The Egyptian ministry of finance recently announced a complete overhaul of the old in-kind welfare system we've had since the 70s, planning to move to a money-based system where the government automatically deposits a lump sum (50-350L.E per citizen; it's still in the talks) into special "welfare cards" with the money only spendable at government-sponsored vendors.A 70g loaf of bread will stay at 0.20L.E, while cooking oil, (30L.E/bottle) sugar (15L.E/kg) and all other goods (soap, detergent, pasta, flour, etc) won't have fixed prices and will instead have subsidized pricing that moves with market rates.Supporters of the policy (Government, IMF, etc) say it'll reduce corruption by making it easier to track government spending and eliminating the old problem of welfare outlets misreporting demand and pocketing products (oil, soap, detergents) to resell on the market for profit. It's hoped it'll cut inefficient spending and leave welfare recipients (~67M people) with the same former QoLDetractors of the policy (their opinion doesn't matter; we're a dictatorship) say the decision to link product prices to market prices will shred the welfare's value for ordinary Egyptians once a new wave of hyperinflation inevitably hits, and that potentially pushing millions of lower-class/lower-middle-class citizens from simple poverty to outright starvation will lead to a repeat of the 1977 bread revolts and a potentially bigger conflagration than the Arab Spring.What do you think, /int/?
>>537869869>Egypt discovers food documents after PDSGreat overhaul>into special "welfare cards" with the money only spendable at government-sponsored vendors. Which ministers and bureaucrat cartel owns these shops?
>>537869870>Which ministers and bureaucrat cartel owns these shopsEntirely owned by the military (government). As for exact names they don't disclose these kinds of things to goycattle (non-military) like me and nobody knows exactly how deep this goes other than the government (military). Only the military audits the military btw.
>>537869871Good luck Luxornon, maybe someday your nation will truly be free, although you'll have to tolerate pride parades too
>>537869869on paper it's an improvement because you eliminate some of the problems that come from subsidizing products for everyonein algeria a lot of products are subsidized which causes people to buy them and smuggle them across the border to neighboring countries to sell for a profit, hell large sectors of the tunisian economy only survive on algerian smuggled goodsthe problem is that this could lead to other problems, for example how do you determine who deserves the help? especially in an informal cash based economy it's very hard to measure who deserves it and who doesn't, and it could lead to new types of corruptionI think we could use something like this in algeria, it's been talked about, maybe egypt will serve as a testing ground and we can know more about the pros and cons from watching you
>>537869873>how do you determine who deserves the help?Reported income and listed profession on their I.D card usually. Non-Egyptians (we have 10.5M refugees) don't apply because they get NGO help and whatever scraps the government and the UN can give them. My family doesn't qualify but my dad used to get welfare stuff somehow (probably bribed someone) and resold it for money when i was a kid because he's worse than a Yahudi. Probably still does
>>537869874>My family doesn't qualify but my dad used to get welfare stuff somehow (probably bribed someone) and resold it for money when i was a kid because he's worse than a Yahudi. Probably still doesTbh Masris are humanity's biggest whores for money, they are just too stupid to make money like Shekel loving Moshe
>We need to feed more Egypsies so they have more kids and the overpopulation issues get worse!!!Why are they like this?
The world just keeps getting closer to UBI
>>537869869 Life on Misr = tutorial mode
>>537869869>welfare recipients (~67M people)bruh isn't that more than half the country?
>>537869879Ever heard about Falahen culture?
>>537869869I think masri bvlls should keep impregnating their sow's and pump out as many babies as possible to hold the world hostage with the threat of a refugee crisis so they're forced to keep giving you free money to feed your children.
>>537869869My country is hard core capitalist,people who don't have money just die or become drug dealers.Although they did implement something similar recently when they give you a 300-500 MAD (equivalent to 50 euros ) but in order to qualify you need to basically starve and have nothing so poor people would just pretend to be poorer then they really are irl.The welfare thing doesn't really work well with browns,we don't have any worth ethics or national pride,we're a culture of beggars.
>>537869879Yes. The latest figure i could find was a figure by The World Bank that 33.5% of Egyptians were below the national poverty line in 2021 and that "poverty line" is for absolutely grim conditions not just difficulty affording life essentials like bread and cooking oil. Things have gotten FAR worse since 2021.>>537869882>50EURNot that bad. Is it just a flat cash handout or is it coupons for sponsored stores or is it in goods? The way you phrase it makes it sound like you just found a €50 bill on the street
>>537869869This is going to lead to greater corruption because you've made stealing the value easier. It's more work to steal soap, then find a place to fence it, than it is to fuck with a spreadsheet.
Janny you are such a nigger it's insane. I get a 3-day ban and my thread thrown to /pol/ for discussing my own fucking country's welfare system while a tranny's literal cock has been on the catalog for several hours with dozens of reports and you niggers haven't done shit. A tranny 42% turdroach's tales of how xhe sucks old men's cocks off in parking lots is more relevant to """""""""""international discussion""""""""""""""" than my own country's affairs.Fuck this shithole and fuck me for taking this niggerhell seriously and effortposting.
>>537870139Maybe idk. One would think all the expenses are followed by a central authority collecting the data somewhere because all the cards are digital but idk. Fuck what we want though, the IMF wants us to cut state control, subsidies, and price controls and reduce government competition against the private sector so that's what's gonna happen. Well not really the army owns 40% of the economy and they'll never let go but cutting subsidies for poorfags is good enough for the IMF to hand us another loan for Sisi to build more pointless skyscrapers in the desert
>>537870311>Checked /Int/ , /his/What the fucking shit is this. I also hate /news/ layout btw. We also get better /x/ threads but far to much random bot spam from god knows where at this point that ruins most of those threads with derailing discussion on flat earth shit when the topic of discussion is shit like Antarctica.
>be poor, can't afford food>have 12 kids>be even poorer, can't afford to feed all the kidsIt is absolutely mind boggling how stupid poor people are.
>>537872580The central authority is where the theft will come from.
>>537869869Bump
>>537869869>A 70g loaf of breadI might make half a sandwich from that, maybe
>>537869869You guys are gonna get fucked by inflation. Better start buying gold or at least some hand tools.
>>537869869The Egyptian government doesn't like money.They could increase tourism x10 just by letting white man actually excavate Giza properly.
