY REQUIRED BY LAW TO BE GOODOf course!!!EVERYTHING IS NOW SOLVED FOREVER NOWLiberalism is an actual mental fucking disorder
Quite frankly, property is not a good to be traded and profited from. It should be illegal to own more than 1 home when common people cannot even own 1.
>>537867120Spanish is fine it's just mexicans and other beanoids make it sound trashy and disgusting
>>537880088I will issue all citizens 1 blockchain ledgered token that legally constitutes ownership of some land, somewhere. It should now be legal to own more than 1 home.
>>537867043>they produc—are you a commie? why the fuck are you talking about production?oh who am I kidding, 1pbtid?>more than 20 retards replied to this postK E K
>>537869742interestingWhen people talk about working class, I don't think it is purely defined by the economic element (e.g. the person's relationship to their work/business/equity). I think there's a social element as well (e.g. their connections, opportunities). Hence the term 'socioeconomic class'So CEOs, who have more connections, a stronger reputation and more familiarity with the system, can navigate it more competently, allowing them to be more successful at launching businesses or finding new work.Though I concede that the CEO of a small local accountancy firm wouldn't really have those connections or benefits.(And civil servants who are supposedly of a high socioeconomic class and do have those connections, might not get paid that much.)
>>537880039>Balkanization is wishful thinking for pseudo anarchistsAllow me to explain my fellow Burger anonThere are only three possible outcomes:1--> White people kick out all the non-Whites (not gonna happen)2--> We all just live together miserable (it will get so bad that the Whites won't put up with it... we only put up with it so far because we had suburbs to retreat to and the country was still prosperous enough to kick the can down the road for a couple generations)3--> Balkanization (most likely outcome... because there really isn't any other option)
>>537880458It's almost hard to believe you're not a bot. The most likely outcome is most people don't concern themselves with things, they breed into something unrecognizable long after we're both dead, and the US financial zone/organization will continue in a similar looking fashion for a long, profitable time.
>>537867316They don't do that though.
>>537880180I have no issue with people owning more than one property once everyone does own one. It's just fundamentally unfair and unrighteous that some slimy kike or old cunt can own 6 houses while John and his wife and 4 children don't own a house. The children need access to a garden more than 88 year old Dyliss does.
>>537878682>failure tankie mad about the existence of landlords>landlords disappear>suddenly supply of units to rent and trash with your skateboards, failing weed growing ops, and grafitti fall through the floor>lack any assets or credit to get a mortgage or to buy a unit yourself outright>fall back on being a streetkid and bitching about the landlords which don't even exist anymorelol
>>537880458You remind me of John Hagee. I was reading a bit from his Prophecy NKJV this morning. Truly shocking how he still, 20 years later, is certain that Ezekiel 37 & 38 is describing an imminent Russia led pan-islamic alliance against Israel. You use similar rhetoric, and similarly avoid orienting your prediction to the temporal spans we lowly men are accustomed to. Those illustrations of yours really are something, though! I normally maintain that any book is better as a picture book. That red line image is really cropping up these days, too!
>>537880088Retarded. It sounds good on paper, but it would actually be devastating to an economy. That's the problem with leftism.
>>537867484bikes over kikes
>>537880894I don't care about house pricing nor the economy. Your American government can print endless dollars for the MIC and negroes but not for actual Americans? Sounds like bullshit to me.
>>537867484>>537880909Ya, no. He can fuck off back to africa.
>>537866899>freezes it at the top>never at the bottom
>>537880790Can you make a point not based on your personal feelings of fairness? There is no such thing as fair ownership, and to put it pedantically in terms you can't mince: utilization. Not all who must utilize things of value are capable of producing commensurate value. Property, it's materials and (skilled) labor, have value. You can't use your feelings to explain why everyone is equally deserving of value.
>>537867043this is the only good response, won't be reading any below it
>>537880939A government can't print endless money. Anyone who believes that has absolutely no understanding of economics. You really should at least take a class or two before deciding you have some brilliant economic idea no one has thought of before.
>>537866899Next he should outlaw house renting. That would actually be based. Either you own your home or you don't
>>537881019Bet
>>537881031That's nonsensical. There are no homes in NYC. Just apartment buildings.
>>537867043Landlords really do represent perhaps the most egregious flaw of capitalism, namely wealth creating more wealth. If you have enough money, all you need to do to live comfortably and increase your wealth is to keep buying houses and renting them. You literally produce nothing, and yet you only ever increase your share of the work output of the country. It really is a massive flaw, and everyone kvetching and claiming otherwise is simply a retarded cultist of capitalism not much different from the social justice warriors of the left.But the question is, how do you fix that problem?
>>537881104By outlawing home renting. It's as simple as that. As soon as the consistent money flow drops, homes will become affordable again because people want to get rid of their liabilities.
>>537881104>Another object permanence baby can't fathom something of value that can't be eaten and isn't a serviceWe fix it by you getting an education.
>>537881164Poor people need to live somewhere, and they can't live on the streets while trying to accrue enough wealth to buy a home.
>>537867043THIS ABOUT THE LAZYFART ECONOMICS IT WILL TOTALLY TRICKLE DOWN GOY (even though the most basics math will prove this wrong)!!!!STOP BEING ANTISEMITIC!!!!
>>537881104You absolutely retarded nigger faggot. Wealth itself is a benefit to society, for one. Second, they offer exposure and grow the housing market.
>>537881164But now the market has collapsed and no one is building them.
>>537881164Lmaoooo no way. How do you think that would work? First of all, my home is actually a shared domicile so can be rented out regardless of your laws. Second, if you really put the screws to preventing that, you've just oligopolized/borderline nationalized housing for anyone who cannot right this moment buy a house. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahaHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>>537881224Obviously you need to grandfather old rent deals. But otherwise home prices will drop and it will be much easier to own a home.
>>537881104There is a way but you don't get to sell your unit if you move out.
>>537881330They really are the lowest common denominator. Totally uneducated and overstimulated. They're probably low IQ immigrants.
>>537866899lower rents mean happy workers and angry jewsI'm all for it
>>537881385Yeah not to glaze you too hard but >>537881301 is spot on for that sort of silly suggestion. Maybe the finns are not here to chat with others.
>>537881255>Wealth itself is a benefit to society, for one.What? Explain as if I'm an absolute nigger faggot.>Second, they offer exposure and grow the housing market.I'm not sure it's something you should be artificially growing like that. The demand for housing is very naturally there already, and empty while empty rental apartments do increase the housing market, is that a good thing? It's kind of like if you could somehow make money by buying food and then simply letting it rot. Would that really be a good thing, even though it increases the food market?
>>537881449Could we make the worker happy with rents increasing 2% but his wages increasing 8%? Do you understand why you do NOT want the price level to fall? You don't have to trust me, but I'm telling you, for the US, it is better to make more than to need to spend less.
>>537881449It means higher rents for everyone but the the rent controlled units for the small amount of time the units are frozen.
>>537866899what happened to trickle down economics?
>>537881675Caught up on your mother's 3rd chin.
>>537866899KEK he expects some dumbfuck Muslim actual people who live like stoneage men and fuck goats to understand something as complex as economics.... hahahahahahahaha. BUT BUT BUT BUT UAE fuck you nigger UAE if is bunch of retarded monkeys with resources if they didn't had them they would be living in caves.
>>537881598>could
>>537878192>They cry about more housing then piss and moan when people try to buildThis is the one thing I dont understand about Leftists. Supply and demand are not even remotely difficult concepts to understand. They are like "OMG we have a housing crisis prices are too high", then you say "OK lets build more houses"."NOOOOOOOOOOOOO we cant do that !"Its completey fucking crazy. Places like Pasadena, CA have ordinances that every house automatically becomes a historical landmark once it becomes 100yrs old and cant be torn down and has to be rennovated to historical specifications made up by retards in the building code dept. Its totally fucking insane, Leftists are totally retarded to the point of psychosis.
Well I mean all landlords should be gassed so they are getting off easy
>>537866899>>537867109This is advanced economics OP:>Lower rents will not only mean less profit for Jews, but also mean more applicants per property. >More applicants and no ability to Jew renters to subsidies niggers means landlords have to choose quality tenets (from a wider pool).>Given less ability to select region by renters (high number of applications to find a rental makes this kind of discretion unpractical) there will be no ghettoisation, whites applying to rent in all neighborhoods. In a decade there will be no nigger areas and basically no niggers throughout the city.Whitopia coming to Jew York
>>537881765>>537881780Aren't you guys in purest housing hell on earth?
>>537881582>What? Explain as if I'm an absolute nigger faggot.No problem. I'll put it in a way a European should understand.Wealth is what funds all of your social programs. If the people with wealth leave, which they can do, you stop eating. Your grandma stops getting her medicine. Wealth is also needed to grow the economy. >I'm not sure it's something you should be artificially growing like that. It would be natural growth. You're the one talking about state intervention, meaning artificial stagnation. >and empty while empty rental apartments do increase the housing market, is that a good thing?I'm not sure what you're saying here.>It's kind of like if you could somehow make money by buying food and then simply letting it rot.You can't do that with property or food. The problem is that what you're suggesting is like giving everyone fruit then after it rots, complaining that there are no more food salesmen, since you can't make money selling fruit anymore.
>>537881746>Mfw I'm at [somewhere that'll sound good in court]
>>537881858I don't know what you mean, could you please rephrase?
>>537881598obviously not
>>537867316>pays thousands to replace your sewer lines every time your trans gf clogs the toilet with xis tamponsAnd where did they get the money?
>>537881858NZ I think ytboi>>537881942
>>537866899Why does the right always suck off corpos?
>>537881942I probably don't know what I am talking about concerning australia
>>537881983They didn't, which is why they're declaring bankruptcy and the bathroom in the unit above you is leaking water on your bed bug infested mattress.
>>537881858Yeah we have jeet and African warehouses, like 20 living in a studio apartment. Gov solution is to try and punish the landlords for not blocking illegal sub-leases. instead of the obvious blocking illegal sub-humans
>>537881958Why? My question was in good faith. I don't think either should be directly manipulated by the government, fwiw
>>537867305jungle people invaded long ago
>>537881878>Wealth is what funds all of your social programs. If the people with wealth leave, which they can do, you stop eating. Your grandma stops getting her medicine. Wealth is also needed to grow the economy.I see. So all there was to it was you being extremely naive and ignorant about what wealth is. A landlord's wealth is in the apartments he owns. He can't really pick them up and leave. Some other forms of wealth are a bit more liquid, but capital flight is a complete non sequitur in this context anway. Besides, capital controls do exist.>It would be natural growth.>I'm not sure what you're saying here.>You can't do that with property or food. People naturally need houses. You buying houses just to keep them empty is rather artificial. And if you don't keep them empty, you did not increase the size of the market. And an empty house is not very different to rotting food, hence the analogy.
>>537881760They're not stupid, it's all deliberate. Housing markets, homelessness, dumb hyperfocused ecological shit, massive public works boondoggles like HSR, it all serves one singular purpose. It's a goal with nebulous hard to define completion conditions. Every year they can shift the standards so it looks like they're making progress but not quite enough to reach the 10 year goal so they can beg for more funding which never makes it to the project, never creates observable positive improvements and is just somehow never enough. Of course all that money is getting contracted out to family member owned businesses of people on the city council/state legislature that appropriated the funds in the first place.Much like was the case with the Spaceshuttle program in the latter part of the 20th century, the point is the dispersal of funds. Any actual physical tangible outcomes were a bonus, but were not the motivating goal.
>>537868874those won't be the ones locked. it'll be the naive ones trying to get into the game by invested 20 years of labor into a single apartment that they can't afford to fix now so it'll go to shit while some Guatemalan squats in itthese will NOT be affected
>>537877819Why dont the socialists band together and purchase housing together, then give out free rooms?
>>537867043YOU'RE RIGHT! THOSE BUILDINGS JUST APPEAR NATURALLY AND REQUIRE NOTHING TO MAINTAIN THEM!!!
>>537882036>Why does the right always suck off corpos?This is probably the biggest delusion of Leftists. Their policies hurt REGULAR PEOPLE, they do not hurt "corpos" who can fly in from Connecticut and New Jersey, etc. They hurt the people that actually have to live day to day with their retarded fucking policies you mongoloid nigger.
>>537869232>What if they cant afford the upkeep on the buildingState takes it.>Since the government cant even fill in potholes in a timely and efficient mannerThey can, and they do sometimes when they want things to be nice. Like when Xi visited San Francisco, so the city cleaned up the streets and arrested all the criminals overnight. Then Xi left and the city released the criminals back on the streets and halted all the cleaning again. There's actually a "fix everything" button and you can just push it. No differently from what happened in El Salvador, China, Russia, Orania, 3rd Reich Germany, and many other examples. You're acting like the Richest country on Earth doesn't have the resources to provide housing to its citizens. It actually can, you're just living under hostile foreign occupation.>>537880083>You can't use laws to compel behavior>You can't use laws to punish bad behavior>The richest country on Earth can't provide housing and actually needs to have a permanent underclass of homeless junkiesGoogle all the countries that have low homelessness or high homeownership and look how they did it. Same thing I'm proposing. Deport everyone who doesn't belong, arrest criminals, and then mandate housing. It actually works and results in high quality of life and lifts the entire lowerclass into being effective members of society.
>>537881598Yes you could. But that will remain a could because shareholders of the world will not allow it.>>537882095If the government doesn't step in those with money and power in the free market fill the void. And that's how we've gotten to this point.
>>537882157>. A landlord's wealth is in the apartments he owns. He can't really pick them up and leave. Some other forms of wealth are a bit more liquid, but capital flight is a complete non sequitur in this context anway. Besides, capital controls do exist.You idiot nigger. Assets such as houses are still wealth, no different from money. In fact, they're better than money because they usually appreciate. They can be barrowed against and ARE taxed against. >You buying houses just to keep them empty is rather artificial. No one is doing that though. You would lose money, obviously.
>>537866899Hes a mentally ill kike
>>537882292the method you are talking about is not free rooms, the tenants run the place so the rent is only the mortgage and then huge drop just for maintnance. BUT you don't get to sell your share, however your income was not siphoned heavily if you did decide to move.
It's all fun and games for socialists until other peoples money runs out...
>>537882333Okay, what's your point/suggestion Mr. trip-trips? (I'm not agreeing, just waiting for you to make a claim)
>>537882041I just don't know what you mean by purest. Housing hell on earth, yes Australia is in that and the housing class is literally insane. The latest insanity is doomsaying regarding auction clearance rates being below 50%, which just means that houses are overpriced
>>537866899This time, I agree with the socialist. Real estate is overvalued. Prices need to get slashed.
>>537866899What's it frozen at 4000 a month lolololol did he even bring it down before this?
>>537882516This is why brown people are incompatible with civilization. Nigger, these policies make housing more, not less expensive. See here. >>537879129
>>537866899We already had housing figured out for centuries until it was twisted from a basic necessity into a luxury. It's only going to get worse at this rate and the lower you are on the wealth pyramid the less you'll continue to have.
>>537882516How is that an issue for you? Even Mexicans don't want to live in Mexico. Property values can't be more than a chancla and a chaqueta with some lime on the side for a modest 3bd/2ba, right?
>>537882307so, giving the regular man a break on their rent hurts the regular man... how? Oh, it doesn't? You're just throating corporations and telling the regular man to fuck himself if he can't give those corporations more money than the land is worth?
>>537882721>>537879129Ur whalecum, sweatie
>>537882641>We already had housing figured out for centuries So peasants renting from literal landlords like dukes and kings?>We already had housing figured out for centuries Ya. My luxurious house sucks. I wish I lived in a peasants shack with pigs and chicken shit.>the lower you are on the wealth pyramid the less you'll continue to have.Loser cope
>>537882516>Real estate is overvalued. Prices need to get slashedI am from the government and I know how to set prices better than the market !This post being from a central American might be the most ironic thing in this entire thread. INB4 "real price controls have never been tried before !"LMFAO
>>537882630>Brown people are incompatible with civilization because they think corporations fucking them in the ass is badAnd you think corpos fucking you in the ass is good? What are you, a faggot?
>>537880894>It sounds good on paper, but it would actually be devastating to an economy.That's what you all said about China's Three Red Lines, but now it's called the Chinese miracle. It's the same thing that's being done everywhere that solved homelessness and that has high quality of life.>>537881027>A government can't print endless money.Like 90% of all M0 was minted in the last 4 years. Governments issue currency as they see fit and to whom they see fit.>You really should at least take a class or two before deciding you have some brilliant economic idea no one has thought of before.He's correct about MMT. You are not. Whatever Happened to Penny Candy is an ELI5 of Adam Smith, but it does not prepare you for modern finance.>>537881598>Do you understand why you do NOT want the price level to fall?Get rid of your memeflag and explain why your predictions were wrong in China. They dropped the price of housing through the floor and the result was investment moving into actual economic activity like manufacturing instead of just rent-seeking bullshit.>>537882307>Their policies hurt REGULAR PEOPLE, they do not hurt "corpos"The leftist policy here being a tax on ultra-rich that funded programs for ultra-poor. The ultra-rich didn't leave, the income for the city programs increased, and the community was served better. Until you can explain why you're wrong about this, there's not much point in repeating your analysis that didn't come true.>They hurt the people that actually have to live day to day with their retarded fucking policies you mongoloid nigger.Everyone I know who lives under such policies always has good things to say about them. We've been doing it your way in the US for a long time and it's a humanitarian crisis. So I'm all for not continuing what's obviously not working.
>>537882345You made a claim that wealth is good on its own, but all you can do to justify that is to go on these weird tangents and extremely vague connections. Wealth is only good if it does something. If I own a mansion somewhere, it makes no difference to anyone else. It's not intrinsically good that I own it. >No one is doing that though.So how exactly do you increase the demand that inflates the housing market, then? If you do not change the demand for new houses one bit, you're doing nothing to the markets.
>>537882300workers build themworkers maintain themlandlords are parasites that steal from the resident and worker.unironically kill yourself
>>537882822Read this retard.>>537879129The fact you don't understand this makes you incompatible with civilization. You're so stupid that you're literally tearing it down and hurting yourself in the process. You're just too stupid to understand.
>>537882929Who paid the workers? Dumbfuck.
>>537882838This board has IDs, you're an even dumber nigger than I for dropping it ITT. I literally specify the US in my post, because I'm aware of international macroeconomics. I don't care about chinks, your question isn't relevant to our discussion.
>>537867484FUCKING JEW HATING SCUM
>>537882785>I am from the government and I know how to set prices better than the market !Markets are manipulated, flaggot. You're an actual fucking idiot if you think the invisible hand is anything other than a puppet controlled by a Jew. A government that represents us should rule us, not foreigners who happen to have money.
>>537882980>Who paid the workers? Dumbfuck.The tenants.
>>537882774Feudalism hasn't been a thing for centuries. Nice attempt at a melty unfortunately you have the mental acuity of a toddler.
>>537882863You have to pay tax on the mansion. It's the most highly taxed form of wealth. It's what feeds half of your country. If you use the state to intentionally devalue housing, you won't get that tax money to feed people with. Please just fucking TRY to understand.
>>537867043
>>537868516It's hilarious because I often see posts from people saying that they are rentslaves, but they still have to fix shit in their own apartment lol.
>>537882952"If you think housing should be affordable and corporations shouldn't be allowed to just fuck you in the ass with a 3 yard dildo wrapped in sandpaper using no lube, you're just bad for society!"Tell me you're a landleech without telling me you're a landleech.
>>537882838The Chinese miracle involved Opening their economy to private investment. The miracle was literally embracing capitalism. You're insane.
>>537882630Suddenly /pol/ believes in ''the experts''. Rent freezing a portion of apartments for two years =/ Units built specifically to forever be rent controlled. >>537882659Sure. For two beans you can get a mansion. >>537882785Look at all you faggots, arguing in favor of the ridiculous overpriced state of the real estate market. Next thread though, you'll be arguing against greedy boomer home owners that refuse to sell for a lower price.
>>537883057The tenants who don't exist paid people to build a building they don't yet live in?>>537883061Ironic
>>537883105It makes housing less affordable. I linked you to a Stanford study that explains in detail how rent control makes rent go up. >>537883155It makes rent go up. It always has in every city that has ever tried it.
yeah he even owns an iPhoneungrateful little bitch
>>537883065>It's what feeds half of your country.You're claiming property tax feeds half the country? It only is enough to pay for services like fire stations ans such, + public schools.
>>537882446My point is that we have built a society overleveraged around shareholders and those with economic power much to the detriment of those with power.And the only counterbalance to the powerful and wealthy is mass population movements to finally take some of the authority back.If you want concrete shit. First pass the housing bill (but reform it so it also limits the number of properties one person/company can own, and cap the total valuation of it to an algorithm based on regional and national property values). Then you need to get money out of poltics, and reform the system so that it's not so easily bought or prone to corruption in general. A good society doesn't need to treat everything like an investment. They don't do that with housing in Japan, and their housing is also far more affordable. Priced more by where it's at, and what people can afford rather than what companies can afford.If you're an independent landowner you would benefit long term from such a shift too.
>>537883305Property tax is an important revenue stream. If you destroy the housing market, you won't continue to get that money.
>>537883224>It makes rent go up. It always has in every city that has ever tried it.They you also control those rents that go up. If the owners don't want to abide, then they can keep them empty or sell them. Time to stop the real estate lunacy.
>>537883065You're again just making these extremely vague connections to taxation and food, but these are in no way related to your original claim that wealth is good on its own, especially when talking about the wealth of landlords. Sure, if we were talking about the gross output of the nation, and defined that as wealth, wealth would indeed be good because that's directly connected to the tax money and the value of that money.But I honestly think you're beyond help. You're so religious about your ideology. You spout bullshit and are apparently physically incapable of talking like a decent person, and I think I've reached my tolerance for that nonsense by now.
>>537883162>ironicHow? You're also oddly invested in this topic don't you have anything better to do in your "luxurious" house?
>>537883370Lolol. What a cope. How did Boomers have firefighters and police officers and much lower property taxes???
>>537883370Then you make do with something else. Current year real estate prices, are absolutely outrageous.
>>537881255homeowners in america, including landlords, have a strong incentive to restrict the housing market and have done exactly that with their votes
>>537883439>How did Boomers have firefighters and police officers and much lower property taxes?There were less brown socialist niggers asking for handouts and committing fraud, and more honest White Christians working hard and contributing value to the economy.Next question.
>>537883394You will destroy the housing market meaning no more property tax>>537883423I can't make it any more simple>Value of house goes down>You can extract less wealth from people based on their homes value>>537883428Because I'm basically teaching a class on basic economics at this point. >>537883439Because the fire fighters costed less.
>>537866899Every mandani thread is a paid 1pbtid.
>>537883394The irony is that a lot of landlords are new at this thing. They were Boomers or well-off meme job millennials that saw the articles during COVID "Sit on your ass all day and retire in Jamaica, buy rental properties/Airbnbs"These fucks have a mortgage on their rental property in many cases. So the rentslave has to pay THEIR MORTGAGE on top of the profit they are trying to extract.
>>537883473Jesus fucking Christ. You people really have no idea. People would starve to death. >>537883544I agree that the real enemy is regulation, if that's what you're saying.
>>537883306Dog, what is your point regarding price freezes or US apartments? That's plenty of words that sound like you once read a yahoo finance page, but you're not really talking about anything. Worldwide shareholders, good society related to investments, Japan glazing... Please continue reading, but discontinue posting for a while.
>>537867484You know who else rode bikes?Hitler.
Freezing rent is a good start, but we also need to raise taxes on income from rent. When they complain we can set maximum rent lower, effectively lowering tax revenue from rent and therefore lowering their taxes.
>>537883777Checked, but you'd collapse the whole city.
>>537883777Can you stfu and read the thread b4 posting further pls? You're just parroting what's already been rebuked by half the posts ITT
>>537883636But people with houses support regulation. That's just trying to scapegoat some inanimate subject while the individuals who actually drive policy continue to enforce it.You say housing needs to be high value to complement current tax schemes, but that's a clearly unsustainable course where future generations will be increasingly unable to afford homes. A house can't be an investment in a healthy society. It can't rise in value faster than inflation and wages. Speculation is the enemy of healthy economies.
>>537883558>>Value of house goes down>>You can extract less wealth from people based on their homes valueIndeed, if someone keeps buying food and letting it rot, the government gets more in value added taxes because food is now more expensive, and this is... good?
>>537883886The problem is that you want to blame and punish people, which will not fix the issue. The solution is building more houses. That is the only solution. >>537883902You don't understand.Your country feeds and medicates the poor using funds from property taxes. If it cannot collect the taxes, then it cannot provide that food and medicine.
>>537883886Love the energy >A house can't be an investment in a healthy society. It can't rise in value faster than inflation and wages. Speculation is the enemy of healthy economies.This but entirely the opposite.
>>537884031>Your country feeds and medicates the poor using funds from property taxes.I'm pretty sure we have quite a few taxes other than property taxes too. And if people spent less on houses, they'd surely spend more on something else. You clearly have zero reasonable arguments as to why wealthy landlords are something to be desired.
>>537884173Right. It has multiple taxes, but if it loses it's property tax income it will need to cut spending. That will undoubtedly include subsidy since yours is one of the most subsidized countries.
>>537884248It will lose nothing because landlords do not generate any wealth in the first place. Whatever taxes the state would lose in property taxes, it'd make up from the other sources. Good night.
>>537884173I think part of the separation between old and new world is that we new world people can envision changing a system that we are a part of. I am the landlord, like I was the renter. I consider it beneficial to have wealth generating wealth be a facet of my economy, because it implicitly suggests I and others can reap that benefit, which incentivizes participation. Euros don't get it, which is why you've regulated yourselves out of everything in the digital age. There is no European Alibaba, Amazon, IBM, AMD, Intel, or anything like it, because of your disincentivizing mentality and gross over regulation.
>>537884427NYC gets 44% of it's money from property taxes. If their housing market collapsed, so would the city. I looked it up, and only 3% of your state income comes from property taxes. I think our states are incomparable when it comes to housing markets and what they mean for the people.
>>537884031people decide whether houses are built, and they make choices based on the incentives and disincentives available to themthese speculating asset-holders are effectively holding the country hostage to protect their investments
>>537884031>Your country feeds and medicates the poor using funds from property taxes.That's a lie.
>>537884597This is just ignorant bullshit. Studies have showed that even with a local monopoly, large landlord corporations only contribute to a 2% greater housing inflation rate than is normal. On the other hand, government regulations can raise building costs over 120 thousand dollars. That's an insane increase. I'd encourage you to do some research. It's extremely easy these days.
>>537884722I didn't realize that Finlands housing market was pretty much non existent.
>>537884031Property taxes in USA, is 600 billion annually. You're claiming that such amount feeds and medicates the country?
>>537884565>If their housing market collapsed,It's a two year rent freeze. Not a market collapse. And rent freeze still means they're paying property tax.
>>537883636>People would starve to death.You keep saying it, but that doesn't make it true. Property tax is kept locally. Used to pay for public schools, police, fire stations, ...Services, like welfare and health care, are paid with federal tax dollars.
>>537883886>. A house can't be an investment in a healthy society.Fully agree. Housing shouldn't be planned to be an investment.
>>537884889>>537884960>>537885058You're intentionally obfuscatting things and being disingenuous. I'm done for the night. I don't want my wonderful country turning into a shithole like Mexico or Finland. Go ahead and be communist over the border.
>>537880606>it's almost hard to believe you're not a botI'm not botlike tho
>>537880875>You remind me of John HageeWhy John Hagee? I have never heard of him
>>537880875>You remind me of John HageeThis guy?https://www.jhm.org/
>>537866899The problem with renting is it's a housing solution that cannot not be parasitic. You need to squeeze the already impoverished out of as much of their money as possible to maintain the constant dilapidation from wear and tear from use and the environment.
>>537866899>politician actually doing what they promisedI would vote for him in any election on that basis alone
